It was worse. The mangaka came out and said outright every time L brought up a percentage in the story every single time he lied about it. He was actually 90% sure Light was Kira.
Rem would probably kill everybody trying to go after Misa as long as it wouldn't affect when she dies, and if she does get caught despite that, I think Rem either takes her book and leaves or the authorities now have a death note and Light now has to figure out how to retrieve it from the police station
@@zombie5176 Oh my god you're right. I'm so used to Rem just being used as a plot device to kill L more than anything that I forgot she can actually do things!
@@vongeneralissimo8635 Misa's dumb as shit but I think as long as she can kill L before being caught she could just give her book to Rem and lose the memories, and yeah Light wouldn't have access to the eyes for a while after that but it shouldn't massively impede him, as I can't think of any time he needed the eyes aside from N
@@zombie5176 Misa won't be killing L or collaborating with Light. . . because she risks already be stuck being in FBI's custody BEFORE contacting Light.
Light made a huge mistake by killing Raye Penber. Penber had already concluded that Light wasn't Kira, and he probably reported this to his superiors. His dying right after he was tailing a suspect is highly suspicious, and I believe one of the main reasons L suspected that Light was Kira. If he had allowed Penber to live, it would have cast some doubt on Light's guilt.
I have three thoughts on this, regarding other effects you might not have considered: First: Raye Penber's death, and having him kill other important members of the task force, was the first innocent blood Light spilled. If he managed to avoid doing that, it could have had some massive butterfly effects not only on the investigation, but also on Light's own actions, as up to that point, everyone he'd killed had been a criminal. It's possible that this fact could have been used to throw the task force off, maybe by BSing through his kills that he can only kill the "wicked" or "sinful." This could be done the same way he sent earlier messages: by having his victims write them in blood before they die. Second: Misa's tapes had tons of fingerprints on them, and the international investigation would have no reason to believe that she isn't the original Kira. It's also very possible that this could lead to her being a fugitive on the run, and she might not meet Light. With a clear suspect being pursued, Light would likely be flying under the radar unless they manage to catch Misa, at which point the outcome depends: Does Misa tell the task force that Kira avenged her parents' deaths? If she does, the task force learns there's another Kira. If she doesn't say this though, then the task force would believe that they'd successfully caught Kira, and unless Light made himself obvious again, the task force could end up dissolved due to it being considered a success. In that second possibility, as long as Light keeps his kills subtle and infrequent enough, he could go years without people realizing the mistake. Third: It's unlikely Light would be seriously looked at as a suspect by L in the first place in this scenario, because part of the reason Light drew attention in the first place was because of him using his father's access to information on the case, and changing his pattern when he realized they suspected he was a student, instantly giving himself away as having a connection to the task force through utilizing their information. In this scenario, with a far bigger task force, there would be too many possible moles for L to be able to bug all of them, and Light would still likely have access to their files to some extent. There are ways L could play around this, like giving some parts of the task force false information and seeing if Kira acts on it, but outside of that scenario, Light would be largely in the clear. This also means that light can keep the portable TV in his chip bag, and hide it similarly to how he hid the Death Note itself, giving him a way to go about his business as Kira when he _clearly_ has no TV or means to find the names of the future victims in his room when he's studying. Furthermore, without L's involvement, Light would probably be more focused on his education that the far less immediate cat and mouse game, which would probably help sell his alibi of being a hard working student. As long as Light keeps the existing schedule of kills for the next couple years, and doesn't change the times he kills at, he should be in the clear as far as suspicion is concerned, and he could potentially get away with it, and could possibly lead the task force on goose chases for years. Light might get caught eventually, his biggest sin is pride, you could say, and he's often left details he didn't realize because his pride wouldn't acknowledge that he could be caught in the first place.
L noticed the strong diffrence in MO between the 2 Kira’s and he’d have recognized there was a second Kira not to mention misa left a tone of evidence and he’d have chased that down. As another commenter said L could have willed down the Kelly solely by feeding some of the people certain case info and others other info and al,so making names of highly classified criminals on,y available to some families and so on it would have been much much slower but he’s the king of the long game and the multi layer traps
Raye penber would have remembered that it's light's voice .But Light know that raye penber heard his voice and he is not an idiot.So without taking risk he killed raye penber.Even if he remembered that light's voice then also he couldn't have done nothing bcoz he is in light's hands.So there was no escape from that.Light was truly very intelligent.
L challenging Light with the Lind L Taylor stunt embarrassed and bruised his god complex so much that he was driven to kill L more than he was driven to not get caught but also he just wasn’t worried that he could ever get caught anyway cause they would need the death note to convict him and he had it in that thing rigged to burn up so Light had absolutely no reason to not do what he did. Light wanted to kill L and win their game. That is his main motive behind his decisions. He was leading L to him like a trail of breadcrumbs. Also Light only lost to Near and Mellow combined because Mikami disobeyed an order of his thinking it was necessary. I see that as Lights karma or his good luck like he experienced in episode 7 running into Naomi Misara at just the right time and her trusting him, running out.
Welp now you see: L knows that Kira does his shit in that city, he knows that second Kira had parents killed BUT then killer killed by first Kira. And then one fucking son of a cop starts dating supermodel with same fucking backstory? Wow what a fucking coincedense. Kid that sees hes father figure cathing crime is a Kira. And there it is: second Kira comes. Of course that's just some highschooler that dates supermodel.
while the point of the video is great, there's a third option Kira could had used. use the DN to control Raye for a few days so Raye dies after he has informed that Light is free of suspicion and began to tail somebody else. also, for the love of god, why kill Raye with a heart attack? any other cause would be fine and confuse L. of course, Raye's girlfriend would, maybe, take a look and find that Kira can use other methods to kill but I'm quite sure she would end the same way as in the canon or just ignored.
That's impossible because light had every control over the events that happened before Raye's death. Even if Raye wanted to, he could not have done that
Very good point. As calculated as Light was, he did make a lot of emotional decisions and this was one of them. Light killed Raye only to force L’s hand into having to reveal himself to the task force because Light wanted to kill L and needed to get closer to him, or more directly his identity. Light’s ego got in the way a lot. Naomi Misora would have never approached L had Raye lived because her and Raye were getting married and Raye was dissuading her from any type of investigative work and just wanted her to be a housewife. After Naomi “goes missing” L only becomes more suspicious that Naomi may have run into Kira because it wasn’t in her character to commit suicide over Raye’s death, which is what most people were thinking.
Interesting to find this 4 years later but I’d like to point out that the reason L refers to Kira as a “He” even when the suspect lost varies so wildly is because of the fact that something on order of 90% of murders are committed by men. So statistically Kira is male, until proven otherwise.
Light couldn't have the fbi agent email him even if he wanted to. You can't use the death note to imprint information or have someone guess something that they couldn't already figure out. That fbi agent would already need to know Light's info for that to even be possible.
The big problem on this scenario is that Misa is gonna get caught. There are full FBI agents and the task force running around, of course she gets caught.
Because Light is a narcissistic control freak who was becoming paranoid with the police following him. Light had no idea Pember didn't suspect anything, but the mere fact he was following Light meant Light couldn't let him or anyone connected to him live.
@@kentuckyfriedchildren5385 You think the FBI agents would’ve just went away after the initial investigation? No, they probably would’ve done what L did and either A bide their time hoping Kira makes another slip up or B they would’ve reexamined the initial list of suspects light was part of. Perhaps a different agent wouldn’t have been as charitable to him as ray specifically who saw light as just a young teen trying to do good. It’s possible one of them could’ve thought light was hiding something and pressed further
@@Doc51499 that's not how investigations go down usually, agents don't have time to check suspects that have already been cleared, it's redundant, especially for close surveillance like what ray did
Lol the video just makes a wild assumptiom that he would go on TV solely on the fact that he believes Kira can kill needing a name, not just a face. It also completely ignores the fact that Misa didn't knew L or Light and she did the video tapes. We can assume she would have done the same thing, thus killing police officers that would try to enter sakuratv. Then L would know there was a second Kira killing apparently just with a face. His assumption completely ignores that and relies on L becoming careless
The FBI aren't angels either so Raye Penber's death really didn't phase me that much But Naomi Misora's death on the other hand, despite her being a former FED, absolutely made me hate Light The way he manipulated her trust for Light and her love for her dead fiancée was very hard to stomach The way he taunted Naomi after the Death Note took control of her fate was also disgusting It was at that point that made it clear for me that Light never cared about Justice, he was simply killing to challenge himself, to boost his ego, to cover his own tracks, but most importantly, for the fun of it
It was worse. The mangaka came out and said outright every time L brought up a percentage in the story every single time he lied about it. He was actually 90% sure Light was Kira.
His suspicions would drop a lot tho
@@djmewtwo6981 It never actually did at any point that Light had Death Note access and was Kira.
I think L was listing the percentage in his mind that he was wrong about Light, but said it was how likely he was right.
@@fireblast133 No. The mangaka said he was just lying to people.
@@xdfeverdream8122 it's my own headcanon, personally.
There’s one problem with this: Ryuk would get bored with Light essentially being unchallenged.
True, but wasn't Light essentially unchallenged during the years-long time skip in the actual story anyways?
@@Mister_Mattyeah, that was just BS.
In the musical Ryuk writes Light's name after L d1es realizing there would be no challange thus no fun
@@Leonard_Wolf_2056 cool musical isnt canon and is just wrong
@@Leonard_Wolf_2056That's also not very cathartic as well.
I didn’t like the second half of Death Note, but that would’ve been worse
Scenario has overlooked something. . . Misa would be caught! Sending a video left enough circumstantial evidence for authorities to identify her.
Rem would probably kill everybody trying to go after Misa as long as it wouldn't affect when she dies, and if she does get caught despite that, I think Rem either takes her book and leaves or the authorities now have a death note and Light now has to figure out how to retrieve it from the police station
@@zombie5176 Real issue would be adding FBI resources to investigating Misa. Contrast with already impressive results with a much smaller team.
@@zombie5176 Oh my god you're right. I'm so used to Rem just being used as a plot device to kill L more than anything that I forgot she can actually do things!
@@vongeneralissimo8635 Misa's dumb as shit but I think as long as she can kill L before being caught she could just give her book to Rem and lose the memories, and yeah Light wouldn't have access to the eyes for a while after that but it shouldn't massively impede him, as I can't think of any time he needed the eyes aside from N
@@zombie5176 Misa won't be killing L or collaborating with Light. . . because she risks already be stuck being in FBI's custody BEFORE contacting Light.
Light made a huge mistake by killing Raye Penber. Penber had already concluded that Light wasn't Kira, and he probably reported this to his superiors. His dying right after he was tailing a suspect is highly suspicious, and I believe one of the main reasons L suspected that Light was Kira. If he had allowed Penber to live, it would have cast some doubt on Light's guilt.
“Farewell Ray Penber.”
A creepy but memorable moment.
I have three thoughts on this, regarding other effects you might not have considered:
First: Raye Penber's death, and having him kill other important members of the task force, was the first innocent blood Light spilled. If he managed to avoid doing that, it could have had some massive butterfly effects not only on the investigation, but also on Light's own actions, as up to that point, everyone he'd killed had been a criminal. It's possible that this fact could have been used to throw the task force off, maybe by BSing through his kills that he can only kill the "wicked" or "sinful." This could be done the same way he sent earlier messages: by having his victims write them in blood before they die.
Second: Misa's tapes had tons of fingerprints on them, and the international investigation would have no reason to believe that she isn't the original Kira. It's also very possible that this could lead to her being a fugitive on the run, and she might not meet Light. With a clear suspect being pursued, Light would likely be flying under the radar unless they manage to catch Misa, at which point the outcome depends: Does Misa tell the task force that Kira avenged her parents' deaths? If she does, the task force learns there's another Kira. If she doesn't say this though, then the task force would believe that they'd successfully caught Kira, and unless Light made himself obvious again, the task force could end up dissolved due to it being considered a success. In that second possibility, as long as Light keeps his kills subtle and infrequent enough, he could go years without people realizing the mistake.
Third: It's unlikely Light would be seriously looked at as a suspect by L in the first place in this scenario, because part of the reason Light drew attention in the first place was because of him using his father's access to information on the case, and changing his pattern when he realized they suspected he was a student, instantly giving himself away as having a connection to the task force through utilizing their information. In this scenario, with a far bigger task force, there would be too many possible moles for L to be able to bug all of them, and Light would still likely have access to their files to some extent. There are ways L could play around this, like giving some parts of the task force false information and seeing if Kira acts on it, but outside of that scenario, Light would be largely in the clear. This also means that light can keep the portable TV in his chip bag, and hide it similarly to how he hid the Death Note itself, giving him a way to go about his business as Kira when he _clearly_ has no TV or means to find the names of the future victims in his room when he's studying. Furthermore, without L's involvement, Light would probably be more focused on his education that the far less immediate cat and mouse game, which would probably help sell his alibi of being a hard working student. As long as Light keeps the existing schedule of kills for the next couple years, and doesn't change the times he kills at, he should be in the clear as far as suspicion is concerned, and he could potentially get away with it, and could possibly lead the task force on goose chases for years. Light might get caught eventually, his biggest sin is pride, you could say, and he's often left details he didn't realize because his pride wouldn't acknowledge that he could be caught in the first place.
"Hey everyone me here today"
Why did I find this so funny
L noticed the strong diffrence in MO between the 2 Kira’s and he’d have recognized there was a second Kira not to mention misa left a tone of evidence and he’d have chased that down. As another commenter said L could have willed down the Kelly solely by feeding some of the people certain case info and others other info and al,so making names of highly classified criminals on,y available to some families and so on it would have been much much slower but he’s the king of the long game and the multi layer traps
This video is so underrated. You're very good at this!
I know right
How does this not have more views. This was an awesome video. I just started watching the dub and my interest has been reinvigorated.
Saying Misa can take down L without being caught before or after is just giving her too much credit.
she has the tools, not necessarily the smarts
literally why is your channel so damn underrated
I’m shocked hat this video hasn’t even been watched by many, it was great
Raye penber would have remembered that it's light's voice .But Light know that raye penber heard his voice and he is not an idiot.So without taking risk he killed raye penber.Even if he remembered that light's voice then also he couldn't have done nothing bcoz he is in light's hands.So there was no escape from that.Light was truly very intelligent.
If light had never killed penbar it would’ve been smooooth sailing
And Lind L Taylor.
@@lakshaykochhar6799 Yeah. Lind L. Taylor was the big one. Had he just waited or not killed him at all, Light would’ve been impossible to find.
L challenging Light with the Lind L Taylor stunt embarrassed and bruised his god complex so much that he was driven to kill L more than he was driven to not get caught but also he just wasn’t worried that he could ever get caught anyway cause they would need the death note to convict him and he had it in that thing rigged to burn up so Light had absolutely no reason to not do what he did. Light wanted to kill L and win their game. That is his main motive behind his decisions. He was leading L to him like a trail of breadcrumbs. Also Light only lost to Near and Mellow combined because Mikami disobeyed an order of his thinking it was necessary. I see that as Lights karma or his good luck like he experienced in episode 7 running into Naomi Misara at just the right time and her trusting him, running out.
And Rem did say deathnote users tend to experience misfortune. Light’s luck ran out.
Welp now you see: L knows that Kira does his shit in that city, he knows that second Kira had parents killed BUT then killer killed by first Kira. And then one fucking son of a cop starts dating supermodel with same fucking backstory? Wow what a fucking coincedense. Kid that sees hes father figure cathing crime is a Kira. And there it is: second Kira comes. Of course that's just some highschooler that dates supermodel.
while the point of the video is great,
there's a third option Kira could had used.
use the DN to control Raye for a few days so Raye dies after he has informed that Light is free of suspicion and began to tail somebody else. also, for the love of god, why kill Raye with a heart attack? any other cause would be fine and confuse L.
of course, Raye's girlfriend would, maybe, take a look and find that Kira can use other methods to kill but I'm quite sure she would end the same way as in the canon or just ignored.
i feel like they couldve won right there with a hidden mic bc raye saw light last second he couldve spoken that its light to the police
This is a fair point. I think in 2021 it’s way more likely. Deathnote came out in 06 tho so the technology wasn’t wide spread or cheap at the time
That's impossible because light had every control over the events that happened before Raye's death. Even if Raye wanted to, he could not have done that
yeah, i agree.
light got overly paranoid, when in actuality his acting skills were successful and no further action was needed.
Very good point. As calculated as Light was, he did make a lot of emotional decisions and this was one of them.
Light killed Raye only to force L’s hand into having to reveal himself to the task force because Light wanted to kill L and needed to get closer to him, or more directly his identity.
Light’s ego got in the way a lot. Naomi Misora would have never approached L had Raye lived because her and Raye were getting married and Raye was dissuading her from any type of investigative work and just wanted her to be a housewife. After Naomi “goes missing” L only becomes more suspicious that Naomi may have run into Kira because it wasn’t in her character to commit suicide over Raye’s death, which is what most people were thinking.
Interesting to find this 4 years later but I’d like to point out that the reason L refers to Kira as a “He” even when the suspect lost varies so wildly is because of the fact that something on order of 90% of murders are committed by men. So statistically Kira is male, until proven otherwise.
Light couldn't have the fbi agent email him even if he wanted to. You can't use the death note to imprint information or have someone guess something that they couldn't already figure out. That fbi agent would already need to know Light's info for that to even be possible.
The big problem on this scenario is that Misa is gonna get caught. There are full FBI agents and the task force running around, of course she gets caught.
Something I didn't understand is how Ray knew the face of his superior and if he didn't Lights plan would have failed
Interesting what if video light not killing Ray best choice
Thanks
@@flightyagami5990 your welcome
I love the video
Been a while since I watched death note, but if I remember correctly Penber never suspected Light, why did he have to be killed?
Because Light is a narcissistic control freak who was becoming paranoid with the police following him. Light had no idea Pember didn't suspect anything, but the mere fact he was following Light meant Light couldn't let him or anyone connected to him live.
Because he’s the one who was investigating light. Wouldn’t it be weird if the one guy who thought light was innocent was the one guy who didn’t die?
@@Doc51499 i meant that he didn't have to kill any of the fbi agents
@@kentuckyfriedchildren5385
You think the FBI agents would’ve just went away after the initial investigation? No, they probably would’ve done what L did and either A bide their time hoping Kira makes another slip up or B they would’ve reexamined the initial list of suspects light was part of. Perhaps a different agent wouldn’t have been as charitable to him as ray specifically who saw light as just a young teen trying to do good. It’s possible one of them could’ve thought light was hiding something and pressed further
@@Doc51499 that's not how investigations go down usually, agents don't have time to check suspects that have already been cleared, it's redundant, especially for close surveillance like what ray did
I doubt L would die. Wouldn't he just make someone else take his place again?
No he was willing to die to save other before he would again, I just think he’d find away around it before he had to go on the broadcast
Lol the video just makes a wild assumptiom that he would go on TV solely on the fact that he believes Kira can kill needing a name, not just a face. It also completely ignores the fact that Misa didn't knew L or Light and she did the video tapes. We can assume she would have done the same thing, thus killing police officers that would try to enter sakuratv. Then L would know there was a second Kira killing apparently just with a face. His assumption completely ignores that and relies on L becoming careless
7:14 L would never do that. He would wear a mask
Interesting theory!
Thank you
This was the moment I stopped liking light honestly.
The FBI aren't angels either so Raye Penber's death really didn't phase me that much
But Naomi Misora's death on the other hand, despite her being a former FED, absolutely made me hate Light
The way he manipulated her trust for Light and her love for her dead fiancée was very hard to stomach
The way he taunted Naomi after the Death Note took control of her fate was also disgusting
It was at that point that made it clear for me that Light never cared about Justice, he was simply killing to challenge himself, to boost his ego, to cover his own tracks, but most importantly, for the fun of it
U r cool
So r you
When are you making a new video
one already in the works should be releasing in the near future. Def gonna be releasing more frequently. Probably biweekly