Terminator Timeline EXPLAINED (Terminator Genisys Erased History?)
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- What is Terminator Genisys? What is Terminator Movie? Terminator Timeline Explained! Finally! Yay! The Terminators movies are Explained by Whitney Moore in this easy to understand breakdown of the time travel timelines. Feeling confused as to where Terminator Genisys falls on the timeline of events from the original Terminator films? Terminator Genisys explained is here. The latest installment into the Terminator franchise, Terminator Genisys, takes place in its own timeline and features many of the same characters as the original films such as Sarah Connor and John Connor. So what does this mean? In this Terminator Genisys explanation we break down all Terminator movie timelines and explain just how it fits into the grand scheme of things in this Terminator Genisys breakdown. When does Terminator Genisys take place? Terminator Genisys takes place throughout the timelines of the original films. Original Terminator scenes with original Terminator characters Sarah Connor, and John Connor appear throughout the film almost as Terminator Genisys easter eggs. Gabe Hohreiter explains it all in this Terminator everything you need to know!
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For all of you that got confused, just imagine that the series ended in T2, the end
Imagine?
Can you help me figure out how Kyle Reese was a kid when he met John connor in Terminator Genisys and why Reese had a photo of Sarah Connor
Well if everything ended good in T2 why dose Johon Connor send back his pall to have sex with his mum to produce himself. I mean, it is not a dystopic world to save anymore.
Yes until November 1st 2019
Nah, the series will end when James Cameron is done with Terminator 3, Dark Fate, ignoring every movie that is not made by James Cameron.
Basically, the timeline was terminated. Hasta La Vista, baby
Kickor Sidumain
Timeline: I'll be back
hahahahahahaha
I'm from Pakistan please clear my confusion. I cant understand at the end of terminator genisys.... everything has changed. No judgement day exit, sara live with kyle at the age of 20 in 2017 instead of 1984 whereas, there is also kid kyle exist. after death of Robo John Cornnor what the hell is going on. now whats the reality of John Connor. OMG Its time to suicide now.
Rana HM Furqan 😂
Kickor Sidumain but if it’s been erased then why is terminator dark fate is set after 2
Why all this hate towards Terminator Salvation? I think it was fantastic. It had the best post apocalyptic settings, great effects, it introduced the concept of infiltration units, it showed how John Connor got his face scars, it was different no time travel no alternate timelines, it stayed loyal to the story and so on. Go watch it again, you'll see !
I love it
A. M.M.B. Yeah!
+Phobos
Ripped off Casshan: Robot Hunter Anime. Both have a guy who was once human, who is now machine, and fights against other machines. Human resistance gets orders from superiors who traveled around in a submarine. The resistance in both receive a faked device to disable the killer robots.
+TN BN So what? that's only your imagination trying really hard to link both of them! an anime? really? that's for kids! we're talking about the Terminator here!
*****
The cartoon had violence and death. They watched it no doubt.
John teaches Kyle how to fight in turn Kyle teaches Sarah how to fight which in turn Sarah teaches John how to fight...which John teaches Kyle how to fight...who later teaches Sarah how to fight...its a viscious cycle
+Thomas Zulli that cycle has been broken.. in fact John Connor as we know it no longer exists.. hell his own father can teach him to fight now.. or whatever this movie comes up with..
But can they see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
John was also taught by Columbian/Mexican Drug Lords after he and Sarah fled South after T1.
paradox
Basically it's the bootstrap paradox
The real theory is that Kyle Reese was NEVER John Connor's father.
When he became his dad, that's when an alternate timeline was created.
its true. his original father was probably one of the telescope punks. The terminator alters timelines way more than Kyle Reese does. He killed a shit ton of cops who could have had kids who originally were supposed to fight in the original future war. Plus randoms at the dance club. But nobody ever thinks of that.
What about the alternate targets of the original t1000?
That changes things
If originally Kyle was not John Connor's father, so originally John was not in the original timeline.
Or better yet, we have never seen the original timeline, and all this time we were supporting discount John Connor.
@@vencislavgunev293 there was a john corner just one genetically different from the altered time line.
The reason why Skynet becomes Genisys in the new timeline is because Cyberdine no longer gets the the T-800's arm and processing chip from the "bad" T-800. It is actually the T-3000 that goes back in time (sometime before 2017) to help Dyson create Skynet in the form of Genisys.
Was just about to make that same comment.
Yea people don't realize that the original T800 is in fact the father of Skynet the way Reese is to Conner. Cause Skynet did in fact send the T800 and T1000 back at same cause it knew first would fail but it needed it to exist. There is concept art for a deleted scene in T2 that confirms that. It shows them send Reese back than John finds the T800 and one of his soilder's say's that skynet also sent back a prototype terminator to 95
Then why is Miles Dyson alive?
Skynet was still created without the T-800's arm and CPU. Those things only made Skynet more advanced but humanity will one day still create skynet. Read Cameron's explanation, crackpot.
in 2015 as its said t-3000 arrived
Dude, Terminator Salvation was NOT that bad.
+22steve5150 I like all the Terminator movies.
Me too
+22steve5150 Mcg's best?
+Ask IronPride & friends I like one of them.
+22steve5150 i enjoyed it
At least X-men did it in a much less complicated way
Watched this 100 times
Still confused
Watch once...
Mind blown
technically explain there is the three different timeline, the Genisys latest movie was reset all the history due to someone sent T800 old Arnold to 1973
You have to much time on ur hands
Try the zombies storyline.
Just watch Terminator 1 & 2 and forget the rest. Lol
what happened to the scared sarah connor from the first movie?
answer = hollywood feminism
🤣
😂
Confusing writing
What? Sarah become strong after 1 and 2. You misgonyst just bash everything with strong female in it.
JM Rodriguez-Luis Simp
I went to see "Terminator: Genisys" by myself and the theater was completely empty, I got drunk, hit a bowl a couple times and even smoked a few cigarettes. Not even employees came in, I spent the whole movie alone and got so fucked up that I don't even remember anything from the movie what so ever! lol
what a life
jacklxv What's funny is except smoking bud. I'm completely sober now...
Steve Jackson u must b Edward fulong
DuVaal That's awesome lol
r/thathappened
Why am I always mind-blown whenever somebody talks about timelines and paradoxes?
+Ernest Chui™ (ernestcmh) terminator is just weird lol. like i thought John had a different father before any terminator was ever sent back in time. and then kyle is sent back to 84 and he becomes the new father of john, but i really think that Kyle was always going to be his father no matter what.
+DGK201 Sadly your the only one showing your ignorance and incompetency to understand the situation. If +Dante Sparda came to his theory by himself with no prior knowledge of it preexisting, then it is his theory and he can claim it as his own. The fact that the theory may or may not have existed prior to his, does not detach it from the truth unless he claims that he was the first to come to this theory.
Because it is confusing as shit
OK finally someone is gonna explain it to me, let me just get a pen and paper...
Jig G
BIMMOM Really?
It ain't rocket science.
bobhu simem no, it's quantum physics.
😂😂 same
lumina orchis yes it is
So WHERE is the Terminator ride at Universal fit in?
A bad dream.
Shit's still way better than Terminator 3.
Although that's not saying much...
Dear Lord *takes off sunglasses.
Terminator 8
Basically... its much easier to watch if you believe that it ended with Terminator 2 and that was it. All the other side timelines are just what ifs.
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My terminator ended with Genesis
I BROKEMYOWNHEART genesis deletes everything, making everything pre genesis irrelevant.
Ir altered
@@ibrokemyownheart4953 same
My brain just blew up
+Ivan Qiu i just came
mine too lolz
Swiss Cheese from the shotgun
Adaptive Silhouette it’s just 3 timeline ...
They've fucked it up. Should've kept Cameron involved.
Why the hell would living out the rest of the 80's be a bad thing?
Cold War
funky hair my answer
weird funkcy hair and probely a terminator or 2
80?? put 3 years back...1977...aaah first star wars
Projectnsight never seen any of the star wars movies. or titanic lmao
No shit! Instant loss of any credibility after that. 80's were awesome!
Well, now there's Terminator Dark Fate.. Make a video about that!
737 he mentions rights handed over in 2019 but it seems like last year genises was out. Mind boggling how time flys
Dark fate will be a direct sequal to t2
@@charlesloftin8768 Exactly what I thought. 😂
@@bluemartian9642 but how? when the t2 timeline was erased?
@@MYTHIC666 dark fate is ignoring the events of rise of the machines, salvation, and genysys.
I think salvation gets more hate than it should, although its not really like the other terminator films it is still good in its own right. Far better than rise of the machines and genesis in my opinion. I was quite sad when I learnt they weren't continuing a trilogy of sorts with the cast of salvation, I loved the world they came up with and the style of the film reminded me of a Terminator version of Mad Max.
Marcus Wright, Kyle Reese, BLAIR. The scene with the harvester...omg that movie had a lot of awesome shit in it.
Sadly way to many people are on a dick riding train hating on salvation
Me: sees that terminator genisys comes on netflix.
Me 10 minutes into the movie: WTF is going on
Can't Wait to See Terminator 6 Film in 2017
Justin Sumner i Like to See Both T-X from Terminator 3 Film and Marcus Wright from Terminator 4 Film in Terminator 6 Film in 2017
The box office so far is at like $308M, now it's up to China's box office to see if it will garner a sequel..... Fast 7 made $250M in roughly 7 days of its premier, Transformers: AOE made $310M in China as final box office...... I'm hoping Genisys can do those numbers in China: they have a high demand for movies with robots, and cyborgs.
+Hassan Syed Genisys wasn't terrible wtf? The movie was amazing!
+ironmantim33 Mad Max:Furry Road,which is the best movie ever and no more ever can contend with it's awsome epicenesss.
+Pierthefrenchchicken that movie sucked dick. cars chasing cars the whole movie. yawn. BOOOO-RING.
"It's a very serious type of leukemia where producers don't wanna work with you" bwahahahahah
To personally have it make more sense for me, I just watch the first two films and pretend the other three afterwards don't exist. It's less confusing that way. After T2, Cyberdyne/Skynet is completely destroyed and Judgment Day doesn't happen. The End.
Diablo Pesina No, because there's things in T3 that contradicts T2: Judgment Day such as Connor's age, and it was also the start of when the timeline began to not make sense.
Wglass90 in that case just go to TSCC, oh wait, FOX cancelled it before it ended because, sci-fi on Fox, and their excuse of "the timelines" and "Terminator Salvation" and "Confused fans"
Nah sorry that doesn't make sense either. If Cyberdyne/Skynet is destroyed then there is no john Conor to destroy it in the first place. John only exists because the terminators exist and vice versa.
@@irieite9666 the time line and storyline would be fixed or easier if Kyle Reese wasn’t John’s dad. That’s where it’s gets confusing!
The only reason John sends back Reese to the past is to protect his mother and be his father, and after T2, technically speaking, after the Cyberdyne is blown up and T-800 are destroyed in the molten steel, Skynet would never have existed, so there is no war, between humans and robots, and there is no need to send Reese back to the past, so John Connor never sends Reese back, because he never existed. So sum up, it’s pointless to change the past, because judgement day was always going to happen. So basically, the dark future still exists, except there is alternate reality where it doesn’t. But John Connor, should not exist in that alternate reality, because there is no need to, but he does, so in every reality, there will be always some version of skynet fighting humans.
I actually liked Terminator Salvation because it showed us what it was like during the war. It shows us things mentioned in previous movies (Like John Conner rescuing Kyle Reese from the extermination camp) while giving a unique story twist with Marcus being a terminator-human hybrid. Plus, the terminators in this movie genuinely look real.
hi i have to say this but i dont blame you since the majority of people havent heard of it but...
you forgot to add TERMINATOR:The Sarah Chronicles
this is pretty much a tv series of the terminator it doesnt have Arnold :( but it does have some pretty bad ass stuff watch it its only around 30-50 episodes divided into 2 season and it makes alot more sense about why in the TERMINATOR:Salvation the girl friend from TERMINATOR:3 doesnt appear and also a few other things like why he looks the way he looking the the 4th movie and so on
i highly recommend it for anyone who wants to get there brain twisted up
1 more thing if Skynet never sent a terminator back in time to kill Sarah Conner they wouldnt need to to send back Kyle Reese to protect Sarah there for no John Conner
(Im smarter then Skynet and yet i am a car mechanic living in an apartment with my friend playing games on the computer)
Kevin Lalach As far as i know... its not Canon ...therefore it doesn't count. Movies are in a different "universe" just like the Marvel and DC have their Cinematic universes.
RED DEATH Yeah, this is what we heard too.
RED DEATH well if its not cannon then that means TERMINATOR:Salvation is not cannon either, considering that TERMINATOR:The Sarah Conner Chronicles came out BEFORE TERMINATOR:Salvation
also like i said there are a lot of things in the TV series that explains why some thing in TERMINATOR:3 dont happen in TERMINATOR:Salvation
RED DEATH The show was canon, but in a different timeline.
Kevin Lalach The girlfriend from T3 does appear as his wife in Salvation, different actress but same character name.
The reason why I didn't like Genisys is because they just COMPLETELY disregarded Terminator 3 and 4. Say what you want about they movies, but most agree that they suck (I'm not one of them. I loved Salvation), but they are STILL CANON. YOU CAN NOT DESTROY CANON NO MATTER HOW BAD IT IS. Ignore it? Sure. But CONTRADICT it? ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT!!!
playerselite42 That's exactly what I thought. They just sort of acted like those movies never took place which then creates continuity errors in the timeline. I was sitting there in the cinemas thinking "WTF That's not how John met Kyle?"
Kirk Donnelly Exactly.
***** That is ABSOLUTELY wrong. It doesn't matter how much you dislike Salvation, it is CANON. Also, T2 and T3 can't exist in the same universe as Genisys. There are too many contradictions.
playerselite42 Exactly. That's what annoyed me about Genisys (I still liked it, but that annoyed me). Not only do T2, T3 and Salvation not count but neither does the original since it's all different. The future timeline John in this movie has not been from any of the timelines before (not the original timeline with 1997 Judgment day or the T2-Salvation Timeline with 2004 Judgment day) This is a completely separate timeline, leaving us with no actual ending to the original 4 movies.
salvation was alright but T3 was horrible
The video is just under 10 minutes. I respect you guys
The timeline is complicated
Avengers Endgame: Hold my Infinity stones
Nah that timeline is simple.
Cod Zombies: hold my jug
Legend of Zelda : hold my Link
Saw hold my gore
The film is surprisingly deep, they allude to the fact that they are stuck in a never ending loop, full of moves and counter-moves, with neither skynet or the resistance able to break the cycle. Who knows how long they have been fighting for, how many terminators and soldiers they have sent back and forth, but even so neither is able to break the stalemate.
From a production point of view it was a pretty good move, you can essentially cannonise all terminator works, and spin a story which creates the impression of a futile unwinnable struggle.
You forgot to mention that the writers explained that the Skynet who assimilated Connor in the "original" timeline was from a different timeline, possibly from Salvation or another, who as they say, "dimension hopped" in his last effort to win the war since he's seen himself lose in every timeline he has visited.
That's just what they said.
WeylandYutaniInc91 Gobbledigook!
That's just what the writers said.
WeylandYutaniInc91 Yeah, I know. It doesn't bode well...
I know it's outrageous, but that's what they said, maybe I just believe it because I still like Salvation, and 3 wouldn't be so bad if they rectify the ending. I just feel the ending of T3 pissed on T2, that's just me. Again, maybe I just believe it because I want all 5 movies in the same canon.
I mean, some people think the writers were joking because they were talking about Matt Smith who previously played Dr. Who, some sources even say that Genisys is a straight up reboot with no connections to any of the Terminator movies.
Hell, if I could change one thing about the movie, I would take out the part when Skynet grabs Connor and say that Connor was assimilated in a timeline we hadn't seen yet.
WeylandYutaniInc91 Salvation is underated. I liked it as a standalone redempton story but it didn't feel like a Terminator film to me because they completely changed how the future war looked and recast everyone!
T3 ending did contradict T2 ending but was consistent with T1 ending so Cameron left himself open to something like that by leaving the T2 ending ambiguous because he wanted to make a T3 but never got round to it. The rest of T3 is best forgotten!
A 5 movie canon is probably asking too much. Alien, Superman, Star Wars, LOTR all suffered a drop on quality after the initial 2-3 films because either the film making team changed and/or they ran out of a decent story to tell...
I honestly don't know yet what to think of TG but I still prefer the simpler "causal loop" of the earlier films than this multi-verse explanation.
NewMediaRockstars, you asked why the new timeline had Judgement Day pushed back. I think it's because Sarah and Pops were actively destroying all the tech that was sent back in time from the future. Without the robot arm and chip from Terminator 1 being left behind for people to find, Judgement Day would not have happened in 1997.
Nick Gherz Ah, good point. I can get behind that theory.
So what happened with t-800 that saved Sarah in 1973? And why is he not there already with her in 1984?
Darko Djalovic That is the one that's with her in 1984.
NewMediaRockstars But in 1984 we have "bad" t-800 that is sent to kill her...
+Darko Djalovic Watch the movie.
Poka Face which one i watched them all? although first one i watched long time ago.
+Darko Djalovic Terminator Genisys
I think that the T-800 that was sent back to 1973 and the one that was sent to protect John Connor are the same one. In the alternate timeline after being affected by T2 and T3 that version of Skynet changed its plan to send the T-1000 back to kill Sarah as a kid instead of John. And naturally the resistance sent their T-800 back after it
Okay here is my question/thoughts: if sending the "Pop's" back to 1973 to protect Sarah and Pop's keeps her alive to meet Kyle, but they never have sex. So how does John remain if he was never Born? If the the T1and T2 are erased, then how does John survive the "ripple" in space/time?
Right?
BECAUSE IT'S TERMINATOR
This is the question I also asked myself. My conclusion:The John Connor in Genisys is technically the last John Connor from 2029. By jumping from 1984 to 2017 they destroyed the possibility of John being born in 1985. The earliest he could be born (IF he is born) would be 2018 which would make him 11 in 2029. So either the whole thing would have to be postponed or there would be a peaceful future OR there would be no John Connor at all since they barely had any chemistry at all. Since the sequels to Genisys are not going to happen we will most likely not find out.
Jason Clarke's John Connor may have said that it caused a ripple effect in which his existence was now a paradox from which it no longer connects to Kyle and Sarah conceiving him.
and here we are in 2017 waiting for any skynet news.
It's coming. Just wait for Trump. It'll come.
Nightweaver1 waiting........
Nightweaver1 oh come on! what about my Mexican freinds
imparable 71 lol genisys
Google is genisys
This actually is the best explanation of the timeline.
Me: *watches the whole video*
Also me: *wait, what?*
Also me: *restart*
This is one of my favourite Terminator movies.
I would like to thank you for this and complement you on the excellent way you presented it. So many videos like this are filled with vulgar stuff that is absolutely not necessary. You did a great job, you were entertaining and extremely intelligent about the whole thing. You also helped me understand the movies a little bit better. Also the humor that you used was excellent so please don't change a thing about how you were doing these videos.
My mind is blown i need morgan freeman to come and explain it to me
Thanks, Doctor Brown. This now makes total sense. Now how do they get back to 1985?
Hmmmm build a time machine is my guess, In TSCC ( not canon) Cameron told John in the bank vault, they sent one of their best engineers to salvage parts for the TDE..... I wanna see the T-5000 in action in the next film, I have a cool concept for a T-2000 ( the gap between)!!
bassplayer807, tell us more about the 2000 model.
Something similar to Raiden's NANOMACHINES in Metal Gear Rising: Revengence, CNT muscle fibers to replace human muscle fibers, and Nanites to make him a bullet timer....... I personally think the T-3000 should've been the first Terminator to dodge projectiles, the T-4000 could be something like Greed (FMA) or Senator Armstrong ( MGRR) + Monsoon ( he split his body into individual parts due to his magnetic field).
As far as Terminator goes it should have finished at Terminator 2. Unfortunately there is money to be made out of poor sequels when the 2nd Terminator was fantastic and it ended the franchise in my opinion...
crazee635 True, but I'm such a silly optimist with these things. I always want them to be great. It's like trying to get lightning to strike twice, or more like 6 times.
NewMediaRockstars I enjoyed the video...well explained and presented !
crazee635 There was always room for a prequel (although you might not consider that to be T3) and once the films had "completed the loop" they could deal with what happened after 2029 because the time machine wasn't destroyed so the war wasn't over!
But we needed Cameron to make them and he wasn't interested in doing so... BIATCH
crazee635 I agree with you at 100%...saga is T1 and T2-JD (words of James Cameron)...end!!!!!!the alternative timeline in T3 > Salvation and the reset saga T-Genisys are patetic and ridiculous!!!!
As a bit of a Terminator fan, I enjoyed it pretty well. The nostalgia factor is pretty high.
Great video btw, I love time travel sci-fi stories so keeping up with all the time lines is pretty fun for me. :D
For how short Primer, it's definitely a hell of a complicated film. It's also such an underrated one
basicly the time original time line of Terminator does still exist when you consider in theory one cannot effect the past nor future as like for example take dragon ball z when trunks went back into the past this past he went to was entirely different from the one he knew thus creating 2 seperate time lines or in short it's the multiverse theory as an example needless to say when we look back at terminator 2 and the alternate time line John has a family and Sarah Grew old to become a grandmother to even say the time lines were not erased only creating alternate time lines.
Just like in the History of Trunks timeline, Gohan died because he never achieved SS2, the androids were never absorbed by Cell in that timeline, and android 16 didn't exist...... and the only way Trunks easily took out 17, 18, and Cell was because he took the time machine back to train with his father Vegeta, and then come back and annihilate 17, 18, and Cell with ease....... When Trunks explained his future to everyone it reminded me of how Kyle Reese explained his hellish dystopian future. It would suck being the only Saiyan left alive.
bassplayer807 That is why i said the original time line of Terminator is not erased it just created different time lines or to even say infact alternate time lines.
Exactly like John Conner said in Terminator Salvation this future is different than what his mother told him about things had changed but not only that Terminator 3 was as well an alternate time line of judgement day.
Even tho in Terminator 2 we could see they had destroyed everything to prevent judgement day but because of time travel they created alternate time lines and thus the creation of genisys
Leander Lumbanraja The problem is that whilst they can co-exist there is no way they can meld together. The T-800 cannot be in the 1984 where Pops and Sarah already have altered and where a T-1000 has already been sent with what we can assume a new target in the form of Reese. Having already altered the past, the 1984 is now different. Skynet would not send a T-800 to a time period which it has knowledge has been altered to now include a hardened warrior and a protector T-800 easily capable of destroying skynet's terminator. The only return that could make sense is the T-1000 attempting to kill Reese. The other T-800 should no longer ever be there, the timeline has changed.
J Preston Yes but as i said this is a different time a alternate time line but still the original time line still exist like when we looked at back to the future and the trunks saga of dbz you could see the different time lines that co-exist it doesn't really mean ther original time line had been deleted
They can co exist but they cannot possibly be merged, thats the issue with Genisys, it has timelines over lap and becomes messy. The T-800 should no longer appear in 1984 in Genisys.
If ur watching this 5 years later ur a legend
Judgment day was postponed because the original inventor didn't get the remains of the first t800
+Levi Dixon so with this in mind Robot John Conor never existed at best he would send Kyle back before he was erased from history.. or future..
Acek im confused now...
No wonder we have shitty movies, T3 could have been possibly made in the 90s
That was cool. Ever since watched it I been watching all the other movies to put it together. great Job man
Only thing i can think of as to why judgement day got pushed is because sarah got rid of all terminator evidence before going into future and in T-2 cyberdyne was able to reverse engineer the t-800 and make huge leaps in advancement. In genisys the leap didnt start until john connor went to the past i think jihn arrived in 2013 or something which is even stated that he was sent to ensure the creation of skynet because without the t-800 parts skynet would not be created.
Genysis makes Salvation look better then most people think
The official correct badass order of films:
1. Terminator 2
2. Terminator 1
3. Terminator Genisys
4. Terminator Salvation
5. Terminator 3
Choochoobe how do u know i’m confused hella
Terminator 3 was the best y’all crazy
I feel so educated
Want a medal now!?
This helped me understand that there was already an alternate timeline i.e. Terminator 3. I originally thought Genisys had erased all previous timelines due to John Connor stating judgement day happened in 1997. Now I realise the beginning of Genisys happens on the original timeline where Judgement Day occurred in 1997, this also can explain the plot line of his wife not being around. Judgement Day gets pushed back to 2017 because Cyberdyne doesnt have the technology yet. They only had the technology in 1997 because they had found the arm and chip of the original Terminator from 1984. Now it all makes sense.
Gabe, you were born to do this. 1 of the few web shows I can watch. Soooo much data in 10 minutes. Awesome stuff.
Its indeed that genysis erase everything on the terminator saga. "Who sent the good T800 and raise sarah?"
Maybe the answer is at dark fate
Ujang Boyor, no because Terminator Dark Fate is going to ignore everything about Terminator 3, Terminator Salvation and Genisys.
Terminator Dark Fate will be a direct sequel to Terminator Judgement Day. So just pretend those terrible sequels never happened
George McFly they were not terrible sequels.
terminator salvation was awesome
I'm here thinking the same. Terminator Salvation was GREAT!!!
I don't like it but enjoyed it more so then T3 and Genisys. It tried to do something original and had sleek visuals with practical effects but was ultimately a letdown down a bland story.
Yes!
The Terminator and T2 was the best the other was decent to trash at best
Excellent Video - Thanks
"The Terminator series has been amazing since 1984 until 1993, then the other films happened"
I could not agree more. I am a big Terminator fan and would love to see a timeline explaining the tv show Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronnicles.
The best part of the show is that the other films never happened!
left out something, so Sarah Connor knows the future, and SkyNet stated, "I've come a long way to stop you" and he stated, "it was an Army of slaves" it seems to be that SkyNet actually traveled across multiple timelines/universes. John Connor stated that, "SkyNet always loses because of me(John Connor)" that is hinting that there are multiple universes.
im gonna guess and say that katherine bruster sent back the t-800 to the 70s since she is in 3and 4 presumably she could be in genisys just kept out of the main story
Robert Vasquez Did you notice though, that in the parking lot scene (Genisys) where Arnold is choking Reese he listens to Sarah Connors commands as she said "let him go"? I think Linda Hamilton will be in the latter films.
true
Call Me Gaffer Boooosh! Although I'd be surpised if they bring back Hamilton. That would be cool indeed...
I'm just gonna go all out dumb, I like to believe that originally in the jacked up timeline the T-1000 does kill baby Sarah and Skynet wins but then takes a look at what it's done and said "oh.....oh shit, I can't believe it, we won" but after awhile it realizes the meaning of humanity, and attempts to send the Pops or as I like to called him "Arnold" terminator back to stop that happening from happening and with humanity comes a great ego so it erased everything about Pops past except for it's main objective: Kick the T-1000's ass, and if you don't believe so, it's my opinion and I'm gonna state it
Robert Vasquez I think it's pretty obvious that Skynet/Alex/Matt Smith sent back the Pops terminator after changing it's mind about John's role in it's own future. Yeah I could be wrong, but it seems like the way writers think.
The franchise made sense until terminator 3 came in. Now I'm gonna risk my movie nerd pass for this, but terminator salvation was pretty decent, and surprisingly I prefer terminator 3 over genisys (even though terminator 3 was still pretty bad). Genisys literally ripped off the 3rd and 2nd movie, not to mention the Sarah Connor chronicles show which I thought was well done. The ONLY thing good about Genisys was Arnold coming back and doing what he does best. Other than that this franchise is going down the drain.
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you actually explained it pretty good. it makes a lot of sense. unfortunately no amount of explanation can do any good for T3 & salvation. yuck. can we all just pretend those movies never happened?
some people wont
+BreachingTBone well you know how the timelines are going but it makes no sense.. T1 and T3 have the fate time travel model T2 and T5 have the alternate timelines time travel model.. no sense.. at least T4 didnt some up with the third time travel model.. it actually didnt make any time travel which in this franchise bends to the convenience of the writers..
+Omari Thompson Fanboys where butt hurt because, no plasma weapons.
Ok I understand it alot better now. It's starting to make sense. Great upload man.
What interests me about time-travel movies, is that most of the ones I've seen ignore the time-travel paradox concept.
I call bullshit on predestination paradox. There has to be an original timeline before paradoxes can happen. The first Terminator film created a paradox, by having Kyle Reese become John's Father. There's no way Kyle could be John's original Father in the original timeline.
Unless John's father in the original timeline was Kyle Reese, but a completly different one from the timetravel version.
the original shit is that there was no reese and the t800 sent back to the 70s thus normal 70s
The time line wasn't even confusing. Primer was way crazier in terms of timelines.
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I guess I'm the only person that actually liked ALL the terminator films lol
salvation was eh
+Saitama salvation could have had an ending that changed everything but apparently the test audience hated the ending so we got the nonsensical crapfest instead. Hurray for focus groups.
What about when Sarah says "Pops doesn't kill anyone he takes alot of leg shots" totally nods to Uncle Bob in T2 thats a really BIG clue your are forgetting
That Primer movie reference right off the bat. I always tell people how lost I was in that movie. And I can follow movies. So unpredictable. I still haven't braved a second try.
How has Kyle Reese always been John Connor's father if he never went back in time until T1?
+FinnThePlanespotter Sounds legit 😜
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_loop
i guess it's implied that it was pre-destined that Kyle Reese was gonna be sent back to 1984 to be John's father...
i guess there is no 1984 in any timeline without Reese arriving in it...
Great explanation of a terrible idea.
Salvation was actually alright. Genisys is the abomination because it dares to erase T2!!!
There was something else about the 1984 film, and I think you should know this. This is from IMDB:
"James Cameron's original idea was that Skynet would send two Terminators at once: one would be a cyborg, while the other would consist of liquid metal and was able to shape-shift (the resistance would also sent two humans, but one was to die during the time travel). Cameron realized early on that this latter effect could not be realized with the special effects at the time, so he abandoned it early on. When a completely computer-generated special effect proved to be a success in Cameron's The Abyss (1989), he revived the idea of the liquid Terminator for the sequel Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)."
So that means and probably implied that James Cameron had always wanted to distort time and ended up with a lot of confusion. That mean Skynet did send a lot of terminator to not only killed Sarah but probably also John too.
6:48 I mean Days of future past had happened in the comics in 1981 so Marvel did it before anyone else technically
it has been confirmed from the writers of t-gensys that the t-1000 that killed sarah's parents was the same one that was in 1984. In 1973, when the young Terminator arrives to protect Sarah, she’s just witnessed the death of her parents. The movie mentions “liquid metal” in the scene but the writers confirmed it was the same T-1000, played by Byung-hun Lee, seen later in the movie who was there. “So when she kills that thing in the acid, she’s killing the thing that killed her parents,” said Kalogridis. too bad robert patrick wasn't in it. he would have made a good t-1000 in the movie since he, like arnold is old and since pops gets older in 2017 with gray hair. Robert patrick was the best in playing the advanced terminators. he was colder, and more dark in the movie, the tx-9 i dont know. she was weaker in my opinion than the t-1000. she wasnt liquid metal. and arnold nearly took her out with a rocket launcher and she was all damaged after he landed the chopper on her in the end. if it was the t-1000, he would have just pulled himself back together.
+terry autry Nice. My explanation was the T-1000 comes from one of many timelines, just some unknown timeline, and he is just filling action scenes. However this is much better explanation and makes more sense since Sarah said she was on the run since childhood.
+terry autry Did they explain why Silberman (police psychologist) remembers Terminators from the past in Genisys film? Siberman in Genisys timeline shouldn't be able to remember terminators from T1, T2 and T3. According to Genisys timeline cops and Silberman never saw terminators (like in T1), Silberman was never a Sarah's doctor (T2 Silberman and T-800 in hospital) and Silberman never saw T-800 in T3 film (the graveyard scene where Silberman saw T-800).
that wasn't Dr Silverman. that old guy that you saw is one of the cops in the beginning of the movie who handcuffs kyle reese. one of the cops gets killed by the t-1000 and the other hides behind some desk with reese and uncuffs him, and then the terminator and sarah drive a truck into the building, the cop escapes because the t-000 was more interested in chasing sarah and kyle and pops. so the old guy in 2017 is the same guy from 84, the cop that uncuffs reese in the building. Silverman wasn't in the film. Because since the t-800 was killed on the spot soon as he got there, and since sarah already know what was going to happen, things didn't go like they would have in the first movie. in the first movie, t-800 chases sarah and kyle and that's when Sarah meets silverman. since this didnt happen in genysys It means silverman doesnt know anything about this. and He's not in 2017 because he's probably dead due to old age. And just scrap t-2 and the later films. none that never happened because of what we see in this movie. Skynet, from a different time line according to the writers is not the skynet you see in all the other films. this is a different one from another dimension. according to writers, he came from somewhere else. Skynet turned into human form and traveled through the different timelines and knew it would get beaten, so that's why he said to john when he attacked him, while reese was going back in time, he said ive come along ways to see you. that means skynet is telling john he came from far in the future. Skynet knew everything from what was going to happen in all the three timelines, so it just got tired of losing and finally went to 2029 and pushed judgement day to 2017 instead of 97.
and at the beginning of the film, the 2029 you see is the actual original 2029 from the first terminator. because according to writers, judgement day actually happened already in 97. so that means when you hear reese mention judgement day at the beginning of the film, he's referring to judgement day 97. but since the weird skynet came on the scene in 2029 history already changed. so that's why kyle was having all those memories. it's more like a life he would have lived in judgement day didnt happen in 97. Because the lady says kyle wasnt born til 2002. that means since the newly created 2017 timeline, judgement day never started. so just scrap terminators 2-4. and just rely on the first one and the last one. I say this because john sends kyle to 84, the first one. so that means t-2 hasnt happened yet or t-3. only difference is, since a terminator went to 73, things from 84 were still going to play out like in the first one but since sarah already knows, things didnt go as planned. thats why you see the t-800 from 84 there. it's because everyone was going to happen like in the first film. and that means there couldnt be a t-2 because cyberdynamics i think it was in the first film, couldnt become cyberdine nor could it make skynet in t-2. skynet was only created due to the chip from the first terminator. that's when skynet is being created already in the second film. so now it's like all tiemlines from Genyses 84 on forward are deleted and erased after sarah and kyle go to the future in 2017. they are actually in an alternate timeline from kyle's other memories. that's why john tells pops after beating him says you are nothing but a relic from a deleted timeline. all timelines from the past are already gone. But since skynet is still out there, that means in the sequel it will show up on the scene. and i dont think there will ever be another john connor. I think sarah and kyle will lead the new resistance along with pops since pops got upgraded to almost like a t-1000 which means he wont age anymore and it means his parts wont be rusted like you saw in Genysys. they said they are planning two sequels. so i hope we get to find out who sent pops and the t-1000 back.
+terry autry *mind blown* out of every theory and explanation this is a damn good one.
Here's the real explanation, Genesys fucked everything up and needs to be erased, that movie never happened, and let's never speak of it again
It doesn't even seem like that long ago genesis was out & already its 2019💬....
Tbh😂😂 I'm barely gonna watch it rn so I came to this video to recap, and now I'm lost😂
So this is why new Terminator look like original, because of changed timeline. Very nice, tnx for explanation. But Chris Bale is really good in playing John Connor.
Great video ! Thanks so much !
how is john connor even born in this geneshit alternate timeline? this movie doesnt make any sense...
+Mersad Cehajic He's born in another timeline and then sent back to one in which he's not, in the same way the T-800 and T-1000 from T2 were created in another timeline and sent back to one in which they aren't.
Geneshit...😂😂
Terminator Salvation is amazing wtf
Genisys wasn't the greatest movie but it's a hell of a lot better than Dark Fate. I was actually wanting to know what the deal was with the terminators being sent back to the 70s but I guess that will never happen...
My head about to explode. Just watched Terminator Genisis I think it’s one of the best movie since T2.
There’s a video that discusses that the original 1984 Terminator movie has 3 timelines and we’re watching the 3rd timeline. It actually makes a lot of sense
Endgame was less complicated
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I still don't get how is Kyle John's father it just doesn't make sense
Güvenç Arı Just forget Genisys and focus on T1. Just like the guy in the video said, the events in T1 where part of the history, Kyle will always go back in time, there are no paradox because in the history of Terminator all the events that leads to the war in 2029 happen that exact way. In fact:
Skynet might never actually tried to kill Sarah in the first place, its a AI so it has no emotions, even loosing the war wont matter to it, Skynet just was making sure that all the event happen. Sending back the firs Terminator to 1984 pused John to send Kyle back, that terminator being destroyed lead to Skynet creation. If Skynet knew that it would do that in order to exist. Sjynet always knew that its first T800 would fail, sent it back to fail and be created.
Then T2 happen and, acordingt to James Cameron, the war never happen and John and Sarah are the only leftover of a timeline that no longer exist and will never do. There are no alternate universe, just the main one was replaced by a new one and only the Connor will ever know
Jurgen Nerdcast thank you for the very detailed information :)
Güvenç Arı I actually have another theory. In the original timeline, before all time-travel happens, the father of John Connor is Kyle Reese's grandfather (also possibly named Kyle Reese), who in 1984 would be around the same age as Kyle Reese in 2029 (T1). Then, after the war happens and Kyle Reese is sent from the future, he changes the timeline and Sarah Connor never meets his grandfather.
Güvenç Arı He put is man bits into Sarah's woman bits, y'know.
+Jurgen Nerdcast What do you mean according to James Cameron? Cameron never changed history in his films.
You forgot The Sarah Connor Chronicles, lol. That takes place on a fourth timeline after T2, and also REALLY explores the issue of multiple timelines with Skynet and Tech Com sending back multiple machines/people. Shame they never finished the series, it was getting really interesting too (plus I loved the cast, especially Lena Headey and Summer Glau, =)
Thanks a lot for the video, it's the best one at explaining the timeline
An at the end of the day this leaves u with the blank face.............what........what he say
Amir Walker Hahaha.
NewMediaRockstars seriously is there anything that time travel does explain. Tbh this should teach us a lesson on not to tume travel.
Amir Walker Actually this is the clearest, most enertaining summary I've found so far!
That O'Brien guy could have sent the Guardian T-800 Model 101 to 1973 to protect Sarah Connor, his character has been confirmed for the next movie.
Take a look at this: geektyrant.com/news/speculation-on-detective-obriens-larger-role-in-terminator-genisys
VERY Entertaining. Great job Dave and gang.......
You forgot to explain how Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles fits in the timeline especially due to bank vault time travel and Cromartie.
I have only two questions:
How did T-800 from 1973 manage so easily to upgrade himself to be basically T-1000?
And how is ending of Terminator Genisys with Genisys/Skynet surviving the explosion going to play out since anyone who finds it will notice its kinda psychopatic nature?
Predestination Paradox, or as Star trek called it; a causality loop. Just throwing it out there.
An interesting theory there. In-fact that reminds me of how the so called Kelvin timeline came to be in the star trek universe not to mention how Lucasfilm and Disney wiped the history slate of the star wars universe clean and re created the star wars timeline itself hence leading to the so called JJ-verse courtesy of JJ Abrams in the star trek franchise with the reboot JJ trek films which i class as part of the Kelvin series known as Star Trek Kelvin were as Disney completely screwed up the Starwars universe.
Why wasn't the tv show Sarah Connor Chronicle's mentioned? yes it was a tv series instead of movie however it had 2 seasons and nearly had a 3rd, so basically there we're 3 timelines not just 2.
the first judgement day didnt happen because black explodey guy didnt have a terminator part to examine that was in terminator 1 at the end of the movie
This video does not include the most recent movies so it is not the complete timeline. Please update.
This is actually a great explanation