The Iliad by Homer: Book 2: The Chorus of Achaean Formations + Commentary (Audiobook w/ music & sfx)
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- The Iliad, rewritten & adapted into a new audio drama by George Weidman. Headphones recommended. Podcast version: nebula.tv/bunnyhopbookclub
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00:00 Book Two: The Hymn of Achean Formations
29:39 Commentary: Introduction to The Iliad
35:07 The divine right to rule
37:52 Details on late bronze-age collapse
40:26 The Iliad's connection to development of democracy
45:05 Agamemnon's dream & Homer's dramatic irony
47:49 The connection between the Greek gods & human psychology
52:14 The Catalog of Ships
54:24 This episode's artifact: Mycenaean Warrior Vase
55:15 Thanks, acknowledgements, music credits
55:37 Heroic Patron epithets - Zábava
I love you george in a platonic way of course , this is an unexpected but surprisingly wholesome and most welcome departure from video game essays not to say that you weren't an excellent critic. i love the way your read between the lines and sort of mix your own interpretations your so awesome. i can feel the excitement in this reading! this is so soulful i could cry tears of happiness lmfao
Platonic as in Plato's Symposium?
You don't need anything for a platonic love. For everything else -- there is Adam&Eve.
@@Birmanncat right on lol
Hat off to you, George! Only real men of culture don't skip the Catalogue of Ships. You really are determined to read the whole poem... We're in for a ride!
I remember years back on your old podcast when you first mentioned falling down a classical antiquity rabbit hole and it's both surprising and endearing to see that this not only persisted but culminated in a project like this. I appreciate the opportunity to experience this work for the first time courtesy of your efforts!
As someone who largely consumes books through Audible, I gotta say I wish there were more audio books like this.
As a native greek I never really enjoyed Homer or the ancient tragedies (αρχαίες τραγωδίες) because of how awfully they were presented to us as kids in school. As I grew older i rediscovered my own cultural heritage mainly through media such as this one and by mainly foreign enthusiasts of the ancient "greek" culture such as yourself. For that i feel very grateful.
It's an amazing coincidence that these two episodes released just in time for both ways of my train trip.
I am adoring these voices and speech patterns for these characters, especially how Odysseus seems to be speaking as an outsider from this more poetic setting
I will say, I love the Catalogue of Ships in the Iliad. It is long and tedious, but listening to it is surprisingly pleasant, and there are great nuggets in it as written: for instance, Agamemnon talks a lot of hot shit in Book 1 and even a bit in Book 2, if I recall. But after hearing the number of ships from each place, and then hearing Agamemnon's hundred black ships dwarfing the numbers of almost every other king and commander, his shit-talking carries more weight.
My other favorite part is, after how long the Achaeans' section it, we are given a comparatively TINY section dedicated to the Trojans and their heroes, showing us how numerically fucked they are, which is perfect for setting up the drama of how the tables turn, and what the turning of those tables mean to the Trojans, both letting us feel the incredible relief of finding victory against overwhelming odds, and the tragedy of having it taken away later in the story.
Love that this is happening though, looking forward to the rest.
Nestor bringing 90 ships is also pretty impressive. One more reason people listen too and respect him even though he's too old to fight and can't do anything beyond giving advice.
❌: We outnumber them at least ten to one.
✅: We outnumber them so much that if we divide in groups of ten, and every group captures one trojan to serve them wine, many of the groups would lack a wine pourer
George this is phenomenal and each book is better than the last it seems. I really appreciate the breakdown at the end. I've read the Illiad and the Odyssey multiple times and I know some of the context, but I've never had deep dive - yet digestible - context provided like this.
I've never been too much into audiobooks due to acute hearing loss issues but this was an absolute treat. Absolutely stellar job.
I'm truly obsessed with that description of the irony of Agamemnon's lie, spectacular stuff.
With the crazy production value I thought these would be wayyy farther apart, this is awesome!
Damn, I remember reading this a bunch of times, a decade or so ago, and being bored shitless by the unending ship lists but I hardly ever felt it this time. Goes to show how much some good narration helps with a story like this, thanks for doing this 👍
Reading through The Catalogue of Ships is rather rough but hearing it like this was awesome.
52:00 so "I clapped when I saw that cameo" is timeless, huh
This is what happens when you let your average metal gear enthusiast play assassins creed odyssey
I love your interpretation of Odysseus. He has that old timey Hollywood Simple Country Lawyer energy.
I've followed your work since the first "critical close ups" (10 year ago???) and this is probably my favourite thing you've produced. Astounding quality, I know it's not as mainstream a topic as video games but I really hope you have great success with this series
If one of your goals with posting this on your channel was making some random nerds uninterested in this text give it a try, you've succeeded. Your work on this is so impressive
Question is....you adapting all 24 books?
Thanks for all the hard working putting this here, i am really liking listening.
i need to admit thought when i heard without looking on the screen the part
"So he spoke, and a great roar erupted among the Argives"
I thought Argives was Ehrgeiz, that game.
I’m hooked can’t wait for ep 3
Honestly if George just wanted to start doing audio books I'd be down.
The best narration is when it can make you feel as if someone of that time was talking to you, the atmosphere and tone fulfills that very well. Cheers!
Really liked how you did Odysseus here. Good everyman quality with dashes of a Coen Bros./Simpsons doofus. Good cover for his wit and cunning.
I love your version of the Iliad. There's no friction at all to enjoying the story, and it's actually kind of a banger.
This is absolutely fantastic!!
So Patreon Patrons list is basically this channel’s Catalog of ships
I've waited a long time for a new update. Looking forward to seeing what George has in store with this one!
People say this content is unexpected from you but having watched your latest videos I think it's fairly noticeable how you've wanted to do steer your channel into a new direction for a while now. Best of lucks.
I really like this interpretation of Odysseus. It makes the epithet "silver-tongued" make more sense to modern ears.
I never know what i'm gonna get from this channel and it's always something amazing
So Agamemnon is basically Richard Nickson from Futurama X) That dude gets around, no matter the age or time.
This is very educational as well as entertaining! I hope you'll look into other myths after it... Arthurian would be nice
I'm really enjoying this. Good work!
"The god's are no longer divided in council.
Hera's convinced them ... of her will"
Not sure exactly how to read this change Agamemnon makes to the dream (did he forget? Doesn't like spouses?), but it gave me a good chuckle.
Thank You is all I can say, Thank you
Great job George!
oh fuck part 2 already? hell yeah
Thanks for doing this, it’s great stuff.
They made us read The Odyssey back in school, and despite being pretty into history I failed to find it interesting. However I've excitedly been listening to this thus far! I think it's so cool of you to dive full force into the things you're passionate about despite it not being stricly "in your wheelhouse", it's really inspiring from a creative standpoint.
Keep it up, man 👍
You know it's interesting hearing you compare between Hesiod and Homer. Maybe it was just the translation I read but I remember theogony having a ton of personality, particularly of hesiod himself and it was a great read. Obviously not to the scale of Homer's works but that wasn't the point
Regardless, loving the commentaries. Learning some things we didn't even cover in my university classics courses!
This is pure gold, George. Looking forward to the next episode. I am sure you already have, but if you haven't, please do check Simone Weil's "The Iliad or the Poem of Force". It is right up your alley.
This is tight
Nice
Hey, George - if you'd like to check out a tabletop RPG that should be right up your alley given your current vibe, see AGON by John Harper and Sean Nittner. Might empower you to play through your very own Odyssey... :)
"Hera has convinced them in her way most spousel"
Lol
Thanks for the vid
I’m really confused and I love it
cool story bro
What Is the meaning in the party when Nestor suggests to Agamemnon to use the troops in a new formation made by "fulai" and "fratriai" (these are the greek Words but i wrote them in western alphabet)??
Yes yes
I LOVE YOU GEORGE ❤
Funny that Homer so wants to stress that it's a big army that he dedicates several elaborate comparisons to it. Lots of dudes, we get it.
25:00 the ships
Let's goooo
book 2 down!
Who is the translator?
George, are you okay? Just checking If you got your infinite ammo bandanna while you read.
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When was the last time you saw a first comment, huh?
@@mrzoozilla971 🤓
@@LtSprinkulz 😭
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I only know of "The Illiad" because of Lara Croft, in Tomb Raider Anniversary. Specifically, during the mansion level where you try to find little secrets here and there. It's a book. I guess her father was huge into history and was an explorer.
Being an anthropologist and an archaeologist, her father was indeed an explorer and huge into history