STOP Buying Fake CAT Tourniquets

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  • čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
  • Please stop buying Chinese toys to defend your self against bleeding out. It appears that most of the CATs on Amazon and Ebay are fakes.
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  • @SkinnyMedic
    @SkinnyMedic  Před 5 lety +17

    Buy from here: medicalgearoutfitters.com/collections/tourniquets-holders/products/gen-7-combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t

    • @franktall7705
      @franktall7705 Před 5 lety +1

      SkinnyMedic: I have a fake, how do I get a free real one? 😂🤪

    • @og8403
      @og8403 Před 5 lety

      SkinnyMedic any promo codes?

    • @myadventuresincooking6331
      @myadventuresincooking6331 Před 5 lety

      Is the recon medical tq good

    • @johnsexsmith9298
      @johnsexsmith9298 Před 5 lety

      The Red Cross also sells them as well and St. Johns Ambulance.

    • @ThompsonJosh98
      @ThompsonJosh98 Před 4 lety +1

      If you would ship to Canada I would but 300 dollars of gear off of you. But now I have to get it off of Amazon and hope that my Israeli bandage and cat are real

  • @kevinlin7674
    @kevinlin7674 Před 7 lety +262

    I've read several paramedics unaware of carrying counterfeit CAT in the fields, and the windlass snapped while trying to stop the bleeding. There should be strict laws on counterfeiting medical products as this is a device that decides life and death.

    • @AWDfreak
      @AWDfreak Před 7 lety +18

      Seriously. It's sickening that there are counterfeit, inferior-quality products out there designed to deceive those purchasing them as products designed to save lives but due to their lower quality will become a serious liability in a life-or-death situation.

    • @crazyirishmedic9535
      @crazyirishmedic9535 Před 7 lety +16

      kevin lin I am an EMT and had legit CATs fail on me, I know they were legit because they were direct from the the local military base.

    • @SlimeBoy1231
      @SlimeBoy1231 Před 6 lety +3

      yeah, i agree, it makes me sick that people are counterfeiting something that is meant to save lives, this is not something to be taken lightly.

    • @1617raerae
      @1617raerae Před 6 lety

      I have some from the army as well and they look like they might be fakes. They say CAT on the back but on the plastic arm, they dont have CAT written on them.

    • @celpa3151
      @celpa3151 Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah, yeah, more laws, MOAAR!
      Just let's stop using capitalism, no "more laws" needed.

  • @loonytik25
    @loonytik25 Před 7 lety +80

    The problem here is two-fold. One - it is becoming increasingly difficult to identify a "fake" on Amazon. The seller states they are real, legitimate CAT tourniquets. The seller also changes on the same posting depending on stock. You could buy a real CAT today from Amazon and tomorrow the seller would be different and it would be a fake.
    Two - North American Rescue charges $8.00 ground and $12.00(2 day shipping) to ship that tiny tourniquet to my address. That alone will drive people to Amazon with free Prime Shipping. I realize price should not be a factor with your life but, in the real world people consider shipping cost. It should cost about $2.00-$4.00 max to ship that tourniquet.

    • @SkinnyMedic
      @SkinnyMedic  Před 7 lety +27

      I charge $29.99 with free shipping for a Gen 7 :-)

    • @mangudai1987
      @mangudai1987 Před 7 lety +10

      That's why you only buy from reputable dealers.... like skinny medic.

    • @loonytik25
      @loonytik25 Před 7 lety +15

      Reputable dealers? You mean like North American Rescue, the ones who make the tourniquet? They sell on Amazon too:
      www.amazon.com/North-American-Rescue/b/ref=bl_dp_s_web_3036997011?ie=UTF8&node=3036997011&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=North+American+Rescue
      The problem here is stock. When a "reputable dealer" goes out of stock, Amazon automatically reverts to the next seller with stock. That seller may or may not be selling real CAT's.

    • @mangudai1987
      @mangudai1987 Před 7 lety +8

      Gotcha. So stop buying medical supplies on amazon.

    • @jdmd4u
      @jdmd4u Před 7 lety +5

      It cost $2.68 to ship a 4 oz TQ. NAR is getting rich and has eliminated any competition, it doesn't cost $8 to ship a 4 oz product.

  • @SkinnyMedic
    @SkinnyMedic  Před 7 lety +157

    FYI I broke one of the fakes applying it to a manikin!

    • @yadjekim
      @yadjekim Před 7 lety

      Will you be able to make it to the gun show this weekend?

    • @serenitysekhmet3155
      @serenitysekhmet3155 Před 7 lety +6

      They actually have some good ones on Amazon. It's up to a person to do the research before buying. Everyone will have their own preference. We also have to look at a person's budget, do the research and get what you can afford, do not go broke people trying to keep up with the "rich and fancy" kits. Anything is better than nothing when your life is on the line. This coming from experience. I love your page keep it coming

    • @gmaster45612374
      @gmaster45612374 Před 7 lety +9

      What experience do you have where buying an inferior product is justifiable when you or a loved ones life is at stake? The difference is literally life or death and we're talking about a $15 difference. It doesn't matter who you are anyone can scrape that together.

    • @serenitysekhmet3155
      @serenitysekhmet3155 Před 7 lety +12

      I am the daughter of two doctors, I myself am a Paramedic. We actually have a side project where we help feed, clean, and teach those who are less fortunate and some who are homeless, part of that teaching is medical, you will be very surprised at how many people can't get that up, so it does matter who they are and the budget. We teach how to get the job done with what they have and are able to purchase, like I said I like your channel but from experience I don't agree with if a person can't afford it they should go broker than they already are especially those who are homeless, we can just teach them different ways to get the same job done.

    • @cockerrocker
      @cockerrocker Před 7 lety +7

      Serenity Sekhmet good on you for all you do. However, I think you may be overthinking the premise a little. I'm fairly sure that anyone watching this video on CZcams, or buying tourniquets in general, is not homeless. There have been many reports of people buying these "fake" tourniquets and them failing. I believe he is speaking to all the people who have the means to purchase kits and equipment, but choose to go cheap on these. Honestly, if you were in a pinch, you'd use whatever you had right?
      I mean, I have a buddy with a $2,000 Tavor, but complains about how much a $30 tourniquet is. 😂

  • @Sarri71
    @Sarri71 Před 5 lety +10

    Good thing I watched this before buying a set of 3 for $15. Thank you!!

  • @sydneyshaw6781
    @sydneyshaw6781 Před rokem

    These are the videos that I like on youtube. Very genuine, right to the point and none of the crazy clickbait graphics. Thank you for taking the time to make this.

  • @oomerimunni
    @oomerimunni Před 5 lety +4

    Buy your cats from a licensed breeder.

  • @clyde44556
    @clyde44556 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm glad that I came across your channel. It's very educational and informative! I went through my two IFAKs and one of the two was a fake. I'm glad I came across it before I actually depended on it!

  • @crazyirishmedic9535
    @crazyirishmedic9535 Před 7 lety +32

    sadly I have had issues with real CATs as well. The volunteer department I use to work for got a few dozen CATs from the local military base so we know they were real. Long story short we had 3 break on us in the next year (and we only used a few that year so it was like a 15-25% fail rate) so the medical director went so far as to prohibit the use of them by the department and we went back to the SOFT-T

    • @RubleInnawoods
      @RubleInnawoods Před 4 lety +2

      CrazyIrishMedic i personally think SOFTs are superior. I’ve used them for so long and have never had an issue.

    • @mamneo2
      @mamneo2 Před 2 lety +1

      Incroyable.

  • @MikeMikeActual
    @MikeMikeActual Před 5 lety +1

    I'm very glad I came across this video before I bought a tourniquet to wear while I conceal carry!! Very good to know the difference!! Thanks brother!!

  • @Roux-AtlasCreation
    @Roux-AtlasCreation Před 7 lety +19

    college student here, I can't chew the idea of paying 30 bucks for a cat. I haven't bought one nor any of the fakes because those are clearly not worth the investment. my solution was to buy a swat t I can get em for $10-12 and outfit several kits. perhaps I have the wrong attitude about this, but if these people really gave a crap about people having good quality life saving tqs, then they would make them more affordable. they would sell more, I can guarantee that. thank you skinny medic, I appreciate the effort and work you put into informing us.

    • @BrazBlue
      @BrazBlue Před 6 lety +2

      $30 is not a lot of money, look at the cost of combat gauze, its literally just gauze with some chemical on it. super cheap to make, yet stupid expensive. yet i bought both because I want to have it when I need it.

    • @aidenbatista5986
      @aidenbatista5986 Před 6 lety +1

      Try befriending a corpsman/medic that how I got a lot of gear in High school they always have supplies to spare and if you show a genuine concern they will likely give you a couple. IDK its just a though

    • @trooper1348
      @trooper1348 Před 5 lety +1

      No offense intended but yes, you have the wrong attitude about severe hemorrhage control. Thirty bucks is a small price to pay to save someone’s life. A SWAT T is not a tourniquet, not even close, it’s nothing more than a device to keep pressure on a dressing & wont do much of anything to stop severe hemorrhaging from a deep artery or vein that has been lacerated.

    • @dgd947a15fl
      @dgd947a15fl Před 4 lety

      @faultroy Maybe I'm misinterpreting you, but I don't think it's a good idea to teach people that makeshift TQs are a valid substitute for real TQs. Obviously being able to make a makeshift TQ is a great skill to know for a disaster where you need more TQs than you have with you. But knowing how to make a TQ out of a shirt and a stick doesn't mean you don't need to carry a real TQ.

    • @nickgomez6272
      @nickgomez6272 Před 3 lety

      30 dollars to save your life, swat t's are supposedly not used in combat, plus the rubber ccN break, you need 2 hands to put it on. By a soft t , or a cat

  • @marksoliman569
    @marksoliman569 Před 5 lety +1

    Wow thank you so much, I bought a CAT Gen 7 off amazon for my personal jump bag (I’m an EMT) and after watching this video, I noticed that both the time stamp and back plate were off. I then applied it to my arm and got 4 good turns out of it. I now keep it to educate my squad on fake TQs and immediately bought a new one from NAR. Thank you so much for the info, you definitely just saved someone’s life!

  • @zocmedia1869
    @zocmedia1869 Před 7 lety +143

    Video was pretty thin on HOW to tell fakes, and reasons why fakes are bad. Is it the Velcro? the windlass? The tightening band? Need more meat to the info.

    • @JoeDurobot
      @JoeDurobot Před 7 lety +32

      *The video was pretty clear.He said it's hard to tell if it's a fake or not so buy from a trusted dealer, possibly directly from AR.*
      *The fakes are bad because they won't work and you will die, simple enough.*
      *The fake don't get tighter as you turn the windlass, you can turn it 5, 6, 7 times then they will break.*
      *They are poorly made of cheaper material.Not to mention they are stealing from the original company who invented the product.*

    • @poet99999
      @poet99999 Před 7 lety +20

      ...but it didnt break

    • @JoeDurobot
      @JoeDurobot Před 7 lety +12

      *It would have after he turned it a few more times because it wouldn't stop the bleeding.*
      *Those fake ones are not designed to work like the real thing, they will get you killed.Period.*
      *But feel free to use them to save a few bucks.*

    • @poet99999
      @poet99999 Před 7 lety +8

      maybe it might have broke... guess we wont know. course if you over tighten anything it will break. too bad im not willing to spend $40 on one to intentionally break it

    • @JoeDurobot
      @JoeDurobot Před 7 lety +9

      *Skinny Medic reported he broke a fake one, you can find videos on CZcams of people testing fake ones and proving they don't work.*
      *They either break or just don't tighten as you turn the windlass, both situations would kill you.*
      *You can buy a real one directly from NAR for $30, this one wont break.*
      www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t
      *If $30 is too expensive for a life saving device you can get a SWAT T for half that price.*
      *Even a $6 TK4 will work better than a fake Chinese CAT and it will save your life.*

  • @joewalsh1054
    @joewalsh1054 Před 5 lety

    I work at a hospital and i had to do some continuing education stuff today and these tourniquets were one of the modules. I have never seen these before today and then this video shows up on my CZcams. They are reading my mind!

  • @BunsAndGunsCalendars
    @BunsAndGunsCalendars Před 6 lety +37

    Pretty thin on why it's fake and how to tell a fake one. I like the posts but this was not really clear and precise. I'm a former SF Medic.

    • @SkinnyMedic
      @SkinnyMedic  Před 6 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/gJ-CIk-eQYM/video.html

    • @richarddisman8451
      @richarddisman8451 Před 3 lety

      I was trained with a piece of rope and a stick when I went though basic.

    • @r1sabotage
      @r1sabotage Před 3 lety

      LoL dude who cares, moral is just buy from a reputable location, like straight from mfg...

  • @firefighterl.butcher6556

    Love it mate thanks for making a video like this when you doing a job or going out to have fun and you get put in that situation where you gonna help someone out you want to know that you've got the best of the best equipment

  • @TheChaoschris
    @TheChaoschris Před 4 lety +1

    You should advise that every time the cat tq is applied that the efficiency declines. Practicing over and over is going to wear out your ribbon inside.

  • @SuperUncleRyan
    @SuperUncleRyan Před 7 lety +11

    There are actually ads for the cheap knockoffs under your video.

  • @masterlegoking1
    @masterlegoking1 Před 7 lety

    this was informational and I appreciate you sharing this info.

  • @COPPER314
    @COPPER314 Před 7 lety +1

    Until retiring last month I was a CLS/TCCC instructor for the CA guard. Most of our students were military and were issued their IFAKs. We had soldiers with fake CATs, fake combat gauze, fake needles, even fake shears. All issued to them. One class had 15 soldiers from the same unit that were issued fake CATs. Their supply sergeant was tasked with getting IFAKs for the unit and fell for the "30 CATs for $100" ruse on eBay.

  • @fsuboy75
    @fsuboy75 Před 5 lety +1

    WOW! Never knew there were FAKE Tourniquets!! I saw them on Amazon for about 10 bucks and bought one not thinking the real ones were 30$$!! I had no idea.

  • @TheRealCobraBurnout
    @TheRealCobraBurnout Před 7 lety +5

    excellent vid. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

  • @WeLikeShooting
    @WeLikeShooting Před 7 lety

    great video on an important topic. also, nice hoodie!

  • @DavesKustoms
    @DavesKustoms Před 7 lety

    Thank you for this, and all that you do.

  • @stacylittle6282
    @stacylittle6282 Před 7 lety

    that's good information! now I need to check mine out!!

  • @diabloclimber
    @diabloclimber Před 4 lety +5

    I would love to see a review of the Recon Medical GEN 4 Tourniquet, have not found a bad review and the price is insane.

  • @williamallegra1865
    @williamallegra1865 Před 6 lety

    Great vid. I almost bought a fake on Amazon, until I saw this video. Again thanks.

  • @TodaysAmericanCowboy
    @TodaysAmericanCowboy Před 3 lety +2

    scenario for fun just to see what people come up with:
    You are at a shooting range and have on your person an IFAK with trauma shears, 1 Israeli bandage, 1 pack of H&H compressed gauze, 1 CAT TQ, 1 NPA, a few pairs of rubber gloves, a roll of medical tape (or duck tape doesn't really matter for this), an emergency blanket, and some band aids.
    In you're truck (which is a 2 minute run away) you have a nice med kit with 3 of everything just mentioned plus 4 chest seals, and a few packs of burn ointment.
    A Man is double tapping at steel targets when 2 of his rounds ricochet and hit a man beside you, he falls on his back clutching his chest just to the left of the heart.
    You look him over quickly and find that he has no IFAK, has a blue tee-shirt, and jeans, he has been shot in the chest just left of the heart and is having irregular breathing, and in the right arm 3 inches below the elbow and it seems to have hit an artery, he also has a cut on the back of his head from a metal chair witch he fell on (not heavy bleeding but enough to mention)
    You call out cease fire to get the area safe. a crowd begins to form around you and one man says he knows first aid and CPR but doesn't have anything with him. Another man says he knows the victim and wants to help but doesn't know any first aid.
    (Have fun leave your course of action in the replys! If SkinnyMedic happens to see this i would love to hear his response!)

    • @TodaysAmericanCowboy
      @TodaysAmericanCowboy Před 3 lety +1

      (My course of action in order) I would tell the victim's friend that my truck was unlocked as well as the location of the med kit and send him to get it, point at the first person i saw with a cell phone and get them to call 911 while i get out my IFAK, tell the man who knows first aid to hold pressure on the arm wound while i get out my H&H, and begin wound packing on the arm as soon as possible and hold pressure with my knee for 3-5 minutes while working on the chest seal with help for the man who knew first aid(which should be enough time for the victim's friend to return with the med kit) if wound packing didn't work i would use a TQ. if the victim's friend still wasn't back by then with the med kit i would attempt to make an improvised chest seal with tape and gloves and check his back for exit wounds, throw an emergency blanket over the victim if he was showing signs of shock and elevate his feet on something, use an Israeli bandage to tend to his head injury, and try to keep him calm and alert by talking to him and assuring him that paramedics were on the way.

  • @AlexanderGarbuz
    @AlexanderGarbuz Před 7 lety

    Thank you, sir! Very helpful video!

  • @warriorgp4640
    @warriorgp4640 Před 2 lety +1

    May sound crazy, but you can enhance the quality of a cheap tourniquet by simply laminating the windlass with multiple layers of resin. I have done this and tested it for durability. It's almost as good as a steel windlass. Although I do have NAR, and Recon TQs, having some extras as backup is always ideal.
    I bought a pack of 10 cheap Chinese knockoffs for $40 and a can of resin for $10.
    Great vid btw

  • @wickwien1835
    @wickwien1835 Před 3 lety +2

    You almost convinced me. So a nice TIME stamp and 3 turns less makes 25 bucks, right?

    • @zachlemon6818
      @zachlemon6818 Před 2 lety

      The windlass snapping on you would be the bigger issue

  • @ddmaddma-ml4zh
    @ddmaddma-ml4zh Před 6 lety +17

    Could you review recon medical cat tourniquet

  • @2AGuysAndGear
    @2AGuysAndGear Před 7 lety

    Thanks for the video. I just ordered my first CAT from medical gear outfitters yesterday

    • @SkinnyMedic
      @SkinnyMedic  Před 7 lety

      Thank you! I just shipped your order!

  • @idahomountainelk
    @idahomountainelk Před 6 lety

    I just ordered my 2nd kit from you because I trust you to sell me a real one. Saw fake ones with a holster for like $12 or so. Too good to be true....

  • @PracticallySquared1
    @PracticallySquared1 Před 6 lety

    I was going to buy one from eBay but after watching your video I ordered one from your store. As your shipping is included! Thanks!!

  • @haiwin224
    @haiwin224 Před 5 lety +1

    I know you are trying to help but really you need to brush up on your TC3. The windlass has to rotate 360 degrees to count as a single turn. On the fake CAT you only turned it 2.5 times which is less than the 4 complete turns required to merit reapplication of a tourniquet. Also while pain is a way to tell a tourniquet is working the only guaranteed way is to test a distal pulse on the affected limb. As long as a tourniquet (improvised or manufactured like a CAT or a SOF T) cuts off a distal pulse it means it works. While generally I agree to watch out for counterfeit products there is nothing magical about the CAT made by NAR. Any medic worth their salt knows that the plastic windlass of the CAT is prone to breaking. I've seen people bust the blue trianers at CLS classes I have seen EFMB candidates bust them at Camp Bullis. If you don't want the windlass to break buy a SOF T.

  • @robertsnyder234
    @robertsnyder234 Před 7 lety

    Thank you and what an eye opener! Makes you wonder what else is junk/fake out there.

  • @DonnieDarko727
    @DonnieDarko727 Před 7 lety

    great vid! going through my inventory now

  • @joerebekkahudson4120
    @joerebekkahudson4120 Před 7 lety +8

    got mine from you so I'm not worried

  • @jackg.7745
    @jackg.7745 Před 7 lety

    Great video. Thanks for the info. I'm pretty sure I have some fakes. I'll start replacing them ASAP.

  • @ben9183
    @ben9183 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for making this video.
    I almost ordered a fake 5 pack of tourniquets off of Amazon for $26.00.
    I'm sticking with the $53 NAR gen 7 CATs.

  • @blackninja1469
    @blackninja1469 Před 6 lety

    Thanks a bunch, I almost fell for this.

  • @haimchapaev
    @haimchapaev Před 6 lety

    Dude, i already ordered on Amazon when I stumbled on this video. Sure enough got 2 fantastic tourniquets from Recon Medical. Great reviews and all. They just arrived and I gave one a try. Well, long story short I am glad I decided to try. It's a piece of garbage. I did 6 turns and almost destroyed the damn thing. So glad I found out now and not in the field. Returning this crap in a hurry!! Buying yours now.

  • @johnnyvolvox2932
    @johnnyvolvox2932 Před 6 lety

    I bought mine on amazon but its 100% real. Good thing it is because before purchasing it I had no idea there was so many counterfeits and that they were so difficult to spot. Great video.

  • @snoopu2601
    @snoopu2601 Před 6 lety

    Thank you for letting me know I was looking at them I thought I would research it first before buying one. Saving me money and mine or someone's life

    • @snoopu2601
      @snoopu2601 Před 6 lety

      Amazon is where I was looking at them now I know not to buy it I'll have to talk to a paramedic and see where they get there's from

  • @Fordgroup00
    @Fordgroup00 Před 7 lety

    Thanks for the tip! 👍saved me a headache in having to spend MORE getting a quality 't-kit
    How do we get ahold of one through you?

  • @doc6306
    @doc6306 Před 4 lety +1

    I had TWO SoonHUA “Life Saving Tourniquets”, in a row, fail on the same patient. I finally used a CAT 5 from my IFAK. The first, the band between the windlass and plastic clip broke and the second, the solely plastic windlass snapped in half. I thought they were aluminum and some sort of steel core. Unbelievable! It took hours to identify the manufacturer. They came in kits purchased from an online store. They were all removed and replaced in less than 24hrs.

    • @glacieractivity
      @glacieractivity Před 4 lety

      This is one of the scariest stories ever shared on the internet. When we think "TQ is needed" - to have it break is on top of any list of FUBAR.
      Pretty much all first responder life-saving can be improvised. TQ is not one of them (I have read 85% non-effectiveness for improvised TQ). We do improvise gauze stuffing. We do improvise chest-seals. We do improvise pressure bandages. We do not improvise TQ well.
      Things to not get from "third party brands" on Amazone: Climbing gear (harness, ropes etc). A 3-D printed gun (it will blow up in your face) and a tourniquet.
      For people on a budget - save on the cost of gauze with haemostatic agents in them. They are not really needed. And I doubt if they are actually worth the cost since it is the stuffing and the pressure who does the actual job. These powders/gels are not magical surgeons that close up bleedings. It is still stuffing and pressure that does the job (I sometimes fear action movies where someone "powders the wound" or push a compress the wound that miraculously returns the arteries and circulation into full operation within 15 seconds may make people with quickloth or whatever have a bit too high hopes of what their medipack can do).

  • @aleksfoxtrot8044
    @aleksfoxtrot8044 Před 5 lety +1

    The recon brand are pretty good. They have a metal windless. They dont try to pass off as NAR cats like the others.

  • @AxiomsMedia
    @AxiomsMedia Před 7 lety +34

    have a look at the Recon medical one. please thanks

    • @ChadHillPhoto
      @ChadHillPhoto Před 6 lety +2

      Thats the one I just bought...hoping its not a fake.

    • @mediumugly4322
      @mediumugly4322 Před 6 lety +2

      Chad Hill ... how do I put this, they are not CAT’s they aren’t advertised to be CAT’s they are a company of their own. Therefore it’s not a “Fake” CAT but a real Recon Medical Tourniquet. None the less to I think to answer your question no they are not CAT tourniquets

    • @RubleInnawoods
      @RubleInnawoods Před 4 lety +10

      C BO recon Medical doesn’t make CATs they make CAT style TQs, but it’s a completely separate TQ. They’re very good. You made a good purchase

    • @EBMisKing
      @EBMisKing Před 4 lety +3

      Ruble Medical not TCCC approved. Not worth buying

  • @Florida_man321
    @Florida_man321 Před 7 lety

    Good video! Saw your original post, checked my TQ and looked good to go, didn't see the collaboration video with NAR and found out I just happened to have a "good" knockoff...ugh. Will be ordering new one from your site soon!

  • @Cmangan1986
    @Cmangan1986 Před 7 lety

    Thanks man, I got fleeced. I will repurchase a quality tourniquet and use the "similar" fake as a trainer.

  • @youmustvotenato
    @youmustvotenato Před 2 lety

    I have several Amazon tourniquets. I'm the process of replacing all of them and converting these old fake ones to training only

  • @scott.j1
    @scott.j1 Před 4 lety +2

    thanks for making this. this helped make me choose the 30 buck gen 7 one from amazon.
    but how do the cheaper 16 dollar Recon ones have such good reviews? 5 stars, nearly 3000 reviews

  • @eliassalmi3930
    @eliassalmi3930 Před 7 lety

    Totally agree! Also what do you think about the DB arms medical kits?

  • @AWDfreak
    @AWDfreak Před 7 lety

    As far as I'm aware, two vendors that likely won't sell you a fake Combat Application Tourniquet would be North American Rescue (as mentioned in the video) and Chinook Medical Gear. I didn't realize that fakes were being sold. Thanks so much for uploading and spreading the word!

    • @SkinnyMedic
      @SkinnyMedic  Před 7 lety +1

      and Medical Gear Outfitters ... my company! ;-)

    • @AWDfreak
      @AWDfreak Před 7 lety

      Oh, I'll add that to my list of medical supplies vendors.

    • @traumamama2007
      @traumamama2007 Před rokem

      I found fakes (made in China) on Amazon being marketed as NAR. Very nearly ordered some until I did a deep dive into the fine print info. Sure enough, “made in china”, and they weren’t cheap.

  • @anim8torfiddler871
    @anim8torfiddler871 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for this post. I've re-supplied four kits in the last month. Got a few CAT7s from Amazon four in a pack for $130, seem to be legit, but I'll re-check. Had a good review. You definitely learn to be skeptical of products priced at a fraction of the real thing.

  • @jeffreythompson2287
    @jeffreythompson2287 Před 6 lety

    After watching your video I discovered that one of my CAT tourniquets is fake and one is genuine. Have one more in the vehicle kit to check. Bought them all on Amazon at different times. Thank you. I will be buying some gear from you for this.

  • @Louis21237
    @Louis21237 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks man just bought 2 of them from you.

  • @schirard
    @schirard Před 3 lety +1

    Just ordered 4 from you Thank You for the information....

  • @emsandmci8243
    @emsandmci8243 Před 4 lety

    some good tips. Thanks

  • @DV11b
    @DV11b Před 6 lety

    Looking to replace one of mine, stopped an accident two days ago and ask if they where good on first aide the first thing out of their mouth was “do you have a tourniquet?” As a matter of fact I do. Thanks for the videos. I will check out your store.

  • @pappy451
    @pappy451 Před 6 lety

    so i just checked the two i have . did the same test you just showed . and it appears i got lucky . i didn't know there was any difference . thanks for the heads up .

  • @dreaparn3613
    @dreaparn3613 Před 5 lety

    Great video! Just a tip, you see the ce mark, It has a gap that should not be there. c e stands for chines export we have this problem with the cheap safety gear.

  • @luvhambo
    @luvhambo Před 7 lety

    Thanks. I had no idea.

  • @playerbadmax
    @playerbadmax Před 5 lety

    Good video ! Thanks man it saves lifes

  • @MrRjb954
    @MrRjb954 Před 6 lety +1

    Bro a Tourniquet is a Tourniquet. Even though it's not the generic brand, it would stop the bleeding. The usage of a Tourniquet is a last resort tool. You should always check the Tourniquet to assure it is working properly, if it is a toy it will pop quickly. Only a fool would not inspect his or her purchases.

  • @fook-joby-den6172
    @fook-joby-den6172 Před 5 lety

    @Skinnymedic-Just received my order from your website of a few of cat-7’s,5x8 van quest fat pack loaded kit, and assorted goodies to have extras of items included. Very pleased with brand names, fair prices& fast shipping. Just wanted to say, thank you & I’m a satisfied customer who when I need another kit, You’ll defiantly get my business again.

  • @MrJtlohse
    @MrJtlohse Před 3 lety +1

    If you’re faced with an option where there is a fake tourniquet in front of you ready to go and a bandanna with a stick or pen which set up would you go for?

  • @brandonsmyth765
    @brandonsmyth765 Před 2 lety +1

    I own multiple real CAT gen 7 Tourniquets and probably 20 SAM XT Tourniquets (Which I think are superior to CAT). I recently ordered 5 "counterfeit" CAT gen 7 TQs from alibaba just to check them out. Honestly, they not only seem very similar to the CAT original TQ, but somewhat superior, the plastics are thicker and more durable. The windlass seems just as strong and I cannot break with while applying the TQ (trust me, I tried). I can break the windlass by bending it when I'm not applying it, but I can do that with a genuine CAT as well. I was trying to find other reasons why people hate on them so much, then I saw your video and decided to give this a try. The Chinese version is tight after 2 spins of the windlass just the same as the CAT. I want to believe everyone when they say these Chinese counterfeits are garbage (and I am sure a lot of them are) but I honestly believe the ones I have are just as good, if not better than the original. Based on what I see and what I have tested, I would trust my life to them.... Unless there is something I am missing??
    I have seen a lot of videos comparing why they're garbage, but I just don't see it when I hold them in my hand. I very much think some people do buy garbage TQs from china, but I also believe you can get very good ones (just like any product). Personally I think most of this is propagated by this push for North Americans to believe everything made in China is garbage, and I don't think that's the case. The ones I have seem extremely legitimate and were definitely much cheaper. I can't get these to fail and I bet you can't either.

  • @frankbutta9344
    @frankbutta9344 Před 5 lety +4

    I just bought two Recon Medical CAT tourniquets from Amazon, and its aluminum windlass would not turn more than 2 1/2 turns on my arm (OUCH!), and two turns on my leg. I did cinch them pretty tight prior to using the windlass. They were $15 each. Love your channel! Thanks!
    P.S. I think I damaged the nerves in my arm...lol!

    • @franktall7705
      @franktall7705 Před 5 lety

      Frank Butta: I also bought 2 Recon Medical CAT’s last week. $15, how do I know if they’re fake?

    • @RubleInnawoods
      @RubleInnawoods Před 4 lety +1

      Sigfrank Recon Medical TQs arent fakeCATs, but they’re real RMTs. Don’t worry about Recon, their stuff is legit

    • @sharting.zogbot1229
      @sharting.zogbot1229 Před 2 lety

      @@RubleInnawoods Made in China and explicitly *not* approved by the CoTCCC. Those two things say quite a bit.

    • @RubleInnawoods
      @RubleInnawoods Před 2 lety

      @@sharting.zogbot1229 you’re over one year late bud, your statement means nothing to me by now

  • @sofloflow
    @sofloflow Před 2 lety +2

    Damn it, looks like I gotta order some real ones!

  • @jeffreykramlich3784
    @jeffreykramlich3784 Před 7 lety +8

    Good video, you should explain why 5 turns is too many. Are there companies advertising under the NAR name that are not?

    • @mediumugly4322
      @mediumugly4322 Před 6 lety +2

      Jeffrey Kramlich I wouldn’t say it’s the number of turns exactly but it shows the quality of the materials, there are stretching and stressing more therefore they are probably more likely to break

  • @braxtonb3787
    @braxtonb3787 Před 7 lety

    thanks for this important info

  • @RhodeIslandArmory
    @RhodeIslandArmory Před 7 lety +4

    Well done Bro! All the counterfeit products drive me nuts, and is dangerous. Thanks for supporting us at We Like Shooting!

  • @traveller4790
    @traveller4790 Před 2 lety

    I was putting together my IFAK last month, and one of the things I bought was a CAT tourniquet. I had never seen one of these before since it came out LONG after I retired from the military in 1998, so I asked my son who is active duty Air Force Security Forces about it. He told me all about it and said I absolutely needed one in my combat IFAK that I was putting together. (I prefer to buy the contents separately rather than buy a pre-made kit.) So like the uneducated fool that I was, I went to Amazon and bought one for $14. Yeah, sure, the seller said it was a "real" and "genuine" CAT tourniquet, and I was thrilled when it arrived. Then, a few days later, I was cruising CZcams and saw a video about fake CAT tourniquets, and the poster demonstrated (as you did) the difference between the real ones and the fakes. He also showed close up views of the differences, and urged his viewers to check their CAT and see if it was real or fake.
    Well, I checked mine and you guessed it - I had bought a cheap Chinese fake. Needless to say, I was pissed! Since it would cost more than the CAT was worth to send it back and get a refund, I just threw the useless piece of Chinse crap in the trash, then went to North American Rescue and bought a real one. I examined it closely when it arrived, and the differences in construction were clearly apparent.
    Thanks for this video! Keep spreading the word, because those cheap Chinese pieces of shit are everywhere, and people need to know about it!

  • @lukehague5082
    @lukehague5082 Před 7 lety

    Mine were fake. This video could have just saved a life, mine. I just ordered 3 real ones from you. Thanks

  • @VPPAF
    @VPPAF Před 7 lety

    perhaps you should disable ads on this video as youtube are showing eBay ads for cheap ones

  • @NileByTheMiles
    @NileByTheMiles Před 7 lety +1

    Picked up high quality real one from Local Police Supply shop.

  • @michaelalan6459
    @michaelalan6459 Před 4 lety

    My old lady yelled at me for buying "rubber tubes".

  • @brandonm1881
    @brandonm1881 Před 5 lety +5

    Interesting, I've bought these tournis from Amazon and tested them several times, and they work just fine, just in case I'm going to test it again right now
    Result on arm: arms are 15' in circumference, and it took about 2 twists from a $12 tourni on Amazon so I'd trust it

  • @deltamike33
    @deltamike33 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you for this video! So i've realized that i have a fake one, I throw that crap away and I'm going to buy the real deal! By the way, with my fake one i've managed to get almost 6 and a half turns, and also it wasn't giving enough pressure

  • @Prodigysportsman
    @Prodigysportsman Před 7 lety +1

    Ok...what about non-fakes that are similar to NAR CAT but aren't marketing themselves as CATs?

    • @Joe.dirt7909
      @Joe.dirt7909 Před 7 lety

      Prodigysportsman Just buy the real deal and be done....

  • @SlimeBoy1231
    @SlimeBoy1231 Před 6 lety +1

    isnt it dangerous to put a tourniquet on if you dont need it?

  • @jamesvatter5729
    @jamesvatter5729 Před rokem +1

    I bought mine from Amazon, but it was supposedly from NAR.

  • @JonathanPerez-oy2hm
    @JonathanPerez-oy2hm Před 7 lety

    Thank for this video! Gheez my freaking TQ was a fake. 0_o;! Just ordered from your store.

  • @ThomasShue
    @ThomasShue Před 4 lety +1

    Why does the original need to cost $30 bucks? I get it, they want to get rich, but are you telling me its impossible for a company to source the same materials and build their own version that isn't from the original manufacturer but still works to stop the pulse/bleeding? I gave several from another company called RECON, they have an aluminum windlass and work fantastic. $15.00 each Just because they are not bade by the originator does not make them a FAKE tourniquet.

  • @OutdoorGearAddiction
    @OutdoorGearAddiction Před 7 lety +1

    you vaguely pointed out the different in the "time" font as being fake but didnt actually show us the tag differences on the fakes vs the real McCoys.... I'm looking to purchase with an amazon gift card.

  • @mediumugly4322
    @mediumugly4322 Před 6 lety

    How important is the “made on” dates? Is there an expiration or certain time they should be replaced?

  • @denvervanhauwaert6995
    @denvervanhauwaert6995 Před 3 lety +1

    So you just have to twist it more.

  • @kencreppin2146
    @kencreppin2146 Před 5 lety +1

    Your link doesn't ship outside the US. What is a Canadian option if you would know?

  • @tranpak9504
    @tranpak9504 Před 4 lety +2

    How do you feel about those recon medical TQ's?

  • @outdoorsjoe1
    @outdoorsjoe1 Před 7 lety +1

    Do the real deals have aluminum handles and the fakes have plastic turn handles? I thought I saw that some where or maybe I was dreaming. lol good video as always enjoy them a lot.

    • @dakotablain4465
      @dakotablain4465 Před 7 lety +1

      I'll look it up later. Lol

    • @JoeDurobot
      @JoeDurobot Před 7 lety +1

      *They both have plastic windlass.*
      *Not the same quality of plastic though.*
      *I saw a guy break a chinese one by turning the windlass just a few times.*

  • @mrbiggguns
    @mrbiggguns Před 7 lety

    Hey how ya doing? Just getting into prepping was watching a Prepper on here and he talked about you.. so i have watched a few of you video and i do Foster Care and i have 6 Boys with me and was going to start to build a few med's for home and cars and was wondering if you could give me a few pointers on items needed to put kits together enjoy and learn from your videos Thanks for any help

  • @aegismediaservice5944
    @aegismediaservice5944 Před 2 lety +1

    So the issue is that you have to turn the windlass 2 more times?

  • @Artix902
    @Artix902 Před 2 lety

    I buy a bicycle helmet that costs a bit more than the $20 ones because my head is worth more than $20. Same with these TQs.

  • @skipskipper99
    @skipskipper99 Před 7 lety +5

    Looks like the fake ones will work just fine. I have a few real and fake and both seem to work great in practice first aid.

  • @trentonchambers7655
    @trentonchambers7655 Před 4 lety +1

    What does number of turns have to do with being a fake, are the others more prone to break ?

  • @paulcrane8524
    @paulcrane8524 Před 7 lety +8

    I know I've got two knockoffs but they also didn't claim to be a CAT TQ, I got mine of Amazon but they were call recon something or other. I agree with you a hundred percent, but if thats all you have can you make use of what you have?

    • @jerrycanne6981
      @jerrycanne6981 Před 7 lety +1

      You can try, better than nothing maybe. Use the fake to practice with and use a paint marker to mark it as practice only. Amazon will give full refunds for stuff like that.

    • @crazyirishmedic9535
      @crazyirishmedic9535 Před 7 lety +7

      Recon medical tourniquets are a brand of there own, they make great budget tourniquets with improved features over the CAT

    • @Thunderbolt22A10
      @Thunderbolt22A10 Před 6 lety +1

      Yeah the recon medic tourniquets. They're a brand of their own and are honestly an improvement over the NAR ones. It'd be good if the Skinny Medic would review them side by side.

    • @crazyirishmedic9535
      @crazyirishmedic9535 Před 6 lety +1

      I will be coming out with a line of videos on almost a dozen different types of tourniquets including the Recon Med ones in the coming month as part of my youtube debut lol

    • @ReconMedical
      @ReconMedical Před 6 lety +11

      We have recently pull tested our tourniquets against the major name brands. Most broke at 650 pounds. The Recon Medical tourniquet with the added Kevlar broke at 740 pounds average. Just an FYI. We strive to create best durable lightweight and affordable tourniquet on the market.

  • @grumpyoldphart7325
    @grumpyoldphart7325 Před 6 lety

    Thank you!

  • @Nevernotalone
    @Nevernotalone Před 6 lety

    Can you show more tips on spotting fakes