DAK (Italian Combined Arms) Build Order - Company of Heroes 3
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- čas přidán 11. 03. 2023
- In this video I explain one build order that you can do for the DAK faction in Company of Heroes 3. Specifically using the Italian Combined Arms battlegroup.
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You know that the meta is off when the best BO is sto spam pioneers
I feels like Relic is absolutely unable to predict the meta of their games. Like the game is balanced by 900s elo players...
@@csabas.6342 that's because the best players use the most meta strats most of the time
That’s how you know the meta is on.
keep going with the build order videos!!
one thing I think is very important about this build is that having no skills that would require ammo (lotier, artlillery, etc), you can literally invest them all in mines to apply on the field, which at any stage of the game can be the difference between winning and losing
Yeah and it didn’t look like the carro has a munitions upgrade either, meaning you’re just getting 4 pioneer upgrades and then maybe a machine gun for panzerjagers. Plus all your infantry is engineers! Very good point, now all I have to do is remember to put mines down…
Ok, i will wait for werchmaht, and i'm stay save. Thx Hans
i won a game using 4 berg squads and 1 medical truck,,,,,, pushed them back to their base and held them there while reinforcing on top of them....:D
never saw this playing agaist Dak, people tend to use 90% Bersaglieri as infantry line
i used to do this, it's way too expensive and you will not be able to afford any tech. it will also delay your carro armatos. this strat is more economical and synergizes better i think.
for the tungsten armor(dp up) this is what I gathered.
The upgrade allows for the rad to hard counter the greyhound when it originally soft-countered it with smoke tech.
dp up makes carros ability almost useless but I think activating the rounds still increases damge by a small fraction
DP ups along with all the hp ups turns the carro essentially into a p3 that hits like a p4.
in short, Carro > p3
I havn't played much Axis, didn't know panzerpioneers had bad range.
I would love a video about diffrent infantryrange across all the factions!
they don't. they use kar98 so use them at range in cover and they are really effective for a 200mp cost. thats why this strat is broken. DAK supremacy
Airborn gang seems to wipe the floor with this build. Was seeing this build most of the day but they never stood a chance.
i motion this
Nothing stands any chance against airborne gang except good micro.
True, nothings stands any chance gainst any brit or airborne blob horror. Its company of blob atm. At least as brits or US. Its so God damn easy and so hard for the enemy to punish you. What is a very bad sign for faction design.
I don’t think this build is easy to execute, especially against an early game elite infantry strat like paratroopers that can get bazookas. That’s hard for most DAK builds. I’d like to see Hans use the build on a game to see how he might deal with it, because I agree that airborne would seem quite difficult.
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Try this instead: 3 pio total => 250 => flamethrower or Bike => 3 pio total => 250 => flamethrower. 250+ flamethrower not only is amazing it gives you very early wipe potential. Doesn't matter if it is royal engi, mg, pathfinder. It universally works and the fourth pio is too much anyway as you usually weaken yourself if you manually repair. What you do instead is upgrade your T2 to T2.5 to get self-repair going early at a fraction of the fuel cost. Now you also got the stug if you want it.
Vic wise you really should go 8-rad => Marder. If a tank comes you can still equalize by using the vet 1 ability of the 8-rad increasing the reload speed of the marder making it way too dangerous for a single vic to contest it. 8-rad buffing two marders is unbeliebable anti vic dps.
The bike is also crucial as it basically allows you to soften up the first capping unit, go back to your capping pio => heal and once vet 1 it substantially increases the damage the focus target you like gets.
8-rad + bike buff will murder bazooka squads. It cannot challenge it anymore.
I would also take the assault gren call-in early. Then you have a big wipe threat on either side of the map. For me this is usually how it goes Bike, pio,pio, 240, T1, MG, T2, 8-rad, Vic HP upgrade, Marder T2.5, Self-repair.
The tungsten core ammunition also increases damage of the affected guns by 20%, so its worth it to prioritize it before you carro timing if you are fighting an early Stuart as it'll make the 8-rad have more bite
Tungsten core doesn't do anything except for 20mm armed units(flak, 8 rad, etc) and panzer 3. And it does not increase damage.
Tooltip is a lie.
my build order is kneaded dough, tomato sauce, mozzarella cheese and a brick oven
Just tried this out. Ridiculous how easy the game was. So I checked my opponents elo and it was above what I normally get matched against.
I use the same commander and use 3 pizza man squad, really struggle with mp I am afraid if use all pioneers won't stand a chance against infantry
if brit uses matilda or churchill(thick armor), I think it's better to add 1 marder TD.
if brit uses BOYS spam, it's better to add 1or 2 STUG D. it has decent armor, more HP. so U can hold out for a long time against boys spam.
Nice, another Stug believer. It is so nice seeing it absorb volleys and volleys of boys at and even bazookas. Honestly, I personally think 8rad into 1-2 stugs and marder THEN mass Italian tanks is so much better than just rushing it. Boys AT and paratroopers with bazookas makes the rush far less viable especially since you can’t fight them with just pios and 8rad and 1 mg.
i did NOT know those halftracks heal over time when garrisoned ! :O
need 1 veterancy first
I can't figure this build out. I end up floating like 500mp while I wait for the timer on the panzerjager to complete. And I find the pioneers get bullied by any other mainline infantry.
I am surprised at how much Panzergrenadiers suck.
Quite interesting the way you pronounce "Carro"
I feel like this whole build can be countered with one single sniper... I'm not saying your build is weak, but the faction is, on 1v1.
The faction atm sucks sure,but a sniper is a horrible idea, and its why on finals against dak people always using one didnt build em.Too many cheap vehicles, even the bike can kill your sniper.
@@havocgr1976 Good luck spending additional manpower on a bike or something, delaying 8rad and Armanto.
@@zzizzi02 You dont even need a bike,it was just another exampleof an easy counter,all you need is just a halftrack, which even this guide suggests.Its not me saying or doing it, its the best players in COH.....They dont risk it, they never build the sniper vs DAK.They sure do vs Wehr though.That being said, DAK still lose , no sniper needed.
DAK is the 2nd strongest faction in 1v1s right now you just need good micro to make them work, plus building a sniper into dak might be one of the dumbest ideas I've heard. Even with this rush build, you are almost always going to vs an early 250, plus many high-level players start with a bike in this build, not to mention a sniper is 320mp, delaying any AT response to DAK, which is a easy way to lose to this build
@@josephgoebbels9065 For the top 50, maybe. But if a certain faction requires WAY MORE commitment than others to be strong, that faction is literallt weak. When you wanna look into any data, you generally wanna cut off top and bottom 10%, because 20% of data coming from extreme sides will never benefit anyone eventually.
how good is this in a team game?
I tried it in 4vs4 and they pushed near to my base before I was able to get grad :D
"Flakwörwöling" Im gonna write that down.
I suggest, according to the recent balance logic:
US seem to lean heavily on the weasel. We nerf it a bit and in return buff everything else the faction has. That should bring it in line with recent brit changes.
Brits prefer crusader over matilda, so we buff matilda further. Speed is raised by 120%, main gun penetration set to 900% so it keeps up with axis heavies we almost never see.
To not overbalance this compared to crusader, crusader now costs 100 mp less.
The DAK rely heavily on light vehicles, so 8Rad, Carro and flak vierling get nerfed.
250 has free heal that results in underuse of med truck and will therefore cost 100 munition now.
Motorcycle is still fast - we nerf it.
Wermacht... wehrmacht.
Africa Core? Or Afrikakorps?
Same pronunciation
It's actually pronounced Flak-Fearling as in being afraid.
If you are against a good british player this build has no chance in my opinion
can confirm. boys AT loves light tank spam. only way to have a chance is to give all your pioneers flamethrowers and charge with everything
not a fan of this build, pioneers are terrible vs other squads, cant think of a single infantry unit they can go toe to toe with. I think this is a very risky strategy that can easily be out played by simply being aggressive
Want to lose?Play DAK ;p Game still has a looong way to becoming balanced, every patch they just change what is crap and what dominates.
DAK is one of the strongest 1v1 factions right now. People only say it's bad since you need a good level of micro to make them work. Its panzer elite in COH1 all over again
1 good placed mg against this and your done early game
The 250 is such a garbage unit compared to it's peers. It's made of paper,heal has terrible CD, all conversions must be unlocked via tech, horrible turn rate and it isn't even much cheaper then brit truck f.e. - which btw can even transform into med truck and still tow stuff!
DAK med truck was nerfed so the 'unfair in field heal' was less a deal... relic, 3 of your 4 factions have this mechanic! Why nerf only one??
What the hell are you smoking? Considering its peers are jeeps and dingos, the only thing that comes close to it in utility and combat is the weasel, which it by far outclasses plus, not to mention its opened top allowing squads to fire out of it put some flamers in there or assgrens and you dominate the early game, I'm guessing you don't know about the 250s vet 1? the part if you enter it, your squad gets healed? Yeah, its micro intensive, but frankly, you shouldn't be playing DAK if you have lousy Mirco
All the units seems weak, and powerless. Its just too fragile
This game is straight garbage with how broken everything is