Was I Wrong About Overland Trailers?
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- čas přidán 25. 11. 2023
- Are overland trailers really an asset? In this video I share with you how I began using an off-road trailer and give you a tour of the new Patriot Campers X3 Gen 2 trailer. This video is sponsored by Patriot Campers.
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I hope you guys enjoyed this walk around. One correction, the Dry Trailer Weight is 2,557 lbs. Lots adventures to come with this trailer, but here is one in Death Valley with a trailer I'll never forget: czcams.com/video/mizNrCby_p4/video.html
Yes this trailer is nice one note you keep saying down below. Is down or below?
To bad. Slightly over weight for a 2 door.
With all your gear about 800 more lbs?
Master Chief I was about to correct you. We have more attention to detail than that in the Mess.
@TrailRecon
Thanks for the weight correction. Great looking trailer.
Those campers are dope no doubt about it but i feel like for the average overlander/offroader like me on a normal budget that is just insane. Starting at 30k is insane.. the cost of a car, unless you're associated with the industry like you most people wont be able to afford that or just wont want to. I did a bed rack and tent for a fraction of the cost for arguably the same result. I feel like the industry has slowly been pulling away from the average person and gone for rich folks rather than us but hey. Good video regardless brad. big fan.
Edit: STARTING at 30k is insane
Totally agree. But I bet this trailer is well north of 50. I’m into a Gladiator 75k and it’s just lifted on 37s with a nice rack and Alu-Cab tent. I’m guessing I’m 25k-35k away from these CZcams rigs. My son and I enjoy the heck out of it, but I bet a used Tacoma and a flip out tent would create the same memories.
This one is $66,000.
So the industry should cater to their least profitable customers? You ever run a business? Lol
@@jobean5073 least profitable? You mean 98% of the market? Lmao have YOU ever ran a business 🤣
You’re so right. That’s why I picked the trailer I did. It goes as deep off road as I need, barn doors means it doubles as gear hauler, and was about 12k when I got mine. A Patriot is still on my Lottery list, but it’s hard to justify a trailer that cost the same as the tow vehicle.
Great video and a cool trailer no doubt, but to answer your original question of “is it worth it?”, I’d have to say a resounding no. Only people buying these are people that don’t need to ask that question.
So you are saying these trailers are like Rolls-Royces. If you have to enquire about the price ... you are saying that you can't afford it.
Even the very wealthy can be stingy
Are you saying you don't overland to the extend that much of the equipment required to do proper overlanding you don't carry?
Admittedly one can purchase a second Jeep and split the necessary equipment to overland between them for the cost of this one trailer.
But...is THAT worth it? Afterall, the trailer burns no fuel at the rate a second vehicle would.
@@samjohnson9894 People cross the world on two wheels....You dont need a trailer to overland.
@@HandyTot A lot of people wouldn't overland without certain comforts to suit their individual wants/needs. Grey Nomads choose Caravans to suit their lifestyle. Even bigger than these trailers.
60k dollar trailer hitched to your 90k dollar Jeep. Really pulling off the "everyman" vibe really well 😂
First, thanks Brad for doing these videos. I thoroughly enjoy them! Now, for all the negative Nellie's out there, I agree, I'd probably never pay the money for something like this unless I was going to be doing A LOT OF CAMPING OFF THE GRID and was retired. So what's the solution? RENT ONE! There are plenty of places/individuals from which you can rent these, especially if you only get on a few trips a year. Give the guy a break and be thankful someone is willing to do an in depth review of these things so people know what they are paying for! 😊
67k is a little rich for my blood. It’s a tent on wheels.
No doubt they are one of the best Camper trailers you can have. Unfortunately, here in Australia where they are built the average person can't afford the $87,000 that they cost.
Love your videos, I've watched you and Patriot campers from the start. Keep up the great work.
That's funny, a few of your Aussie buddies keep telling folks, these trailers are the norm in your country... They are EVERYWHERE, apparently you all can afford them like buying a new pair of shoes. Clearly lies are being told, but it's good to see at least one Aussie being truthful, thanks!
@@BrooklynNY1979 camper trailers are very common, Patriots not as much due to the price. $87,000 is the starting price as well. They quickly go over $100k. Which puts them well into offered caravan territory.
Awesome trailer! Good walk through video. I was hesitant about offroading with a trailer too but since ive started doing it I realized i should have done it a long time ago! Great video!!!
So glad that you both are enjoying the new trailer. The folks at Patriot in Vegas are awesome guys and like to tease me about my Opus. A lot of folks just don't understand why to get an offroad trailer. For me, its being able to go further away from civilization for longer periods of time and not have to suffer. Being able to run a fridge all week long, wash dishes with hot water, take a shower, standing up while changing clothes, setting up a basecamp and explore without having to breakdown camp, invaluable! Have a great time out there
How do you like the Opus? I have seen them and seem very nice but a bit heavy to tow with a Wrangler UL. What has been your experience with it?
Love my Opus! It’s perfect for us setting up base camp and go explore. There are many owners that pull with Wranglers. I think the 24 Wranglers would be a better option due to the increase in towing capacity.
@@stephenwhelan901 thanks. Which Opus do you have? I borrowed an Opus 4 and it was a nice setup.
I have the OP2. We chose the OP2 because its just me and my wife and didn't need an extra bed. The OP2 gives you a shower enclosure and more pantry storage.@@Doodledogs
@@stephenwhelan901 thanks!
Congratulations super sweet those upgrades are going to make setting camp up lil easier 👍 as always be safe ❤
Congratulations on your success and ability to enjoy the life you want. I think that's awesome! It's even better when you consider the fact that you served our Country. I volunteer helping our Veterans adjust to getting back to the life they left behind before serving through music therapy. It's not always easy for them. Seeing videos like yours gives me hope. Thank you.
I looked really hard at a variety of trailers, including the Patriot, for at least a year before I pulled the trigger on the Offgrid Trailers Expedition 2.0. The main reason came down to a comment someone made about trailers like the Patriot that I really couldn't defend: You're spending all that money to STILL sleep in a tent. As long as you're ok with that, these are a great option!
"Tent" Yes, but no. What you give up to sleep inside the trailer is just not worth it to some people, including me. I don't see what the problem is with the "tent" on the Patriots since it's not just a hack job tent tossed on top. It's well integrated and apparently now, effective heat in the cold weather. What more do you really benefit from sleeping inside a box? You lose out on storage (unless you're willing to put dirty gear on your bed), you lose out on having a stand up changing area, you lose out on a place to relax if the weather turns bad (unless you only want to lay/sit in your bed). They're not far off in price (excluding cheapo trailers) and for the slight premium of the Patriot, it seems it is much more thought out, well designed, and aesthetically pleasing than most any other trailer out there. Again though, it depends on the person and what you're willing to sacrifice and/or your needs and desires.
@@Mr-Bogs wheres the head?
@@bryanpinto4051 All around you
It is a lot more than a tent. Great kitchen, amazing fridge that kept everything super cold, heater works great, instant hot water at the sink, awning can withstand pretty high winds. Easy open and close, button up and head back onto the trail. Not for everyone but I was totally over setting up a tent each night and sweeping out dirt or sand and being cold. We are retired and have done a ton of wheeling on difficult trails leasing groups and now want to explore BDR trails in America and stop where we want and quickly set up camp and enjoy. It is top of the line in quality and cost but for us very much worth it for what we plan to do. We have seen other trailers when on the trail with other people and the Gen2 X3 beats the ones we have seen.
Brad, Congratulations on the new trailer!! Trailer looks amazing. Can't wait to see all the new content and adventures to come. Great video.
I think it’s fair to say that you’re an incredibly generous person who’s also very well informed about the world of overlanding. I've learned so much by watching your videos about the do and don’t of overlanding. Thanks for the always good vibes and shared coolness, it's very much appreciated.
A lot of thought has gone into that design; very well integrated. Being able to access some of the same storage compartments from inside the tent is pretty cool.
Brad, as always a very informative video! I really appreciate that you are upfront that this is a sponsored video.
To the trailer itself: It looks extremely well built and outfitted, to a point where some features might be more than what many of us need. This is naturally reflected in the price, all those features cost money to produce. My point is here that you certainly do not need to spend big bucks to go off-road camping. Even a camping trailer can be as simple as a small teardrop trailer( home) built on an off the shelf 4x8 trailer frame. Just figure out what your real needs are, then add your desires.
Overall, I feel that Patriot has thought of everything in this design. Just for example, the parking brake, solar panel input jack and a heating system. Nice!
That trailer looks and acts amazing! Everything is well designed and thoughtfully planned. I've been looking at class b vans but after seeing this video I will reconsider!
Hope you have many great adventures with your new trailer
From my past experience backpacking and camping, roughing it a little is part of the experience. I just bought a Gladiator and might get a bed tent or just sleep in a ground tent. No need to bring the kitchen sink unless you have $$$. Plus a trailer gets in the way off road IMO, but that's just me-keep it simple.
Looks like a stellar setup for your adventures. Look forward to seeing it some scenic locations. 🍁🤙
Congrats on the new trailer!
I was unbelievably fortunate and found one of those weber grills at a local goodwill for 10 dollars in like new condition one of the best additions I've made to my camping setup
You've earned it! Congrats.
As a Gen 1 X3 owner, it is the tent poles on the outside of the tent that I like. 👍
Crazy these trailers are as much as a vehicle.
Happy for Brad and Regina that CZcams and TrailRecon is doing well enough to afford a $66,000
@@ej9147 He probably put the trailer as tax write-off since it is for his "business"
And cost as much. But it looks nice
@@Baebon6259 certainly is and should be.
$89k fully loaded as this one is. $66k is a bare-bones trailer.
Haven't watched your videos for a while because, honestly, they're so good they distract the hell out of me!
Good to see this review and great video sir. You have me thinking about adding a trailer to my silverado overland setup now! 🍻
Congrats Brad, that's awesome !!
Wow amazing trailer. Well built.
Trailer is great overall. I would spec the trailer to use the same size tire as what ever you are running on your Jeep. Many of the Aussie trailers also carry the spares on the trailer.
great idea
I think the spare on the X3 is under the trailer. Brad didn't mention it but I'm fairly certain it was called out on one of the Patriot videos.
@@russwhitney3459 my son said he saw one under the trailer. It still would be great to have them all the same size.
We have 37's on our Jeep and you could not run that size on the trailer, they would rub in the wheel wells and not really necessary. We are taking ours on Hole in the Rock from Halls Crossing next month and pretty confident it will do just fine on the obstacles we have to go over on our way to Coil Camp.
Nice trailer! I’m not a huge fan of RTT due to the climbs up and downs through the night for me and my wife and our dog, but this design is pretty darn cool. Also, being able to access some of the storage from inside and outside is ingenious. Thanks for the walk through.
Look at the Imagine Trailvans. Much more affordable and it has an easy entry for us older adventures.
How exciting ! What a rig man!
Can't wait to get out on the trails with it!
Cool thanks very useful used of space suit my camping trip cheers for the reviews
Great video, we love watching your content in our office! Thank you for bringing more attention to the overland camper community! ❤
Love the kitchen MOLLE. My first thought was mag pouches would be a great way to store a bunch of spices and bottles maybe? Found the perfect way to put all of that old ACU MOLLE I got out with to use...
Great walk around.
What a well thought out trailer.
Awesome video Brad! 😀
Thank you!
Quality and design are amazing
Congrats on the new trailer Brad! It looks awesome and I’m sure it works perfectly as a base camp setup offgrid. Safe travels! -Ryan from Houston, TX
Love the design
The Patriot camper line is as great as Justin’s personality. Loved the Australian trip .
Looks like a nice trailer. These seem like they would be nice if you want to separate your camping equipment from your overlander which for many people is their daily driver.
I'd be tempted to roll my own though. Use a surplus Humvee trailer or Harbor Freight trailer as the base, build it out how I need, and put a rooftop tent on the top.
I'm building my own! Super excited!!
I'm going to start one this spring.
@@timbaker4423 very cool. I was a cabinet maker for several years and do a ton of maker stuff so I'm excited to get this project done. It's including a ton of skills that I've worked on for years. Excited to see it come together finally
I still can’t get myself to be a trailer guy…but every time I use one, I get a little closer. This new one looks great, enjoy!
Fantastic video once again 🙂
I first came across your channel a few years ago, and your influence inspired me to purchase a Wrangler. It led to some amazing family trips 🙂
Now, the big question: can I resist this trailer? LOL. Thanks for the inspiration.
I really liked this one! One of the things I liked the most were the steps to enter/exit. I’ve been considering a RTT for my Gladiator but not too keen on the idea of climbing up and down a latter in the middle of the night when I need to pee.
Thanks for another great video! My Gladiator is SLOWLY being built but I’m getting there. Hopefully see ya out in our beautiful backyard pretty soon now that it’s desert season 😎
Just get a 3 inch mattress and pee in bed. You can dry it outside when you get home.
@@robertyoung8289 GREAT IDEA!!! 🤣
That's a really cool trailer, maybe one day I'll look at one. I found myself getting distracted by the mountains in the background. Forgot how much I missed spending time up there.
It would be nice for a special edition " TrailRecon " with your specifics 👌🏻
Another great video. We love your content! If the battery dies, will you be able to manually open push-button doors or actuate tent?
I love the new trailer but the biggest gripe is lack of wet bath or something like that inside.
That was the main reason why i didn't go with "offroad" trailer but small teardrop.
I'd love to see next gen with 'bathroom' space to avoid going outside during cold nights.
Very well narrated, Nice trailer. Cheers
Thank you!
Holy bat trailers! That is a serious overlanding devil dog. The one thing I would want for it, would be some sort of “key required to roll” mechanism so could base camp it to drive somewhere else’s for a day hike, or even a town run for supplies and a cold malt.
I smile a little bit when I see these trailers with CA Permanent Trailer plates.
When I registered my UEV 440 I made sure to only show them the outside kitchen and emphasized its a base camp trailer so they didn't try and label it as a camper.
$55 every 5 years vs $500 a year!
I like some the features of over-landing trailers but no shower and a fixed toilet.especially on early spring and late fall camping it’s nice to have an indoor bathroom.
Love and want one just to add to our collection of camping options but in the end its a tent and we got away from roof top tents and tent trailers because of the annoying part of dealing with a tent in the rain and having to dry it out once you get home..
With the heater it should be easier to dry out.
Awesome trailer !!
And as always awesome video 👌🏿
Hope to be able to afford one of these some day 😅
Pretty slick unit, but I prefer camping to be camping and just pack the basics. Thanks for sharing.
Off road trailers offer a nice solution to folks who like work explore from a base camp. They're easy to unhitch and allow the tow vehicle to get away and do some wheeling. But for those of us who enjoy four season camping and exploring in bear country, we must have a hard sided vehicle. Bottom line...whatever works best for you and fits in your budget!!
Back in 2010 we were a Little Guy trailer dealer. They were priced from $6,000 to $12,000. They had a rugged version for off road but I don’t think anyone ever saw this market evolving into the overlanding space. The problem we had in selling them was no NADA price for a bank to offer financing. I would suppose that has been fixed by now with the cost going so high. Very nice rig. They really made it handy. 👍🏽
Dream trailer for sure ! That being said like other comments The price makes it almost unattainable for most. It would be awesome if you tried out a more attainable trailer in a video .that being said good job as always enjoy watching all your videos.
Awesome video Brad! It’s been really interesting to see how you use these trailers on a regular basis
I realize your channel isn’t necessarily geared toward this but at some point it would be interesting to see you review one of the other trailers on the market like the Escapod
That is super nice!
Wow!! That's nice!!
Very Nice! Thanks Brad and Regina!!! 👍🫡 🇺🇸
Awesome review Brad. Happy Trails P.S. I wonder if the X3 Gen 2 camper could be bolted to a truck frame(no trailer)❔
I built a stand in 6 foot hight custom trailer. It has a Murphy bed, diesel heater, wood stove, shore power, tv, pc, PlayStation, kitchen bathroom and shower. It works best for me as it can be used for every situation I end up in. I designed it to go off-road, it’s got r20 insulation for winter, it’s white for staying cool in summer. It’s fully self sufficient on solar and wood. The best part was the price, because I built it myself it cost me less than 20k. I’m diesel swapping my hummer right now as the tow rig since I already have lots of work done on it for off and on road living. I’ll be 50k spent when I’m done but I will probably keep upgrading it.
Nice trailer.
However I think I'd like a complete reversed layout with the kitchen on the passenger side.
A little adjustment in the CAD program and they could produce those easy enough.
Here in the states, it would come in handy if you were to pull off to the side of the road for a quick lunch.
That way you wouldn't be near traffic.
That's a great point! I guess they're designed for Australia for that reason alone but you're right, they could have a left hand drive version.
Trailer overlanding is awesome. Very different animal than serious off-roading but perfect for the purpose. We have an Aussie MDC forward fold camper trailer and my wife LOVES it (I'm retired US Navy CPO in the UK married to my Leicester lass;-). We are taking our classic Defender 110 and trailer to southern Africa in 2025 (or so) to spend an entire year exploring South Africa, Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Malawi, Lesotho and then ship back to the UK. An overland trailer allows you the freedom to camp, then drop the trailer then go on game drives and explore without having to pack up every morning. And Herselfs favorite feature is the pull out fridge and kitchen. Her mantra is "No car boot sale (aka, garage sale) just to make a sandwich." She was tired of having to offload the whole back of the truck just for a meal and then have to load it all back up! Am I going to take it on the Rubicon? Absolutely not. That isn't the point of overlanding (IMHO!) as I would never seriously risk my home just for a the thrill of a rock challenge. I think most of us need that sticker on the dash that says "Remember, stupid, you have to drive this home!" Cheers from over here ;-)
Cant wait to get mine in Jan!!!!
you're going to love it!
@@TrailRecon I am sure. I have been watching a lot of your video about your gen 1 and 2
Awesome video.
Everybody drink Everytime he says SUPER 🤣😂😅
Unless they come out with a flying trailer, I don't think it could be more perfect! Can't believe how many things they've thought of. Forget a tiny-home, get a Patriot Trailer!
Awesome video, Brad! It’s fun to watch how these trailers have evolved over the years! True they are expensive, but I’ve had some recent luck, looking at some of their used models. My next investment! Hope to see you on the trail sometime soon, buddy! Jim from Temecula.
Thanks Jim, hope to see you out there!
That is a wonderful-looking trailer. It has more tech than my car does. Lol.
At some point I would love to get a trailer. I am not ready yet, but when I am, that is may be one to consider.
I like the new tech on this trailer. You wouldn't happen to be showing off your rig and trailer at Rigs and Brew coming up this Sunday?
so what changed you mind? The fact it was free?
Nice for those heavy in overlanding with deep pockets, Not for me but great set up for those that can.
Nice trailer,! Did you do anything to your Jeep to address the tongue weight? The trailer has 395 lbs tongue weight but the Jeep Wrangler is rated for a maximum of 350 lbs of tongue weight?
have always thoroughly enjoyed your very informative vids. great information and great videography. BUT I have a question on this one that I thought you would address but didn't. My bad. Here's the question: for extended overland travels do you prefer pulling a trailer like the one here with the tent OR a pop up truck camper like you've had in the past? I'm wondering if you find it less burdensome with the pop up truck camper (all on the same chasis) vs draggin a trailer?
I'm assuming the awning goes up higher somehow?
Can't wait to see it in action.
Every video about the Patriot Campers tout the heater, but are there any options for cooling?
That’s awesome sometimes you don’t know you need something until you get the chance to use it lol
I like your posts, but I have this feeling that you're only showing how expensive you can make overlanding ...
For me, going in nature is all about simplicity and going back to basics. But hey, that's just my idea 😉
Love your videos! I have a question… which lift do you recommend for a bronco badlands that will be towing a lite adventure trailer? Im currently running factory 33s, but am wanting to do a 3” lift to fit 35s and add ground clearance for moderate off roading once we unlatch at basecamp. Thank you.
Very good video 👍
Thank you 👍
Is it possible to install this on a flat bed truck? This would be awesome if it was. I like to tow a trailer and rzr but this on the bed of a truck would be great
They are an ultra cool camper trailer. The X3 in particular. Yes they are expensive but that's because they are of the highest quality.
Nice review Brad.
Now: if we held your feet to the fire and didn’t allow you to wiggle sideways with a response like, each has their pros and cons I would ask you this.
If you could only have One Setup, which would you choose?
Most of us have to make a choice. Most of us camp in all seasons with bugs and varmints that try to get in.
Would you choose a vintage vehicle with tent, a fully outfitted van with all the off road mods you could add, a Jeep or SUV any model towing a trailer, a larger truck with camper or a larger Earth Roamer, Rossmonster or Unimog style adventure vehicle?
I want to do one that opens like that for a bike that just has a foam mattress maybe the size of a full. The wheels will support one end and a a pair on bars with supports will support the other. Those legs when folded would act like a luggage rack so you could put a cooler, a camping stove and a backpack of food and clothing on top and bungie it down. You just lift the end and crawl in an close it. You could have a few zippered windows if you want too. With it being aluminum and using bicycle wheels it should be pretty light. Then maybe you could have an E-Bike to help you pedaling and something like a Jackery 1000w solar charger and 200w of folding solar panels (about $1000). Most E-bikes (in the sub $1000 range) have a 40 mile range, but towing the trailer likely half that. It would take about 3 hours to charge off the solar panels so you could go maybe 40-60 miles or so a day.
Although I’ve always loved Patriot trailers. After many years of watching videos, I realize I don’t wanna deal with the set-ups and breaking down.
I’m not in the market for an off road trailer yet. Hopefully in 5yr, I will be and am more than willing to pull the trigger on one, even up to $100k.
A lot of ppl don’t realize or see the level or work, craftsmanship and material that goes into one of these beauty/beast for the cost. Anyways, to each there own.
Thank you for such a great review on this beauty!!!
why not just buy a 40' and have a big helicoper to set in place.
@@395joe8 🤣 BRS Pursuit! 😁
Congrats you guys, love the video love the trailer. I’ve been eyeing one of them up for a couple of years now. Even traveled to Oklahoma to look at one in person. A little pricey for the average joe. How does someone like myself find a used one for sale? A little more affordable.
The latches are nifty, do they have some sort of override in the case of power loss. How would you get a door open if one failed?
I see Patriot are launching the X5 this week. Have you tried it out yet?
Amazing so cool
We think so!
$60K starting for these Gen 2 Patriots is definitely jarring. But, they seem to be doing very, very well. There are a lot more rich people out there than most imagine.
Brad, I caught the 257 lbs dry, and thought you misspoke. Nice rig.
This is a great walk around and preview; love all the features and the look. Is it worth the money? Yes! And, just like diamonds, there is a second question, is it affordable?
Most don't have the money for this kind of Trailor.
Looking into the idea of one of these trailers. I want to travel and explore. But my question is, how do they handle on a USA highway at 75-85mph speeds being pulled. Thx
If for some reason the power fails while deploying/stowing the tent, is there a manual override?