Pedal vs REAL Dumble Amp
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
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Dumble amplifiers are some of the most expensive and rare, custom-made amplifiers to exist - costing upwards of $200,000 (or more). Despite each Dumble being essentially a custom-made suit for the player it was made for, with no two sounding the same, there are certain "X Factors" of these amps the differentiate them from everything else. The Ultraphonix MKII is our attempt at capturing the essence of our experience with over a dozen Dumble Overdrive Special amplifier distilled into a guitar pedal. But, does it ACTUALLY sound like the real thing? Today, we're doing a direct comparison between our Ultraphonix Overdrive and two real-deal Dumble Overdrive Special amplifiers.
Does the Ultraphonix hold up? Let us know what you hear in the comments below!
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I run this pedal into a UAFX Dream 65 Amp pedal. Sonic delight! 😎🎸
Rock on!
Tons of clarity with the ultraphonix. Yeah, tough to compete with or beat a high-end tube amp, but ultimately, the point is to capture the essence, as we cannot always bring a large rig with us.
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Hi Mason, I’ve listen to several of these videos. And they must first say I appreciate your channel and I have enjoyed watching your interviews wiith Dann Huff, Michael Thompson, Dean Parks and several of the other session guitar players. Years ago I worked at Andy Brauer‘s and we did Cartrige for several of the musicians you’ve interviewed so I would run into them and sometimes be able to watch them on sessions. Having said all this, my boss, Andy, as well as Greg Bayles had more than a few Dumble amplifiers on hand. One of which I went all the way down to Newport Beach with a handful of cash from my boss to pick up and buy for him. Spent quite a bit of time playing through the amplifier. I have to just respectfully and honestly say that those Dumbels were magic. I honestly thought at that time if I owned one of these amplifiers, I would probably change my style more in the direction of the players you have mentioned. But again respectfully, I’m not hearing the same tone out of the amplifier is that you have there. I’d be willing to bet that they are great but I’m just wondering if it’s the way it’s dialed in. I think you were doing great work over there and I’m not meaning to sound offensive but that is just my honest assessment.
Thx Mason . I’ll have been playing around with guitars for fifty years now since I was about nine years old. There are so many different choices now . I appreciate you and your work and teaching. Much appreciated with love and respect.
Cool
maybe using the same cab for everything would make them similar.
Hi Mason, love your pedals just wanted to request a possible pairing up this with the SSS SRV to see what magic tones can be achieved together please. Keep up the fantastic work!
It sounds great❤.
I wish someone / you, anyone would make the same thing in a preamp with an IR and power amp maybe to use direct or to go to a power amp and cab.
I love the tone and sustain he was getting out of the pedal too!
It's pretty damn close. I don't know how you could get any closer. Now I'm going to have to check it out. Very cool.
Thanks so much. Great channel. ❤
Sounds very faithful to the real amp.
I instantly liked the Dumble sound when I came across a Mxr Shin Juku.
Ad a tubescreamer in front of it and you got SRV vibes
Thanks for watching!
Very cool..as I have stated many times in the past.."I have this pedal and it kick's ass" I do have the deluxe with the jensen's it gives me that nice electric sparkle add the vertex and the sonic range is killa..,.when i want more bite i run a EHX ripped speaker or the JHS pack rat on the first setting into the Vertex for a couple different flavours.I too use the carbon copy on barely but it too colours things nicely ..I have many reverbs but the holy grail for normal reverbs ...
Heck yea!
Mason, I'd love to see this pedal and the SSS direct in line with an impulse response. Is there a video where you did this? If not, it would be a great idea.
Check out the David Ryan Harris video in the Ultraphonix playlist, I think that's what he was doing there and talks about it in the video.
I use the Ultraphonix a lot. To me, the sound is there, meaning I get exactly try what I want for me. BUT, you must say something about how your pedal(s) feel. That's where the real magic lies. Yes this pedal is sonically amazing and very broad spectrum-wise but again, it has a feel that is inspiring to me.
Well said!
The pedal sounds great, but it sounds like a drive with the guitar tone pot rolled down. Dumble amps do that weird thing where they are dark but still have bite.
Interesting. I feel like the pedal sounds a bit more clear than the amps, especially 195 comparatively is much darker and rounder on the low-end.
So...the Ultraphonix sounds nothing like an Overdrive Special. That is what this is supposed to be showing, I presume. The ODS examples do show why Hermida modified a Tubescreamer to make the Zendrive though.
I disagree, as someone that's been around these amps a lot and got to understand their sonic qualities, gain structure, and feel - as I said in the video - the relationship that a good Marshall In-A-Box has to a Marshall, the Ultraphonix has to a Dumble. We fully acknowledge, and do so in the video, that no pedal can replace an amp. I think you could hear that the differences between the two Dumble's weren't understated. Again, Dumbles are like a custom made suit, there are common elements in all of them based on the designer, but the identiy of each amp is unique. In our pedal, we're trying to normalize a baseline across this type of overdrive sound. As it relates to the Zendrive, it's a cool pedal, iconic even, but was never designed with a real Dumble as a reference - just the idea of a Dumble. At the time it was made, my recollection was that Alf voiced it based on what he heard on a Robben Ford record. Ironically, the Dumble that Robben used on his biggest records was rented, not the Dumble amps he would eventually own. So even if Alf had access to Robben's personal Dumble's at the time of inception of the Zendrive (for a reference point), they'd still be dissimilar to what's his most famous songs and records that use Dumble amps. Even Robben doesn't see a Zendrive as an alternative to a Dumble, just as a great sounding overdrive that works well into a Dumble and a variety of clean amp pedal platforms.
Definitely some differences in the gain structure, but most of the differences I’m hearing are coming from the differences in the speakers.
Speakers, yes, we've been trying to record them all the same way, albeit, one was recorded with an SM7B and AEA Ribbon, where the others were with an Ohma Ribbon and SM57 - but the "stickiness" of the notes are there, again I think it shows how different, even within the same model, any two ODS' might sound from each other, no even considering the pedal.
That is really close to my ear. With a little bit of EQ the sound would be exact. And Gabe is sounding particularly great!
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@@VertexEffectsInc BTW, I own an Ultra Phonix and several other of your pedals, which are fantastic!!! Also, your video posts are not only entertaining, but super informative. Thank you.
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Oh yeah!!! This is going to be a Fun episode…
Enjoy!
Sounds killer.
Your pedal sounds better than the real deal in this demo! Nice airy top end and very full mids with perfect low end balance!
Wow. thanks! I think the amps still sound best, but I really love how the pedal came out!
@@VertexEffectsInc sounded so good, I think I’m gonna grab one! 😉🎶
Mason, time for the Marshall pedal, please! Cheers
Impressive. Competitors want much more $ for their efforts that don't come close. THANX for the heads up!!!!
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I don't care much either way about Dumble amps but I sure love my Ultraphonics pedal and yes I've played though a real Dumble.
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Pedals more compressed, less articulate, really sounds like comparing apples and oranges.
I didn't think that was the case here, I feel like the amps felt more squishy to my ear. I think it's hard to demonstrate a "feel" of something through video, but I would say even the two Dumble amps have a pretty different sound even though they are the same model (ODS). I think in the sustained note, you can hear that same second (even) harmonics coming through a lot even with it's not real dirty.
I am amazed that you still get any credit after the numerous scam you gave your customer.
I'll take Dumble 22 please.
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It sounds like the difference is tubes and eq
I think the gain structure on one of the amps was different. More aggressive. I think the pedal was closer to ODS #022. Also speakers have a lot to do with it. One Dumble had an EV, the other had Jensens, and the Deluxe Reverb had a V30. We did use the same mics on two of the examples, but one had an AEA Ribbon and SM7B instead of the Omha Ribbon and SM57. Those also have some differences. However, the idea here is 'essence of' so to speak.
@@VertexEffectsInc were you using the cabin+
@@broughttofruition7377 not sure what that is. Signal path is all laid out in the first minute of the video.
@@VertexEffectsInc two notes cabm+
@@broughttofruition7377 see signal path in the video, it's all tube amps and pedals.
This is an older pedal, yes?
It’s been out maybe 2 years or so.
Not a Zendrive clone )
It has similarities, just as a Zendrive has origins in the Tube Screamer, so does this pedal. If you're reductive enough you can point to origins in just about every currently made pedal to something else that was done before. There are no original analog overdrive circuits at this point in the world of pedals as there are only so many ways to create distortion.
So awesome!! You got to make your own take of a blackface amp in a box🙏🏻
So that's what a Dumble is?
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I think you meant to say "You've* got to...". Hence the confusion. Mason thought you meant to reference this video, but you were just saying you'd like him to make a black panel amp in a box at some point.
@@NiksGuitarThings oh!😅 yes! Thanks you are so right… Sorry vertex
@@eliaslopez4224 I feel like there are already so many great ones, the Wampler is great, the Lovepedal one also. And, if you want to go digital, the UA Dream is a good option.
Not bad. Needs more treble and less gain on the pedal.
I like the pedal better honestly
Lol nah
All decent sounds! But the amps sound like amps.
Does Mason actually even play? Or just uhh, what…… talk about pedals
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The 195 sounds like pooopy to the others
It was the most "immediate" it was really designed around a Telecaster so in this example, we're not exactly using the ideal guitar for its voicing. It's still a great amp, but maybe not as tuned for humbuckers as some of the others.