3 Mistakes Rhythm Guitarists Make with Cory Wong
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Modern funk master and host of Premier Guitar and Distrokidâs hit Wong Notes podcast, Cory Wong took time from his busy schedule to talk through three common mistakes many rhythm guitarists make and the ways to counter them. Check it out!
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How do you keep your rhythm playing funky fresh? đ„
I surgically removed tendons from my wrist to make it more loose and funky, and then learned mixolydian
Thankâs dude as a rythmical guitarist I appreciate a lot this video đđ€đŒđđŒ especially to me the second part, the accents stuff should help me drastically
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I had a hand injury in 1998 (long time ago), and if forced me to limit my voicings (sometimes to just two notes), and I had to pay attention to intervals more. It was actually a very freeing, albeit frustrating (then), process. Sometimes limitations create improvement. Corey Wong is such a genius. I appreciate his attention to rhythm. Also, his music is great for cheering you up if you feel down. Positive vibes.
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Ok I canât resist. Should have called this video âThe Wong way to play rhythm guitarâ
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The only problem with that is the Wong way is the right way, and that's just confusing đ
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Donât mock him! Itâs wong. Instead, talk about wight way to play.
He is gonna hurt that hand! Look how his fingers bend! Too fast yo
That first piece of advice about thinning out the chord to avoid getting punished by the FOH person is pure gold.
The Edge was explaining how it was key to his approach. Possibly he pioneered it? Someone more informed than me on guitar history could maybe tell.
Dude I used to do that in the eighties and shit loads more people for that matter.. why is this guy considered a genius?
I think it's great for song writing in general. Allow the note you play be heard.
I got this from watching and reading about R Blackmore. His rhythm playing is only a few notes. I didn't understand but started doing this a little at a time. This explanation hits the mark. And the other comment about this genius. It's the explanation that makes its sense to some of us. If you learned this early on bully for you. But why rip on this guy for teaching something not everyone knows.
@@cianciaway883 There's a wee bit more to his playing that this. This one aspect is really good advice, especially to those that haven't been playing 40 years and even some that have been playing that long that may have never played in a band for example.
So enlighten us to your awesome back catalog of records that showcase your awersomeness born from 40 years of playing tasty chops.
His right hand deserves a Physics and Math Nobel Prize. Good god. He looks like an awesome guy, too. So humble. So gifted. So down to earth..
My right handâs become suicidal
Totally, amazing!
Cory rocks.
His right hand is like a piece of flubber. A very precise piece though.
I'm a bassist. I've been trying to convey this message for years, decades. Harmonic information. Uh, I'm just gonna refer this video to my peeps. It's well said, with intelligence. You have done a great service. And so much more good I go here.
Good Luck, I have been gigging on Bass for over 25 years. So many guitarist think the world revolves around them.
Also as a bassist, I've also noticed that this and this alone are the things that determine whether the groove actually grooves or if it just stumbles along struggling to keep itself together...
@@tylerevans1700 So true
Hope you only have 4 strings on your bass so you don't delve into other instruments sonic territory !!
Right? This felt like BASS-ics, right hand accents CORE to bass groove, awareness of note spacing, and of course---listening!!
This is great. Awareness is probably the number one problem in amateur bands. Everyone just wants to be heard all the time instead of meshing and picking your spots.
Amen! Preach it bro.. âïž đ
Yeah 90 percent of the time less is more.
I think you mean "ego" is the number one problem - that's what makes everyone WANT to be heard ALL THE TIME.
Listen to me me me me me me me me me me me me me me
And a big reason why most people remain amateurs for their entire lives.
I'm a horn player, awareness is big-time important for us, too, whether it's the group is rock, jazz, wind ensemble, or full orchestra. I've watched enough videos of Cory and his band to know he practices what he preaches, the performances are awesome.
Cory has become such an icon in the past few years. He's like a Nile Rodgers for the CZcams generation. Also, these are some outstanding tips!
Regardless of your instrument, everything Cory just talked about applies:
âą The way individual instruments blend, and gel together in a band is CRITICAL! Get the mud out!
âą Playing in time is how a band sounds tight and professional, and every instrumentalist needs to be expert at it.
âą Lastly, players MUST listen as they play, and follow the band's dynamics as they happen. You're not robots.
I've played in some okay bands, and the best ones understood these points. The not so good ones-or the not so good players-couldn't do these things. I would add that the larger a band gets the harder it can be to keep this stuff under control, so the band leader has to be a VERY good leader, which Cory obviously is.
My best band experience was with a simple rock/funk 3 piece. Everyone had to pull their weight all the time, or else it fell apart. We got pretty tight because we had to be.
He is a phenomenal player and probably one of the best rhythm guitar players alive, but⊠He still has a long way before he can be compared to Nile Rodgers.
In technique? Sure, but Nile Rodgers didnât just left an impact on guitar, he left an undeniable impact on all contemporary music, which Cory still hasnât done quite yet. He might do in the future, but heâs not there yet. My opinion (since you mentioned heâs like the Nile Rodgers of CZcams).
@@dirgmario I see your point, but I think implicit in @The Last Boy Scout âs post is that CZcams is a new thing and therefore Cory is charting a new path in the footsteps of greats such as Niles
Even further to Tony Maiden ....đ
Well, Cory Wong is great đ
My favourite Rythm guitar player is Ry Cooder
Omg. Equating Corey Wong with the Hitmaker. 100m in record sales. Yep right.
Corey Wong at Sweetwater? Probably also filmed a demo for his new pedal with Jackson Audio. Can't wait for that video!
That's a fact. ;)
I saw Corey and his band at the Sultan Room a few months ago. I know this is a rhythm guitar lesson but really the ideas of âless is moreâ for note choices, consistent timing, and being musically aware of how you fit into an ensemble are the essential pillars for any successful musician who wants to play in a band.
I remember watching a Bootsy Collins video on how he forms a groove and it really is a âless is moreâ style. People think music is solely the notes being played but itâs the space in between that make the notes special. I think of guitarists like David Gilmour and Eric Clapton. Two guitarists that use space to great effect.
I find his band too busy TBH. Vulfpeck or FF I like more for this reason.
00:46 #1 Too many notes in voicing
03:13 #2 Right hand consistency and dynamics control
05:55 #3 Awareness
As a bar musician for 45 years, how I wish this could have been seen by so many of my bandmates.
I play most of the solos in a two guitar cover band but when me and the other guitarist are both playing rhythm parts, I listen carefully to what he's playing on any given song and usually craft voicings that will blend with it. I don't just automatically dig my heels in and demand that he conform to what I'm doing but try to blend into what he's voicing in his rhythm parts. That's the sharing and give and take you have to have in a band with two guitarists.
I play electric guitar in a contemporary Christian worship band that consists of drums, bass, acoustic guitar, two vocals, keys, and sometimes- synth. With that many instruments happening, I've personally found that sometimes laying out entirely until the bridge or chorus is what works best for some pieces and, more often than not, a volume swell note here and there is all that is needed for verses- and then I open up with partial chords or single note lines. Any solos when they happen are generally built around the vocal line and just emphasize it. Lots of triads- rarely full chords- and I regularly ride the guitar's tone knobs which are wonderful for creating dynamics. Biggest thing is LISTENING to see what ISN'T needed in a song . . .
I think about this a lot - what if the best thing to do for a section of a song* is to simply not play? i feel like brass instruments maybe have this more often, staying out until the chorus, but itâs something i rarely see considered on guitar or piano or something
*or even a whole song sometimes??
When NOT to play is the harder thing to master for any musician
that's mostly because Christian music focuses way too much on "ambience" sounds.
All good points. I'm not a musician, but the whole thing brings to mind something I heard a long time ago. "Play what serves the song the best".
The most amazing thing to me is how he doesnât smack the PUP selector when heâs going full tiltâŠthatâs my biggest issue with Strats.
Big problem for me too with my meaty mitts.
All in the flick of the wrist! No Pete Townshend windmills on a strat lol
@@michaelpiercey7316 but PT windmilled on a Strat!
There's a company that makes a switch lock. I put one on mine and it works well.
Honestly when I first got my strat I had that issue a lot (even worse was constantly turning my volume knob down) but eventually your hands just start to figure out where all that stuff is and naturally learn to avoid them
I played for decades as a rhythm guitarist in bands where often I was the only guitar. When we would bring in a lead guitarist, they would usually fight me when I would say I need to modify what I was playing to accommodate a 2nd guitar. Alone, I was filling the sound with the one guitar, with 2 guitars, each needs to thin out in order to compliment each other, not fight against each other. During parts of a song, vocals, etc., where there is not actual lead guitar or a solo, even the lead guitar is going to want to, or should want to be contributing. If I am ripping 1/8 & 1/16âs to âfill it upâ, anything other than a single strum may sound to full or muddy. Work together. Often less is more. A band is teamwork, not a constant âlook at meâ moment, although every member should be able to get the spotlight on occasion. Have fun and as always, enjoy!
Great Lesson from Cory. He seems like a good guy
he is the Optimist!
Great advice. I once was called in to session with a gospel choir where the dudes I played with had been playing together for years. And they used to start to shred their butts off for the heck of it.
I played less and less because the groove got so busy it was insane but I doubt they paid any attention to what I was doing on the guitar. Keep it phunky, Cory.
I wish more guitarists for like Cory. Everyone wants to be a CZcams shredder these days but no one wants to be a musician in a âteamâ of musicians.
Great tips. I've always tried to have awareness. I'm not the fastest or technically proficient, but I get lots of compliments on my ability to make a band sound better. Cory is awesome!
I played my first musical as a guitarist. All over the place i was playing 3 note chords on the highest 4 strings. Some weird voicings id never seen before. It was really eye opening.
I love experimenting with different voicing on the higher four strings.
The two note chord had a third note in it which was a harmonic that was ringing during the two notes.
I was just talking about Point #1 with a student last night - he plays in an originals band with another guitarist and keyboardist. Same issue, obviously - we discussed shell voicings on the three top strings, doing the Nile Rodgers kinda thing when things are sounding too âclutteredâ
Cory is such an artist and killer musician - bravo! đ
Those little triad inversions are fantastic
Iâll play a fun musical game with myself in those situations where the goal is to see how âsmallâI can make my part AND still keep the groove cooking. Imagine all sixteen âavailableâ beats in a sixteenth note groove and begin subtracting depending on what my musical colleagues are playing. Consider it the Zen of Lazy Parts. It works:) It also will make your band mates more self aware of how much sonic space theyâre occupying. Hopefully. :)
SRV is an ever-giving well of right hand dynamics and delivery techniques.
These are great tips! One rhythm tip I learned from listening to Keith Richards that I think may also be useful is keeping the rhythm dynamic-- you can write a rhythm part with a motif and slightly vary it as the song progresses to keep it engaging. I first noticed this with you cant alway's get what you want where Keith displaces the hammer on in the acoustic rhythm he's playing by a beat or 2 each time he plays it in the beginning
My 54 years of playing guitar (and bass) agrees with everything you said.
1:52 That compression.....
I'm more rooted in metal and guys like James Hetfield but one of the things I like about Cory is even in his funky accented rhythms is that he still gives the strings a good workout and hits the note hard when they need to be worked hard. If you need punch, hit it hard. Smack it. I see so many guitar players that don't do this.
That right hand wrist motion is inhuman. He just kinda flails it perfectly, it is incredible.
Itâs hard to replicate lol
I spent decades playing drums,mostly in funk bands. Cory nails it; listen and play with intention and purpose with your boys in the band,that's the gig.Go Cory,talking about the real deal.
Team first always wins
might be the best music lesson I've ever received. Cory Wong is the best
Cory is funky, and an awesome educator!
Cory is an excellent teacher. He definitely dispenses guitar wisdom. ' Sitting at his feet ' so to speak is time well spent
Solid advice. Really the top 3 for playing in a band. Even if you can only play 1 chord shape, but do these 3 things well, than you will valuable to a band.
Absolutely love Cory Wong! How to play like him⊠step one remove all bones in the wrist of your picking hand đ€Ł
Right?! His right hand is like rubber!
Great stuff! Very good reminders....Thanks!
Because of this video on rhythm guitar, specifically by Corey Wong, I am now subscribing to Sweetwater CZcams channel. Thank you so much among the top three rhythm guitar videos that I have seen thus far as a self taught guitarist that I aspire to be and am becoming thank you, thank you, thank you.
This was super helpful and helped my process of writing chord progressions
Excellent vlog thanks.......nice playing
Cory, great video! Everything you described, is one of the reason Nile Rodgers was one of the best rhythm guitarists EVER! He almost NEVER touched the low strings, played a lot of notes, nor played too far down OR up the fingerboard. You nailed it! đ
Sir you are a great communicator. Makes it easier to learn.
Excellent information. Thanks!
Good stuff. Over the years I kinda figured most of this out on my own, but it's great to hear it articulated so well.
This advice is all gold and goes for any rhythm instrument!
Wow! Thank you!
Amazing control.
If one creates multi tracked songs and play all the instruments themselves , they realize instantly the issue with â to many notesâ . Great info.
So cool to hear these tips. So unique to see the art of rhythm playing. I had no idea.
Mind-boggling rhythm chops. Love it
That was wonderfully informative, thanks!
Excellent lesson. Thanx!!!!!!!
Super helpful. Thanks
Reassuring and encouraging to know I am not the only one making these mistakes! Many thanks
As well as for the technical reasons you gave, I also think awareness and listening is important for finding your place in the vibe.
Great lesson...valuable tips...
Great lesson thanks
This is basic, but essential, info. Gotta have all of this in your bag. Thanks for posting.
great info thankyou!!!!!!!!
Great info. Thanks.
This is gold! Thank you!
This is great advice for literally any musician on any instrument.
Excellent communicator and teacher!
Great stuff Maestro! Absolutely love the work you did with Dave Koz and Iâm even more nuts over the stuff you did with Dirty Loops! Just phenomenal.
Great lesson, thanks!
One of the most down to earth, simply just being a great human. Gosh, what a guy.
This Amp sounds AMAZING!!! Love it
One of the best musical lessons for any comping playerâŒïž
That is a great lesson ! cheers
Excellent teaching, sir!
Great tips. Thanks.
Tge collab i didn't know I needed.
So glad I watched this. Every thing said was spot on with issues in my playing. The attack mechanics are great. I have been practicing Bohannon riffs to help.
Thanks for this.this helps ...tottaly
This advice is fantastic. Thanks, Cory!
Excellent teaching!
This was brilliant. Thank you.
Great lesson. Cory has some sick rhythm chops.
A fantastic guy. Truly into the rhythm
Nicely put!
Wow there's actually some really useful tips in here, I wasn't expecting that. I expected to hear the same things you find in 9 out of every 10 videos. The one about using simpler chord voicings is a really good thing to know.
Great stuff!! Thanks
thank you for this informative video
Excellent advices thank you Cory!
Just the best advice! I've been screaming about this for years!
Bravo Cory đ
Highly informative! And your technique is really awesome too!đ
Fantastic musician and excellent insights here.
Great tips and thanks. I've switched from a solo acoustic guitarist fronting my own soul funk band playing electric so this is great information.
What a fekkin' great lesson!!! superb playing as well!!!
This is great video, especially if youâre at that intermediate level of guitar play. Good advice, its worth the time watching.
Thank you Cory and Sweetwater!
Bless its great advice
Awesome video with some great advice.
Excellent presentation. Iâm not a rhythm guitar but your principles in this video are universal, I think. Great contribution.
Such an exceptional player and a really wonderful teacher too! Super knowledgeable and insightful cat, and boy what a right handđ„”
This guyâs playing is flawless
WOW! Love your playing.
BrilliantâŠbest rhythm guitar info ever!
Absolutely crucial information!
It's amazing these tips are so great and how much those tips even apply to bass guitar
Fantastic video!!!!!!!!!
Smart guy, good communicator, great player...very nice to see great young guys like him coming up.
Three excellent pieces of advice. đ
Really dig those mic-stand lamps.