The WII U definitely had 3rd party support problems. I remember reading that several developers went off the record at the time saying it was because Nintendo mandated using their handheld screen as part of their game design. It was apparently very awkward to develop for.
Yeah , I remember reading the same excuses. But TBH, ngl, that was kinda of a lazy excuse tgey could've easily just always defaulted to using it for the HUD on any game . That's mainly what most did & it was useful but at least effort needed . The system wasn't really hard to develop, for they just made including pad more difficult than needed
Yeah the Wii U not having the best 3rd party support is primarily the fault of Lazy developers, the DS was more than well established at this point and developers knew darn well how they could develop for the Wii U because a lot of them developed for the DS which is the same thing except the screens are directly connected, if developers would’ve just thought of it like developing for a more powerful DS or 3DS everything would’ve been fine and I do believe that’s why the Wii U got a metric ton of support just before the end, developers either stopped being Lazy or finally got the lightbulb moment realizing how easy it could’ve been the whole time.
I'm not a Nintendo CZcamsr, but I personally feel like the backwards compatibility would be through the Nintendo account and you would just re-download your previous purchases.
Something tells me the cartridge isn’t going away for this system. The 3DS was able to pull this off by having the cartridge slot support both 3DS and DS games. Who’s to say the Seitch 2’s cartridge slot could handle itself the same way?
Honestly I would love a system just like the Switch but with the dual screens like a 3DS and foldable so you can dock it. Have bigger and longer joycons slide on the side as before and just have it more powerful to run bigger games. I would love that.
SNES was way better than the NES in many ways. I got the Original NES in 1985 when it came out, I was 6yo. I picked up the SNES when it came out and I was a teen. SNES was a giant leap. Compare Original Gameboy to Gameboy color and you have very little change besides a smaller handheld and color graphics. Still not back-lit and not much different than the 1st gen.
@@tommyagain38 in what ways other than better specs, a bit increase and new buttons? Also why comment this to me when I’m the one pointing out the improvements to someone else?
@tommyagain38 true, but the point being made was that there were unique innovations between consoles. NES to SNES was more power and more buttons, a major improvement, but it built on what was already there. N64 introduced 4 player mode, GameCube introduced the mini-disc format, Wii was motion controls, Wii U was gamepad, and Switch is a hybrid console/handheld system.
After a wild day in the gaming world, Nintendo of all companies appears to be the only game company capable of appearing stable at the moment. I think this confirms that the next system is a refresh, but probably not in the way that the PS4 was a refresh of the PS3. I think there will be a lot of future-proofing features built in--upscaling, AI, etc., but also ways in which the system may be able to work with other systems, apps, services, including the current switch. They said a while back that the next system is part of the "switch" family. They said they also want to only produce one games for one system at a time. So, I think a lot of the secrecy around the system is really more around making sure they can deliver on how they can have two systems in circulation, while only producing for one (at least for awhile).
I think they're going the same route as the nintendo 3ds and new 3ds. The oled model felt like an xl version that didn't change much, and we have the 2ds like the switch lite
It's been a long time since the switch came out and console lifespan. it's gotta be at least PS4 pro by now. The jump from 3DSXl to new 3DS was minimal at best.
This is definitely the right move, but we need more than double the power and 4k upscaling in docked mode at a minimum. It's been more than enough time and we need more from Nintendo this time around.
The switch is literally perfect, all they gotta do is bring out the same thing, with a better resolution, and more power. They even have some room to increase the price based on alternative consoles - just really need to get that updated performance in there. 1080p resolution would also be so sick
I’m ok with sticking with what works for them, the backwards compatibility thing will definitely sit well with me, I just wish they’d acknowledge the loyalty of their customers
The switch will remain an affordable system. For this reason, I don’t expect a Steam Deck-like SSD solution for games that require a lot of bandwidth. The Switch 2 will likely rely on SD cards and a moderate amount of onboard memory like we currently have. Relying on SD cards would in turn means that cartridges wouldn’t be out of the question since they have a comparable performance.
I can't wait for them to reveal this next model & it be LCD, so that way this Nintendo CZcamsr can talk for the next 1-3 years about the OLED version of this successor. Oh boy am I excited about that!
All that matters to me is if it is backwards compatible or not. If I don't have access to the library I've accumulated on the new hardware, no buy, simple as that. I think this is a likely outcome since they like to resell you everything over and over again.
When the Switch was called the NX I was exited, right now I feel disenchantment. I love video games but greediness is making the industry imploding. Video games are art!
The only examples of Nintendo home consoles going to a new model were Wii to Wii U, and in portables: from Gameboy to Gameboy Color, DS -> DSi, DSi -> 3DS. This is great news, if true. I'm not ready to say goodbye to my switch library.
I pretty much assumed the successor would just take the Switch concept, make it more powerful to bring it into the modern era and be backwards compatible to take advantage of the current console's massive library. It's just obvious--Nintendo would have to say otherwise for me to believe they're going for a truly revolutionary design. They hit the goldmine in terms of design with sales to back it up with the Switch--why would they throw it all away and start from scratch? Just look at how damn old the Switch is now and they're *still* milking it for what it's worth. The fact that they just don't seem to want to kill that thing off and seem to want to take the safe route and just run it into the ground should speak volumes on their future console plans. An iteration instead of a revolution just makes more sense no matter how you look at it.
Nintendo needs to give us what we've all been asking for this whole time. A successor to switch which is actually a return to the Virtual Boy, they're magnum opus
The future is a system always with you, like your Mobile. Imagine an actual Switch same size but without bezel, curved edge, rotation possible, magnetic alignment nano-suction lock on all four side, vertical screen gameplay with Joycons, 1x2 tablets to 4x4 tablets direct connection for a dual screen or a bigger screen, full software and hardware backward compatibility like PC, Joycon strap with a cover hiding an rail adapter and removable cord, modular Joycons sticks and buttons, virtual gamepad tablet not dependent on external controller, a strong EGPU dock, also sold separately.
It's the better strategy as well since there's a lot more competition in the handheld space. Nintendo really opened the flood gates and would be foolish to change the course now.
@@jonesymeow9487 I disagree, Nintendo has always been younger market centric. While we all grew up and love their brand, they have never shifted focus on their target audience. No other handheld console is as easy to pick up and play for kids. For this reason, they should and will stick to what is working.
I would like Nintendo to make a only handheld, a hybrid and a homeconsole, all in the same family. I would double dip for the only handheld version and the homeconsole I keep hooked up to my tv or monitor.
I think for Nintendo a console handheld hybrid makes most sense. Ever since the Gameboy there has always been a very popular niche for handheld gaming. Why compete with yourself making a home console and a handheld, when you can just do both. I'm kinda glad they're going with a true successor this go around. I'm mainly a PC gamer and the new handheld gaming pcs like the steamdeck and ally intrigue me, but I think it'll be a few more years before I feel like I can replace my pc with one of those. Which is crazy to say.
It’s likely the game carts for this system might cap to 128GB. Next-gen patches for Switch 1 games such as Mario odyssey, Mario U Deluxe, Wonder, or they might inject DLSS or FSR to upscale them to 4K similar to what you might get on Yuzu.
TOTK very likely to get patched I think (they even showed an upgraded BOTW demo at Gamescom). Idk if the cartridge needs to be that high given how good they are at compression and we're probably not even going into PS5/XBOX territory of assets yet. TOTK exceeded the 16GB by not much and they'll have some room to fill 32GB.
@@mkjjoe If one owns a cartridge I’m pretty sure then all they’ll need is an SD card with enough space to download the upgraded version, if digital it may just simply overwrite the switch versions.
Today’s switch game cards have only half of the game and the rest has to be downloaded due to lack of storage on the game card. The new Switch games will be bigger in size and more memory means higher game prices. TOTK was $70 due to a bigger card size. Would not surprise me if the new Switch is digital only with a card slot for old switch games.
I agree with the others it will be a DS and 3DS situation where the cartridges will be slightly different same with the console being different and or bigger too. Maybe dual cartridge slot? I am sure the console will have better frames and what not and I hope it’ll at least be 30 fps. Nintendo fans can finally see what they are missing out on fps wise. 😂
Or... the fact that they know that 100 millions of physical game collectors will become pissed off if their games will not work with Switch 2 and gonna vote with their wallet: not gonna buy it. There's gonna be huge criticism if Switch 2 cannot play Switch games! Many of the customers are families with children/kids. If these parents gonna buy the new console the main requirement is a game card slot that will accept Switch 1 games. The most likely reason why it takes so long for Switch 2 is that Nintendo wants Switch 2 to be insanely more powerful than Switch 1. Early 2025 is 8 years after Switch 1. 8 years of tech evolution, just imagine. 2-3 years of evolution will only bring a minor but nice improvement. 8 years will be like "night and day". Switch 1 gonna feel so old! How could we even play games on Switch 1, that's how we gonna feel when using Switch 2. And the next reason: 4K upscaling (DLSS). To upscale to 4K you need two things... 1 - non-4K content 2 - upscaling solution The non-4K content is the Switch 1 games. The upscaling solution is a newer chip from Nvidia. Most likely Nvidia. This combo means that you need a game card slot for Switch 1 games. I'm so excited!! :)
So I'm wondering if the new system will actually run natively at something like 2K in docked mode but DLSS will upscale to close to 4K. Also I'm not sure if there is a mobile chipset that can handle 4K resolutions, I mean it's never been needed. Almost no one has a 4K tablet, they are all pretty much 1080p. So I'm wondering if there's an extra graphics chip in the dock to help with upscaling. Just speculating.
All the processing will be done by the Switch 2 itself. It will use DLSS to upscale to 4K when docked and the screen itself is a 1080p screen. The dock will remain an empty box as it is now.
@@stephkm3655 okay that makes sense. It’ll run 1080p natively and rely on upscaling to 4K. It probably won’t look as crisp as current gen consoles and quality will dip as it tries to maintain a set frame rate, but when has Nintendo ever kept up graphically with its competitors.
@@some13ls3 DLSS is a game changer. Just imagine if Switch 1 had that. Games like Bayo 3 or the Xeno games will run in DLSS 1080p docked rather than the ~600p they are suffering now.
Am i surprised? Yes and no. I was hoping it would be essentially Switch 2, but i considered the possibility that they may want to go back to a traditional console.
I'm glad Nintendo is basically keeping same form factor and heard it'll be fully backwards compatible will seal the deal for me. We don't need another watered down PC wannabe box system like the completely underwhelming PS5 and Xbox Series X on the market. Nintendo also has all my favourite IPs like Zelda, Fire Emblem and Xenoblade anyway :-)
I definitely want to keep the hybrid system with 4K 60 FPS on all games. It's time to experience Nintendo Power once again. With lots of bells & whistles.
Between july 2024 and march 2025. We don't know more specific than that. We can only guess. I'm worst at guessing but I hope for a pre-Xmas 2024 release.
I think we and Nintendo all know how successful the Nintendo Switch is, they would capitalize on that. They no longer need two systems, handheld and home console, they have a hybrid. Why would they change or reinvent the wheel when is making so much money. The next switch would be the evolution of the Switch staying a hybrid console but improved upon. Backwards compatibility is necessary to keep selling games from the switch and keeping existing users active. While people who want the next gen will have access to exclusive games for the Switch 2.
Wait okey they say its a new model so its mean its not a next gen but like new advance model maybe it will be called switch advance for the buffy switch
Im glad nintendo is sticking with the switch and if it's powerful as i've been hearing and if we start getting more of the big 3rd party games ported to it i might just start maining the switch.
The fact that Furakawa stated "Next model Switch, is the best way to describe it" is the most direct confimration of backwards compatiblity and a power upgrade, from his mouth that we ever had. It is the same as a 100% confirmation; as opposed to before where it was more of a 90% confirmation.
Furukawa said "Successor to the Nintendo Switch" not "The next model Switch" if you will quote someone at least do it properly.. And yes Nintendo semi-confirmed backwards compatibility waaaaaay back before this announcement. The problem with this one is the scope of this support since they haven't specified anything yet..
@vivid8979 To be fair,; there were two translations going around, and one had said "next switch model is an accurate description" Though i do agree that the heavy emphasis on the Nintendo account carrying foward; was a confirmation of Backwards compatibility, but many still could see Grey areas in that statement.
Love the ideas and concepts expressed in this video, though I do remain skeptical with how the current gaming landscape as a whole is. Either way I would love to see games (especially 1st party games) expand on their initial ideas. For example I would love to have a Mario game where New Donk City is the main hub and every level is an extension of it. Or a Zelda game that pushes the boundaries of where Link can go and what he can do even beyond Tears of the Kingdom. Or best yet a new F-Zero game that incorporates high fidelity and speed in the 100 + VS aspect. Either way I hope the sky’s the limit with next system, but until it’s actually said and done, I again remain skeptical.
I must say my switch games look a lot better on a 4K TV even if it isn't technically 4K. The colors are much more vivid and pop. Games frame rate seem to be improved as well or at least it runs smoother. I don't know too much about the technical jargon but I can definitely see a difference Nintendo, games have huge potential in actual 4K
I was really hoping that we would ditch carts by now and go back to disks. I want a gamecube 2, not a 3rd iteration of the switch. Sadily, it seems that it's gonna be the equivalent of the jump from the 3DS to the new 3DS.
You don't need 4K gaming on TV unless you are sitting very close to the TV. 4k monitors are different since you are usually within a few feet from the monitor. Games running at 1080p is plenty to game on a TV. The main advantage of a 4K TV is it's hard to detect any dead pixels.
@@Mathieuacc true, but I also would argue that it still doesn’t need to be as powerful. I still buy games for the switch knowing they have lower graphics quality.
Honestly a hybrid system is the smart decision for Nintendo. It is truthfully what they should do since they have built a foundation and expectation for that style at this point. I personally am sick and tired of hearing about the next gen Nintendo console at this point and really hope they throw a curve ball and shock everyone. Its been legit 3 to 4 years talking about some pro model or next gen. S**t gets old. Anyways great content as always!
We all figured it was going to be a continuation because it’s successful with over 140 million consoles why stop now we all hope the next system is more powerful as the ps4 which would be awesome they’re leading the market so don’t drop the ball now keep going they had to remember they were on top for a few years before Sony so now let’s take the lead back and have everyone one chasing you now
@@thelastdragon5551 yeah this is the actual first real gaming news when it comes to the switch he’s put up in a while it’s just ridiculous now they are all grabbing at whatever can make a video even if it’s all speculation lol
@@thelastdragon5551 nah Spawnwave used to do good videos and he went on a 2 week binge along with RGT just putting up nonsense “Switch 2” Rumors, RGT 2 weeks ago was just like switch force
I'll be surprised if they actually go along with back-tracking, because Nintendo don't normally do back-tracking anything, when it comes their new console (revision handhelds excluded). And I personally believe this because it's a consumer and developer demand in 2024. So, Nintendo don't have any choice in the matter. I just hope that they consider: 1. A new Dock with high-end graphics that could play games 4k to rival the PSX5 and Xbox even if it's not as good. 2. a decent handheld device upgrade with better Joy cons. 3. VR support in Dock mode. But for now, my only concern is with the new June Direct because I desperately need to see some good software. And not these shovelware nonsense Nintendo has been cramming down our throat in the past 5 months or so.
This is a shame. Nintendo needs to be a force of innovation. As RGT said each of their consecutive consoles has introduced some defining new element. That’s why they’ve always been a blue ocean strategy company. If this next console is just an upgraded Switch Nintendo will effectively alter the very essence of the company.
The problem with reinventing the wheel is that you need a really good idea first. Short of that, just making a beefed up Switch is the safest bet. My 3 main gripes with the Switch console are: 1) The 3rd party titles crashing the system all the f*cking time. Just figure out what they are doing wrong and teach them, already! 2) The framerate drops. I don't care for games being in 4k or in 1080p, heck I don't mind if they go back to 16 bits. But I want smooth framerates. 3) Over time, my Switch somehow got twisted on a microscopic level. and now, whenever I try to play in handheld mode, the Joycons on the sides keep disconnecting. Really annoying. System needs to be more robust. Of course, that's only looking at the hardware side of things. AAA gaming have been such a dumpster fire recently, with the current lack of good games, unlike with the previous generations where I always ended up buying the new console within a year after launch, at the rate things are going right now, I expect the Switch 2 to be worth being bought about 5 years after launch.
meh. 4k not needed. 1440P 60fps with sharpening and other NVIDIA features and it will be perfect. People are way too hung up on 4k and I just don't think it's as important as many people think these days.
I know this will sould odd but I only play in Handheld, its the way im most comfortable, I can play wherever whenever, if nintendos next console wasnt hyprid or they released a new handheld like a 4DS I honestly wouldnt buy it right away. Id probably wait until the next Smash Bros came out.
Yeah, probably for the best. Nintendo can wait until next gen before they do something weird. Just give it more power and 4K resolution and I am happy. Oh, and Nintendo did not go directly from 16 bit SNES to 64 bit N64, you are forgetting their 32 bit system in between there, the Virtual boy (or you might have repressed those memories). Yeah, it failed badly but it was a system and one very different from previous system. The last direct upgrade without any weird or fancy stuff was from NES to SNES.
As long as my switch carts work with the new system, without internet required, I’ll be happy.
If the switch carts won’t work on the next console. I won’t be buying it. Sorry Nintendo. 🙅
The WII U definitely had 3rd party support problems. I remember reading that several developers went off the record at the time saying it was because Nintendo mandated using their handheld screen as part of their game design. It was apparently very awkward to develop for.
yet Ubisoft did great things with it. CoD was fun to play on the pad plus the maps and perks were all mapped to it as well, the devs were just lazy
Yeah , I remember reading the same excuses. But TBH, ngl, that was kinda of a lazy excuse tgey could've easily just always defaulted to using it for the HUD on any game . That's mainly what most did & it was useful but at least effort needed . The system wasn't really hard to develop, for they just made including pad more difficult than needed
Yeah the Wii U not having the best 3rd party support is primarily the fault of Lazy developers, the DS was more than well established at this point and developers knew darn well how they could develop for the Wii U because a lot of them developed for the DS which is the same thing except the screens are directly connected, if developers would’ve just thought of it like developing for a more powerful DS or 3DS everything would’ve been fine and I do believe that’s why the Wii U got a metric ton of support just before the end, developers either stopped being Lazy or finally got the lightbulb moment realizing how easy it could’ve been the whole time.
It better still use physical media
I'm not a Nintendo CZcamsr, but I personally feel like the backwards compatibility would be through the Nintendo account and you would just re-download your previous purchases.
Digital games right?
**Opens up CZcams**
"Oh, that's a new Nintendo Video by RGT85."
And guess what there is a new one
Nintendo will call the next console "Wii Zu U"
"Wii lav tu sak wiiwiis"
Something tells me the cartridge isn’t going away for this system. The 3DS was able to pull this off by having the cartridge slot support both 3DS and DS games. Who’s to say the Seitch 2’s cartridge slot could handle itself the same way?
Of course it will
Honestly I would love a system just like the Switch but with the dual screens like a 3DS and foldable so you can dock it. Have bigger and longer joycons slide on the side as before and just have it more powerful to run bigger games. I would love that.
You’re not getting dual screen with the size of the Switch. It’ll be too problematic due to damages.
Not sure if you meant it but I think nes to snes is a better example of a direct successor
I was thinking the same thing, N64 introduced 4 player games. NES to SNES was just more buttons.
@@akumaisreal2090 and I believe it was a jump to 16 bit but it was essentially the same thing with better specs and quality of life changes
SNES was way better than the NES in many ways. I got the Original NES in 1985 when it came out, I was 6yo. I picked up the SNES when it came out and I was a teen. SNES was a giant leap. Compare Original Gameboy to Gameboy color and you have very little change besides a smaller handheld and color graphics. Still not back-lit and not much different than the 1st gen.
@@tommyagain38 in what ways other than better specs, a bit increase and new buttons? Also why comment this to me when I’m the one pointing out the improvements to someone else?
@tommyagain38 true, but the point being made was that there were unique innovations between consoles. NES to SNES was more power and more buttons, a major improvement, but it built on what was already there.
N64 introduced 4 player mode, GameCube introduced the mini-disc format, Wii was motion controls, Wii U was gamepad, and Switch is a hybrid console/handheld system.
I want bigger joycons.
its happening lol
I want joycon wobble to be gone…. I put little squares of tape on my OLED rails.
That's what she said... She has big hands
@@dimbulb6443that’s what the magnets are for
Do you like everything big?
You sound suspiciously like a Nintendo CZcamsr RGT.
After a wild day in the gaming world, Nintendo of all companies appears to be the only game company capable of appearing stable at the moment. I think this confirms that the next system is a refresh, but probably not in the way that the PS4 was a refresh of the PS3. I think there will be a lot of future-proofing features built in--upscaling, AI, etc., but also ways in which the system may be able to work with other systems, apps, services, including the current switch. They said a while back that the next system is part of the "switch" family. They said they also want to only produce one games for one system at a time. So, I think a lot of the secrecy around the system is really more around making sure they can deliver on how they can have two systems in circulation, while only producing for one (at least for awhile).
I'm excited for just a more powerful console
The wii to the wii u is probably a sequel console.
I think they're going the same route as the nintendo 3ds and new 3ds. The oled model felt like an xl version that didn't change much, and we have the 2ds like the switch lite
Exactly what i think it will be
That’s my hope
Hopefully its a significantly bigger upgrade than the new 3ds was lol
It's been a long time since the switch came out and console lifespan. it's gotta be at least PS4 pro by now. The jump from 3DSXl to new 3DS was minimal at best.
@Rickt2445 tbh I think it was bec the new model introduced facial tracking for the 3d and it was also quite more powerful than all the other 3ds's
This is definitely the right move, but we need more than double the power and 4k upscaling in docked mode at a minimum. It's been more than enough time and we need more from Nintendo this time around.
Backwards compatibility IS A MUST I have a small fortune invested in physical Switch games and Ill be pissed if I cant use them on the new Switch
it also must have eshop backwards compatibility
Mario Odyssey in UNREAL ENGINE!
YOU GET MY MONEY!😂
If 4K is upscaled from 1080p, the devs only have to worry about making the games look good for Full HD and DLSS will take care of the rest.
Exactly
The switch is literally perfect, all they gotta do is bring out the same thing, with a better resolution, and more power. They even have some room to increase the price based on alternative consoles - just really need to get that updated performance in there. 1080p resolution would also be so sick
That’s what’s rumored, 1080p in handheld and upscaled 4k in docked
the higher price will turn off a lot of consumers
I’m ok with sticking with what works for them, the backwards compatibility thing will definitely sit well with me, I just wish they’d acknowledge the loyalty of their customers
The switch will remain an affordable system. For this reason, I don’t expect a Steam Deck-like SSD solution for games that require a lot of bandwidth.
The Switch 2 will likely rely on SD cards and a moderate amount of onboard memory like we currently have. Relying on SD cards would in turn means that cartridges wouldn’t be out of the question since they have a comparable performance.
I can't wait for them to reveal this next model & it be LCD, so that way this Nintendo CZcamsr can talk for the next 1-3 years about the OLED version of this successor. Oh boy am I excited about that!
All that matters to me is if it is backwards compatible or not. If I don't have access to the library I've accumulated on the new hardware, no buy, simple as that. I think this is a likely outcome since they like to resell you everything over and over again.
When the Switch was called the NX I was exited, right now I feel disenchantment. I love video games but greediness is making the industry imploding. Video games are art!
The only examples of Nintendo home consoles going to a new model were Wii to Wii U, and in portables: from Gameboy to Gameboy Color, DS -> DSi, DSi -> 3DS. This is great news, if true. I'm not ready to say goodbye to my switch library.
You're going to cover the system because you are a Nintendo CZcamsr. I say this with affection.
I pretty much assumed the successor would just take the Switch concept, make it more powerful to bring it into the modern era and be backwards compatible to take advantage of the current console's massive library. It's just obvious--Nintendo would have to say otherwise for me to believe they're going for a truly revolutionary design. They hit the goldmine in terms of design with sales to back it up with the Switch--why would they throw it all away and start from scratch?
Just look at how damn old the Switch is now and they're *still* milking it for what it's worth. The fact that they just don't seem to want to kill that thing off and seem to want to take the safe route and just run it into the ground should speak volumes on their future console plans. An iteration instead of a revolution just makes more sense no matter how you look at it.
Nintendo needs to give us what we've all been asking for this whole time. A successor to switch which is actually a return to the Virtual Boy, they're magnum opus
id imagine we're gonna get news on prime 4 finally? shadow drops for prime 2 and 3, maybe hopefully finally get wind waker and twilight princess
The actual new system info based from official Nintendo:
"We will be announcing a date of announcement for the new system within the fiscal year."
I just did my part and subscribed to your channel! :) I like your vids a bunch! :D
The future is a system always with you, like your Mobile. Imagine an actual Switch same size but without bezel, curved edge, rotation possible, magnetic alignment nano-suction lock on all four side, vertical screen gameplay with Joycons, 1x2 tablets to 4x4 tablets direct connection for a dual screen or a bigger screen, full software and hardware backward compatibility like PC, Joycon strap with a cover hiding an rail adapter and removable cord, modular Joycons sticks and buttons, virtual gamepad tablet not dependent on external controller, a strong EGPU dock, also sold separately.
Weerrrrrrrttttttt?!?!?!?
There’s no way that with the phrase “next Switch” that they won’t have backwards capabilities
Why try something new when this formula works more than great... What exactly will we get who knows
It's the better strategy as well since there's a lot more competition in the handheld space. Nintendo really opened the flood gates and would be foolish to change the course now.
@@jonesymeow9487 I disagree, Nintendo has always been younger market centric. While we all grew up and love their brand, they have never shifted focus on their target audience. No other handheld console is as easy to pick up and play for kids. For this reason, they should and will stick to what is working.
I would like Nintendo to make a only handheld, a hybrid and a homeconsole, all in the same family. I would double dip for the only handheld version and the homeconsole I keep hooked up to my tv or monitor.
I think for Nintendo a console handheld hybrid makes most sense. Ever since the Gameboy there has always been a very popular niche for handheld gaming. Why compete with yourself making a home console and a handheld, when you can just do both. I'm kinda glad they're going with a true successor this go around. I'm mainly a PC gamer and the new handheld gaming pcs like the steamdeck and ally intrigue me, but I think it'll be a few more years before I feel like I can replace my pc with one of those. Which is crazy to say.
4k. Don't forget Nintendo's patent on the dock being a co-processor.
It’s likely the game carts for this system might cap to 128GB. Next-gen patches for Switch 1 games such as Mario odyssey, Mario U Deluxe, Wonder, or they might inject DLSS or FSR to upscale them to 4K similar to what you might get on Yuzu.
TOTK very likely to get patched I think (they even showed an upgraded BOTW demo at Gamescom). Idk if the cartridge needs to be that high given how good they are at compression and we're probably not even going into PS5/XBOX territory of assets yet. TOTK exceeded the 16GB by not much and they'll have some room to fill 32GB.
@@mkjjoe If one owns a cartridge I’m pretty sure then all they’ll need is an SD card with enough space to download the upgraded version, if digital it may just simply overwrite the switch versions.
Today’s switch game cards have only half of the game and the rest has to be downloaded due to lack of storage on the game card. The new Switch games will be bigger in size and more memory means higher game prices. TOTK was $70 due to a bigger card size. Would not surprise me if the new Switch is digital only with a card slot for old switch games.
the digital only console would need to have at least 256gb of storage
If 32GB cartridges becomes their norm they can take the cost at scale. TOTK required that but barely used it, they'll have a good margin with it.
I agree with the others it will be a DS and 3DS situation where the cartridges will be slightly different same with the console being different and or bigger too. Maybe dual cartridge slot? I am sure the console will have better frames and what not and I hope it’ll at least be 30 fps. Nintendo fans can finally see what they are missing out on fps wise. 😂
Nintendo going all out against Switch emulators, now of all times, I think speaks for itself about backwards compatibility.
Or... the fact that they know that 100 millions of physical game collectors will become pissed off if their games will not work with Switch 2 and gonna vote with their wallet: not gonna buy it.
There's gonna be huge criticism if Switch 2 cannot play Switch games!
Many of the customers are families with children/kids. If these parents gonna buy the new console the main requirement is a game card slot that will accept Switch 1 games.
The most likely reason why it takes so long for Switch 2 is that Nintendo wants Switch 2 to be insanely more powerful than Switch 1. Early 2025 is 8 years after Switch 1. 8 years of tech evolution, just imagine. 2-3 years of evolution will only bring a minor but nice improvement. 8 years will be like "night and day". Switch 1 gonna feel so old! How could we even play games on Switch 1, that's how we gonna feel when using Switch 2.
And the next reason: 4K upscaling (DLSS). To upscale to 4K you need two things...
1 - non-4K content
2 - upscaling solution
The non-4K content is the Switch 1 games. The upscaling solution is a newer chip from Nvidia. Most likely Nvidia. This combo means that you need a game card slot for Switch 1 games.
I'm so excited!! :)
RGT85 may not be a Nintendo youtuber, but Shawn loves Nintendo haha
So I'm wondering if the new system will actually run natively at something like 2K in docked mode but DLSS will upscale to close to 4K. Also I'm not sure if there is a mobile chipset that can handle 4K resolutions, I mean it's never been needed. Almost no one has a 4K tablet, they are all pretty much 1080p. So I'm wondering if there's an extra graphics chip in the dock to help with upscaling. Just speculating.
All the processing will be done by the Switch 2 itself. It will use DLSS to upscale to 4K when docked and the screen itself is a 1080p screen. The dock will remain an empty box as it is now.
@@stephkm3655 okay that makes sense. It’ll run 1080p natively and rely on upscaling to 4K. It probably won’t look as crisp as current gen consoles and quality will dip as it tries to maintain a set frame rate, but when has Nintendo ever kept up graphically with its competitors.
@@some13ls3 DLSS is a game changer. Just imagine if Switch 1 had that. Games like Bayo 3 or the Xeno games will run in DLSS 1080p docked rather than the ~600p they are suffering now.
I want to backwards compatibility regardless of if the switch the main theme of the console
Rgt85 is not a Nintendo CZcamsr he is a clickbater with all his Nintendo videos 😂
Why are those mutually exclusive in your mind?
You are right about that
HUGE INFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The switch 2 is going to be better than the switch.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM GOING INSANE! WHAT A REVELATION!!!!
@@DS9TREKbecause he’s NOT a Nintendo youtuber
Road to 500 is paved with rumors of switch 2 and Xbox 720. You got it bro
Thanks for the great news you provide on the gaming world. Thank you sir.
Those OLED users are gonna hate going back to a blooming translucent display
I keep my Switch docked and connected to an OLED display so I’m okay.
I am relieved they are sticking with the Switch hybrid posture.
I was hoping for a Super Switch console. Switch is a tremendous system but i've never loved the hand held's.
Miss the old videos. Nintendo switch rumors every other day 😮
Backward compatibility was a forgone conclusion. Only you and MVG doubted.
Am i surprised? Yes and no. I was hoping it would be essentially Switch 2, but i considered the possibility that they may want to go back to a traditional console.
How do you make a 10 minute video from tweet that they will announce the new console in this financial year? THEY DIDN'T ANNOUNCE ANYTHING ELSE.
I'm glad Nintendo is basically keeping same form factor and heard it'll be fully backwards compatible will seal the deal for me. We don't need another watered down PC wannabe box system like the completely underwhelming PS5 and Xbox Series X on the market. Nintendo also has all my favourite IPs like Zelda, Fire Emblem and Xenoblade anyway :-)
I do solemnly swear, if they release a new switch and ANOTHER DLC for mario kart 8 like the one they already have out..... I am getting that new DLC.
I want it to be called the “Super Nintendo Switch” or SNS.
I've been saying it should be called the NINTENDO SUPER SWITCH since I heard the first rumor.
@@jlritz2553 SUPER SWITCH! 😎
Nintendo ultra switch
I definitely want to keep the hybrid system with 4K 60 FPS on all games. It's time to experience Nintendo Power once again. With lots of bells & whistles.
When will the per-order take place?
2077 😂
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Between july 2024 and march 2025. We don't know more specific than that. We can only guess.
I'm worst at guessing but I hope for a pre-Xmas 2024 release.
Introducing the new Nintendo Swatch!
I think we and Nintendo all know how successful the Nintendo Switch is, they would capitalize on that. They no longer need two systems, handheld and home console, they have a hybrid. Why would they change or reinvent the wheel when is making so much money. The next switch would be the evolution of the Switch staying a hybrid console but improved upon. Backwards compatibility is necessary to keep selling games from the switch and keeping existing users active. While people who want the next gen will have access to exclusive games for the Switch 2.
Wait okey they say its a new model so its mean its not a next gen but like new advance model maybe it will be called switch advance for the buffy switch
Im glad nintendo is sticking with the switch and if it's powerful as i've been hearing and if we start getting more of the big 3rd party games ported to it i might just start maining the switch.
The fact that Furakawa stated "Next model Switch, is the best way to describe it" is the most direct confimration of backwards compatiblity and a power upgrade, from his mouth that we ever had. It is the same as a 100% confirmation; as opposed to before where it was more of a 90% confirmation.
Furukawa said "Successor to the Nintendo Switch" not "The next model Switch" if you will quote someone at least do it properly..
And yes Nintendo semi-confirmed backwards compatibility waaaaaay back before this announcement. The problem with this one is the scope of this support since they haven't specified anything yet..
@vivid8979 To be fair,; there were two translations going around, and one had said "next switch model is an accurate description" Though i do agree that the heavy emphasis on the Nintendo account carrying foward; was a confirmation of Backwards compatibility, but many still could see Grey areas in that statement.
Backwards for sure since the new Switch will have 2 current Switch processors taped together.
@@enriquepinero707Stop trying to save face and just apologize.
Love the ideas and concepts expressed in this video, though I do remain skeptical with how the current gaming landscape as a whole is. Either way I would love to see games (especially 1st party games) expand on their initial ideas. For example I would love to have a Mario game where New Donk City is the main hub and every level is an extension of it. Or a Zelda game that pushes the boundaries of where Link can go and what he can do even beyond Tears of the Kingdom. Or best yet a new F-Zero game that incorporates high fidelity and speed in the 100 + VS aspect. Either way I hope the sky’s the limit with next system, but until it’s actually said and done, I again remain skeptical.
9:20 well it's not the steam deck bro
like come on
I must say my switch games look a lot better on a 4K TV even if it isn't technically 4K. The colors are much more vivid and pop. Games frame rate seem to be improved as well or at least it runs smoother. I don't know too much about the technical jargon but I can definitely see a difference Nintendo, games have huge potential in actual 4K
I was really hoping that we would ditch carts by now and go back to disks. I want a gamecube 2, not a 3rd iteration of the switch. Sadily, it seems that it's gonna be the equivalent of the jump from the 3DS to the new 3DS.
new nvidia chip with DLSS so we can get decent 30-60 fps consistently with 1080p and 4k
Mario or Zelda at a solid 4K 30 fps will look 100x better than let’s stay a Starfield. Looking forward to it!
You don't need 4K gaming on TV unless you are sitting very close to the TV. 4k monitors are different since you are usually within a few feet from the monitor. Games running at 1080p is plenty to game on a TV.
The main advantage of a 4K TV is it's hard to detect any dead pixels.
Will it be called the Ultra switch?
Why compete with the powerful consoles when they have the entire market for handheld gaming?
Because the games are good and I would buy 3rd party games on Switch if I could.
@@Mathieuacc true, but I also would argue that it still doesn’t need to be as powerful. I still buy games for the switch knowing they have lower graphics quality.
Honestly a hybrid system is the smart decision for Nintendo. It is truthfully what they should do since they have built a foundation and expectation for that style at this point. I personally am sick and tired of hearing about the next gen Nintendo console at this point and really hope they throw a curve ball and shock everyone. Its been legit 3 to 4 years talking about some pro model or next gen. S**t gets old. Anyways great content as always!
We all figured it was going to be a continuation because it’s successful with over 140 million consoles why stop now we all hope the next system is more powerful as the ps4 which would be awesome they’re leading the market so don’t drop the ball now keep going they had to remember they were on top for a few years before Sony so now let’s take the lead back and have everyone one chasing you now
lmao you did a video on this announcement yesterday, Another to make it seem like it’s new info damn you guys are reaching for anything now
Slow gaming news season 😂
@@thelastdragon5551 yeah this is the actual first real gaming news when it comes to the switch he’s put up in a while it’s just ridiculous now they are all grabbing at whatever can make a video even if it’s all speculation lol
@@thelastdragon5551 and 2 videos on the same tweet in 2 days is just ridiculous especially when he’s making 8-10 min videos out of this one tweet
@@bkcollectorshop9631 Yup but it’s the name of the game for lots of Nintendo Tubers. At least he’s not as bad as Switchforce. Close though. 😆
@@thelastdragon5551 nah Spawnwave used to do good videos and he went on a 2 week binge along with RGT just putting up nonsense “Switch 2” Rumors, RGT 2 weeks ago was just like switch force
I had different results with the Mclassic
The bird was right about Nintendo world championship game!
I always worry about Nintendo being well Nintendo and changing things up. Watch them go from cartridge to mini disc.
Switch must go next level.
It needs to go super.
Super Nintendo Switch
I'll be surprised if they actually go along with back-tracking, because Nintendo don't normally do back-tracking anything, when it comes their new console (revision handhelds excluded). And I personally believe this because it's a consumer and developer demand in 2024. So, Nintendo don't have any choice in the matter. I just hope that they consider:
1. A new Dock with high-end graphics that could play games 4k to rival the PSX5 and Xbox even if it's not as good.
2. a decent handheld device upgrade with better Joy cons.
3. VR support in Dock mode.
But for now, my only concern is with the new June Direct because I desperately need to see some good software. And not these shovelware nonsense Nintendo has been cramming down our throat in the past 5 months or so.
Backwards compatibility please!
This is a shame. Nintendo needs to be a force of innovation. As RGT said each of their consecutive consoles has introduced some defining new element. That’s why they’ve always been a blue ocean strategy company. If this next console is just an upgraded Switch Nintendo will effectively alter the very essence of the company.
1440p with decent frame rates would be great.
I just want Metroid Prime 2 and 3 remasters. Then Metroid Prime 4 and I'll be happy. 🤗
It's going to be called the Switch U
So the next question is will it be "New Nintendo Switch, Super Nintendo Switch, or Nintendo Switch 2"
The problem with reinventing the wheel is that you need a really good idea first.
Short of that, just making a beefed up Switch is the safest bet.
My 3 main gripes with the Switch console are:
1) The 3rd party titles crashing the system all the f*cking time. Just figure out what they are doing wrong and teach them, already!
2) The framerate drops. I don't care for games being in 4k or in 1080p, heck I don't mind if they go back to 16 bits. But I want smooth framerates.
3) Over time, my Switch somehow got twisted on a microscopic level. and now, whenever I try to play in handheld mode, the Joycons on the sides keep disconnecting. Really annoying. System needs to be more robust.
Of course, that's only looking at the hardware side of things. AAA gaming have been such a dumpster fire recently, with the current lack of good games,
unlike with the previous generations where I always ended up buying the new console within a year after launch,
at the rate things are going right now, I expect the Switch 2 to be worth being bought about 5 years after launch.
meh. 4k not needed. 1440P 60fps with sharpening and other NVIDIA features and it will be perfect. People are way too hung up on 4k and I just don't think it's as important as many people think these days.
100% agreed
This is what I want.
I know this will sould odd but I only play in Handheld, its the way im most comfortable, I can play wherever whenever, if nintendos next console wasnt hyprid or they released a new handheld like a 4DS I honestly wouldnt buy it right away. Id probably wait until the next Smash Bros came out.
No one seems to say this but, I want a joycon grip built in. i hate buying accessories.
I just want a regular console from nintendo, like please
Switch Attach, time to bring back dual screen gaming!!!
Yeah, probably for the best. Nintendo can wait until next gen before they do something weird. Just give it more power and 4K resolution and I am happy.
Oh, and Nintendo did not go directly from 16 bit SNES to 64 bit N64, you are forgetting their 32 bit system in between there, the Virtual boy (or you might have repressed those memories). Yeah, it failed badly but it was a system and one very different from previous system. The last direct upgrade without any weird or fancy stuff was from NES to SNES.
Just give me more power…. I waaaant the powerrrrrr
Switch 2 must powerful enough to play GTA 6!
They haven't used cartridges since the N64. These are cards. Get it right 😊
These are still ROM cartridges.
I can’t tell if he’s joking or not when pronouncing Furukawa’s name. Cause he says Furukara with an r.
Hopefully it’s backward compatible!
I wonder how people are going to be reacting after the news drops, will they be talking about the Nintendo switch 2 pro, after the news drops.