Why it's so hard for Australian players to go pro in Europe

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  • @marcellosimi4733
    @marcellosimi4733 Před 13 dny +29

    Two major problem in Australia’s system is:
    1) there is no second professional division. So there is less competition for the players that are already in the a-league to have to keep improving to stay at the same level and we don’t see new players coming in.
    2) the government doesn’t fund the national premier league. In other countries like England, you just need the football ability to get into football academy’s, but in Australia you need to fund yourself with thousands of dollars and parents are not going to pay that.

    • @Juliano-wz2sg
      @Juliano-wz2sg Před 13 dny +7

      that second point is very accurate

    • @AlanDeriard
      @AlanDeriard  Před 10 dny +4

      100% agree with both points! personally I'll never forget not being able to afford to join my schools sport program and then having to play in a lower league youth team because NPL prices were too expensive for my parents. (this was all a Decade ago)
      Ultimately it will take a collective effort from fans, coaches and even agents (like myself) exporting talent before our government starts to pour more funding into our football like they do with other sports.

    • @Cayman23q-zf4ff
      @Cayman23q-zf4ff Před 10 dny +1

      Coaches are rubbish in Australia there lies the problem.

    • @twelveytwelve
      @twelveytwelve Před 10 dny +1

      When did this mythical second division exist?

    • @marcellosimi4733
      @marcellosimi4733 Před 9 dny

      @@twelveytwelve yes you are correct, I though the NSL used to be the second division, my bad.

  • @FootandBallAcademy
    @FootandBallAcademy Před 14 dny +11

    He is very accurate about the "desperation" element of foreign players trying to make it in Europe. I noticed this almost straight away, even at super low levels in England. I prefer to take a different approach when coaching on this issue today, though. I really hammer home the strength of the Australian work ethic, and encourage older players to start treating football like a job as early as possible. i.e. 16. If a young player really doubles down on the strengths of his work ethic and applies it to football, I believe it is a rival state of mind for that 'desperation' mind state from other players whilst really minimizing that emotional side of things needed to try and rival a 'desperate' need to succeed. Think of it like starting a small business, hustle hustle hustle. Drumming in genuine self respect, pride and a desire to 'protect' this when faced with adversity (like you say) will also yield better results in Europe. If you're mate is doing an apprenticeship here and working 9-12 hours a day, well guess what, you better be thinking about the rigor of your football schedule over there whilst trialing. Thoughts??

    • @AlanDeriard
      @AlanDeriard  Před 14 dny +3

      Fair perspective! some sound advice there!

  • @Cayman23q-zf4ff
    @Cayman23q-zf4ff Před 10 dny +4

    The coaching in Australia from the grass roots and up is terrible.Still coaching old english outdated style of play no matter what division you play in.Kick down the wings,cross,one two touches only.Small skillful players pushed aside for tall,big logs.Some things never change

  • @WildIlic
    @WildIlic Před 13 dny +10

    Hopefully Irankunda will put a name for aussie's in europe

  • @kenc2861
    @kenc2861 Před 15 dny +4

    Quality video bro!!

  • @wefinishthisnow3883
    @wefinishthisnow3883 Před 13 dny +6

    When my under 17's team made the NSW under 18's State Cup final, there should have been scouts everywhere like there would have been overseas. They could then take the best in, develop them and see if they can make it.
    But there were no scouts or anything and the next season our best player (who scored a goal that game) went to go play rugby league instead with his mates.

    • @AlanDeriard
      @AlanDeriard  Před 11 dny +4

      As my company expands this is something I want to start implementing AUS wide!

  • @tazoman26
    @tazoman26 Před 15 dny +32

    Australia needs to stop footy, a game that is only played in Australia only then we would see more Ausis in European football clubs.

    • @AlanDeriard
      @AlanDeriard  Před 15 dny +4

      It will take a while for the culture to change here for sure

    • @simonchua6251
      @simonchua6251 Před 13 dny +2

      It is an insular mindset for Aussies to love footy. Just like Americans love American football the most but we are not America

    • @callofduty3807
      @callofduty3807 Před 13 dny +6

      Soccer/football is not popular in Australia. I get it. Everyone thinks that their game is superoir to someother game, but Footy like AFL and NRL will always be more polpular then Soccer, it's just how it is. If Australia became one of the top teams in Fifa and could compete with Brazil, Italy, Gemrany and I hate to say it England, then maybe the shift will happen. But the last I checked we don't. It will also be like saying that you should like Tennis more then Cricket, it just won't happen because Cricket is the go to sport just like Rugby League and AFL are.

    • @ryanw2170
      @ryanw2170 Před 13 dny +5

      @@callofduty3807it’s not that straight forward when football’s participation numbers are by far the highest.

    • @YesSir-ms3uk
      @YesSir-ms3uk Před 13 dny +4

      It’ll never change soccer will always be the third or fourth sport in this country afl is ingrained in the culture then followed by rugby next

  • @Ausgaming20
    @Ausgaming20 Před 12 dny +3

    Thankfully for the local game from 2025 on we will have a second div and by the fact that all licences are set for renewal in 2028 (I think) we will see pro rel from then and it looks like we will have 16 teams in the a league by 2030

    • @AlanDeriard
      @AlanDeriard  Před 11 dny

      The ideal future of football looks great on paper, unfortunately we simply just don't produce enough $$$ here in Aus - A bunch of variables will need to change for us to start being competitive in all areas of football.

  • @BrodeyJames
    @BrodeyJames Před 13 dny +6

    A lot of Aussies don't have money mate that's the thing i know a lot of talented blokes but money wise they can't go to these camps and opportunities nice video tho keep it up mate

    • @AlanDeriard
      @AlanDeriard  Před 10 dny +2

      Agreed, we're not all blessed with Daddy's money! however, any teenager could save up to come to one of my events within a couple weeks of casual shifts without an issue (We did 3 events earlier this year with 9 players being sponsored overseas)
      I Had limited resources growing up personally and I managed to save up over the course of a year and a Half studying and working at "K-mart" to be able to afford my first trip overseas.
      This is a bigger conversation for sure and it doesn't apply to everyone but the majority do choose to spend theirs on a phone, car , console, etc. and don't realise that "Time" is the greatest enemy.

    • @anthonyf3680
      @anthonyf3680 Před 8 dny +1

      @@AlanDeriard It’s also way too expensive to play football in this country. The pay to play system is ruining football in Australia, and we’re missing out on incredible talent, or we could just not have it so expensive

  • @AUSTRALIAN19953
    @AUSTRALIAN19953 Před 12 dny +3

    Another thing I might add would be to move overseas as well!!! UK is a great place to play football personally and develop. But that's also if you have the money to do so😅. I remember I made that move back in 2014 still failed but at least I can look back and say I went for it😅

    • @AlanDeriard
      @AlanDeriard  Před 11 dny +1

      I totally agree! (just not Uk come work with me and go to Spain)

    • @AUSTRALIAN19953
      @AUSTRALIAN19953 Před 11 dny

      @@AlanDeriard might want to learn Spanish first 🤣

  • @oliverqueen5883
    @oliverqueen5883 Před 12 dny +9

    Australia are very focused on Aussie Rules, same as us in Ireland playing GAA sports when we’re decently good at cricket and football and really good at rugby especially, because we’re a pretty sporty country. I love Gaelic football, it’s so sad no other countries play it too so it’s almost a ‘waste’ because it doesn’t nothing for us on the global stage.

    • @clemfandango619
      @clemfandango619 Před 12 dny +1

      Only half the Australian population is into aussie rules. Ireland is Really good at cricket and football? You can't be serious.

    • @LomuHabana
      @LomuHabana Před 12 dny

      It‘s pretty much by design that Gaelic football (as well as the other GAA sport Hurling) is only big in Ireland. Seen as an integral part of Irish/Gaelic tradition and culture, that’s also why the sport is kept amateur.

    • @oliverqueen5883
      @oliverqueen5883 Před 8 dny +2

      @@clemfandango619 *good at football, quite good at cricket and world-class at rugby.

    • @oliverqueen5883
      @oliverqueen5883 Před 8 dny

      @@clemfandango619 That’s still more people than ideal that could be playing an international sport (not that there’s anything wrong with that, just saying it doesn’t help)

    • @fishyq5077
      @fishyq5077 Před 12 hodinami

      I am Irish in Australia. Both countries have similar issues. 20 years ago, we both had 'golden generations' with some of the best players in the world. Now, both can barely get a handful of players in the EPL (I know that isn't the only league in the world). Something has gone wrong. Those golden generations existed while many played other sports. Exposing kids to multiple sports is a good thing.

  • @user-wb4ww8xf4y
    @user-wb4ww8xf4y Před 9 dny

    how do i get in your academy

  • @BokaBronx
    @BokaBronx Před 8 dny

    love the vid, so if you were to guide a young football player in the right direction of going pro. whats steps would you take ?

    • @AlanDeriard
      @AlanDeriard  Před 4 dny

      I'd tell them to fill out a free consultation form on my website and be guided by my team of agents! 😉

  • @antoniohernandez-yx6xu
    @antoniohernandez-yx6xu Před 21 hodinou

    We do have a plan B, don't we? Great observation!

  • @landrytarsiwan7860
    @landrytarsiwan7860 Před 12 dny +2

    Hey Alan what advice do you have for african?

    • @AlanDeriard
      @AlanDeriard  Před 10 dny +1

      This is a tough one, honestly mate Europe is likely a no go for you - pro clubs don't want to send out invitation letters to African players due to the track record of them using it to get a temporary visa and then staying in the country illegally.
      So unless an agent or club is personally coming over to sign you up it will be extremely hard to make it over there.
      The obvious would be climb the ranks in the country you're in as if you're playing div 1 football that would change everything I've just said or if that's not a possibility have a look at some more obscure countries like Japan, Thailand, china etc.
      Good luck!

  • @joblakelisbon
    @joblakelisbon Před 7 dny

    It's just competition. Everyone in Europe is trying to make it in Europe.

  • @dehechenka
    @dehechenka Před 12 dny +2

    Good video

  • @Oceanview507
    @Oceanview507 Před 7 dny

    Sponsor. Japan and Korea players have good sponsor (such as big global company like SAMSUNG ,KIA, HYUNDAI, TOYATO, ISUZU, RAKUTEN, LG AND SO ON) can give good benefits to the team. if you have to pick players have same stats, they will look for players can bring the fortune to the team with sponsor . paying players salary, marketing and all the other expenses. KOREA league is very tight and small. they hardly make the annual net profit. but they have sponsorship backing the team. Also, sponsor company helps player to go overseas for marketing. Soccer market is different to before . Team needs good players and funds as salary is skyrocketing.

  • @Volty_y
    @Volty_y Před 10 dny

    What if you live in Australia, but you’re from a different country?

  • @well_i_liked_it
    @well_i_liked_it Před 12 dny +2

    Basically not having an EU passport is a huge disadvantage.

    • @AlanDeriard
      @AlanDeriard  Před 11 dny

      Look.. Yes it is however, I've still signed Aussies in Europe without needing one there's ALWAYS a way, Check out my instagram.

  • @wefinishthisnow3883
    @wefinishthisnow3883 Před 10 dny

    I'm convinced that Lionel Messi would have never made it if he were Australian, especially if he was unlucky enough to grow up in a bad team that couldn't pass the ball to him.
    He'd have likely played top amateur representative grade, but by the time a scout actually saw how skillful he was, he'd have been too old to develop and his parents wouldn't have been wealthy enough to get him into a program like the AIS where he might actually be seen by someone that can actually get him a viable pathway to a big club.
    He was fortunate to grow up in a country like Argentina where Barcelona invests money into scouts which allowed him to be spotted and professionally developed at 13 years old.

    • @damienstivala7130
      @damienstivala7130 Před 9 dny +2

      He would have been cut here and told your too small and take too many touches haha

    • @Cayman23q-zf4ff
      @Cayman23q-zf4ff Před 9 dny +1

      ​@@damienstivala7130Exactly anyone that's played football knows everytime you go to the youth league trials they always pick the big players that run like horses.They don't want small skillful players to develop.Its more important to win an under 12 competition then developing players that's the mentality in Australia.

    • @veritas4364
      @veritas4364 Před 4 dny

      He was spotted by a Barcelona scout. I don't think Barcelona has couts in Australia, so at least his way to the top would have been slower.

  • @DabDabGoose
    @DabDabGoose Před 8 dny

    Australian academy's are too expensive and it's even more so to go to europe.

  • @ozytradbowhunter
    @ozytradbowhunter Před 10 dny

    money and nepotism. That's about it.
    It's a sport where you're judged by someone's opinion and bias. It's not quantifiable like say, swimming. You could have learnt to swim in a billabong in the outback but in swimming if you post the times, you make the Olympics. Opinion and bias can't argue with times on the clock.

    • @AlanDeriard
      @AlanDeriard  Před 4 dny

      It's a tough pill to swallow, and I'd go further to say that it's not just the football world that is dictated by nepotism and cronyism; this is how the world operates! I started from zero, so it's not impossible to move up. It just takes time and grit. How does the saying go? Don't hate the player, hate the game.

  • @yudda4282
    @yudda4282 Před 2 dny

    So this is your excuse?..😅..

  • @TheOdontologist
    @TheOdontologist Před 14 dny +2

    Work with a sports psychologist....so you can reconcile being privileged and not care.....just picking myself off the floor....You had me going for a while.

  • @tonysambar
    @tonysambar Před 10 dny

    Mostly because their are 10 million better players in Europe
    😂

    • @loub344
      @loub344 Před 8 dny

      This, the talent pool is soo much bigger in Europe. Every kid in England plays football. It's far more competitive and difficult to make than it is in australia.

  • @rawirihemi27
    @rawirihemi27 Před 9 dny +1

    Australian is a broken place in general now. Too much woke bs.

    • @JMD166
      @JMD166 Před 9 dny

      Stupid pointless comment

    • @anthonyf3680
      @anthonyf3680 Před 8 dny

      That’s literally every western country