ATF to clean engine sludge ?
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When they get that bad, I've found the best way to do it is to fill the engine with gasoline, let the car run in neutral till the car is to operating temperature. The gas breaks down the sludge. Once it's warmed up to operating temperature, throw a lit match through the intake as you shove the car out into the street.
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Fuckin A .. i knew something didn’t sound right from the very beginning lol
To all you 😜🤯 (du du duhh people) it was a joke. This doesn't really work.
only do that when your cr burn a lot of oil and throw it to the exhaust will be a wonder...
ATF was clearly dissolving the deposits. Over several oil changes, this would continue to improve.
if my car takes 4 quarts of oil should i use 3 quarts of oil and 1 quart of ATF??
Sad to see a newer car treated like this. I think using the old style transmission fluid is the way to go. Reminds me of when I bought a used 1979 Celica GT in 1987 to drive back and forth to work. The original owner had done 3 or 4 oil changes in 8 years. Surprisingly the car ran pretty good. The 20R engine was bullet proof. A trusted old mechanic told me what to do to clear some of the sludge. I drained the oil, changed the oil filter, added 2 quarts cheap oil and 3 quarts of cheap type F transmission fluid. I drove it around for a couple of hours, not revving the engine. Drained the oil and was amazed at the chunks of sludge that came out. I did this once more in a month. I ran cheap oil in the car for the next 3 years. I was told that ATF had high levels of detergents. In 1990 I traded it in for a new Isuzu pickup. Keep the content coming!
Great story, glad that worked out for you. It's crazy how some people neglect cars!
With ATF you have to be patient. It takes longer than a chemical flush or using diesel fuel as it doesn't remove as much too soon. You don't want to clog up your oil screen. Method you used works. What I do is drain oil add a new oil filter and run 4 quarts of ATF on idle for 20 minutes. Drain it, add new engine oil and oil filter. Next oil change to be done @ 1000 miles since you have some oil residue. 3rd oil change you can repeat your method. I use regular non synthetic ATF. I purchase it @ Walmart for about $19. For 1 gallon.
FYI: 73 days is too long. Half a quart is to be ran for 300-400 miles. 1 quart for about 100- 200 miles. The more ATF you use, the less you drive it. Your method is good in order to build up oil pressure while driving.
My dad purchased a Honda crv that was gunked up beyond belief. Believe it or not, he dumped oven cleaner into it and ran it for about 15 minutes just idling and when he took the valve cover back off, the top end was extremely clean. He ran 3 quarts of oil with 1.5 quarts of oven cleaner. Can’t say what it did to the gaskets in the engine but it was clean! And he drove it for four more years afterwards with no problems.
I use Marvel Mystery about every 3rd change, I'll typically add 3/4 of a quart and drive it 2 weeks before I change to oil. Tough to say because I would never let my crankcase get sludgy to begin with, MMO does have a stellar reputation though.
I worked on an engine like that. I'd be nervous about using a flush with chunks like that. I used a shop vac and picks and screwdrivers to gently detach the junk and sucked it up. I cleaned it as best as I could and with regular oil and filter changes its still going strong and the lifter tick it had is gone too 👍
I remember seeing Tim from Astral Auto Repair use gasoline and/or power washing on a sludged engine. He took off the oil pan during it so it could all come out. I believe he removed and cleaned the oil sump too. Extreme approach haha.
Thanks for the video, Mech a nic.
have had bmw 87 reg
318e carb. never changed oil in 3 years just added…and engine undel valve cover was clean as cats balls
Another vote for Seafoam mixed with new oil in concentrations advised on the bottle, with changes every few hundred miles. Always change when really hot, the engine needs to be completely warmed up.
Using Royal Purple oil is the best. Engine flushes including ATF do work but I have found Royal works great over time. Safe way to do it. Expensive yes but better then the cost of a new engine or car. I have replaced half the oil with ATF and let it idol for 60 minutes. That got gunk out as well.
Use Amsoil engine flush before you drain your oil next time. And then only use Amsoil Signature Series engine oil. It has the highest detergents in the industry. Check your engine a year from now. Every oil change will dissolve more sludge and varnish and clean it up more and more until it looks like new. Thank me later.☺
I bet thats how I look on the inside - Ill be 60 on April 12th. However, I am happy to report that instead of GUNK or something like that I flush my system with coffee. Seems to be working so far.... :)
😄 Awwe ... Lovely
Rotella 10/30. Diesel oil has detergents in it that help clean sludge and soot. I run rotella in my car normally
Delicious. I bought an F150 the inline six. It was that bad if not worse. Manually scraped the crud off the head and 1 inch deep of tar like sludge out of the oil pan. After that a couple heavy on the seafoam oil changes later and it was good to go.
Great effort 💪
Had a jeep wrangler in early 2000s with the inline 6. It was driving like a slug wouldn't even do hwy speeds 100km here.
Was about 175000km on odometer when I decided to seafoam it. I poured the whole can into the crankcase Immediately noticed a huge difference when driving was like new feeling i dumped the oil while hot as per manufacturer instructions and the sludge chunks and black gunk thick as molasses came out like you wouldn't believe. Was my first seafoam experience and it went so well I have a strong opinion on it now.
Some have concerns that those big chunks can clog a oil pickup or galley and starve the engine of oil which makes sense. I guess it's just a gamble and it depends how bad the gunk build up is
I saved some cars making noise on the oil pump because of sludge with half oil half diesel i didnt expect the first time it worked but its amazing
I would say some manual cleaning, and then short oil change intervals with synthetic oil. High mileage oil is supposed to have higher detergent levels.
Marvel Mystery Oil is good for cleaning sludge (from what I’ve seen) Amsoil Engine Flush also looks like a good product, but is expensive and hard to come by.
Diesel mixed with cheap oil don’t rev just idle watch fuel pressure use lots of oil filters. Run an 30 min change filter, another 30 change both. Repeated a few times.I did it to a flip with stuck lifters and it 👀 like that.
I would use a commercial engine flush and do a few 500 mile changes. Dura Lube has sludge away. Marvel. Maybe Gunk. That engine needs serious chemical flushing. Thanks Jon.
900 ml with Diesel, plus acetone and ATF 1/3 of each. It will speed up some. Do a flush with it and the use as additive by 10% for the next 2 oil change intervals afthe the pure flushing. I've also tried 700 ml of gasoline and 100 ml of dish wash detergent giving a decent in a 15 minutes quick cleaning.
I would only pour one bottle worth in and drive as usual for a week or two then change it and gradually cleans off the scum.
If you fill the engine it possibly could wash off large amounts of the scum and have it jam up important galleries.
My first car had a basically 6litre engine which was a bit neglected by the previous owner. I think he drove short distance and didn't change more often like you're supposed to leading to a little scum.
What I did was buy Quaker State high detergent fleet oil by the case and changed it in half the time you usually do. I opened the filters up after to see how they went from flakes down to dust size particles to almost nothing.
After a year or two it was sparkly clean.
I also tried Wynns Valve Lifter (i forgot what the entire name was. Cleaner i think. It was a clear solution that poured like fuel and smelled like varsol.
It helped a little but not as much as the early changes did.
I read a few books back then
The best one was by Robert Appel
"The Used Car Owners Handbook"
He or one of the authors suggested sticking to one brand of oil, not always trying different brands and what is the absolute cheapest. Different additives all the time don't help.
If u have a sludged engine try mixing diesel with the oil prior to changing the oil and run it for a bit before drainng
Didn’t know about ATF 20+ years ago. Used M.M.O. instead - 1/3 of a quart about 100 miles prior to (3-4,000 mile) oil changes…
I would just keep using the ATF with a good detergent oil & change the oil in shorter intervals. Most of the motor flushes are just kerosene with a few extra additives.
Diesel is cheaper
Diesel fuel into the oil works well. Have to change the oil a few times after though
I did not think it would work synthetic or non trany fluid . Ok what I have done and seen it done with awesome results was your regular engine flush you get at your supplier done twice for best results . Now I am very squeamish to use it on any late model engine but a slugged up beater sure :)
BG Products makes a specific kit of chemicals to safely flush out oil sludge .
just changing oil more often and using premium oil like amsoil will clean it. my engine was smotless and clean white metal
If it works you stand the risk of clogging the oil pick up screen and starving the engine. The tricky part is you never know when is long enough to run it.
Would MMO work on the sludge?
I used it in a sandrail that was sitting for a while. It had a 1986 oldsmobile 3.8l v6. The 1st oil change with the MMO had gunk and was super dark
Seafoam. 1 ounce per quart of engine oil. About 200 miles before each oil change. Your engine was extremely gunked up. You might want to take a toothbrush and agitate the gunky sludge of the parts around your camshafts run some fresh oil and seafoam through the engine for a few days then do another oil change.
I've seen one or two other videos like this where people try this or that to remove gunk buildup. For as heavy as the gunk is that you've got going on there, I'd bet any this or that will need a few tries to show improvement.
You should try marvel mystery oil
BG brand.b I've seen it on "watch jr go" channel. He used it on a camaro i believe. But it's a long process. It was very effective
STP Motor treatment and MMO Put in a thicker oil 1 quart of of MMO and Half can of STP Motor treatment run it for 200 miles it will work
Try Rislone engine treatment yellow bottle one is high mileage and qr100
I remember my father in law ran diesel fluid Thur the motor and seen chucks of sludge come out of the pan .. just run for 5 minutes and drain and repeat..
Marvel mystery oil, been using it since the early 70's
Takes time but works,does no harm. Good gentile cleaner
I think i would be pulling off the oil pan to check the oil pickup tube screen and cleaning out the oil pan with a engine degreaser.
Only way to go
Honestly you run more of a risk trying to clean that severe of engine sludge. Light layered yogurt sludge is okay, but that car to clean it will take a hot tank. When i was young and ignorant to engine cleaning. I had someone tell me to run engine cleaner in an old chevy 350. Long story short it made the engine sieze up due to heavy hardened sludge plugging up the oil ways. Never did that again. Tranny fluid non synthetic for LIGHT soft sludge is okay as long as you change the filter after a drive, then after a week of driving change the oil and see if it needs to be repeated. I personally wont do them anymore especially on newer cars, to dangerous and costly with all the tiny oil passagways. Do the oil change and ship it.
You can put a little Diesel fuel in the oil it will clean it out
I have used kerosene and diesel successfully with good results. 1-2 quarts in engine and run for 15-30 minutes. Then drain.
When this engine us gunked up like this is typically not a good sign..... the foam in his oil is probably a small hint of coolant or something that is mixing in his oil and should get his gaskets replaced. I also use a 50/50 mixture of atf and acetone that make a great degreaser on a engine that is cleaner than that
After you cleaning it, they will stop changing oil...... So its moot!
It must was throwing cam codes I seen this on a impala even with a new cam sensor put in light still was on !
palm oil clean sludge better. Work best as engine oil additive for example 10%. but choose brand carefully.
the atf dissolved it, the sludge wouldnt been that soft if not, but that engine was a disaster with that amount of sludge.
Diesel Fuel and Kerosene are both oils and I’ve heard positive things from both being used as an engine sludge solvent. Now I’ve gotta search the interwwbs to see what I find..
But of luck folks!
Will these methods work on a 2017 ford fusion 1.5 ecoboost? Bought used and having issues due to sludge build up had in 3 times to dealership and now they want me to pay $500-$600 to tare the engine down for pictures of inside to decide if it's covered under extended warranty. They all ready had it open to replace timing phazers and they replaced both vvt solenoids another time and cleaned the vvts another so 3 times in and no fix. It's sluggish on take off or after hard turns like roundabouts. Oil has been changed every 5000 any info would be appreciated I'm thinking of possibly even getting a lawyer to get me out of this mess. So it's been in 3 times no fix and I thought a 4th and no fix I can yake legal action right ? Bought car from Minnesota and live in Wisconsin
Run Shell Rotella T6, normally used In diesel engines. It is very high detergent.
@@Beardman56 5w40 will work great
Erm.... NO ! I been running Rotella in My cars for ~15 years
And while there is no sludge (regular oil/filter changes)
they look like they have been painted black inside.
Anither Old wives' tale unfortunately.
I've seen some videos on Royal Purple being able to clean engines, I think their oil formulation has some detergents in it?
All of your top line oils have detergents in them. Even your premium fuels have detegents in them. What you want is a hot engine and high detergent levels. You can dump diesel fuel into the engine and run it at idle for 30 mins or the same thing with ATF Fluid, or do a half and half of atf and oil, do not drive the car but let it idle. Could probably even let it rev around 2500-3000 to help increase oil pressure and how much oil is being slung around to clean everything.
high oil temperature, it deformed the filter - antifreeze that does not cool in the summer
Try using liqui moly engine flush.
Yes, there is a huge difference between "conventional" and "synthetic" oil, ATF.
brake fluid, etc. Some substitute silicone-based brake fluid for conventional,
then ruin their entire braking system.
This engine needs serious help. 91 octane gasoline poured into valvetrain,
brushed around, mopped up with red oil rags. Coat hanger wire pushed into
drain holes. Valve cover rinsed & brushed & rinsed. Oil pan same.
_Then_ you can run a quart of ATF for a while & drain. Non-ethanol gasoline
is what drag racers wash parts in. It will not hurt anything. The chunks
and grit must be removed first.
Conventional vs synthetic ATF makes no difference in this context. It's the detergent package, not the hydraulic oil itself, that makes ATF useful for some degree of cleaning. The comparison to brake fluid makes no sense at all. Apples and oranges. Synthetic ATF and engine oil are made to be direct replacements for conventional, where silicone brake fluid (DOT 5) is not and is clearly labeled as such. There should be no confusion on this if one simply reads the label.
@@jayslabotsky462 Jay- I was trying to iterate that I have heard of some unknowingly add DOT5 to an older car, thinking it's "better".
Conventional vs. synthetic=
Just like the oils, the molecules are very different, ATF being no
exception. I know about detergent packages, too. It is my
_personal preference_ to use conventional.
Why not use Chem Dip made by berryman.
First, I don't think it's good to leave anything in there long term. The sludge is from oil abuse, specifically not changing oil soon enough. I would Seafoam or product like it. You'll use it next time here wants an oil change, put it in, drive or run engine as directed, and change oil, heavy sludge will take a while to clear it all out. DO NOT USE GASOLINE! Except as a spot solvent. That much sludge you're looking at clogging oil galleries if you don't go slow, so may be regular ATF is the way to go.
Hey Johnathan explain to me how I can clean my 96 hardbody engine like this without removing valve cover pls
Im not really sure. Read through the comments.people have great suggestions
A quart of atf is not going to do it. Drain all the old oil. Replace it with five quarts of ATF. Let it >>idle
Amsoil engine flush and Shell Rotella
Dump a extra large can of seafoam in the crankcase run it for 500 miles change oil again
Looks like the owner is not changing the oil, that shit is from neglect. I think thats a little too much sludge for ATF to clean up.
Use DMSO :)))
BG dynamic, but it's expensive
I'd say some seafoam in the oil and run it for 10 min before oil change
Terrible sludge... I think you can add some gasoline or detergent in the oil to clean it inside...then drive around for 3 days and do an oil change.
This is a typical car owner that buys a car but really cant afford the maintenance on it.perfect example bringing it to a shade tree mechanic
Teenager girl with other things on her mind that than maintaining a car, lack of oil caused the timing problem, that's why I had to do a timing job on it.
Mix half atf and desil
Synthetic at. Has alot of scrubbing detergents. Synthetic. Never wears out. Just gets dirty. Use a bottle of Synthetic at. And change it out in 3k. You will be surprised
Liqui Moly or sea foam.
Any more improvements after future oil changes?
The car is actually here in my garage now. I'm about to do another oil change but the timing component don't sound happy. It still drives fine but it's not a quiet as it was before
If its variantes timing, clean the solenoid screen and tensioner
What’s causing that sort of sludge? Lack of regular oil changes? I just took the valve cover off my 41 year old Mercedes 240D with 265k miles, expecting to find a dirty engine, and it was perfectly clean inside. Just wondering how it gets so sludge coated?
My best guess is a faulty PCV valve caused it.
This ,and lack of oil changes .
That's nasty. If you get enough of that junk moving imagine how quickly it would clog the oil filter 🤔
how about clog the pickup screen your done
NOTHING is going to "break down" sludge like that. It must be removed by hand.
exactly.
Well im not doing it! The owner barely wants to pay for oil changes 😂
@@themechanic6117 It shows. Better check if that's real money!
@@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP Only gold and silver are real money. If they don't want to pay for oil changes I doubt they have real money.
nop diesel works and if the gunk is really bad as this car you pour epa based cleaner like injectors cleaners and watch ultra clean golden engine
kerosine/disel 1l in 20 min before change
Got a question , What brand of timing chain kit do you use . I'm a few problems with the after market timing chain kits ( CLOYES ) . Started using only GM timing parts but I need a cheaper but reliable alternative , Has anyone used the MELLING timing chain brand .
I've only used cloyes and i haven't had problems but also i dont do many timing jobs
@@themechanic6117 o.k. thanks for the reply , I have used cloyes for years without issue but the last couple of set's had problems , maybe I just got a bad batch .
What kind of issues?
@@themechanic6117 chain tensioner failure one on GM 3.6 and one on a ford 4.6 . The GM 3.6 came back to shop about 5 months after chain kit replace , jumped 1 tooth out on time . The ford 4.6 come back after 1 week of replacement with rattle on acceleration front of engine , when I tore it back down found right side tensioner very weak, when I push in on tensioner piston . oil shoot out between piston & bore .
How do modern engines get sludge buildup???
People not doing oil changes on time or at all
Failed or ailing pvc valve is another possibility. Some vehicles are more prone to this than others.
Why not use a commercial Engine Flush solution. Its chemically designed to remove engine sludge "safely" in the oil.
Choose a brand you trust and give it a go!
Its not my car. The owner doesnt even want to pay for oil changes let alone experimenting with chemicals to see what works. As far as theyre concerned the car drives fine
Fair enough! Love your channel man.
Thank you 💪
@@themechanic6117 hey check my post atf can help you man. You did it wrong.
Diesel fuel and oil
In Europe we dont have this sludge problem. We ran engine oils up to 15k miles all the time. What a trashy fuel you have!
Id soak thatvaluve cover in diesel fuel and clean it before reassembling it...
What would you do to get the deisel and pieces of sludge out of a head
Use MOBIL 1.
Diesel flush
Use a gallon of sea foam
Diesel
Look up kerosene engine flush. Its 100% legit. Gotta be on a cold engine though.
liqui moly engine flush
Kerosene will
Seafoam
Watet
The claim that ATF synthetic or conventional, has a lot of detergents is that, a myth. Transmissions are hydraulic machines that do not see combustion blow-by, high temps, acids, and sludge as engine do. They are actually low viscosity, hydraulic fluid with low amounts of detergents. Perform a double oil change to get rid of 100% of the old oil. 10-20% of oil will remain after a normal oil change, especially those ECOTEC engines. Then use Amsoil 100% synthetic Signature Series oil, 0W-40 oil. It has a high amount of detergents and will safely and slowly clean your engine. Dont worry about the sludge sitting on top of your engine. This does not adversely affect your engine. Looks like the engine was neglected for a long time. Use a high qaulity filter, oil and change every 3k. Also clean those VVT solenoids too. This requires strong chemicals and high pressure or physical contact, like they use in a machine shop.
Reads too much like a Shill advert
@@barenekid9695 Im not selling anything or schilling for anyone.
Kerosene
never seen that much trash in the engine
Yeah it's crazy
Diesel would have done a better job. Just pour 50% engine oil and 50% diesel.
This makes me cringe even if you break down the sludge it's only going to make it into all the small oil passages and could clog not a good idea ... you need to suck that stuff up before you put the motor back together...
Quaker state oil causes sludge
Not changing oil causes sludge
@@themechanic6117 that shit to
@@themechanic6117 using quaker state and thinking it can go 10k miles or havoline... I have worked on many motors that had quaker state in the block looks like jam sludge in the motor all the way through
That's crazy. I'd never go 10k on any oil. No matter the brand. I change my oil every 5k (full synthetic)
Meowwwww!!!!
Use engine flush it's the way to go to I might take 2 or 3 oil changes with engine flush to clean that Malibu💩
Engine flush is basically kerosene just more expensive.