BTW the OBDLINK that stops working is an OBDLINK only problem. A slower adapter will not do this, but the OBDLINK is sooo much better when it works. We are working with OBDLINK to solve this, but we have been working on it for several years and not much progress has been made. In their defense we are overloading the OBD2 hardware severely with the amount of data and an edge case non-OBD2 type of data harvesting to get the Tesla data. Not much we can do about it until OBDLINK can solve the problem and come with a firmware update, or someone else invents a device that is as fast but without the crashing.
An engineer, a manager and a computer programmer are driving down a hill and the brakes fail. The car careers down the hill, but miraculously, they bring the car to a stop at the bottom without crashing. They all get out. The engineer says "Let's dismantle the brake system and investigate the cause." The managers says, "Hold on! We should first form a committee and explore all options before coming to any decisions on how to proceed." The computer programmer says, "Why don't we push it back up to the top of the hill and see if it happens again?"
The reason OBD port in front does not publish all of the data is due to security and also privacy reasons. The available data in in front are only there to read diagnostics and error code by let’s say service centers or road authorities (on ICEs e.g. to read current emission). The complete backbone data is published on other sort of hidden ports.
But are there any places where an electric vehicle would somehow need an emissions test? And what would the inspectors say if a vehicle that has no tailpipe pulls up and there is no place to perform a tailpipe emissions test?
Hello @Bjørn Great video as always. Thank you for not farting and burping. haha Could you please provide the link to the german guy making the ODB cable adapter.
So happy i got my m3 lr 2021 with Panasonic pack... I get 138wh/km when its 18celsius and a small bit of wind at 108km/h Average over 6k km = 149wh/km, and i regularly do the 4sec 0-100's.
MY here in Europe is already quite expensive (65k€ here in the Netherlands) and we are delivered with smaller battery pack. That's disappointing. I guess I will hold my purchase for now.
Got mine last Friday, the car is amazing, much better than I thought. Drove in a Model S P85D for 6y. Sure the battery could be this or that and I would love to have 1000km autonomy. Don’t put to much emphasis on marginal aspects while forgetting how good is the whole package.
@@mjaminian No question that Tesla technology is far superior than any other competitor atm. However we already have to pay a higher premium than americans, I would at least expect to get the same 'package'. Now, ofc, everyone has its own price tolerance. I find it difficult to be sold at this current prices. Also it won't have massive adoption if prices don't come down.
It looks like the LG battery I have in my Model 3 LR. It charges much slower than the Panasonic. Very difficult to get high enough temp in pack to reach maximum charging speed on V3 chargers, and it drops really quickly
@@MemphisMG86 but if it is the same battery pack as in the 74kwh M3LR the charging shouldn’t be any different in the MYLR compared to M3LR. I am aware of how efficient the MYLR is for its size. But who knows how many Elon-years go before we see 4680 in the pack 😄
@@MemphisMG86 you mean switching to the 5L battery, right? There are no Panasonic battery packs certified for the EU Model Y. The 3L is 82kWh by the way.
@@alinmustata No, from the VIN you can only separate Lithium Ion and LFP packs. What we are talking about are the variant codes in the vehicle paperwork. Y5CD is Model Y LG 75kwh Dual Motor. E3LD is Model 3 Panasonic 82kWh Dual Motor.
Hi Bjørn. The Model Ys on the way to Norway have two different codes, MTY03 or MTY07. People think that it means two different batteries. Could you verify if your test car is MTY03 or MTY07? (Not sure how to get this info. I got mine from the source code on order page)
I have now checked my order page and it is a mty03. Mine is LR with 20" wheels blue and with enhanced autopilot, black interior. Ordered in January. Reason I'm telling this is because when I'm in the Co figuration page for a new model y the mty03,05,07 and so on in the source code. Could it be different options and trim that decides this number? Not the battery pack?
Hi Bjorn. I can see each individual cell for my M3 SR+ MIC with LFP in scanmyTesla. I am running it on an iPhone and the MX version of the OBD adapter that you have. On an iPhone it isn’t that buggy but you can’t customise the screens.
I wouldn't buy a Y or 3 at this stage until Tesla clears up this battery lottery ! If VW would behave like this everybody would get worked up straight away calling them betrayers !
@@netsraccjf3965 If Tesla would do it like the other car companies, Tesla WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PRODUCE the amount of vehicles as they do now. Batteries are in limited supply. To be able to produce so many cars, they have to source it from MANY BATTERY SUPPLIERS, including their own battery dept. IT is what it is. To say that Tesla is SCAMMY is wrong. Tesla and other companies have STANDARDS that battery companies have to meet on specs. LG met their standards.
@@netsraccjf3965 I agree, they just changed the batteries in the LR and then ship with what looks like old LG versions, which by all accounts seem inferior to the MIA Panasonic.
@@1flash3571 That well may be, but for me as a customer I want to know what I get and Teslas communication on those things are outright terrible. Also as a customer it dearly matters to me if it takes the car 10 minutes longer to charge from 10 to 80% then it did before. The situation right now is that if you order a Model 3 LR you might get the good and proven Panasonic version on or you will get the vastly worse LG Version Battery for the same money ! As I said if VW would do that sort of thing you would hear the cry out from Germany right up to the Hymalays ! Tesla needs to learn they cannot just build their cars with the components they happen to find lying around . I have lost my trust in Tesla as I don't know if I will get the exact car I ordered or if they have changed it up in the mean time. The early Model 3's had self dimming side mirrors and sort of simple ambient lighting but all of that suddenly disappeared without Tesla saying a single word ! It was customers who noticed their friends car had ambient lighting while their car did not have it ! Now the self dimming mirrors are back, but you never know if they will take them away again or just leave out some noise dampening material if they are short on it ! Compared to other manufacturers it's very hard to find a full list of how the car is equipped on their website and they do that for a reason !
Hello In several of your videos on this topic, I've seen that you have regenerative values. I can't get these values on Car Scanner and on my AUDI E-TRON 55. Were you able to read this data on your own when you tested this AUDI? Thank you in advance.
Thanks for the review. do ou k now if that OBD port is working with HUDWAY HUD? HUDWAY HUD is the only think tesla model Y is needed, can u please review it?
Hey thanks for the video, important question. Does this show the historical GPS and other telemetry data? Or does this devise only work on a go forward basis? I need the historical logs for my Tesla. Can anyone help?
O need your help. O have a TM3 LR 2019. O need to buy anoder car. The Y is a good choise for me. What you recomend, buy th e Chinese verson or waiting for the german? Thanks for the help
To understand what kind of battery d I have on my Model Y, can you tell me the weight of your Model Y? I can see a net capacity from charging of about 74 kwh.
@Bjorn I noticed my Scan My Tesla will be “hanging” when the phone that runs the app is connected to internet. It was annoying me every 2 minutes but when I try without internet connection - no problem. I think is a bug in the app… 999! And by the way, this looks like the same LG pack I have in my early 2021 Model 3 Long Range. I thought Tesla returned to Panasonic pack on their newer cars!
I am really curious Bjorn. The range difference between the model Y and model 3 seems big because drag coefficient is nearly identical and weight increase is not too big.
Actual drag is the drag coefficient multiplied by the cross-sectional area of the car. As I see it, the Y has a bigger area than the 3, so the resulting drag is greater, resulting in a reduced range.
Everybody will be curious to see the real driving consumption on the 1000km challenge vs Mach E, Eniaq and ID4…. If it is close result , it would be a real disappointment .
I have a Model 3 Performance 2019 with 55.000km and I have 72.3kwh nominal full pack and 77.8 when new. 50% DC charge Thats packs of LG seems bad than previous Panasonic. Charges slow and loss perforance with cold whether.
I have a model 3 LR 2019 ( september ) with 20000 Km , 10% DC charged, 77.8 kwh when new and 71 kwh just now. My car regen a lot because my daily commute is 4 times 10 km downhill when i consume 0% and 10 km uphill when i consume double the current than normal. So maybe it's regen that is causing the battery degradation, more than DC charging.
@@MaxDamage75 I recommend you make a "calibration". Dischargue the battery until 1% or nearly, stay 2-3 hours and charge to 100%. I made that and the Nomimal full pack added 0.4kwh but the estimation add 18km (from 462km to 480km). I thing that the DC charge not degraded the battery like the people thinks. I think that the people uses their batteries always between 40-70% and that shows a non-real degradation and estimation
Preheat battery via software and existing parts. Very clever: Put the motors into "a little electrical fibbriIlation" to warm up the heat transfer fluid for distribution via OCTOVALVE and use Mr. Heatpump to amplify the effect. From "Lord Elon" : The best part is NO part! Older Teslas had electrical heaters! Would GM, Ford etal... have "thunk" to do that?
12v good? No, it's at 11,4V.. Resting should be around 12,4. When the engine is running (moahaha) it should be at least 13,0V. Preferably around 14V.. Does Tesla do some weird shit with the 12v to drain it..?
Preheat battery uses 6 kw ?? Assume it has heat pump and it should use less than 2 kw and then deliver minimum 6 kw heat. Google translation from danish ps I am heat pump technician
@@mback12000 That was my point. It should be just a standard OBD2 port using publicly available PIDs (?) for owners / 3rd party repair shops to be able to fully diagnose and repair the vehicle.
@@moestrei I see your point, sorry you may not see mine. The obd2 port was not "invented" to allow owners and 3rd party shops to diagnose and repair. It was gov't mandated for emission compliance testing and then built upon from there. There is much data on the OBD2 port of many cars that is not public nor standard, companies don't publish much of it but keep it for their factory scan tools. Tesla is doing nothing different. The emissions testing codes that are forced to be public are not applicable here. I was only reacting to your "Come on Elon..." comment, like he has done something different than Mercedes Benz, BMW, and most others. This is mostly hacked data by the scan tool vendors, who will catch up with Tesla just like they did the rest when the repair market exists. Thanks.
Bjorn - I mean no disrespect, but I'm baffled by your inability to pronounce 'w' - as in BMW, you say bee emm vee - but I know you can pronounce the word double, and you can pronounce you - so why not Bee Emm Double-you?
Battery degradation was removed (+ a few other fixes) in version 1.9.5, released in April. You should update your app ;)
But watching this I realized there are more things that could be updated. Will try to put a new version together.
BTW the OBDLINK that stops working is an OBDLINK only problem. A slower adapter will not do this, but the OBDLINK is sooo much better when it works. We are working with OBDLINK to solve this, but we have been working on it for several years and not much progress has been made. In their defense we are overloading the OBD2 hardware severely with the amount of data and an edge case non-OBD2 type of data harvesting to get the Tesla data. Not much we can do about it until OBDLINK can solve the problem and come with a firmware update, or someone else invents a device that is as fast but without the crashing.
An engineer, a manager and a computer programmer are driving down a hill and the brakes fail.
The car careers down the hill, but miraculously, they bring the car to a stop at the bottom without crashing.
They all get out. The engineer says "Let's dismantle the brake system and investigate the cause."
The managers says, "Hold on! We should first form a committee and explore all options before coming to any decisions on how to proceed."
The computer programmer says, "Why don't we push it back up to the top of the hill and see if it happens again?"
most ev drivers are used to one pedal driving. Clearly the battery was full, you just need to use that pedal on the left... it's called a brake.
@@petersilva037 So just call it a brake then, no need for the pedal on the left stuff.
The good old „Have you tried turning it off and on again“, as suggested by Moss and Roy in „The IT crowd“😁
The reason IT support suggests it is...
...because it often works.
Hi Bjorn, i think making a video on how cars calculate degradation would be interesting. ✌🤘🏻
The reason OBD port in front does not publish all of the data is due to security and also privacy reasons. The available data in in front are only there to read diagnostics and error code by let’s say service centers or road authorities (on ICEs e.g. to read current emission). The complete backbone data is published on other sort of hidden ports.
But are there any places where an electric vehicle would somehow need an emissions test? And what would the inspectors say if a vehicle that has no tailpipe pulls up and there is no place to perform a tailpipe emissions test?
Hello @Bjørn
Great video as always. Thank you for not farting and burping. haha
Could you please provide the link to the german guy making the ODB cable adapter.
Hey, Björn! You are telling all the secrets of tesla! If I was Audi, Kia, or another EV-Brand, I would watch your battery scans!
Looking forward to the noise test compared to the Model 3.
That port is not a complete port, it's only for a partial diag with specific adapter
Yes, it has a firewall. Lots of vehicles now tends to have those OBD ports that can be activated only with specific softwares...
So happy i got my m3 lr 2021 with Panasonic pack... I get 138wh/km when its 18celsius and a small bit of wind at 108km/h
Average over 6k km = 149wh/km, and i regularly do the 4sec 0-100's.
2021 model 3 also has the gentle horn at door lock.
MY here in Europe is already quite expensive (65k€ here in the Netherlands) and we are delivered with smaller battery pack. That's disappointing. I guess I will hold my purchase for now.
Got mine last Friday, the car is amazing, much better than I thought. Drove in a Model S P85D for 6y. Sure the battery could be this or that and I would love to have 1000km autonomy. Don’t put to much emphasis on marginal aspects while forgetting how good is the whole package.
@@mjaminian No question that Tesla technology is far superior than any other competitor atm. However we already have to pay a higher premium than americans, I would at least expect to get the same 'package'. Now, ofc, everyone has its own price tolerance. I find it difficult to be sold at this current prices. Also it won't have massive adoption if prices don't come down.
Driven this now down to to close to 0% several times now, and yes it does seem to only have a net capacity of 70kWh Bjørn..
That means that the Model 3 LR 2021 facelift with heat pump have more or I am wrong?
It looks like the LG battery I have in my Model 3 LR. It charges much slower than the Panasonic. Very difficult to get high enough temp in pack to reach maximum charging speed on V3 chargers, and it drops really quickly
@@MemphisMG86 first model Y? It is like two years old?
@@MemphisMG86 but if it is the same battery pack as in the 74kwh M3LR the charging shouldn’t be any different in the MYLR compared to M3LR. I am aware of how efficient the MYLR is for its size.
But who knows how many Elon-years go before we see 4680 in the pack 😄
@@MemphisMG86 you mean switching to the 5L battery, right? There are no Panasonic battery packs certified for the EU Model Y. The 3L is 82kWh by the way.
So let me get his straight if a Model 3 has 5c in the vin it’s the lg battery and if it has 3L is the panasonic one with the 82kwh, right?
@@alinmustata No, from the VIN you can only separate Lithium Ion and LFP packs. What we are talking about are the variant codes in the vehicle paperwork. Y5CD is Model Y LG 75kwh Dual Motor. E3LD is Model 3 Panasonic 82kWh Dual Motor.
Hi Bjørn. The Model Ys on the way to Norway have two different codes, MTY03 or MTY07. People think that it means two different batteries. Could you verify if your test car is MTY03 or MTY07? (Not sure how to get this info. I got mine from the source code on order page)
Hope you can find info from the link I posted in my message here somewhere on the battery info...
@@ModPhreak I cannot seem to find that message. Can you repost it here?
I have now checked my order page and it is a mty03. Mine is LR with 20" wheels blue and with enhanced autopilot, black interior. Ordered in January.
Reason I'm telling this is because when I'm in the Co figuration page for a new model y the mty03,05,07 and so on in the source code. Could it be different options and trim that decides this number? Not the battery pack?
Hi Bjorn. I can see each individual cell for my M3 SR+ MIC with LFP in scanmyTesla. I am running it on an iPhone and the MX version of the OBD adapter that you have. On an iPhone it isn’t that buggy but you can’t customise the screens.
The battery is the LG pack which can be calibrated up to 75 kWh nominal .
It is the same slow charging pack, which is in the 580 km LG Model 3s.
How do you do that ?
I wouldn't buy a Y or 3 at this stage until Tesla clears up this battery lottery !
If VW would behave like this everybody would get worked up straight away calling them betrayers !
@@netsraccjf3965 If Tesla would do it like the other car companies, Tesla WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PRODUCE the amount of vehicles as they do now. Batteries are in limited supply. To be able to produce so many cars, they have to source it from MANY BATTERY SUPPLIERS, including their own battery dept. IT is what it is. To say that Tesla is SCAMMY is wrong. Tesla and other companies have STANDARDS that battery companies have to meet on specs. LG met their standards.
@@netsraccjf3965 I agree, they just changed the batteries in the LR and then ship with what looks like old LG versions, which by all accounts seem inferior to the MIA Panasonic.
@@1flash3571
That well may be, but for me as a customer I want to know what I get and Teslas communication on those things are outright terrible.
Also as a customer it dearly matters to me if it takes the car 10 minutes longer to charge from 10 to 80% then it did before.
The situation right now is that if you order a Model 3 LR you might get the good and proven Panasonic version on or you will get the vastly worse LG Version Battery for the same money !
As I said if VW would do that sort of thing you would hear the cry out from Germany right up to the Hymalays !
Tesla needs to learn they cannot just build their cars with the components they happen to find lying around .
I have lost my trust in Tesla as I don't know if I will get the exact car I ordered or if they have changed it up in the mean time.
The early Model 3's had self dimming side mirrors and sort of simple ambient lighting but all of that suddenly disappeared without Tesla saying a single word !
It was customers who noticed their friends car had ambient lighting while their car did not have it !
Now the self dimming mirrors are back, but you never know if they will take them away again or just leave out some noise dampening material if they are short on it !
Compared to other manufacturers it's very hard to find a full list of how the car is equipped on their website and they do that for a reason !
I’ve got MYP Fremont and it has 82kwh max capacity in scan my Tesla . I wonder is if battery on this LR is smaller because of MIC or just LR vs P…
Hello
In several of your videos on this topic, I've seen that you have regenerative values.
I can't get these values on Car Scanner and on my AUDI E-TRON 55.
Were you able to read this data on your own when you tested this AUDI?
Thank you in advance.
Nice vid! Can i use the same adapter in Model Y 2024 obd port?
I didn't see data for the heat pump energy usage. On my Model Y when it preconditions the battery I hear the heat pump compressor spin up.
The buffer is not counted in the 66.6 kWh full charge. At 0.0 kWh SOC, the pack has a buffer of 3.3 kWh
Uncle Bjørn, have you used the new tesla app? Have you tried the summon "move to target"?
I do not see the link for the hidden ODB port adapter..
I use the adapter (more expensive) for iPhone, and a much cheaper adapter from alibaba, and it very rarely bugs.
Which adaptor?
Very important shtats, thanks.
Thanks for the review.
do ou k now if that OBD port is working with HUDWAY HUD?
HUDWAY HUD is the only think tesla model Y is needed, can u please review it?
Hi Bjørn, when will you do a range test of this Model Y LR?
Subscribe to the Livestream channel then you will know
@@Nobody_Famous Tomorrow Monday, I heard
It appears the buffer is 4.5% after the 1.07% degradation on the first charge.
Hei Bjørn, kunne du gjort en oppdatering på Model Y levert fra Kina i Q4? Har disse 82kwh batteri pakke??😃
Hey thanks for the video, important question. Does this show the historical GPS and other telemetry data? Or does this devise only work on a go forward basis?
I need the historical logs for my Tesla. Can anyone help?
Hi Bjorn, i saw you re mach e test (a long time ago) which app did you use?
Car Scanner
O need your help.
O have a TM3 LR 2019.
O need to buy anoder car.
The Y is a good choise for me.
What you recomend, buy th e Chinese verson or waiting for the german?
Thanks for the help
Actually it would be interesting to see a range/consumption test when fighting against strong headwind.
The energy used to push the air goes up cubic (^3) with the wind/vehicle speed.
To understand what kind of battery d I have on my Model Y, can you tell me the weight of your Model Y? I can see a net capacity from charging of about 74 kwh.
It is the LG 5C 77kWh Battery. Same as all the Model 3 LR MiC with LG Battery and only 580 km WLTP Range.
@@ZekeMagnum no that ist the LFP Battery from CATL that is only in Standard Range Model.
@@Hitman006xp Wrong! Every battery can be charged to 100% daily! It’s a different story if they SHOULD be charged to 100% daily…
@@c-fb then replace his can with a should and be happy. You can do whatever you want. It was clear what he wanted to know.
When did they add the OBD2 port under the dash for the model y?
Nice new hair cut Bär.
@Bjorn I noticed my Scan My Tesla will be “hanging” when the phone that runs the app is connected to internet. It was annoying me every 2 minutes but when I try without internet connection - no problem. I think is a bug in the app… 999!
And by the way, this looks like the same LG pack I have in my early 2021 Model 3 Long Range. I thought Tesla returned to Panasonic pack on their newer cars!
Made in China LR vehicles use LG packs as there is no Panasonic factory in China, Made in US use Panasonic.
@@boostav not a rule. My M3 is made in US with LG battery.
@@ZEFElectric That was a very brief occurrence.
What do you think of those wheels?
I am really curious Bjorn. The range difference between the model Y and model 3 seems big because drag coefficient is nearly identical and weight increase is not too big.
Actual drag is the drag coefficient multiplied by the cross-sectional area of the car. As I see it, the Y has a bigger area than the 3, so the resulting drag is greater, resulting in a reduced range.
Yummy stuff here for geeks like me..
My l.r. Model 3 is 2020 series and have the same battery
Would you be so kind to publish the link of the adapter that is needed to connect the obd dongle?
All the OBDlinks suffer these issues, overflow and shut down. It’s not your adapter.
thanks
What phone are you using for this? It looks like an older iPhone but running Android. I'm so confused! :D
Honor 9
Everybody will be curious to see the real driving consumption on the 1000km challenge vs Mach E, Eniaq and ID4…. If it is close result , it would be a real disappointment .
Where is the range test? I thought I saw a video but now it’s gone.
Not tested yet.
God morgen Bjørn. Kjempeflott bil!
I have a Model 3 Performance 2019 with 55.000km and I have 72.3kwh nominal full pack and 77.8 when new.
50% DC charge
Thats packs of LG seems bad than previous Panasonic. Charges slow and loss perforance with cold whether.
I have a model 3 LR 2019 ( september ) with 20000 Km , 10% DC charged, 77.8 kwh when new and 71 kwh just now.
My car regen a lot because my daily commute is 4 times 10 km downhill when i consume 0% and 10 km uphill when i consume double the current than normal.
So maybe it's regen that is causing the battery degradation, more than DC charging.
@@MaxDamage75 I recommend you make a "calibration". Dischargue the battery until 1% or nearly, stay 2-3 hours and charge to 100%.
I made that and the Nomimal full pack added 0.4kwh but the estimation add 18km (from 462km to 480km).
I thing that the DC charge not degraded the battery like the people thinks. I think that the people uses their batteries always between 40-70% and that shows a non-real degradation and estimation
@@oSERGIO92o Done it, 2-3 times now, and i recovered from 69.9 kwh to 71 kwh.
Maybe i can recover something more but i doubt at this point.
my 2019 perofrmance 3 has 39000 km and 69.3kwh nominal full pack, 77.8kwh from new...
@@kingprone7846 Get your battery down to close to zero and then recharge it to the max. It might need to rebalance the batteries.
Nice hair cut.
Find an opportunity to evaluate BYD’s Han. It uses a 600v platform and is very popular in China.
2 millivolt inbalance. That must be crazily low.
Preheat battery via software and existing parts.
Very clever: Put the motors into "a little electrical fibbriIlation" to warm up the heat transfer fluid for distribution via OCTOVALVE and use Mr. Heatpump to amplify the effect. From "Lord Elon" : The best part is NO part!
Older Teslas had electrical heaters! Would GM, Ford etal... have "thunk" to do that?
12v good? No, it's at 11,4V.. Resting should be around 12,4. When the engine is running (moahaha) it should be at least 13,0V. Preferably around 14V..
Does Tesla do some weird shit with the 12v to drain it..?
Is this the battery that has 507km WLTP range? (meaning aWLTP consumption on 14,69kWh/100km)
Preheat battery uses 6 kw ??
Assume it has heat pump and it should use less than 2 kw and then deliver minimum 6 kw heat.
Google translation from danish
ps I am heat pump technician
It uses motors to generate heat (as already explained in the video).
A custom OBD2 connector ? Come on Elon, are you kidding us??
no, a minimally compliant port, to calm down non tesla repair shops and regulators
It isn't an OBD2 port. We are technically hacking the car, don't expect standards or Tesla support.
@@mback12000 That was my point. It should be just a standard OBD2 port using publicly available PIDs (?) for owners / 3rd party repair shops to be able to fully diagnose and repair the vehicle.
@@moestrei I see your point, sorry you may not see mine. The obd2 port was not "invented" to allow owners and 3rd party shops to diagnose and repair. It was gov't mandated for emission compliance testing and then built upon from there. There is much data on the OBD2 port of many cars that is not public nor standard, companies don't publish much of it but keep it for their factory scan tools. Tesla is doing nothing different. The emissions testing codes that are forced to be public are not applicable here. I was only reacting to your "Come on Elon..." comment, like he has done something different than Mercedes Benz, BMW, and most others. This is mostly hacked data by the scan tool vendors, who will catch up with Tesla just like they did the rest when the repair market exists. Thanks.
Shieet already new car and already about 50% fast charging
Bjorn is just “bedding in the rings”
First to say second
:)
First to say first.
Bjorn - I mean no disrespect, but I'm baffled by your inability to pronounce 'w' - as in BMW, you say bee emm vee - but I know you can pronounce the word double, and you can pronounce you - so why not Bee Emm Double-you?
@@abraxastulammo9940 - still bee emm double-you!
No, look it up. It's "bee em vee". Norwegian and German is very similar, so it makes sense for him to pronounce it correctly.
Sorry but u are wrong. It is not a Bee Em double-u.
Its a beähh- ääähmmm- veeeee.😇
@@Air-ic279 NOPE! Bjorn was speaking English, not German. In English 'V' is vee, 'W' is double-you. End of.
Noob detected. The German way is the correct way.