Trying Sports Photography (on 35mm Film!) - Kamerastore
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Nico & Connor were given the opportunity to go to a professional hockey game in our city and couldn't pass up the chance to shoot some sports on film. Let's watch them pretend to be press photographers (or professionals in any capacity) and see if they get any good shots!
Many thanks to Ilves for inviting us to the game. If you're visiting Tampere, it's worth coming to Nokia Arena to see the team play!: www.ilves.com/
All the black and white photos were scanned with the VALOI easy35 and converted manually using Lightroom. kamerastore.com/pages/easy35
Colour photos have been scanned by Carmencita Film Lab
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Time Codes:
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00:00 - Introduction
01:00 - Nico's Kit
03:50 - Connor's Kit
06:35 - Other Gear Considerations
08:00 - The Stadium
09:10 - Warmups & 1st Period
11:00 - 2nd Period
13:07 - 3rd Period & Overtime
15:00 - Thoughts & Conclusions - Věda a technologie
That was a lot of fun
"Back in the day", the favoured camera in hockey arenas was the Nikon FM2, 100 ISO film was fine. As well as the 'suicide booth' there were holes cut into the glass around all four corners. Spots were limited, and each accredited photographer was given a PC cord to hook up to. Permanently attached to the gantry along with the stadium and TV lighting, were banks of strobes nothing else was needed as the ice was a perfect reflector, filling any shadows.
The FM2 was favoured for its fast flash synch 1/250th of a second, compared to 1/90th on a Nikon F3. When the F4 came out, it had the synch speed, but nobody trusted the focus. In those days hockey magazines were where most pictures would appear, and their requirements were extreme. Even leagues below the NHL had magazines and they would demand similar specifications on their photos - for instance a photo of a goalie making a save would not be considered for publication unless the puck was actually visible in the glove. Photographers largely relied on knowledge of the sport and experience, and in those days it was quite normal for photographers to only shoot one or two sports, you had to have a great knowledge of the sport. Nikon did improve things with the F5, but by then, the D1 was only a couple of years away.
Nobody shot like they do nowadays, burning through film and trusting that one or two would be good. Changing rolls took time and was done when there was a break in action, and if the play was still in action, photographers dreaded running out before a goal might be scored or something else might happen. This might sound old fashioned, but if you consider the incredible boxing photos shot in the early part of the last century, they were done by guys wielding cameras like Speed Graphics, where they had to change single sheets of film and a flash bulb in between every shot.
The arrival of digital also happened near the start of newspapers and magazines firing staffers and moving to using 'freelancers'. Prior to that, almost every publication held an extensive 'lens bank'. Staff photographers were given cameras and a couple of suitable lenses. Everything 'special' was available from the lens bank. Nikon had made a vow that the F-mount would always exist, and that every 35mm camera would always be able to use every 35mm lens. This made them the obvious choice for publications that might invest in hundreds of lenses.
I seem to remember Canon showcasing some amazing lenses to photographers at the '88 Winter Olympics, but I’m not sure they’d have experienced as much growth as they did, if publications had not gone to freelancers and let them worry about choosing their own equipment. Nowadays, even prestigious newspapers just give new journalists a quick briefing on how to get the best photos they can with their iPhone
Absolute truth! I've worked for several print publications in the last few years, all of which had some modest and outdated cameras, but always implied that the photographer had equipment. I think the number of photos on the web has become so large today that the quality requirements have decreased, and with it the resources for photographers. I see a lot of talent moving into video because of it, which is also nice, but not really the same thing.
Makes sense! The FM2's claim to fame was that fast flash sync. Pretty cool to think about it! Some of the other photographers were commenting on their old strobe setups in past stadiums and it made me wish we had strobes. Could've really improved the final results! Thanks for watching (-:
- Connor
Conner may be the first person in history to shoot hockey with a fisheye- awesome video, guys!
Those images are really, really good! Next time I have to give him a helmet. -Tuomas
Great video out in the real world!
Thank you so much! -Tuomas
You are totally ready for the Olympics! Get on that Marketing Team!
YES! I will make sure our head of marketing bookends some time for me to go to Paris!! Great idea!
- Connor
It would be insane to see the film budget needed to supply team of photographers to shoot an event like the olympics in 2024. Shooting nice expensive slide film too.
@@nathanpiperphoto It would actually be really cheap compared to what they are shooting now.
I think you should leave the pictures on the screen for longer, they are really cool:)
Good point! We'll keep it in mind for the next video. (-: Thanks for watching.
- Connor
@@Kamerastore or you can make a gallery at the end I’ve your video! Really interesting to see the results🙏
Loved this one. Brings back memories of shooting action on film. More like this 🙂
As a hockey fan and Kamerastore fan, this was best of both worlds! Great stuff guys :)
Thank you! Ilves was so generous by giving us the opportunity to go and photograph the game. -Tuomas
it was a super cool and refreshing topic for the film photography univers on YT, no pun intended :D
Great video. Very interesting to hear your equipment choices and to see them in real hard action. And I learned that the best film choice is to go for colour. Although I'm a b&w photo lover, they usually are on a better level over colour photos, except in this case, where I really think the colour photos have much more impact. This subject is about the player's expression and colour, lots of colour
There are few environments with as much color contrast as a hockey rink! The deep black crowds, saturated jerseys, and white ice make color really pop. Thanks for watching!
- Connor
great video and photographs! Kalpa hail from my home town, so I have a moral duty to be a little sad about their loss. I would love to see the photographs in a web gallery of sorts.
If it makes you feel better, KALPA eventually won their series and moved further and are now playing for bronze. That is actually great idea! - Tuomas
Now that was fun. I think we see how/why Canon won over most sports photographers back in day.
Not to rag on Nikon too much, but switching to Nico's EOS-1 for a bit during the 2nd period made me SO jealous. The focus was lightning fast and very confident compared to my F5. I still think I was doing something wrong, but who knows!
- Connor
@@Kamerastore All the old pros would say the same thing and rag on Nikon, it's just funny how this all played out in one outing.
In my own experience shooting with the multiple F5s on G and AF-D lenses, I think you would have had slightly better autofocus performance if you went with something like the AF-D 80-200mm f/2.8, 180mm f/2.8 or 300mm f/4. It makes sense and also doesn't make sense... but the F5 + AF-D lens combo always seemed to me to nail focus better.
Cool video. I can understand why it must be a once in a lifetime experience! ❤❤❤
It was really fun! Thanks for watching.
- Connor
Really interesting to think about how different old journalist photography was done in these types of settings. You need to think about it almost like from a similar point of view of a soldier and if you need to "reload" a new roll, you are risking not being able to shoot if something surprising and worth taking a photo of comes along.
Definitely! Especially when reaching the end of the game or the game goes to overtime which can last who knows how long. - Tuomas