The Most Expensive Consumer Mainboard? Over 2000€ For A Z590 Board.....
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This product was designed for one reason: Sort by price - high to low
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LOL! Nice point 😆😆
@@forhadrh right
It makes no sense because it'll be obsolete in 1-2 years with how fast processor generations are released/technology moves.
wow
Glad to see you say " I can't endorse this product based upon it's absurd pricing, but i will not condemn you if you choose to purchase" that right there is integrity.
Its obvious.
Everybody like to have high end pc parts like me but the price is just to much!! Compare last 2 generation z390 and z490 is the double of the price just because 1 inch screen temperature and $5 usb c adapter unnn” not way” I’m pretty sure I go for extreme z590 without monoblock”
It's a good thing it's 2000 euro, cuz otherwise I wouldn't want it.
That right there is how Person A who knows how human egos work exploits Person B' ignorance and self-involvedness. A cat doesnt give a fuck if her water bowl costs 5 cents or 50000; for the cat it is just where water is... but the human can classify objects by non-existent parameters, that why idealism (religions, pr, advertising, design etc) exists.
im buying this soon for a showpiece it costs about 300$ with hugeeeeee discount because no one buys it
14:31 “me personally I would not spend above 800-900 euro on a board”
Me: looks in glory to my $145 motherboard.
le 10.99 eBay OEM motherboard, complete with janky adapters, and a heatsinked bolted down because idk where to find a backplate!
In few years 11900k and this motherboard are going to be just as shitty as my z490-p prime with 10900f.
@@BITCOIlN and you probably get as much out of it for a fraction of the price.. My Z97 rog hero cost £160 and the z590 version costs £450…
hey thats exactly how much my board cost me! (ASRock X470 Master SLi/AC brand new)
@@BITCOIlN They already are shittier. The 10900f is a 10 core chip buddy
I put the 'like' just for the introduction
'Ok'
Cool intro ORGAN attachecase
I just randomly googled what “ Aorus “ means & the top result said, “ According to a user from Germany, the name Aorus is of Latin origin and means “ made of gold “”. Looks like the price tag is pretty matching after all 😂😂
Gold elemental aberration is Au.
3 CPU generation later: Goodbye my left kidney, may you be reunited with your other half somewhere.
14:40 technically most monoblocks actually perform worse than traditional cpu blocks what only cool the cpu. And with the vrm the board has it probably doesn't even need a heatsink, let alone watercooling. This board exists to look fancy, and honestly i dig it
maybe they hide the front panel audio pins expecting you to use the included external dac as a replacement? it's the only reason that comes to mind
I came here to say this. FP audio is usually sh!t quality so not using it makes sense if you have the external DAC option readily available.
Front panel audio header is most likely covered because you'd be using that external DAC anyway?
Yeah, if you can afford a motherboard like this you can spend a couple hundred on a decent dac and solid state amp.
@@PUPGRLPDX the board includes one, see 2:38 "i cannot judge if this is any good or not"
eh i guess
@Transistor Jump It would be a true situation tho. Like when I am going to buy a 3080 in a year and use it with a 1080p 165hz monitor.
it comes with an external DAC. that's why it has a cover for front-panel audio.
The introduction is stunning, Like just for it!
I absolutely love you for all the work you put into your videos. Thank you for dual posting in DE and EN! I'd miss out on so much good content if you only posted in DE cuz mine SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS! 🤣 Be well and stay safe!
only 6 sata ports ? I expected more, especially when I saw it has enough VRM to restart Chernobyl.....
People are moving to NVMe now. This board can run 5 of those out of the box. Very little reason to include more than 6 SATA ports.
@@Raivo_K still, i wouldn't mind putting 2 more sata ports to round out the most extreme Z590 board from Giagbyte
@@rahulravishankar3152 If you need more storage just get a PCIe card to control the storage devices. Or buy a dedicated NAS because nobody needs more than 6x12TB in a single computer.
@@rahulravishankar3152 just use a NAS like everyone in 2021
Who uses a NAS here? (I am very curious now)
Thank you very much!! , I was waiting so much for this motherboard still here in USA there is not date yet for release” you are the first guy to review this product I already has waterforce z390 and z490 but you has all the right and thanks to be %100 honest is truly higher price ever wow I mean z390 I paid $850 and $1200 for z490 but around $2000 that’s a lot now I’m really thinking about it I’m pretty sure than I go for z590 without monoblock I was expecting like around $1500 not more than that I always like to have everything last high end but is too much now I’m think is not worth it... thank you so much for be honest and gives us your real opinion.
Looks stunning
Brilliant intro lol
Buying GPUs nowadays feel exactly that way as well LOL
Have a great week ahead Roman and save some of your organs, you might need them later down on the road :)
That’s an insane bit of kit
Der8auer, how often do you have the front audio connected when doing extreme overclocking?
Loved the intro!
purchased, thanks for review
That was awesome thanks for sharing
' to keep a cool head' .. brilliant. the ginger is loving it !
Dude!! This is why we have CZcams and why you are here with us.
Cool start
12:00 Damn, those are a lot of options while my old mobo barely had any.
I think the exposed copper CPU contact on the back of the block is exactly as simple as you stated. With a block that big it would be smart to have the most important dimension, the CPU contact, wait be finalized after the rest of the assembly is complete. That way margins for error around the rest of the block can be a bit more forgiving, and even though nickle plated copper performs perfectly well thermally, one less layer of material to transfer the heat through.
The cover for the front panel audio and bios switches is just an aesthetic thing. From what I can see theres a hole to allow the front panel audio cable to pass through, and as these cables generally have ugly bare wires at the end, I like the idea. It's the little details like that that help justify the pricetag.
i don't think it'd fit the connector, hd-audio connector are pretty tall and the cover would get in the way. maybe they're not expecting users to use front panel? they did include a dac with the motherboard
Agh yes 1 cent of plastic really helps to justify the price tag
Imagine spending 2000 euros on a board to run an 11900k lmao
:)))))
Lmao
wow! Beautiful board, Wunderbar!
It looks beautiful
Wow I love the back plate and the included water block damn
that is one nice board looks sick
I promised my girl I would melt this down to a ring for our wedding when I'm done...I'm single now.
It serves as almost a concept motherboard. I'm sure motherboard manufacturers will start putting features like this has on to cheaper boards. The angled, single sided interface was from iO/24 pin etc was bloody beautiful. I wish a manufacturers would be brave enough and invest in this style design standard.
Bravo GB!
@der8auer
You are about to make couple more of these video's, the new gen motherboards are insane expensive!
Damn, love the RS5 man!
Had to scroll down so far to find this comment.
Thermal conductivity of Nickel is 90.9 W/(m·K). Thermal conductivity of Copper is 401 W/(m·K)
Hi,
Any idea why Der8auer oc frames for i7 9700k are nowhere to be found?
I guess people buy boards like that for the looks. And it looks pretty stunning.
Sees the RGB on the motherboard: "wow. like really WOW."
Congrats on 400K subs!!!
Looks like the bottom of CPU block contains transparent LCD? Am I correct?
What about watercooling the NVMe? Does it cover one slot thats PCIE Gen4? Since those can get really toasty on air, running 7Gbps...
I came to the same conclusion, i got the Z390 Xtreme non-waterforce and a HeatKiller CPU block instead. Came out much cheaper the the WF version.
Any plans to try de EK Kryo on the new 11 gen?
Wann kommt es denn auf den markt für den endkunden ? bzw wo kann man es kaufen . Ich meine es ist schon krasses nice to have teil . (besser als Asus Glacial??)
The intro was just funny 😂
can this mainboard use a ryzen 5950? on the box it only specifies that it supports intel gen 10 and 11 so im unsure if it supports the newer AMD versions
my guess about the CPU contact surface being milled down to the copper is that it's either purely aesthetic (like decorative copper on the bottom of a pan) or that gigabyte expects their target user to be more likely to ask about nickel's nominally slightly lower thermal conductivity than copper, than to want to delid and/or liquid metal -- is the mount height of the monoblock adjustable to the extent that you could even direct-die cool it?
Finaly good motherboard for my celeron
What you think about the ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Extreme Glacial Intel Z590 with the full waterblock
2k€ Part?
Cat:"let me just lay on this here for a moment"
15:40 The none nickle plated copper CPU block is not a manufacturing mistake. Copper is the best the thermally conductive metal and is over three times the thermal conductivity of Nickel. It is important to make sure that the surface that will interact with the CPU is the most thermally conductive. The nickel plating on the rest of the metal loop is to slow corrosion and oxidization because of the 'wet environment' it may marginally add some structural strength to the copper and 'improves' the aesthetics as well.
wtf is this intro.. :DDD That was hilarious!
Crazy expansive... but wow amazing looking board.
I think the audio cover is great, I don't use it and I am sure a lot of other people don't aswell. It keeps the board looking clean. Hell, I only connect the power switch from the front of the case, the usb and audi I always uninstall! screw extra cables!
thats top quality and performance board, so it cost accordingly
The reason they milled after plating isn't due to dimension issue, its to increase quality. I'm glad they took the time for post machining after plating because it shows the level of quality they put into it. Plating, coating, etc has its purpose but its not going to help with thermal dynamics. Removing that plating increases the thermal efficiency just a little more for a critical component that can benefit from it so it can be exposed to the copper itself. Plating is nice to look at though hehe and to reduce corrosion in other applications.
So does this crazy mobo also come with Realtek USB Audio? Recently completed a Z590 build using a 10900k on a Gigabyte Aorus Ultra. Its on-board audio comes up as "Realtek USB Audio". USB for on-board audio? Is that common now? And there is a delay with that audio...had to end up using an $8 USB Audio dongle to get audio that's actually synced up with video. Very frustrating.
The nickel is milled off the CPU cold plate because the thermal paste will protect against corrosion and so pure copper can be used for improved thermal conductivity; nickel plating is good for longevity, but adds a layer (literally) of thermal resistance to the transfer system.
I use my front panel audio... actually never thanks to my wireless headset. I used it a week ago as I forgot to charge it, but before that I havent used it for 2-3 years. I would keep the cover to hide the connector :)
It looks likes there is a rubber plug on the side of the front panel audio cover to feed the wires in?
Interesting that Gigabyte made an extra special effort to cool the Thunderbolt chip (thermal pads on both sides of the board). Anyway to quantify the benefit of this? It appears they made almost as much effort to cool the TB chip as the z590 chipset.
The Z490 Aorus Waterforce (so the same, for 10th gen) is 1580€ VAT included in EU - so i guess that Z590 should have a similar price (it's the same full cover block, i suppose they did not change much at all but the chipset).
The intro was impresive...
Nice intro Roman...
awesome intro
... this is going to be in my first pc.... and I (with no experience) have to install it...
Are you planning on reviewing the Z690 Xtreme Waterforce?
wow that is insane. I had an aurous Xtreme z390 and I think it was like $750
I wonder, has any motherboard maker done a monoblock that also cools the VRM supplying power to the RAM?
can You kindly show us if you can overclock RAM on threadripper pro?! 8 dimms udimm or even ecc
Nice design always costs plenty of scratch. Doesn’t change the fact that I’d be very happy if Gigabyte also gave me one to make content with.
For someone who is new to BIOS settings after being a MacHead since the 90’s & is a total noob to DIY PC building, where’s a good place to learn what all the different BIOS settings & menus and what the do? I’ve tried Googling with little success. By the way, did you sort out your weird brakes in the A7? 😎✌🏼
I'm assuming they used a copper plate for the bit above the cpu IHS as if you use LM then its only Aluminium that is affected by it and not bare copper, is Nickel plating affected by using LM ?, I'm not sure.
This generation allows to increase the speed of the caches independently? or raise the ring bus without raising the core clock to see how much it improves internal latencies and gaming performance
The youtube language detector detected german instead of english, probably cause of accent 😋
I know these temperatures. My 9900k has about 26-28°C in idle on a Gigabyte Z390D with a 360mm AIO. I dont know the VRM temp. There‘s no thermal sensor. But there are only 6 and cooled by a huge heatsink. This Gigabyte Board was the best z390 board, I‘ve ever had.
What application is that to see all the temperatures?
It reminds me of the GA-Z77X-UP7, a insanely some 30+(claimed) phase VRM design.. For a quad core.. This insane VRM and cooling on this board.. For the i9 11900K.
My guess for the milling of the block was to get very precise tolerance without variances induced by the plating.
Also, the thin layer of nickel is less conductive than bare copper + you have a micro porous surface to improve the surface area
From a manufacturing point of view. on the milling after the nickel plating. it is easier to take away nickel plating than it is to try and keep it from applying to a surface. they submerge the block and imagine how hard it would be to keep the plating off that area.
at 02:45 anyone know what that is? he says it's an m.2 extension card but i can't seem to find its existence.
only 5.1ghz though? the 8700K runs 5ghz all core at very reasonable temps with a solid classic heatsink-fan solution. 6 core 12 threads.. and 95W vs 125 . what are the real gains in performance and is it worth upgrading maybe next year.. thats what Im going in on shortly !
😂😂😂 the best start of this video.
I'm not even mad at it, it transcends any question of value, but possibly as a work of art if it has that value to you, then it's super super cool. I'm just not sure on a piece of technology that will be out dated annually (in the best case scenario which Z590 is the reverse). I am still ok it exists though as it's a very nice board as a like concept for what high end boards could look like in the future. It would be $3,300 Australian dollars after VAT
Great Intro
They are there in Gigabyte to check where the endurance of customers (lemmings) lies. For example, they order laptops from Clevo, put their stamps Aorus on them and sell them for 200% Clevo. And the best part is that there are people who fall for it!
Whoa, that is coooooo!
I have the air cooled version of this board but what is throwing me off is that the the instructions say the middle m2 slot is the only one that supports pcie 4.0
and on such motherboard you can’t even do 3090 SLI because the PCIe slots are 3X apart
Let me introduce you : watercooling. Nearly sure this board is intended for that :)
It looks like you can install or change the M.2 drives after the monoblock is installed. The screws on the top side of the M.2 covers look like they enable access to the drives.
Can anyone confirm this?
Nice video as usual der8auer! I loved that intro, thank you.
I will never be able to justify a purchase like this, but price aside this looks really nice.
Well i just got mine today in the mail. New in box for just 220euro. ( had a msi z490 gaming) but a new one of the msi was more expensive than a new aorus z590 xtreme waterforce.
Fantastic motherboard, i love my Z390 Godlike from MSI, but this absoluty amazing, we wait Z690 DDR5 12th Gen
der8auer: look this motherboard!!
me: nice cat
is that at same level of soc force?
Whats the max cpu power consumption?
didnt previous waterforce boards also come with the CPU installed, this one you had to supply yourself?
9900k did
Never heard of that? The Z390 and Z490 weren't like that
Most did not come with a cpu. Maybe vendors made a combo deal but that's probably the extent.
Do an 11900k overclock tutorial! I have mine at 5.2 all core and so far not bad but there is so much above my head in the Z590 BIOS. Using z590 hero
It really is a beautiful board "damn" hahah (-8
Wow !!! R$ 12.000,00 There are approximately 11 minimum wages in Brazil, only 10% of the population could pay for it.
Yet it really is amazingly beautiful.