What a great guy old Dai was. I can remember going on holiday to Barrie Butlins in about 85 I think and as we passed Woodhams all I could see was lowloaders hauling steam engins onto them. Totally top bloke.
I totally despise snarky reporters. "An old hulk?" Obviously, he didn't see the beauty of that "old hulk". She's beautiful. All of those engines were beautiful and masterful pieces of engineering. They deserved to be restored. No need to question the merits of preservation.
heelfan1234 If some of them could be restored, they can be auctioned off to rail museums around the world. True, some of them are beyond hope and could be scrapped. But, history needs to be preserved.
If anybody deserves a posthumous knighthood, it's this man. I'll never forget the first time I saw a great western loco, and there would be a lot less of them around if it wasn't for him. They should put a statue of him up in the NRM. With a brass dog turd next to it bearing the name of one Richard Beeching.
If I'd had the money, and had lived near there about 30-40 years ago, I'd have bought each and every one of these brilliant machines. Such a shame. It's such a sad fate, and even sadder to know that these engines put in years of hard work, earned people money, and are so beautiful to look at, and then to end up, mistreated, rusty and lonely in the scrapyard. Thank god most of these beautiful machines where saved.
I so remember playing around the scrapyard as a teenager. I remember being chased all over the place by various old boys down there trying to stop peeps tresspassing. The sight of hundreds of locos arcing into the distance as you came over the bridge onto the Island I will never forget. I watched as they low loaded 3502 from the bridge. took they hours !
I remember my dad having them on video too when I was young, since found out it is from the BBC the train now departing series, it was released on video, great vid thanks for uploading
Steam engines require a lot of money and effort. Do you really wish hell on Dr Beeching for trying to modernise BR and make it more profitable and competitive? The 60's was a decade where we went to the Moon. The fact steam traction lasted until 1968 in the UK is a testament to BR. In the US it was about 1962 and in some parts of Europe (who had to start over after the war) even earlier. Count yourself lucky it soldiered on to the end of "The Swinging Sixties" in our blessed isle.
Dai did us all a great service. It was easier to cut up the wagons, but Dai did more. He was prepared to hold onto and sell the engines on as scrap to preservationists over the years. We can all thank Dai for this. In his way he saved some of the lucky ones, and you can tell even in his voice how pleased he was that the engines were brought back to pristine condition. Without his actions we would all be all the less for their entire departure as scrap to the steelworks of Britain. And the preservationists restored them, and brought these magnificent beautiful machines back to life. The reporter has obviously not the faintest idea about the beauty, majesty, and grace of a steam locomotive. All he saw was a dead lump of scrap metal....but, ah.....look again and beyond this.....there is life in that seemingly dead lump of metal yet. And now? Instead of rumbling around the steam preservation trusts of Britain, these engines should be given the chance to once again stretch their legs on mainline tracks. The people love steam locomotives, and always have. Steam locomotives have earned their right to run some services on main line tracks.
I could not agree more. Both my grandfathers were steam engine drivers, three uncles were firemen, one uncle went from oily rag (cleaner) to senior instructor at BR (even driving 4000 Kestrel, the most powerful diesel locomotive on BR at that time), and one uncle was a top link driver on the Big Lizzies (Princess Coronation Class Locos) on the West Coast route of the LMS out of Euston. He was a 'Westie', formerly of the LNWR before it merged with the LMS, and had driven just about all of them, and knew their maintenance histories, and all the subtle pecadillos required to get the best performance out of each of them in terms of firing and driving. Not only that, he had driven most of the Royal Scot locomotives, and a good many of the Patriot Class and Jubilee Class locos too in a career that started in the early 1920's. All the reporter saw was a rusting hulk of scrap. But look deeper and you will see that she is still there just waiting to be given life again. Steam locomotives are beautiful in their looks, movement, sound, and even their smell. I grew up with them as a boy, hauling coal from Shirebrook Colliery. The WD Austerity Class (Wobblers), 9F's (Spaceships), Robinson O4's etc etc. I agree whole heartedly that steam locomotives have earned their right to take up mainline services again. It was the worst thing that BR ever did dispensing with them, and as one grandfather noted, it was a judgement on BR when the oil crisis of the early 70's dawned for the far too rapid removal of steam.
@@MrMoggyman I disagree. I think all the steam locomotives should have been ripped apart with cutting torches and melted down for scrap as soon as possible.
@@Jimboliah3985 As the video says, the locomotives were smashed, cut, and broken up into little pieces ready for melting. We have learned from the great Cockroach and heelfan to celebrate the scrapping of locomotives. Burn the locos and cut them apart!
As I pointed out in a reply to another comment, not only did Dai take a chance on the preservationists, he was being fair on his own employees in the first place. Whilst his company did scrap a few engines, the concern for not pushing his staff just for the sake of meeting a high demand for scrap would most certainly have been a contributing factor to most being put to one side in pending. Dai was not only a willing beneficial contributor to the railway preservation scene - he was a practical businessman.
I'm very sure that Dai felt like a better man for selling the majority of the steam engines in his yard to preservationists. It should speak wonders that, although he was a scrap merchant, he ended up being arguably one of the biggest heroes in UK steam locomotive preservation. Heck, I heard on a podcast interview about Barry Scrapyard that he was initially forbidden from selling the engines, so the fact he sold as many as he did and even managed to convince BR into letting the engines get sold for the sake of posperity and keeping a small part of the past alive, made it even more rewarding. Making a good amount of money was just a nice bonus for him. He may have had a bit of a nitty gritty job, but I dare to say he had a heart of gold, as just like the preservationists, he looked past the rusty decaying exterior of the steam engines in his yard and saw that plenty of them had a good amount of life left in them that can be unleashed after a good refurbishment. And I'm willing to bet he would have been even more impressed with the societies and trusts biulding brand new steam locomotives based on extinct designs right now.
293 locomotives went in 213 came out are the figures I read. Fair dues to Dai Woodham. The steam preservation movement would have had a lot less locos .
If anyone can point me to any photos online of this viaduct either in working condition or modern state would be appreciated. This is a great little video, thanks for posting it. Russell - Idaho USA
As this generation saved steam for future people like me, it will be my generation saving the old diesel locomotives like the class 60's and 58's for future generations. Thank god I am a railway enthusiast and live next to Toton Traction depot in Sandiacre and can saved some of the old diesel stock...
pepole like you have killed the golden age of steam, for some pepole when thesse great steam trains died, a large piece of us die two, youre just here to make shure the steam age is never to be re told, pepole like you crush dreams pepole like us try saving dreams, no offense
Hey, i love steam engines. my family worked on them in 50's at the Stanton Iron Works, but we still loco's aside steam that need preserving because of this shit government constantly 'modernizing' the network and shipping in from abroad.
What saved the engines was the wagons, Dai had to fulfill tonnage of scrap quotas to keep BR happy, it was easier to reach these quotas bu cutting up wagons which took a lot less time than the loco's, all BR were interested in was the money they got per ton, they didn't care whether Dai sold it as scrap to the South Wales steel works, or to preservationists, neither for that matter did Dai.
Dail Woodham should have brought in some more crews of torch men to cut the steam locos as well. It's poor business to buy something and let it stand around for years before processing it. Net present value of capital scheme. Cut steam locomotives for scrap and melt them down.
@@pmonkeygeezer6212 I think Dai was equally as concerned about the well-being of his employees. He didn't see a point of putting his cutting staff under peer pressure just for the sake of meeting a big demand for scrap like other merchants - so he placed the easier tasks like wagons as priority. A few engines sent to Barry were indeed scrapped there but most were stored 'for a rainy day', and as more and more preservationists began to look there Dai saw the potential in profit there of selling them on for restoration to working order. Dai's approach makes for a good businessman in my book.
@@samuelfarris1949 not to mention historical value. It really irritates me when someone can look at something like this and only see the steel put into it, as opposed to the tales, triumphs, tragedies, etc. that went into them.
Oh please, the Lord Beeching bashing is getting a bit silly now. I read a great article by a hardocre railway historian who dispelled a lot of the myths about Beeching. He wasn't the badguy. In a way, British Rail was for being so cumbersome and expensive. All Beeching was doing was his job. Make BR more effective. Is it also his fault that by then, most people owned a car and didn't need to travel on small branchlines?
He worked in collusion with Ernest Marples who had vested interest in motorway building. So yes he is partly responsible and always will be. The road lobby and the road hauliers association all successfully undermined our railways. Have a look at Ian Hislops tv series on Beeching gives a balanced view
For some reason, I have it in my mind that it's the Somerset and Dorset but I probably just made that up. If it helps, this was taken from the TV series "The Train Now Departing" and you can watch full episodes on the BBC website (possibly only in the UK).
Very True... but if he didn't destroy branch lines would we still want to use them for preservation today. If all the countries branch lines were never destroyed then... would they still be used now? probably not as much. If Beeching didn't do what he did the preservation would be so much different and we would probably only have museums and railtour companies but very little in the way of branch line organisations.
i remember having a video when i was younger with the same into as this video, it must be part of a series. where did you obtain this from? do you have any more?
More recently I read that they want to close the Oxenholm-Windermere line Both my parents worked on Windermere station in the 1950's. It was so busy in those days with extra sidings and platforms for parking for day trip outings.
Even if Dr Beeching hadn't recommended wiping steam from the network, locomotives wouldn't have survived much longer. Although he did make some irrational decisions as British Railways Chairman, railway closures wasn't a new idea, and surely this was the fate of Uk lines anyway.
@cornholio435 why? he wasn't the one who condemmed all the steam? and more miles of railway were closed down before his report was published in 1963 than after
@caseyjonesfan Dr Beeching was a man who made the 'beeching report', in an attempt to cut spending costs, he closed down many many branch lines, stations etc, about 4000 route miles in total, and sent steam to the scrapyards to modernise the rail networks, using diesel power. despite all this, it made hardly any difference.
True , but examples of all the classes of locomotives you mentioned survive in preservation. The first two you mentioned, were the last steam locomotives scrapped at woodhams yard. The reason was because of a shortage of railway wagons. Mr. Woodham didn't want to layout many of his employees, hence why those two locomotives were scrapped.
In the same decade of Concorde and flying to the Moon were still using steam engines. Some nations dumped them right after the war for electrical and diesel locomotives. Evening Star was also a special case. She was never used in the same way other 9F's were. She was a celebrity locomotive. Funny how so many diesels from that day and age are still thundering on today though isn't it? So much for being unreliable. Much less effort too. Classes 37, 08, 20, 31, 86 amongst others.
@@andyg3 Well that's your opinion! I was merely pointing out the increased awareness of heritage diesels since you made your original post. For many youngsters diesels do have a type of romance since that is what they grew up with.
Dye Woodham should have a bloody huge statue to making so many trains still available..
What a great guy old Dai was. I can remember going on holiday to Barrie Butlins in about 85 I think and as we passed Woodhams all I could see was lowloaders hauling steam engins onto them. Totally top bloke.
Cut these scrap locos for scrap!
@pmonkeygeezer6212 keep your worthless views to yourself, spastic retard. Got it.
I totally despise snarky reporters. "An old hulk?" Obviously, he didn't see the beauty of that "old hulk". She's beautiful. All of those engines were beautiful and masterful pieces of engineering. They deserved to be restored. No need to question the merits of preservation.
heelfan1234 If some of them could be restored, they can be auctioned off to rail museums around the world. True, some of them are beyond hope and could be scrapped. But, history needs to be preserved.
great words, im shure if all of the pepole against scrapping steam engni=gines combine we could save almost all of them
FredBear'sFamilyRecord No we must scrap them all. In any case this scrapyard has now been emptied. Some were cut, some were dismantled and stored.
+heelfan1234 You blurted nonsense here too....you rotten piece of shit
A Singh What was nonsense? Every word was the truth.
If anybody deserves a posthumous knighthood, it's this man. I'll never forget the first time I saw a great western loco, and there would be a lot less of them around if it wasn't for him. They should put a statue of him up in the NRM. With a brass dog turd next to it bearing the name of one Richard Beeching.
Magic, Pure magic! Your a hero Dia.
If I'd had the money, and had lived near there about 30-40 years ago, I'd have bought each and every one of these brilliant machines.
Such a shame. It's such a sad fate, and even sadder to know that these engines put in years of hard work, earned people money, and are so beautiful to look at, and then to end up, mistreated, rusty and lonely in the scrapyard.
Thank god most of these beautiful machines where saved.
I so remember playing around the scrapyard as a teenager. I remember being chased all over the place by various old boys down there trying to stop peeps tresspassing.
The sight of hundreds of locos arcing into the distance as you came over the bridge onto the Island I will never forget.
I watched as they low loaded 3502 from the bridge. took they hours !
Fortunately Railway Enthusiasts are undoing Beechings work and creating British heritage which generate a lot of money for the Uk
I remember my dad having them on video too when I was young, since found out it is from the BBC the train now departing series, it was released on video, great vid thanks for uploading
Brilliant what a stunning engine Thank you. for restoring her .
God bless Dia Woodham.
Richard Beeching. Subconsciously an early adopter of limiting carbon emissions :P
As a kid growing up in Barry my dad used to take me and my brother down to what was the best PLAY-GROUD EVER
Thank you dai woodham for what you done for inenvertly to keep the steam locomotives to the end RIP dai woodham
port line looks absolutely grand after its overhaul
Steam engines require a lot of money and effort. Do you really wish hell on Dr Beeching for trying to modernise BR and make it more profitable and competitive?
The 60's was a decade where we went to the Moon. The fact steam traction lasted until 1968 in the UK is a testament to BR. In the US it was about 1962 and in some parts of Europe (who had to start over after the war) even earlier. Count yourself lucky it soldiered on to the end of "The Swinging Sixties" in our blessed isle.
Well the Steam Engines that aren't Scrapped are now running on Heritage Railways all over the United Kingdom.
dia woodham is steam hero
big respect to him
Man, Woodham had a really soft spot for steam engines. :)
Dai did us all a great service. It was easier to cut up the wagons, but Dai did more. He was prepared to hold onto and sell the engines on as scrap to preservationists over the years. We can all thank Dai for this. In his way he saved some of the lucky ones, and you can tell even in his voice how pleased he was that the engines were brought back to pristine condition. Without his actions we would all be all the less for their entire departure as scrap to the steelworks of Britain. And the preservationists restored them, and brought these magnificent beautiful machines back to life. The reporter has obviously not the faintest idea about the beauty, majesty, and grace of a steam locomotive. All he saw was a dead lump of scrap metal....but, ah.....look again and beyond this.....there is life in that seemingly dead lump of metal yet. And now? Instead of rumbling around the steam preservation trusts of Britain, these engines should be given the chance to once again stretch their legs on mainline tracks. The people love steam locomotives, and always have. Steam locomotives have earned their right to run some services on main line tracks.
I could not agree more. Both my grandfathers were steam engine drivers, three uncles were firemen, one uncle went from oily rag (cleaner) to senior instructor at BR (even driving 4000 Kestrel, the most powerful diesel locomotive on BR at that time), and one uncle was a top link driver on the Big Lizzies (Princess Coronation Class Locos) on the West Coast route of the LMS out of Euston. He was a 'Westie', formerly of the LNWR before it merged with the LMS, and had driven just about all of them, and knew their maintenance histories, and all the subtle pecadillos required to get the best performance out of each of them in terms of firing and driving. Not only that, he had driven most of the Royal Scot locomotives, and a good many of the Patriot Class and Jubilee Class locos too in a career that started in the early 1920's. All the reporter saw was a rusting hulk of scrap. But look deeper and you will see that she is still there just waiting to be given life again. Steam locomotives are beautiful in their looks, movement, sound, and even their smell. I grew up with them as a boy, hauling coal from Shirebrook Colliery. The WD Austerity Class (Wobblers), 9F's (Spaceships), Robinson O4's etc etc. I agree whole heartedly that steam locomotives have earned their right to take up mainline services again. It was the worst thing that BR ever did dispensing with them, and as one grandfather noted, it was a judgement on BR when the oil crisis of the early 70's dawned for the far too rapid removal of steam.
@@MrMoggyman I disagree. I think all the steam locomotives should have been ripped apart with cutting torches and melted down for scrap as soon as possible.
@@Jimboliah3985 As the video says, the locomotives were smashed, cut, and broken up into little pieces ready for melting.
We have learned from the great Cockroach and heelfan to celebrate the scrapping of locomotives. Burn the locos and cut them apart!
As I pointed out in a reply to another comment, not only did Dai take a chance on the preservationists, he was being fair on his own employees in the first place. Whilst his company did scrap a few engines, the concern for not pushing his staff just for the sake of meeting a high demand for scrap would most certainly have been a contributing factor to most being put to one side in pending. Dai was not only a willing beneficial contributor to the railway preservation scene - he was a practical businessman.
I'm very sure that Dai felt like a better man for selling the majority of the steam engines in his yard to preservationists. It should speak wonders that, although he was a scrap merchant, he ended up being arguably one of the biggest heroes in UK steam locomotive preservation. Heck, I heard on a podcast interview about Barry Scrapyard that he was initially forbidden from selling the engines, so the fact he sold as many as he did and even managed to convince BR into letting the engines get sold for the sake of posperity and keeping a small part of the past alive, made it even more rewarding. Making a good amount of money was just a nice bonus for him.
He may have had a bit of a nitty gritty job, but I dare to say he had a heart of gold, as just like the preservationists, he looked past the rusty decaying exterior of the steam engines in his yard and saw that plenty of them had a good amount of life left in them that can be unleashed after a good refurbishment. And I'm willing to bet he would have been even more impressed with the societies and trusts biulding brand new steam locomotives based on extinct designs right now.
293 locomotives went in 213 came out are the figures I read. Fair dues to Dai Woodham. The steam preservation movement would have had a lot less locos .
Dai what a top man nuff said.
no loco's or lines left there now,just waste ground,even dai woodham has gone
Ah! The reassuring voice of narrator Anthony Smith.
2:00 -
So very sad to see all of those wonderful steamers...dying.
"Magic, pure magic..."
Well he was mostly right.
92245 right behind him, is being broken up for parts for 92212.
Praise to the various preservation societies who never let steam die out and provided a small renaissance for it.
If anyone can point me to any photos online of this viaduct either in working condition or modern state would be appreciated.
This is a great little video, thanks for posting it.
Russell - Idaho USA
there really is a difference between a steam engine rusting away in a scrap yard than one fired up :)
if it wern't for Dai Woodham there wouldn't be half the engines there is to day
As this generation saved steam for future people like me, it will be my generation saving the old diesel locomotives like the class 60's and 58's for future generations. Thank god I am a railway enthusiast and live next to Toton Traction depot in Sandiacre and can saved some of the old diesel stock...
pepole like you have killed the golden age of steam, for some pepole when thesse great steam trains died, a large piece of us die two, youre just here to make shure the steam age is never to be re told, pepole like you crush dreams pepole like us try saving dreams,
no offense
Hey, i love steam engines. my family worked on them in 50's at the Stanton Iron Works, but we still loco's aside steam that need preserving because of this shit government constantly 'modernizing' the network and shipping in from abroad.
For me I will be helping to preserve existing locomotives and helping to build a New One a Claud Hamilton D16/2
Memorial of the beatiful steam Trains
1937-1968 RIP steam
Magdalena Chołys 1804 - present*
That Merchant Navy class engine is beautiful again. 35027 port line will always be beautiful and she'll go on forever. :)
Nice video. Thanks for uploading. Thumbs up!
What saved the engines was the wagons, Dai had to fulfill tonnage of scrap quotas to keep BR happy, it was easier to reach these quotas bu cutting up wagons which took a lot less time than the loco's, all BR were interested in was the money they got per ton, they didn't care whether Dai sold it as scrap to the South Wales steel works, or to preservationists, neither for that matter did Dai.
Dail Woodham should have brought in some more crews of torch men to cut the steam locos as well. It's poor business to buy something and let it stand around for years before processing it. Net present value of capital scheme. Cut steam locomotives for scrap and melt them down.
@@pmonkeygeezer6212 I think Dai was equally as concerned about the well-being of his employees. He didn't see a point of putting his cutting staff under peer pressure just for the sake of meeting a big demand for scrap like other merchants - so he placed the easier tasks like wagons as priority. A few engines sent to Barry were indeed scrapped there but most were stored 'for a rainy day', and as more and more preservationists began to look there Dai saw the potential in profit there of selling them on for restoration to working order. Dai's approach makes for a good businessman in my book.
@@samuelfarris1949 not to mention historical value. It really irritates me when someone can look at something like this and only see the steel put into it, as opposed to the tales, triumphs, tragedies, etc. that went into them.
Oh please, the Lord Beeching bashing is getting a bit silly now.
I read a great article by a hardocre railway historian who dispelled a lot of the myths about Beeching. He wasn't the badguy. In a way, British Rail was for being so cumbersome and expensive. All Beeching was doing was his job. Make BR more effective.
Is it also his fault that by then, most people owned a car and didn't need to travel on small branchlines?
He worked in collusion with Ernest Marples who had vested interest in motorway building. So yes he is partly responsible and always will be. The road lobby and the road hauliers association all successfully undermined our railways. Have a look at Ian Hislops tv series on Beeching gives a balanced view
Amazing memories
Have a look at my Barry photography webesite on FLICKR
Taffytank Barry scrapyard
wonderful!!
For some reason, I have it in my mind that it's the Somerset and Dorset but I probably just made that up. If it helps, this was taken from the TV series "The Train Now Departing" and you can watch full episodes on the BBC website (possibly only in the UK).
long live steam trains
He is the father of working railway museums if not for him
Hmm. He was just a clever businessman, that's all.
Very True... but if he didn't destroy branch lines would we still want to use them for preservation today. If all the countries branch lines were never destroyed then... would they still be used now? probably not as much. If Beeching didn't do what he did the preservation would be so much different and we would probably only have museums and railtour companies but very little in the way of branch line organisations.
The people at BR and such didn't relish cutting their faithful friends up. To pretend otherwise is foolish. But such is life.
i will donate the brass.....gladly
i remember having a video when i was younger with the same into as this video, it must be part of a series. where did you obtain this from? do you have any more?
Isn’t this”the train now departing” series?
@@connormclernon26 I don't think he's still looking for the answer 13 years later.
RPSI78 you are right he is a hero
any idea where the opening(and closing)scene was filmed?
thanks,was wondering how i missed the closure of settle-carlisle line
More recently I read that they want to close the Oxenholm-Windermere line
Both my parents worked on Windermere station in the 1950's. It was so busy in those days with extra sidings and platforms for parking for day trip outings.
Even if Dr Beeching hadn't recommended wiping steam from the network, locomotives wouldn't have survived much longer. Although he did make some irrational decisions as British Railways Chairman, railway closures wasn't a new idea, and surely this was the fate of Uk lines anyway.
@cornholio435 why? he wasn't the one who condemmed all the steam? and more miles of railway were closed down before his report was published in 1963 than after
Shame about that 9f Dai Woodham was talking about it hasnt been bought or touched real shame...
@caseyjonesfan
Dr Beeching was a man who made the 'beeching report', in an attempt to cut spending costs, he closed down many many branch lines, stations etc, about 4000 route miles in total, and sent steam to the scrapyards to modernise the rail networks, using diesel power.
despite all this, it made hardly any difference.
This is despite the fact many companies were introducing electrics and diesels before he come along right?
Not all engines at Barry were saved,
A BR 9F,
A GWR Prairie
Two SR West Country Bulleid pacifics
and probably more.
True , but examples of all the classes of locomotives you mentioned survive in preservation. The first two you mentioned, were the last steam locomotives scrapped at woodhams yard. The reason was because of a shortage of railway wagons. Mr. Woodham didn't want to layout many of his employees, hence why those two locomotives were scrapped.
Such a shame seeing so many locos scrapped, out of interest is there any locos left at Barry?
ah the council own the land now and with it own a 9F and a stanier 5MT rusting away.
Connor Gates is it still there?
0:35 - Man, wear freaking SAFETY GLASSES!
I'm terribly sorry for replying a decade later, but they're called goggles
Which steam loco would that be?
Why?
An IC125 can do London to Scotland faster than any steam locomotive did without the need for coal, water etc.
Where is that closed line at the start?
Lowgill Viaduct, Cumbria
intro*
@RPSI1718541864613BG hows beacching what he do
In the same decade of Concorde and flying to the Moon were still using steam engines. Some nations dumped them right after the war for electrical and diesel locomotives.
Evening Star was also a special case. She was never used in the same way other 9F's were. She was a celebrity locomotive.
Funny how so many diesels from that day and age are still thundering on today though isn't it? So much for being unreliable. Much less effort too.
Classes 37, 08, 20, 31, 86 amongst others.
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@littlegiant18794
@RPSI1718541864613BG Dia isn't hero he intended to cut them up, but in the end he played a helping part in their saving.
theres no romance in diesel
well that comment didn't age well !
@@steveluckhurst2350 how so.
Diesels are still crap!
@@andyg3 Well that's your opinion! I was merely pointing out the increased awareness of heritage diesels since you made your original post. For many youngsters diesels do have a type of romance since that is what they grew up with.
This is horrible
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