Sailor’s Debrief 102 - Farr 56 sinks during the Antigua to Bermuda Race

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  • čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
  • In this episode we will take a deep dive into the actions the crew performed to save their own lives. It will be clear that the Safety at Sea courses, Race Regulations and safety preparation made a major difference in rescuing this crew during the race. World Sailing provides Offshore Special Regulations, the standards of safety www.sailing.org/our-sport/wel.... These standards are based on lessons learned form incidents and are written by the foremost sailing safety experts in the world. We encourage every sailor to take the Safety at Sea in the water training. Each Country has a sailing organizing authority which can be found in the world sailing page. Look it up and sign up for a class. Once you have the certificate, make sure that you let your insurance company know as you will most likely receive a discount. The certificate lasts for five years so the cost savings on the insurance pays for the training.
    Lastly, please understand that the painter line for the lift raft does not work very well on a winch. This is important to understand because the sea anchor, in combination to the can apply working like a sail, may make it difficult to reel in the raft. As you pay out the painter in the raft, take up the slack to keep the raft close.
    Watch more of the rescue here • Sauvetage Monterey Thanks Max and Gille
    #offshoresailing #boat #boating #sailing #offshorecitizen #boatlife #spinlock #worldsailing #
    Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.
    This video Contains
    00:00 intro
    00:30 background of boat/crew
    01:10 events timeline
    01:25 press conference
    02:00 uncontrolled flooding
    03:00 flares launched
    03:30 abandon ship
    04:40 Volvo Ocean 60 to the rescue
    05:05 lessons learned
    06:00 manual pumps and mechanical
    06:40 through hole maps
    08:30 practice dewatering and damage control
    08:45 three teams in a sinking vessel
    09:45 how to get in a life raft
    10:20 ditch bag requirements
    10:43 dewatering options
    11:25 Safety at Sea Courses saves lives
    12:15 complex and controlled emergencies
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Komentáře • 63

  • @paulbriant2067
    @paulbriant2067 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Saying that The Bermuda Triangle caused this yacht to sink is nothing but click bait.

    • @dyslexiusmaximus
      @dyslexiusmaximus Před 4 měsíci +2

      Hate the game not the player

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yes..this is true, but we are not exploiting persons for clicks. Only those who believe there is a cause and effect dealing with the Triangle! Please give us advice as we did struggle over the thumb nail, what would you advise? Our primary goal is safety at sea. How was the rest of the content?

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Did you note the actual footage in the notes and card in the 9th minute?

    • @dyslexiusmaximus
      @dyslexiusmaximus Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@ministryofsailing The thumbnail is fine and the video is very informative. Everyone on youtube uses "click bait" it's the new norm. If you don't also use it then your videos will get less views. This video has integrity and the more people who view it the better. keep doing what you're doing and don't worry about the haters.

    • @jamesstrom6991
      @jamesstrom6991 Před měsícem

      jfc are you serious ? No rational person thinks that from the title.

  • @richardelliott8352
    @richardelliott8352 Před měsícem +1

    glad to hear all are safe. live and learn doesn't work if you can't manage the stay alive part of learning from mistakes. there is no safe substitute for experience at sea.

  • @timothyknight2236
    @timothyknight2236 Před 4 měsíci +7

    My guess is that they hit a semi-submerged shipping container. They are more common than you would think in that part of the sea.................

  • @Dryer_Safe
    @Dryer_Safe Před 4 měsíci +3

    I don't know the details of the Farr 56 sailboat, but a lot of boat manufacturers today are using "pan construction", completely blocking access to parts of the hull.
    So I would add to this video the conclusion "Never go offshore in a boat where you don't have access to every single part of the hull".
    Again, no idea if Farr 56 is built this way or not, so it's not a dig at this boat.

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci +2

      I believe this was a pan built boat. And although this could have been a contributing factor, the water intrusion had a 45 minute head start. Depth of the water at that point made it difficult to see the inside of the hull. We recommend using a basic rubber mats for damage control. With a few strips of wood and screws, one can make significant progress in preventing intrusion of water. The mats also can mold around a pan rib if needed.

  • @CaptainRon1913
    @CaptainRon1913 Před 3 měsíci +2

    A forward facing sonar that alarms before you feel and hear the big bang could help also. Sounds like they hit a partially submerged container.

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 3 měsíci

      Correct this is possible now. We need to develop training around these devices as well. The problem is with many performance boats, (over 30 knots) there wont be a lot one can do to avoid.

  • @BrotherHoodofTheDogxix
    @BrotherHoodofTheDogxix Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you, great vid.

  • @TerryKeever
    @TerryKeever Před 4 měsíci +2

    There are adapters for many handheld VHF raidios to connect to your base's antenna. I used one at times doing SAR on land.

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks, Offshore Special Regulations have this as a requirement in some offshore races.

  • @rosegoldlifehacks
    @rosegoldlifehacks Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great video!!!

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks. It’s our hope that you can use this for you and those you sail with. Where do you sail?

  • @FredPegley
    @FredPegley Před 4 měsíci +1

    There are always things to think about. Thanks…

  • @davidzaharik5408
    @davidzaharik5408 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Another great video with excellent commentary.

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci

      We appreciate your comments. Thanks for watching. Our goal is safety. Where do you sail?

    • @davidzaharik5408
      @davidzaharik5408 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@ministryofsailing We had a aluminum sailboat built in northern France, a Boréal 47 and sailed it around the European west coast into the Med, then the Canary Islands for Antigua... through the Caribbean, up into the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico and the Bahamas... then covid struck and we high tailed it to Ft Lauderdale, packed up and had our sailboat shipped to Vancouver BC Canada in May of 2020.... been here since. Kinda messed up our adventure but nice having her here now exploring all the BC coast.

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@davidzaharik5408 sorry your dream was crushed.. keep sailing, it keeps you you g

    • @davidzaharik5408
      @davidzaharik5408 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ministryofsailing Thanks man

  • @BobClements-wy7mc
    @BobClements-wy7mc Před 4 měsíci +2

    On a vhf set, if you push the ch16 button, it automatically switches to high power.

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci

      Often, overseas they use other local channels. But it all worked out in the end. Remember, the throw of the radio is line of sight and a hand held on the deck has less of a throw.

  • @GlobetruthFU
    @GlobetruthFU Před 4 měsíci +3

    $100,000 worth of electronics and can't install a $100 bilge alarm.
    How hard is it to have a bilge alarm high in the bilge?

  • @martineyer5336
    @martineyer5336 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Poor guys. Now that is a proper skipper 👍

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching, your comment leads me to think you watched 101. I appreciate it.

    • @martineyer5336
      @martineyer5336 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@ministryofsailing yes I had and man that “skipper” should be put in jail for being completely clueless😂

  • @zonzeven
    @zonzeven Před 4 měsíci +5

    The narration at 11:01 : ..... at the rate of 3,200 gallons per minute ....
    Even the fire brigade would have a problem with that standard :)
    And please, stop the nonsense about the Bermuda triangle.

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci +2

      We scrolled the word oops in there and corrected it with text, we are very happy that you watched this and we hope you found some of it useful. Sorry about the BT. We struggled with it, but figured that most people would understand it had nothing to do with it. Although, I saw Bigfoot last week…. It was the same day I saw a ufo!

    • @zonzeven
      @zonzeven Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@ministryofsailing
      Thank you for the answer. The video was very interesting and I give it a thumb up, subscribed to your channel.

  • @MrLagrims
    @MrLagrims Před 4 měsíci +4

    Another POV of the event : czcams.com/video/YXL94oOkqvs/video.htmlsi=eJHpLdWuOys58rvz
    Glad we there on time. Made such great friends on this occasion. Every time we make a stopover in Bermuda now it calls for a reunion with the EDCIV and Monterrey crew ;)

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci +3

      Max, I am so happy that you were there as well. The efforts we all make for safety can often go understated. Your teams' actions are truly heroic, and my hat goes off to you. I really like as you are approaching Monterey, you reminded you team to secure themselves first, before they help someone else. Its so important not to become the second victim. Then two years later we meet when I was on the V65 and we barged you at the start. I think I owe you a beer for that one. Thanks for your comment and following. Episode 103 will be a sad case we can all learn from.,, last tragedy from the Newport Bermuda.

    • @MrLagrims
      @MrLagrims Před 4 měsíci +3

      Always a pleasure John ;) Looking forward to that beer and catching up on sailing.
      @@ministryofsailing

  • @sarcasmunlimited1570
    @sarcasmunlimited1570 Před 4 měsíci +3

    The only thing that's unique to the Bermuda Triangle is that for the last 75 years there have been a few reports of clouds of millimeter sized bubbles rising upwards, possibly from the the ocean floor. A boat's weight might exceed the weight of the oxygenated water under it, and sink. But this probably can't explain the loud bang.
    One thing that can explain a loud bang is a collision with an object, even a log or a piece of wood that might have got torn off a dock during a storm, and this could even have some metal edges or nails protruding from it.

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci

      It could have been something biological too. Thanks for your comment.

    • @sarcasmunlimited1570
      @sarcasmunlimited1570 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ministryofsailing
      For sure. Just recently it has been alleged that a family yacht was sunk by Orca's off the coast of Portugal.
      It's probably still on some YT channel, if you are interested.

    • @ThePatgilbert
      @ThePatgilbert Před 4 měsíci

      Thank for so nicely explain it ,i wanted post such resume myself ,you did it better than,i am currently with 9 North Pacific yacht delivery,one florida to guam,one australia to japan ,150 deliveries within japanese waters ,numerous asia yacht deliveries,europe to japan ,and many more,i would say seen it all and storm trash at sea ,bad conditions yacht that no one would deliver i did it handle it ,etc etc ,one must always be prepared for the worse scenario.

  • @sarcasmunlimited1570
    @sarcasmunlimited1570 Před 4 měsíci +2

    It's a bridge too Farr to conclusively solve this.

  • @BobClements-wy7mc
    @BobClements-wy7mc Před 4 měsíci +1

    Why did they not use the AIS emergency button to alert the other boats?

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci

      The handheld did not have one.

    • @BobClements-wy7mc
      @BobClements-wy7mc Před 4 měsíci

      but you said they had AIS running and could see other boats. Hitting the AIS distress on your AIS or plotter sends out an AIS distresss signal to the other boats. Has nothing to do with VHF.@@ministryofsailing

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn Před 4 měsíci

      @@BobClements-wy7mc AIS transmitters and receivers can be different functions.

  • @svsalserenity4375
    @svsalserenity4375 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Do you have any idea what you ran into?

  • @seawench555
    @seawench555 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Do they know what they hit?

  • @toddlong8672
    @toddlong8672 Před 4 měsíci +4

    It should read incompetence sinks boat in Bermuda triangle

    • @ministryofsailing
      @ministryofsailing  Před 4 měsíci

      Not really, I think there are shifts that people just get tired. But the speed of the vessel filling up was fast. She was gone in hours, for a 56 foot, that’s a lot of volume. Because of this incident, the OSR s require a 3200 gPH minimum now.

    • @toddlong8672
      @toddlong8672 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@ministryofsailing or regulations, or not, pumps should always be sized for the size of the vessel, any jackass knows that. Blame the triangle if that's where you logic leads you. I blame the captain