PART 1 of 2 EcoFlow 220w Bifacial Solar Panel Review and Testing
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As of May 2nd it's on sale at Amazon $550
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Thanks but it shows as Currently unavailable on Amazon
I have the Bluetti AC180 which says it takes a max of 10A however the VDC is between 12V and 60V @ 500W max. Would this panel be suitable and operate with the AC180
2 short an two long stakes in the ground an angle some $2 survival blankets behind it
I am very impressed on how very well made this solar panel is. Take my money Ecoflow.
Ecoflow just showed us another game changing solar panel. I love it.
I set up my panels on top of emergency Mylar blankets & it works great. Layout the blankets, secure them down with wooden strips on all of the ends, then set up the EcoFlow 220W Bifacial panels on top.
Nice 👍🏼
What is the difference in output when you added the reflective Mylar blankets vs without them?
Fwiw, mine showed 225w a couple of days ago when connected to a Delta 2. I was pleasantly surprised. Then after an hour without moving it, it showed about 217 minimum. Best I could get tweaking the position was 221.
It being waterproof is a plus. My other branded solar panels are not water proof.
Try the panel backwards and see what you can get from that side. I thought the bifacials can only get a fraction of what the front side can get. Maybe call the "bonus watts" lol
Would be interesting to see it tested against a reflective background (in front of a white wall or something).
I'm thinking on a boat.. With a white deck and reflectiv water in the background..
This video helps me a lot. I didn't think I would need the case for mounting but with my limited patio space, I see the benefits of being able to move it around. It's always helpful, at least for me, to see it in use.
Coming to the party late and didn't read every comment made during the past year so I don't know if anyone mentioned using one or more of those life-saving emergency mylar blankets to use as a reflective surface around the rear of the panel to increase the wattage coming from the back. They are very inexpensive and so thin that they could be folded back up and stuck in the carrying case no problem. I just bought 2 Delta 2 units and 2 of these bifacial panels to use when camping. I'm not going to be carrying large heavy mirrors around with me in the woods, but I'll certainly have some aluminum foil and a couple of those mylar blankets with me on such trips. Could be a very inexpensive way to increase the wattage.
I see you have a part 2 to this review and several people already mentioned using something more reflective to kick start the rear of the panels. Perhaps that was what you review in part 2. I hope so and am going to watch it in a few. Thanks for these informative posts.
I love that doggo
Really good review, but if you'd like to save $550 you can use a cheaper panel with higher wattage and make it compatible for $20. I did a review on it and its saved me a bunch of money.
Yes definitely a ton of options out there, thank you
Using my new 220W EcoFlow panel for the first time charging my drained Delta Max. In the Arizona sun I'm getting between 200-214 watts depending on orientation. **edit** Laying it flat I'm getting about 198 watts.
Try some reflective material on the back side when you put it up in an angle I'm hearing that supposed to work well
The can trick to get a good solar angle is super helpful. Thank you
Awesome vid. I’m sold on the efficiency per square foot value. Also, I am ABSOLUTELY buying Progresso Chicken Soup now.
Love me some chicken soup 😎
Like some others noted, would be a great 2nd video if you can get a rear reflective surface and see if that 190s max goes above 200! That would be a great game changer as a automobile reflective window device is cheap to buy and may use some of that rear 155w better. I subbed to your channel. thx
Thanks
I'm also interested in this, and was confused if that's not the point of bifocal if not using bac at the same time?
Yeah it seems like there should be a video or some kind of information online about that. I can't seem to find anything either but I'm so curious if that would significantly increase the output
It is stated by the manufacturer that the panel will get different power on the back from different reflective surfaces. I bought one the other day and planned to lay an auto sunshade (The reflective silver type) behind it. Have you considered that when the sun is high, not use the kickstand, but instead, somehow lay the panel flat and elevate it a bit so you can take advantage of the backside?
One of the better things is concrete.
I have the 160w EcoFlow solar panel. I think it is a great panel. I am not a huge fan of the case being converted into a stand. Wish it just had the legs like the other brands. The case is absolutely beautiful and well made. The last think I'd really want is it laying in the dirt holding the panel up. I wish this came with a small pouch and the cables weren't so hard and short.
The panel is very well made and seeing it charging with it completely submerged is a huge sell for me!
I agree if I had to choose between the 220 Watt and the 160 Watt I would definitely choose 160 watt panel
@@TechMadeEzywould you still make the same choice for the smaller panel?
@@TechMadeEzythanks for your input I'll buy the 160 panel
Great video and info.
Recently purchased a Delta and a River Max along with two 110w panels.
In the UK I had the two panels in series on the Delta and was pulling in 152w. Not ideal conditions but pleased with the results.
Tempted by this Bifaced 220w panel as both Ecoflow units can take that one panel in. They don't recommend running different panels in series. The 220w would be used at home and the a 110 panel whilst camping.
Thanks RJB
Thanks for this, already got a Delta and looking at solar panels now.
Which delta ?
It seems the bi-facial would be good on a planet with 2 suns. Did the math - better to buy one 400 watt solar panel - equals more power and less expensive
I think the advantage is more watt-per-size vs watt-per-dollar.
@@michaelscalisi4316 Yup
So I have this 220w bifacial and the 400w panels. Between the 2, the 220w bifacial performs better in terms of wattage output efficiency.
Nice
@@TechMadeEzy this panel makes sense but for the delta mini or anything that’s locked to 15 or less amps it’s efficiency is useless so 110/160 panels in series are the best bet.
Thank you for the video! I had picked up an Allpowers 200W and wasn't really happy with it, stumbled on this video and saw that Amazon had it on sale temporarily for around $370 after a coupon (using the camel site they've done this before a few times), immediately jumped on it. This thing is heavy, but I prefer how rigid and durable it is. I plan on repurposing tent poles to use as a stand and cut a piece of tyvek into a reflective surface to place under the panel to maximize the bifacial capability... they should all be able to fit into the case!
Wow $379 is a deal 🔥
@@TechMadeEzythe deal you just posted brought me to this video to check it out!
How did your reflective experiment go? Was it worth the hassle?
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I watched another video re this panel. He was playing with a mirror shining a light on the back side. Interesting concept if somewhat awkward.
They update this panel take a look at this comparison when you have time czcams.com/video/8Yt0A6lHc_I/video.htmlsi=NFvzq_7FNMHteVNf
Nice! Have you tried placing a large mirror or reflective surface behind the panels? They say it could provide up to 80% more wattage.
I don’t have a large or even medium size mirror
I saw a some flexible mirror sheets that are adhesive on Amazon. Could work well for a cheap price. Maybe stick them to a piece of cardboard or plywood?
Great idea
@@TechMadeEzy even some tin foil might work.
How about just a white painted surface behind? White reflects all light spectrum 🤔
I've been trying to find someone to explain if going over Amp but staying under max voltage with these deltas is safe and it just dawned on me! Bifacial so the delta mini (max Amp 10) you just face the 150watt 8 Amp backside upside up! *face palm* its 2 in 1! Literally in the name! 2 of these backside up in series is 300 watt 8.8 Amp max 40ish volt (safe for mini) and flip is upside 440 watt 12 Amp for the max and pro
Thanks for the review! Issues I have with all of these fabric panels is that dogs LOVE TO PEE on solar panels and rain isn't these solar panels' favorite thing. We all know that camping adventures usually means dogs are going to be there. I wish they could find different materials to use on these ultra light solar panel units to be more of a care-free design. Overall, I think this solar panel design is pretty poor. The hard frame designs from others like especially Renogy (I like their partially-hard molded case that's super easy to use,) are true set and forget units that handle the any weather, dog pee, and don't cast shadows upon themselves.
get a cat! :)😀
considering the higher price of this panel for a 220w panel (is putting out barely over 80% at optimum angle) which is only about 10% more efficient than most standard one sided panels operating at about 70% efficiency typical. So paying extra for the "bifacial" side is only getting you 10% better efficiency it seems. I'd luv to drop a blanket on the front side and see what the rear side's total output actually is? Seems gimmicky for an extra 10% efficiency vs the extra price tag.
Picked up my River Pro 2 with the 220 watt panel for $799. Waiting for it to be delivered then I’m on the road.
Congratulations stay in touch. Let me know how it goes.
Great video. Hope I never lose power and need my ECOFLOW generator but feel better now know how to set up the panels. Love your dog!
Thank you, she's in heaven now ❤️
You can build a sun tracker and get the best angle and use it with the refrigerator and see how much it will take to operate it.
Loved the subtle kickstand reference
This is definitely another great solar panel from Ecoflow.
Try a mylar car sun shade .
Oh wow I wish I thought of that Alan!! Thanks appreciate it
Emergency blankets are cheaper, and also reflective. Or aluminum foil wrapped around a large piece of cardboard.
Use a mirror to deflect the sun towards the back of the solar panel and you will get sun on both sides
dude, i neeeed that panel… as long as it will fit on top of my ram quad cab roof. I have 2 100w panels up there right now.
I do not want to be out here in this TX summer setting panels all day, trying for the best angle to catch some extra watts. Once or twice is all I do for my normal mono glass panels, once am and once pm.
I understand, it can be work. Check this video out, I later the panels on a table and left to work czcams.com/video/Oo-b58Zngxw/video.html
These are nice panels, but pricey. I have 2 of them, both purchaced as a bundle and on sale (delta 2 max and river 2 pro). Don't think I would buy them at full price on their own. They seem to be high quality and the portability if you need it is a nice feature.
Would be nice to see how it works with reflective surfaces behind it.
Wish I would have thought about that
i want to ease into solar. I like the portable panels. Wondering about a battery and charge controller though. Not to worried about the inverter for the battery as they are pretty straight forward.
Why not buy an all in one system? Bluetti EcoFlow etc
Excellent video! Your adorable dog is the cherry topping.❤
Thank you, Marie. She’s in heaven now.
@@TechMadeEzy- I am so sorry for your loss. She was a very beautiful girl. I, too, believe we will be reunited with our beloved pets in heaven.
You have an excellant voice, kinda like Alan Alda ish.
Thanks
Your reviews are next level
Daniel really appreciate that, we keep working on getting better for you all
you could set up a long mirror behind it and beam it to the back.
See part 2 and 3 😎
Why do you think the sun can shine on both sides of the same panel? I think if you put the panel at 90 degrees to the sun would give you the most energy.
Maybe try some mirrors on the backside to reflect the sun on the backside.
See part 2 and 3, links are in the description I tried everything
Jeff Goldblum doing solar!
🔥 you know it
Need to keep it simple for beginners.
Is anyone using anything to keep the generator cool? I bought mine because it's crazy hot and there have already been blackouts. The temperature in my apartment in the afternoon can be around 95F and it will be hotter next week.
can you connect two ecoflow 220 bifacial solar panels together with a ecoflow delta max 2000 extra battery included would this encrease the incoming Watts. Great video
Thanks Kevin
The max can handle up to 100v so you can connect up to 4 to of the 220w EcoFlow panels in series
thanks for the info. I've already got a 220 bifacial and it's out performing my 400w panel. Best wishes.
Best wishes to you thanks for your support Kevin
Use highly reflective film paper on a few pieces of plywood it's cheap it's just like mirror you could probably set it up right behind it on its own little kickstand and mirror light right to the back of it
Also, you have to be sure to have the extension cable to keep your Delta
Outta the sun…correct? Or is behind the shade of the panel ok? Thanks!
Get an extra solar cable so you can leave your Delta somewhere maybe on your patio in the shade.
i liked how when i was watching this video a commercial popped on for bluettti.
Yep, same here, they all want your money.
Thanks for the 2-part review... to me it seems though, that the 220W bifacial solar panel has a pretty poor performance compared to my old bluetti sp/pv200 - with that I also got the 180 watts but at a much lower price point...
What if you use a reflector on each side to direct sun to the back of the panel?
You have been very helpful with the reviews of Eco generators. So much so, that I have 2 Delta Max, 2 batteries, 2 River Pro and 2 batteries. Also 3 solar panels. Can you recommend the appropriate length for cables going from the generator to the panels? Keep up the excellent work!!
My pleasure thank you
How far do you need to go? 20ft ?
@@TechMadeEzy Maybe 20-30'.
10awg is fine for that
These always worked well for me amzn.to/3q93CWH
What about using an aluminium sheet to get the other-side voltage?
Great video review! Would love to see a review on the Ecoflow Smart Home Panel…
Clinton thanks
Coming soon, working on install 👍🏼
Excellent! Great work as always…
Thanks
Cool video and bifacial panel. Makes me wonder if it would be possible to direct some light to the backside somehow like maybe a couple of those reflectors people use to sunbath, or even a piece of cardboard covered with foil.
Thanks, Wish I would have thought about that
Oatmeal and eye got distracted by the adorable lab...what is this vid about again?
hello progresso foods, im switching to ramen noodles for 6 months so i can afford the ecoflow panels.
So we don’t use the bottom clips on the stand?
You can but depending on how far you tilt back you might not want to., I've also seen many create their own stands so you don't block the back for more solar.
What if you placed a mirror behind the panel, on the ground, so it can reflect light towards it...?
I wish I thought of that when I did the review
Thank you so much. It is very helpful for me. Totally new to all of it..
Hi Liz my pleasure thank you for watching I hope you stay with us
How do you connect 2 x 220 watt solar panels to Delta1300? exceeding 400 watts?
You probably won't exceed 400 watts because you never get the full wattage of your panels what you want to do is check the voltage if you're connecting in series and make sure you stay under that
Can you hook two of these together in series for 440 watts to charge my delta max.
Yes you can even connect 3 each are 21.8v voc
Never heard of that bi facial, good video as usual
Thanks Ali
You didn't show the cable length. I guess you have to buy cables that have xt60 connectors.
Over $600 later and a handful of uses the panel sustained a spiderweb crack after merely folding one of the panels to put it away. These panels appear not to be able to handle heat stress even though it was not a very hot day in Chicago. On first use, the S/N plate fell off. Totally disgusted.
Call me dense, but I’m having problems with that case/panel support and not sure I have the panel setting securely
Watch this, I will show how it works as a stand
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dumb question... what if you put something reflective behind it like a mirror to shine up underneath?
Nope, good idea actually
If I had it to do over again I probably would have bought eco-flo instead of the blue ETI. But I don't understand this solar panel really my solar panel doesn't have grommets and it's not waterproof what good is it? What am I supposed to do run out in the rain and bring it in I don't get it I don't understand this one either what I need is a really light solar panel that is waterproof so I can keep going on my e-bike
I have the Bluetti AC180 which says it takes a max of 10A however the VDC is between 12V and 60V @ 500W max. Would this panel be suitable and operate with the AC180
Yes you can use 1 of these panels with no issues
How about using something shiney to direct sunlight in the back?
Hi Jeff, Definitely a good idea
Thank you for posting the video but it’s kind of silly to have a bifacial panel if it isn’t mounted the proper height off the ground. Bifacial panels should at minimum be 1 meter off the ground and preferably 2 meters. Mounting them over a surface with a very low albedo doesn’t make much sense either.
These panels are absurdly expensive on a dollar per watt basis as well.
Very good . Love the chicken noodle can part.
Thanks 👍🏼
which cable are you using to connect the solar panels to the EF? Thanks
Which EF do you have? Not all use the same cable
I purchased this panel for my Delta Pro and after 2 weeks of normal usage, the protective sealant is coming off around the panel folding areas as if cheap material was used. Waiting on Ecoflow support to respond. 😞
Wow already? I hope they take care of you quickly
Update?
Ecoflow replaced it. Had to mail back the damaged panel first then they sent me a new panel as a replacement. No issue with it so far
Update... Replacement 220w bifacial has the same issue with the protective film separating from the panel around the folding areas after a day or so of rain fall. I have the 400w panel also and I don't see the same effect on them. Returning the 220w panel. Anyone else have this issue with the 220w even though it's IP68 waterproof?
@@find_me_at5901 wooo, so those foldable panels hates water, i almost bought one for my mini. i bought a small 100W thin panel for 200$ instead. Thanks for sharing your story.
I see you have to many videos for solar and power station generator. I'm asking you what is your favorite solar panel and power station. Thank you.
My favorite id have to say is the delta pro and I use the 400w foldable panels by EcoFlow
@@TechMadeEzy is max 2000 good option for emergencies used. Now is $1400.What you suggest. This or delta 2.Thank you for videos you make.
The advantage the max 2000 has over the delta 2 is it can handle more 2400w vs 1800w and the batteries are larger
2016wh vs 1024wh, I do like that you can connect the max batteries to the delta 2 but the max has 2 expansion slots the delta 2 only 1, of course the huge difference between both is the delta 2. Is LFP so the batteries will last for years longer
@@TechMadeEzy Thanks for your honest answer.
If the 220 reflex's the light off the back. How well would it work on top of a car. If you put it on top of the hood with the back facing the windshield. I'm getting the Cybertruck and would like to see how well something like this would work. Stainless steel could be a great reflector.
It will only take advantage of sun from the one side
Ecoflow they advertise grass sand concrete water Stainless steel is very reflective. @@TechMadeEzy
@@toddbissell4312 we have a video doing some reflection testing coming out in a day or so
I wonder what a light meter, a photographer has, would tell you if anything at all
Would you rather buy 2x 400W panels or 4x 220W panels price is the same
I’d go with the 400w
Thank you for the information and testing✅
Thank you Wanda
I guess I need to call Ecoflow. I just purchased these and they came in a completely floppy bag. Even when I did finally manage to get them to the recommended angle in full sun, they only generated 171 watts max (6 HOURS charge time) - never made it to 220. It has 3 very cheap floppy brackets that don't hold it up and are not reversible. Very dissapointing.😢
Hopefully this video can help you
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If shtf, would this pannel be sufficient to charge the ecoflow?
What would happen if you set a big mirror or 2 behind it 🤔?
Good idea 👍🏼
Amazing that when you actually point it at the sun the power output increases 🙄
4 Brooklyn 👍
Is there a way to make it a "24v"/42-volt panel?
Hi can you use the ecoflow 220w bifacial solar panel with the River 2 ? Thanks in adv
Yes it will support 1 EcoFlow 220w panel since the specs match well
Thanks. River 2 is available tomorrowin RSA. Hoping to purchase one.
Good luck let me know how it goes
Any company that closes doors over black Friday weekend an can't help or answer any questions needs new sells manager?
it is pretty much exactly the same as the 400watt panels bag and design
Can I connect the 160 and 220 together
Hi Roderick, in general you can but the combination won't perform to its peak. Your best best is to always connect similar solar panels. Also, make sure you are in spec with whatever you are connecting it to ( volts amps) or you can damage your equipment.
@@TechMadeEzy I have the old style Delta(OD) like you shown in your videos. I got the 160watt so it's best to buy another 160 to match? Thanks for your time on my questions. Keep the videos coming darn good information 👍
They make 2 versions 1260wh and I believe the other is 1008wh , which one?
@@TechMadeEzy the 1260 that I have
@@TechMadeEzy I have a north point camper I want to go off grid sometimes I would like to double up on power what would you prefer to go along with the 1260wh
to not have kickstands is ridiculous. A real kluge to use a non-rigid case to prop it up!
Oo
Ecoflow 220w ($650) is already sky high inflated / expensive rate
On sale for $550. Amazon
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@pirate thanks good catch 👍🏻
@@piratelestrange thanks for the help, I still see it’s expensive one… maybe the Bluetti’s 250 w is better? I think I will go flexible panels it gives $/w
Bluetti is good also for sure
I love EchoFlow products, but... It looks like a rip off to me. Almost $600 USD??... No bueno 😕 and the standing technic is quite inelegant and not well resolved.
I don’t care about amps, and that, I care about watts! Tell me watts!
Deleing comments, because of Ebay mention. Shame on you..
They are now under $500
I’ve seen $439 so far
Turn the panels fase down. Thanx
$600.00 !!!!!! ???? hello harbor freight tools------- im on my way.