African American History and the Culture Wars with Dr. Henry Louis Gates Jr - S2 Ep 3
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- A standard-bearer in the field of African American Studies, Dr. Henry Louis Gates Jr. of Harvard joins the co-hosts of Straight Ahead: The Omni-American Podcast for an excursion into the history of the sacred to secular cultural forms-music, oratory, literature, dance-created by Black Americans. Relating his personal story as well as his many books and documentaries, “Skip” Gates emphasizes how intertwined “black” and “white” Americans are and how this reality is tragically obscured by the Culture Wars post-Reconstruction to now. Throughout the conversation, in which his experience in Africa and with Africans holds a special place, Prof. Gates displays a sense of humor intrinsic to his personal style and the Afro-American tradition.
Articles Mentioned:
Carl Jung’s “Your Negroid and Indian Behavior” - bit.ly/3PYwwCG
Canonization of Jazz and Afro-American Literature - bit.ly/49yE5H3
The Black Studies War: Multiculturalism vs. Afrocentricity - bit.ly/43XwyjL
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00:00 Intro
00:28 Discussion with Dr. Henry Louis Gates
02:35 Homage to Albert Murray
04:44 African American Studies in 2024
10:03 Cultural Contributions and Patriotism
15:05 Transmission of Tradition and Inner Strength
26:00 Saturday Night and Sunday Morning
30:01 Culture Over Race
35:16 Identity Revelation
46:31 Cultural Wars and Traditions
52:51 Advancements in African American Studies
59:00 Cultural Traditions and Identity
1:15:08 Subscribe to Straight Ahead!"
Informative, inspiring , and helpful. I am a Jew( yes, Hebrew school can be improved but the idea of learning history and improving children’s sense of self is admirable.). I identify with the pain and joy of your history and mine. You extend my vision and deepen my understanding of the connections of culture to include all of us. I will look for many of the authors you cite, including Jung. I feel the truth of interconnection. Thank you for giving me hope that we can learn that we are each unique and we are all one.
Same🤗🌌💓🥂💐
Also iv seen really black 🖤 yes black people all over the world mostly in Kenya. However iv never ever seen white person????
Are you saying you are Jewish / Israeli or are you saying that you are a descendant of the ancient Israelites that are written about in the Bible? I ask because there is a difference.
This is magnificent! Thanks everyone for this important podcast.
You're nailing it!
I’m sincerely grateful that I found your channel and this particular episode.
I’m a huge fan of Dr. Gate’s work over the years and cannot wait to watch this interview.
I’m quite busy at the moment so I bookmarked this show and I’l watch later.
Blessings! 🙏🏾
BLACK AMERICANS ARE THE CULTURE. 1 💪🏾
Great points about the diversity of Blackness throughout the world. Love your own story!!!
Thanks for this interview and truthful history🇺🇲🗽
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This in depth podcast was excellent. I enjoyed learning so much about Dr. Henry Louis Gates Jr. Thank you for posting. ❤👍🏾🦉🙏🏾
An Outstanding Presentation!
Its nice to know where what youve been to know where youre going, just remember past is past and present is what you make it be
Gates says at 54:48 that we have to tell the truth, and talk about the necessity of taking responsibility for our own actions. He added - everyone knows the causes of poverty are structural and behavioral. There! - he said it! Now what will be the response from all in this social and social media especially, network of people speaking on the situation and condition of Black-Americans? He titled this video aptly by referencing it with the term 'culture war'. There is a distinct ideological, not just divide, but fracturing that has been ongoing among us for decades now - a half century at least, it seems to me. I don't recall Gates using the term woke, if he even talked much about this particular aspect of the waring among us. As a layperson - I'm no scholar or even college educated, but I'd like to present may thoughts, which I think are valid and constructive and generated over my lifetime, to this much needed conversation, that it seems we have been avoiding.
I have been charging intellectual dishonesty at none other than Michael Eric Dyson, and anyone else, who like him, has for many years been charging any Black person, who speaks critically of anything some of us do, that is obviously counter-productive, to their individual growth, development, and well doing, and our communities as well, with practicing" respectability politics', and/or seeing ourselves through the "White gaze".
They inexplicably say that Black on Black crime is not a thing, because (in so many words) people kill people they live near. They talk of proximity, and their argument basically says that it is the main consideration in crimes of violence Black commit on/against each other. They often add - "no other people talk about them killing one another". Them saying all this basically means to them 'well the s-word happens' - what can you do?'.
Proximity is a major consideration if not thee main consideration, but is not the proximity they speak of. The physical closeness of the victim and perpetrator is not the proximity that matters most in this situation. It is the closeness of the relationship between the two. This they inexplicably don't consider. The familiar relationship between the two makes it an even greater wrong/harm, especially in serious crimes like homicides, as this is why the words suicide, fratricide and incest exist as words, that specify crimes. All people see them as greater wrongs/harms. The other major consideration is that we of all people can afford to add to our already bad condition and position in society. Need I mention they don't consider that it is not a rate that is comparable with other groups, but one much higher?
I have posted this argument countless time, and have sometimes asked - rescue me if I'm wrong, to borrow a phrase I heard from Maulana Karenga. Show me the error of my ways? I have yet to hear anyone do that. Most times they get no comments at all. Sometimes a like. I have never heard these arguments repeated. If they exist, it may conform the idea that we are dysfunctional as a group.
Why do the most non-sensical things spread like weeds, but questions and comments fundamentally pertinent to the issues we discuss, not get picked up, and debated? How can we ever solve the significant problems we have? Why are people allowed to talk publicly as if they represent all or most of us, and say things that most of us obviously don't agree with, and there is no outcry about it, from us? How can some of us talk the way they do about reparations, as if they know what it will do for us? How can they say it would mean a transfer of wealth, since the vast majority of the wealth, is in the hands of a very small percent of the population? None of us can insure that all of us will even make the most of what reparation might offer. It is likely that those who are not taking advantage of the opportunities that already exist, will likely not with reparations either. So what happens if much of the problems still exist? How is going to police all of us, into doing the right things? Are our communities overpoliced party because we ourselves under-police them?
Gates is correct, we must first deal with the internal causes of our problems. This makes logical sense, because we have significant control over what we do or don't do, but have little to none over the external causes, which it seems, most believe are racism in all its forms, otherwise commonly referred to as "racism White supremacy'.
It is more than ironic that the two individuals who introduced these concept/notion also advocated that we must respond to it, in kind in a systemic and structured manner. Mr. Neeley Fuller Jr. and the late Dr. Francis Cress Welshing advocated we use Mr. Fuller's idea of what he calls his 'The United Independent Compensatory Code/System/Concept'. The basic idea is that we must compensate for our unique disadvantaged situation. It basically spells out basic common sense practices, we must adhere to. It is basically no different than the the attitude expressed in the old adage that use to be common among us, that we had to be twice as good to get ahead. It basically extended that reasoning and said among other things that - if we want a better chance of a comfortable and peaceful life, we must be twice as good to ourselves and each other. This was also the attitude among many of us. The Black Baptist Church Women Evelyn Brooks Higginbotham wrote about in her book 'Righteous Discontent....' . Black Nationalist/Separatists Like Marcus Garvey's movement/organization and the NOI, had/had the same attitude of self-respect and self-reliance/personal initiative.
For all the talk of CRT critical thinking about race relations, especially, is more needed. I wonder if there is a connection between Fuller and Welsing and the original CRT? Was Fuller influenced by the prior schools of 'Critical Theory', that CRT came out of? When exactly did this shift first start and become more common among intellectuals and activists, that to expect the basic of personal responsibilities from us, is seen as blaming the victim? This is how I see woke-ism. The attitude that all our problems are external and none internal, is insane. Those who express this attitude were not allowed to have it, nor do they allow it from their children.
Again this is the gaslighting that we as a group have been allowing to happen to us. It parallels how we have sat by and watched and engaged in ourselves the systemic decline of our communities by the loss of so many lives, through drug addiction and violence often from drug selling, and a lack of economic development, largely because of the level of violence in them. For many decades, many of us have said "our people sell drugs to survive", when it is not difficult for anyone to survive in any modern society. This has been said, as if people would die, if they missed their next meal, like the starving emaciated Africans, in search of food, water, and shelter, because of drought, famine, or war, older generation use to see on TV.
From right-on, being down for the cause, conscious, keeping it real, to woke, it all has been a joke. We have yet to be honest with ourselves. When do we start or will we ever? Will Gate be one brave honest soul crying in the wilderness or we join him and getting us at least turned around and back in the right direct and state of mind to seriously try to first do all we can within our power to make all the positive aspirations we have a possibility as well as a reality for all.
Your comments receive no replies and likes because it's obvious that you're speaking logic and not pandering to emotion.
Neely Fully once said that our people love to "feel good" and he certainly did not lie.
Critical thinking doesn't inherently make one feel good.
And unfortunately, for many of us, neither does objective introspection and taking self agency/accountability in the state of our personal lives and our community.
Sadly, post Civil Rights era black "leaders" , commentators, pundits and "intellectuals" are much more concerned with telling our people what they want to hear instead of what they need to.
Pair that with a family structure largely decimated in the crack era, an almost entirely inept (for the purpose of advancing our people) intelligentsia, culturally internalized American-style anti-inllectualism and living in a social media fuelled, post-modernist, neo-liberal world where even the scientific and academic realms have begun to prioritize feelings over facts and voila. You now have the perfect recipe for a people who, at best, will ignore the painful, but empowering truth and, at worse, will actively attack and ostracize those of us who say what needs to be said. It's truly tragic.
From my POV, the only feasible solution is for the most rational, truthful and self-empowerment oriented of us to band together and form our own communities, media and institutions. Trying to convince disingenuous people that the sky is blue is ultimately a fruitless endeavor that drains us of precious time and resources we could be using to build. My inner bleeding heart would love to save all of us but it's just impractical at this point. Maybe we can save the next generations, but many of the adults are just too far gone IMO.
On a side note, it was great reading through your comment! Seeing that reason still exists among us gives me hope. ✊🏾
I like that he said Black Americans have been the patriot for ever aspect of America. It's not only true but it's also the reason black people can have the freedom to voice our opinion about this country rather you agree or not! The truth can be ugly and sometimes people hate to even stomach real truth. When a black person voice their Truth or freedom of speech regarding this country it isn't an act of terrorist, anti, or any bracket that people like to throw at strong-minded, blunt, and straightforward BAs.
Bravo!!👏🏾 👏🏾
My ancestry is very diverse and interesting. I did my DNA recently and my genetic makeup is African, Scotish, Irish, Swedish, Danish, Welsh, and Norway as well as Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Benin, Togo, Congo, Mali, and Benin. Our family lived in Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, Mississippi, Southeastern Louisiana, Orleans, Terrebonne, Houma, Opelousas, Baton Rouge, Pointe Coupee, St. Helena Parishes. I found 2 great grandfathers on the Freedman's Cherokee and Choctaw tribes of Dawes Roll. Surnames are Sturgis, Campbell, Calvin, McGraw, Youngblood, Taylor, Noffley, and Banks.
Oh WOW!😊you've done some digging there cher!.. I come from a family thats very diverse aswell not as much as yours though lol..well, that Ive found..luckily most of my family were documented prior to Louisiana becoming a state so it was kinda easy in a way..also learning about my family has always been a part of my life at a young age..we are mostly of African,French, Caddo(Natchitoches) Choctaw, Lipan Apache(were brought to central louisiana from texas as slaves)..Spanish..i think we have Anglo-Euro aswell..always tell people try an trace every line you have, like we all have 256= 6th Greatgrand parents an so on!!!
Now THAT'S Omni-American!
We served as captives who were trapped on stolen land...headlocked by Church and Military
Harlem On My Mind, foreword By Henry Louis Gates Jr. “A Remarkable Work” - President Bill Clinton.😊😊😊
Wonderful.
Love you Henry!
Never straight, always forward.
Actually I DID encounter ONE African American from FLORIDA on ancestry who showed ZERO European ethnicity. I was shocked. They were a rarity.
The book 13 ways was how I found Albert.
Ring-shout is surely older than the blues and the spirituals. Gates didn't even mention the field hollers, or did I miss that?
Whites had the tradition of the lament song style/form, which is similar to the Blues, in that they both are songs of sorrow. In fact many other cultures have songs of sorrow. So the Blues is seen in some style in much of humanity. I imagine one can hear the "blues note' in the Scottish Bagpipes.
the blues is not merely a particular feeling, it's also a musical structure and its own style.
He was with missionaries...... Lolita Express vibes
The enslaved in the North gave us Pinkster, the first African American Festival in the U.S. African American Culture has Northern Roots which begin prior to the Great Migration and continues today.
You should test my cousin. She’s from Alabama. And she’s 100% genetically African DNA.
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Please acknowledge Hampton Ft Monroe as the first landing of enslaved people
Thank you for this illustrious tapestry of the culture. I'm curious to hear opinions on why there seems to be a backlash from continental Africans and immigrants alike that African Americans have no cultural contributions to American society.
You have to put one culture down,
To push another culture up.
It’s the self-righteous nature
of White Supremacy.
We are NOT all African Americans.
Yes we are!! Always one of you self haters on every Black video, go away!
@@Robi-kc3xg
It’s in order to help White folks…
Because we all look-a-like.
@@Robi-kc3xgWhat are we then?
How can a beat be good, and you not be able to dance to it? That don't make no ki-nah sense!
Also, there are 2 factions of so many…. French, Indian, Black etc…in America one of the biggest misunderstandings of this is those who came in with the revolutions and those who opposed those very revolutions and each one is significant.
The French revolution was against the original French connected to the crown who the revolutionist opposed and wanted annihilated. Differences in religion ways of life and people origins etc …the Haitian revolution is an interesting one as they understand Napoleon B. not to be a true frenchmen but a man from Corsica (Italian ancestry) but came under the name “The French”
Haitian culture knowing French history understood the usurping of that dude. And here comes the Haitian Revolution as standing for freedom and truth.
French and Indian Wars there were 2 different nations of Indians and French in these wars.
etc…
Seems we need to be more specific on who what when and how especially that there are more than one group within these conflicts and mostly they are opposite of one another in all things but yet have carried the same name in modern times mainly Black, Indian, White
Which tribe? What Land? What origin story?
This is def a complex topic and could be explain better but just a thought 💭…..
How when n were american culture is world culture ?
The top French and Italian designers admits,that they get ideas from black culture.
The European Family Lineage created RACE for Cultural and Generational Development
How do you Identify:
GEOGRAPHICALLY
CULTURALLY
GENETICALLY
#KaiCenat educate yourself
1:40 Very clever feed for the gullible!!!
We are Foundational Black Americans... not African American... I have never been to Africa.... and the Africans have never given us dual citizenship
Uumm some countries in Africa do offer dual citizenship..at 1 time Ethiopia even offered citizenship and land for blacks in the West..In 1948 Emperor Haile Selassie gave 500 acres (200 hectares) of land at Shashamene, 150 miles (225km) south of Addis Ababa, to black people from the West who had supported him in his struggles with Mussolini's Italy.The first settlers to arrive were African-American , but they soon moved on to Liberia or Israel. After them, in 1963, came a dozen Rastafarians, and the numbers swelled after Selassie made an emotional visit to Jamaica three years later.
@@OloRishaCreole504 was wrong, he only and strictly offered the Rastas a small settlement not for any Western black person.
Those who went to Liberia and Ghana never came to Ethiopia at all as they were making their way to Israel claiming to be Jewish but they were shocked to find out that Israel did not accept them then nor now. They don't have even permanent resident permits and are still in receipt of the USA's welfare.
Yeah! You keep believein’ that 😂😂😂😂
You might not have been to Africa but your ancestors came from the continent. I am proud to be African American. I am grateful to all of those brought here in chains and endured a great hardships so that their offsprings no matter where they were sold could someday have it better than they could ever imagine. I don’t know or care about foundational black American. I embrace this African bloodline. Without we wouldn’t be in America.
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DR GATES JR have you research and study the Bible about the true day of worship is the 7th Day Saturday. The Catholics are the ones who change the 7th Day Sabbath to Sunday and it was for one purpose that the flock will worship only the Pope.and forgive their sins.
Dane Calloway is better than Louis ….
Nope, exposed….
He can’t tell me who I am…
Running out and going to watch Dane Calloway and y’all should too….
My ancestors already told me…
Mann go have you beer.. boooooo
The guy who steals and reads from other peoples scholarly work?? Lol Dane that-a-waayyy lol
@OloRishaCreole504 These pretendians really out here delusional.
We got thousands of years of African history to be proud of smh
@@OloRishaCreole504 prove it… Still not with this so call African American 🤪🤪🤪
Dane Calloway is still my man..
Hey go have a beer 🍺 😜😜🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We are the children of Israel God's chosen people. We have been scattered around the world in every nation and put on the bottom because of the disobedience of our forefathers.
He's right the black church was the center of the black community.I agree 100% .
I never felt or claimed being American. I've seen myself as a New Orleanian or Afro Creole. We have a separate history from the rest of the continental U.S.A. Our culture, traditions and rituals are uniquely exhibited on a daily carried on from our ancestors. Our sequence of oppressors determined the resistance to assimilation. Even the Americans finally succumbed to the cultural ways of the Cresent City. I felt more at home in West Africa than what I thought I could. We fitted in real quick.
You're confused
@@greenpill7320 You're delusional.
@@barrypayton2832 so you're a confused liar as well. I didn't say anything for you to come to that conclusion. See how easy it is to expose a colonizer
@@barrypayton2832 yes, we've always been different from the rest of the U.S...only thing changed were European government ship
people from new orleans do not have a history that is separate from the rest of continental usa. that's ridiculous.
Many African Americans identify as Indigenous American mostly because of our grandmothers being native to this land, however, Mr. Gates says less than 2% of African Americans have Indian ancestry. This is not true. If he were to truly investigate this matter, he would see that the majority of us have Indigenous roots and not just white blood as falsely portrays on his tv show.
"If he were to truly investigate this matter". He has. You've allowed yourself to be bamboozled by youtubers.
I believe it's the other way around. You have been lied to by 30 pieces of silver sell out. @@taq1238
He gonna die with the lie and never bat an eye. 'Benjamin Franklin's Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind ' told us who colonists were. White is only a status, the majority of the colonists were brown skin like the indians, and were having babies with them, but by them being from europe and being protestant Christians they claimed whiteness (true Christians) to separate themselves from Catholics and they're converts because the Spanish was here first and they were all fighting each other. Johnson,Jackson, Peterson ,Brown,Smith, porter, white, black, aren't slave owners names. Corporations took over plantations after the civilwar. There's a book called Virginia's Colonial Soldiers and it describes the people skin color and their birthplace. So who really was the slaves? The lies been exposed but this what him and others signed up for and can't lose credibility.
@@taq1238are you not watching this on CZcams
Ok firstly it's about 2% here 😊 the rest is all over the world noo
Does physics have a culture?
Can physics care about culture?
Can humans escape from physics?
So any, so called, culture that cannot deal with physics is pretty stupid. Can you build a 1400 ft skyscraper without figuring out how to distribute the steel? Can you analyze the straight down collapse of a skyscraper without knowing the distribution of steel?
It is really funny that even the scientists and engineers at NASA have not asked about that. But skyscrapers are not rocket science though the Empire State Building was completed 38 years before the Moon landing.
The Twin Towers Affair should be more famous than The Galileo Affair. But that involved Christians too. LOL
If you are going to tell a lie, tell a Big Lie. What culture is that from?
Is there Black physics?
Are protons in Africa older than protons anywhere else?
Psikeyhack6914 i fount recall the peymid haveeing any steal n when did yhe american went to the moon like amstron confess he did not. How did they blast off the moon with out a launching pad. Likes how they leaved earth
When did they find out the moon was viod of Oxigent does the Prymids have any steel
@@aundreamellado6112
The pyramids have very little empty space. They are mostly rock piled on rock.
So mr gates? Which is the only dna types that doesnt contain Neanderthals and Denisovans dna? African. So why do keep saying its one both together? Your professional
We ain’t African
Take a DNA test and have several seats...our ancestors were African whether you like it or not. Deal with it!!
😂😂😂😂😂
He knows 😂 but he can't break character till they roll credits and his casket closing! He like Robert Downey Jr in tropic thunder, he the dude playing the dude but can't stop playing the dude because he thinks the cameras always rolling. They look like us but they not us realtalk!
I'm not sure why he's being so careful.? Truth is truth and a professional any hesitation glitch dishonor. It's clear that only the African type dna has no Neanderthals and Denisovans dna. He never mention that only to say we all have similar blood type. Not the best interview seeing Its 7day ago😢
Then what are we?