A year on- What's left of the Boleyn?
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- čas přidán 29. 05. 2024
- I went back to Upton Park a year after the final game against Manchester United was played to see how the stadium looks and how the area and it's businesses has been been affected.
With thanks to West Ham Fan TV and Mr West Ham football and all the fans that helped throughout the filming process. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Tottenham Hotspur done it the right way, move to Wembley for a few years then go back to the exact place but on a much bigger scale
too true
Yh,you need to stay in the same postcode. Arsenal did that and so did spurs.
They didn't have to deal with Newham council, bruv. Tight pricks
Yeh like Arsenal. No businesses affected.
You London clubs are actually lucky to have wembley etc., where would the toon go if we ever wanted a rebuild. West Ham missed a trick
Back in the day Green street on a saturday afternoon was a snapshot of working class London in all its glory, the market, the pubs, the street hawkers, the banter up and down the road, the walk from Upton park tube to the ground was a carnival, the chicken run was worth ten points a season, football has been so sterilised now its unrecognisable.
Moving a football club from its local area to some sort of Space Age designed venue, on an out of town Industrial Estate totally devoid of "local character"
is equal to digging up Stonehenge and reassembling it, right next to Heathrow Airport, to make it "easier???" for people to get to.
Organic Kevin spot on mate, my club Derby County play in a commercial estate surrounded by car shops, our old ground was nestled in the middle of terraced houses and a foundry on one side with foundry smoke blowing over the ground, that’s how we liked it.
@Martin England fans voice their concerns and more often than not, owners refuse to listen to them. My club, Nottingham Forest, actually listened and have made plans to redevelop part of our ground instead of knocking it down and moving to some miserable industrial estate.
That could not have been better put, Kevin
Like Man Utd 😀
They sold your soul for greed. Been to Upton Park many times great atmosphere great fans feel honoured to have been there on a match day.
Never be the same again
Watching this makes me sad, and I am not a West Ham fan, neither do I live in London, but I can just feel the sadness, disappointment and frustration of the fans living in the neighbourhood
Im not a hammer supporter either and i dont live in london
But i do a gree with u about the frustration
BUT
Westham fc became a massive football club by the years and with that situation they need to sort it out how to grow with the changes
Cos that the majority of it
And if they cant do that well thats a shame
But i know with the fab new stadium
LONDON STADIUM they'll make it
They were really close making a glory history winning europa league 21 22 season but they'v lost at the semi final to eintracht frankfurt
Give them a chance
And to all hammers
Uv got a great football club keep it comming and keep it real
West Ham should have been re-generated they could have rented London stadium for 2 years and then moved back to where they belong. Such a shame.
@Luis Tschurtschenthaler THESAME REASON COVENTRY CITY DID.........................SHORT TERM PROFIT FOR THE BASTARDS WHO SIT ON THE BOARD.SO NOW WEST HAM ARE RENTING ...FINE NOW.........WHEN THE PORN GANG HAVE MILKED WEST HAM DRY WHUFC WILL BE SHARING A GROUND WITH DAGENHAM AND REDBRIDGE. WEEP FOOTBALL
that would have been the best
They wanted to build up the East Stand. However because there was a bus garage to close was deemed not allowed. Suddenly that garage has gone and it could have been done.
Gold and Sullivan done it for profit moving West Ham.
yeah like spurs did, we could have rented for few seasons till upton park was refutbished or a new stadium built on upton park ,then move back.
Agreed London clubs are lucky they have that option
Sign up for season ticket at West Ham and you'll get a free pair of binoculars
I really feel sorry for the pub owners. A long tradition is gone. With all this great surrounding around a football match.
As a Villa fan who lives in London I've been to lots of Villa games away at Upton Park. I will forever miss that ground. Fantastic atmosphere.
Are you sure you thought you was at Villa Park because of the colours
@@psycoticbastard villa park is a lot more majestic than that london shithole stadium boleyn.
muhammad miah both have character no one cares how majestic a ground is you bender
naxiMu miah Majestic? Villa Park? Is that a Joke? There’s only one side of the Ground that’s nice on the outside, the rest is Concrete and Cheap Steel cladding.
@@claretandbluearmy8014 are you West Ham claret & blue or Villa claret & blue
Still go to the Boleyn for a pre match drink. And then get a cab to the ground
Is there still a decent amount of people in there?
Thank god we stayed at Anfield.
You lot did the right thing
Too right
Yep. This is an Anfield. It means something. The memory of all the people who went there as fans, the players, the trophies...
I always thought it was silly decision to leave the Boleyn, visited the ground once as an away fan and it felt like a proper home of football. Traditional cafes, bars and atmosphere which is no longer about. Sad to watch. I’m glad as a Liverpool fan the board decided to redevelop Anfield instead of moving elsewhere
Guess just about every WHU fan feels sadness re Upton Park....but not enough by a country mile. Were I able to breathe life back into my dad, my grandparents, my aunties & uncles...sit them down & inform them that the Boleyn was no more then each & every one would weep for sure...uncontrollably. For the ground itself & the community at large, for sure...but more so at the grade of supporters that could have ever allowed it to happen.
@Gill Simo..Spot On Gill.
Basically RIP West ham 😣
" fans revel in their new modern arena". Do your research Liam. We loved the Boleyn, we loved our local traders, we loved our community. The Dildo Brothers sold our identity and soul.
Must be gutting for the fans. Don't know why they just didn't refurbish the old one and add an extra 10,000 seats or whatever.
because they got one of the biggest stadiums in england and europe for basically free of charge
@@DarksoldierAndroidGaming And they did that because owners only care about the money.
No room for expansion in Upton Park, too hemmed in. West Ham fans were sold the lie that more seats = more revenue = better players = silverware. And now look at them - they'll be a championship club long before they win a first-class trophy.
💰👈 😥
It was possible to redevelop the East Stand aka the Chicken run to a double decker stand. That's what real fans wanted.
However the fans were told they couldn't do it because it was to close to a bus garage and they couldn't build above the flats. Ironically the bus garage has gone and the new build flats on the ground have been built above the flats.
Basically all lies by GSB and the council.
Now businesses like Nathan's pie and mash, Kens cafe, the boleyn pub etc have shut, because of this dodgy deal to regenerate an area.
So do sad to see this, a proper traditional English ground in the heart of the community, now in a shitty soulless bowl all for greed, if Blackburn mover from ewood it would be an empty sad feeling passing by ewood park so I really feel for the hammers fans and the locals such a shame should have stayed and developed
No new modern ground is worth moving from your roots and traditional home for
Callum Atkins respect, anyone who mocks West Ham’s new stadium and atmosphere does not love football
Great small documentary
Must confess, as someone who's followed English football for 50+ years, never knew it was called The Boleyn. Always knew it as Upton Park. Only visited once, for an evening match. Great atmosphere.
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Its heartbraking as a blackburn fan i know what its like to have the soul ripped out of your club
God bless you all keep safe
Really enjoyed watching this, good to see what it's done to the local area and getting a different perspective. So so sad 😔⚒
I was 4 years old when my dad first took me I was passed over the turnstyle by all the fans and had to wait for my dad to come though. Is one of my first memories standing there waiting for my dad everything looking so big. Can't remember who we played but I know we won 2 1. I only got to go once or twice a year but I miss it nothing compared to the atmosphere at Upton park.
They should've builder on the stands which were short, and made upper stands for them.
What's the point of moving to vocal point Stratford when you had Upton Park for over 100 years, causing now more traffic.
First went to West Ham in 1980 friend of mine had been a season ticket holder for a number of years up until this season. Been a few times over the years,and I gotta say what a great day out,coming down on the train from Grimsby or in his van.In the pub then on to the match fantastic atmosphere.Been once to the new stadium very impressive I must say, but nothing like the atmosphere of Upton Park.
West Ham United 1895-2016 RIP
These football club owners never once cared about the local businesses, just to line their own pockets further. I have no connection with West Ham, but I do feel for the fans, it’s awful. The heart has been ripped out the place.
Well Brady is a Tory so can't be surprised.
Thanks to Gold Sullivan and Brady, who have no doubt done very well out of the move!
Yes indeed they pay 2540000 per year to rent the stadium. Other clubs have had to buy their stadiums
In typical Tory fashion
A football club belongs to it's community and the community is what gives a football club its identity.
A club should never move away from its home.
I could never imagine my club, Rangers, ever playing anywhere else other than Ibrox. It would break my heart if Rangers were ever to play anywhere else.
Going to a Hammers game back in the early 70's was always a highlight of any season. Great exciting games, always on the attack. No BS tactics. Sorry they've lost their identity.
Sad to see the old ground disappear, went early 90s with Newcastle, brilliant atmosphere, football just isn't the same these days, hear n soul all gone
only been to game once there in mid 90s ; walking down Green street outside on way to & from Boleyn was like being in Karachi or similar ; seemingly lot of the fanbase is from essex innit
As a Leeds fan, I'm glad we're revamping Elland Road. Condolences for your loss, West Ham.
Brilliant stuff mate
Ewan hail hail the celts are here
THATS SO SAD AND EMOTIONAL SEEING WHATS HAPPENED TO THE OLD GROUND
" West Ham fans REVEL in their new stadium" NO THEY DO NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
iT'S AN ATHLETICS TRACK NOT A FOOTBALL STADIUM...
one of my fave away games venues ,always great pubs n clubs in that area too ,sad to see it even though new stadium is amazing
I used to work at the Boleyn on matchdays and it was a brilliant atmosphere. I'm not a WHUFC supporter but I always appreciated the stadium and the general surrounding built environment. Very sad.
Flickering Ember I also worked there between during FA cup season 75 -76 gray times even had my picture taken with the FA cup. Great memories
I’ve been saying this for a while now. This new shit soulless athletics bowl WILL NOT WORK. No one I know enjoys coming to watch football at this London stadium even when we are winning! I am predicting in the near future we should be able to buy the London stadium from E20 as they are going out of business as we speak. After we purchase the ground we should demolish it and rebuild a ground similar to upton park in its place. A proper ground with stands close to the pitch, maybe even an exact replica of upton park but with a larger capacity of 45K max. I am hoping all this can happen within the next 20 odd years so I can actually enjoy coming to my local club to watch my team. IMO this is the only solution for west ham if it wants to maintain its rich history and tradition of a proper football club. COYI ⚒⚒⚒
So sad. At least when Roker Park closed we didn’t move far. Gutted for the locals and fans. it"ll take time to build new memories so keep the faith.
West Ham haven't exactly reached new heights on and off the field though have they.
If this only was valid for West Ham. Unfortunately it is not. Most clubs have gone this way or are on track to go the same way.
Same at Man City when they moved from Maine Road , just so Manchester could have the commonwealth games, that said they were really good and it showed the establishment that events could be well run outside London. Why Main Road could not of been kept I don't know went to loads of games there . New grounds have no atmosphere compared to the old ones.
Everton with Goodison Park...
I support Man Utd, but I sympathise with Hammers Fans. I'd be gutted if we ever left Old Trafford. Wouldn't be the same. All best at the London Stadium.
I'm gutted for you lot, been many times to Upton park great away day watching Liverpool. Used to frequent a little social club around the corner before kick off. Who ever had the idea to move needs stringing up!
Well made video, similar to what 90min do. You should make more.
Sold our biggest asset to rent a soulless bowl out of nothing more then greed. Great vid 👍
Sold one of the most atmospheric football grounds in the world ,doubled attendances at a soulless bowl 3 miles away. You decide?
Sadly it’s the motto of today : Money over People.
The thing that i love about english football is their stadiums, without fcking atletics sh*t, close to the pitch, dream for every football supporter. As a West Ham fan from Balkan, even tho i never been on a boleyn ground, i cried when i heard that they will crush it. Such a shame ruining club like that. Hearthbreaking...
(Sorry for bad english)
I’m in Australia and went back in 2009 and stayed with my old man overnight at the ground. In the morning after a gigantic breakfast, they gave us a free tour of the stadium and dressing rooms and after we went to Nathan’s and washed it that down with a couple at The Boleyn. I spent 75% of my life in Green Street and surrounds and now if I come home I’m not going to that soulless bowl. I’ll go to Nathan’s and The Boleyn with my old man but its so sad to even watch this. In some ways I don’t want to come home because at least I’ve still got my memories. Anyway.....😢⚒
Si Beex mate they have wrecked our club... If you go back now I'd be surprised if Nathan's is still going as about a month ago they said they didn't know if they could carry on... That new ground is an athletics stadium and will never be anything else.... Our club is dead 🛠
Lewis Dowsett I know mate. We never needed to move, it was just greed and as soon as we moved it’s been nothing but lies. It’s not the club we knew mate⚒
Si Beex...I’m a Luton ex hooligan...too old now mate. These money men have destroyed real football. These new stadiums are shite. Soulless arena for the most passion sport. It’s sick. We should somehow reclaim our game. If only dreams could be reality eh mate. Coventry Sunderland...why the fuck would anyone into real football move from those brilliant cranky old stadiums into a blueprint plastic and concrete dull stadium that won’t last 20 years before falling apart. It’s the fucking money men who don’t get us but get OUR money and tell us it’s OUR club. FUCK THEM for ruining communities.
And what’s “safe standing” about? Last time I checked I was quite educated in my “standing knowledge”. I haven’t fallen over once today yet!
Jamis Ins Ha, ha, good onya for still standing mate. You’re absolutely dead right. It breaks my heart mate, the ritual of it, the mates before a game, the odd scrap maybe, the sights and smells, all of it was part of a community. We all came together for the same thing. Didn’t matter if you were packed like sardines, it was all part of the rush. Us Hammers have always been more about the pride and passion of the players than the result. Of course we always want to win but if we lost 3-2 and it was a great day out, then so be it. Times have definitely changed my friend ⚒
Si Beex...community mate. The powers that be like to divide don’t they. The rave scene...I was living with exudes and Spiral Tribe which was proper freedom. A report today...funnily enough but I do keep up with this stuff...says that 60% of adults now feel overwhelmed by life. That’s mental...no joke either. I’m a musician and couldn’t do nothing else. I cannot imagine how most people cope. It’s nit fair. And then they take our hearts out. And now we blame the Muslims for this. Directing blame...these rich bastards are very good at this. I guess I am what the authorities would call an extremist. Common sense and decency to me mate. I doubt any WHU fan would want to stay at that new stadium. May be wrong? I’d prefer the old stadium. And every old stadium...seriously can’t think of a new one I’d rate o er an old one. Stoke have been mauled. The most open stadium we gave. It’s boring. Their old stadium was a battle ground. Stoke...proper fans too.
i am a toon fan ii find this very touching, and sad, west ham fans have been lead down by a council who have took backhanders from private busines , greed , i didnt know that west ham got turned down off the council,it makes more anger, the west ham in this vid couldnt said it better and for all the west ham fans, THE SOUL THE BUZZ EVERYTHING HAS GONE FROM YTHE AREA, HE COULDNT BE MORE RIGHT, UP THE HAMMERS
West Ham fans where sold a dream when they moved to the Olympic stadium, but its has'nt turned out that way. Sullivan and Gold have alot to answer for destroying the traditions of
that club and the small businesses that relied on the fans for their income.
No team should leave there ground.
I'd hate to see my beloved Manchester united leave old trafford.
They promised the badge wouldn't change, they promised the seats would be no further from the pitch, they promised fixtures wouldn't be interfered with to accommodate athletics and they promised a stadium that no other could rival (the biggest lie of the lot). Now the stadium is devoid of atmosphere because a large percentage of attendees are day trippers to London from around Europe and want to spend the 90 minutes taking selfies and texting their friends (like Man Utd "fans"). A year after the move, the bus garage at the back of the East Stand (the only reason for not being able to extend Upton Park massively) was closed. It stinks.
Couldn't be more wrong the area will flourish. What would the pub owner prefer a few hundred fans flock into her pub once every 2 weeks and that's just during the football season or thousands of new potential customers in the newly build flats on the old West Ham site. We need to move on COYI
So sad to see. Grew up watching football right there
Is there any soul at new ground compared to the boelyn
It suddenly became the 'BOLEYN ' for the last six months...... prior tothat for many many decades it was Upton park ......even the muggiest west ham fan cant deny that
What we all got to realise is change is a horrible thing to accept, but it is necessary...Everything changes.
As a Saints fan i loved the away day to Upton Park. Done two games at the new ground and that's me. Awful stadium for football. The only time back there moving forward will be for large concerts i suppose. Such a shame.
I wonder what a mass walk out wud do to the board mid game this season.. Motd would have to show it.. But wud try not to
Not my team but West Ham were a proper team with proper fans
So sad that Nathan's is no longer open...
Looks like not only have local businesses lost out , but the west ham badge has lost the castle to . The Olympic stadium is way to big , no atmosphere, fans loo to far away. I went to the ground back in 86, loved feeling the passion and love by the hammers supporter, it's gone now sadly.
Is the pub still there?
Sadly no.
Wow, I am upset for westham fans and those small businesses.
When you look at the spot where the old Ajax stadium was, it is a sorry sight. Another dull building project where nothing reminds you of the glory and passion of the past. I hope yours goes better !
Nathans closed May 2018
😦
Gutted to hear that even though I’m in Australia now. Used to go there regularly. Sad all that history is gone they should just rebuilt
bet the Carpenters Arms is making a mint!
Stoke city left victoria ground, the pub that the fans had a beer in , gone
It'll take like 20 years for West Ham fans to get used to The London Stadium.
I'm not sure, but could not someone build an organization that would generate some form interest, and advertisement in order to reminisce and to help the old community of Upton Park? To divert fans back in order to frequent these business after each Olympic Stadium event? Would this not be a step in the right direction? We need to keep history and modern struggling society alive.
eddyvideostar like what exactly?
Problem is many fans were no longer from that area (90% ) and after another poor performance at The Rented Athletics Track in the pouring winter rain it would hard for them to take the diversion when they want to go home.
Is it such an inconvenience to go to the old places you supposedly care so much about before making your way to the new stadium? It is only 3 miles away.
Money and timmate... It's expensive and depending on where you're coming from inconceivable
Money and time mate... It is an inconvenience
Demolition Timelapse of Upton Park Stadium and Bus Garage | Erection of New Estate: czcams.com/video/KITeg_i-N3A/video.html
They said local businesses would suffer when they moved .
5:01 Hammers Social Club now a mosque!
Good good...all antisocial behaviour and vandalisam stopped now ....now is the paradise to live there ...before it was hell
For me the poor West Ham fans have had to stand by and watch their club destroyed, West Ham United have had their heart and soul ripped out, shameful, sadly that is modern day football for you
Remember all the West Ham fans clowning Spurs supporters over getting the Olympic Stadium? Well who's laughing now....
They don't care about us.
This is really sad.
shame we left,cant get it back now, rental stadium cant call it our own , spuds did well build their own stadium at white hart lane , best way really
fucking terrible, been a west ham for all my life (as well as my grandparents and parents) and it’s all different now. still literally cry about it sometimes
Sad that.
I thought it was called Upton park
Give yourself a slap and watch the video
It's 2020 guys! We now have Upton Gardens, a bunch of thrown together flats for people to buy! All the flats that will produce Council Tax revenue! Yay!
Meanwhile, West Ham are in a shite ground too big to be called a ground, we're nowhere near the pitch, we can't even be heard so the venue (and that's all it is) actually plays cheering sounds on the PA system to make it sound like people are there. No wonder we're doing worse than usual. We're not there egging them on. Because we're a few hundred yards away just in case someone wants to do the 400 meter run. Yay.
It’s so sad to see,especially the local businesses and boozers.But we all know it’s all about fuckin pound notes at the end of the day,the clubs don’t give a shit about the fans etc,all there bothered about is money!another soulless bleedin stadium,void of atmosphere selling shit pies for £5 and even worse booze for even more!im mufc and it’s the same at it,even though we’ve not moved the atmosphere has gone,makes me sick!
East London’s second team
IRONS
The move that killed the club
1:09 "whilst fans revel in their modern arena" if by revel you mean complain about what a shit hole it is !
Up the Moyes 😂😂
this just proves that money is killing football no matter want team you support its killing football tradition
If I was to be a future owner I would give back that toilet seat stadium and built back a Boleyn. Owners robbed us
I stopped watching arsenal in 2002, as they announced they would leave highbury
Never watched them since, and i know how you feel
For me, arsenal was highbury, and i was proved right
People running football have no idea
Just glad that liverpool never left anfield, they showed there is at least one team that understood what its stadium meant for its team.
So i know what you feel like you west ham fans, leaving upto park you will never be the same team again. It was such a tight ground.
Highbury was also like this, and had a far smaller pitch then most big teams, and meant the crowd was virtually on the pitch
You people at utpon park had similar thing, where upton park was in your community, and was who you people were from that area of london.
I stopped watching arsenal, and never will watch them again, have not since 2002.
At least highbury was immortalised in the film fever pitch, with what we did in 1989. Most teams do not have a film about there team, so they cannot have those memories.
So i agree with you west ham fans who regret you left your stadium
I stopped watching arsenal 4 years before they left highbury, and do not care about them today, as for me arsenal that i loved do not exist anymore. I just totally divorced from the team in 2002.
You people whoi saw upton park will always remember the games you had there, and its gone forever. Same as highbury
Just glad for liverpool fans anfield is still there, as a thing that represents the liverpool fans, and there team. What happened in anfield can never be brought somewhere else.
Highbury is gone, and so is my love for arsenal. But if i want i can always watch the film fever pitch to remember the highbury we all knew.
Most teams did not have a film made about what they did.
Upton park was a wonderful place for you people, and its disgusting what your new stadium is like
The football fan has been turned into consumers, and football will loose its soul.
This is so sad
Upton Park gets the most attention because it’s the first big ground to close in the internet era, this is not unique, it’s a nationwide problem and it’s fucking shit for every fan involved.
West Ham doesn’t own the business a living
Hard to explain the atmosphere and the Cockney wit of the old "Chicken Run." A few feet from the pitch, everyone standing shoulder to shoulder. The team made up of mostly local players. Football in general has gone steadily downhill as a working class pastime since then. The premier league teams have very little local identity now. Foreign owners, foreign managers, foreign players, exorbitant prices, soulless stadia. That's progress?
No one cares about fans. Now about 25 clubs have moved to new grounds ....many a fair walk out of the town they represent. It'll get worse.
philip paine believe me mate, as a derby fan it’s horrible having to get the bus to the game
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 bring back baseball ground a proper ground in the heart of the city.
Pride park is a industrial estate with a football ground.
Money over fans im sad to say
@@bencutts2807 The baseball ground was nestled between terraced housing, railway lines and Ley's Iron foundry. It perfectly represented Derby's strong history of industry, pride park perfectly represents that all our former glory has been replaced with car dealerships and office blocks. Industrial Derby is no more and neither is the baseball ground sadly.
Places like pubs and food places only 3miles away 3miles away god sake
Fish bowl?