What’s interesting is that even back then, we knew dinosaurs were incapable of roaring. But because of King Kong, the trope of a roaring dinosaur stuck until we had to relearn it again
We don't really "know that" it's more of a conjecture. And we only know about a tiny fraction of the animals that existed back then due to the rarity of fossils. It's very much within the realm of possibility that many dinosaurs and animals could make sounds.
Coincidentally we do now have preserved dinosaur throats, showing they had the same vocal organs as crocodilians and birds, a larynx and/or syrinx. So having altered bird and crocodilian calls (which can 'roar' to be fair, just not one to one with mammals like tigers) actually is pretty plausible. - Is a paleontolotical educator at a museum
Fantastic episode! It was really interesting to see so many unfamiliar behind the scenes photos. I like how O'Brien still got to sneak in some of Kong's more playful mannerisms to give him character and sympathy. Looking forward to the next installment
I love this series man. The nerd may introduced me to Godzilla but you cemented my interest and now gave me a in depth look at one of my favorite movies of all time. Keep it up!
I would love seeing explorations of other movie monsters with this level of quality. They don't have to be just Godzilla and his influences. Great video.
There was a little piece I liked in the novelization where Kong smashes into a hotel lobby across the street from the theater and a hotel detective opens fire, chasing him off. I can see why it would be left out of the film, though.
The 2005 remake was perfection, the greatest dinosaur movie ever! Better then Jurassic Park! A masterclass in creature design and speculative evolution.
I have no idea what im about to watch, or what channel, but this thumbnail alone mixed with the topic of the seties, already has me subbed. Cant wait to watch these
I may have only been a kid when I watched King Kong, but somewhere deep down I did feel so bad for him. Going out of his way to protect a woman who showed nothing but fear at the sight of him, being lured into a trap and captured by a greedy movie maker, put on display at a stage show, and ultimately being killed by airplanes. Even as of today I still love this film for introducing me to the monster that inspired the creation of Godzilla.
Generally these animals are dinosaurs. Inaccurate for the modern age. The inconsistencies are simply because animals taken from creation were gonna be used for certain scenes but might have been changed for one reason or another The only reason the dinosaurs don’t have much description in the novel is because the book was given to a second writer and since it was being written alongside the film the creatures weren’t guaranteed to be specific ones
Indeed, Also the designs also help to showcase how the Dino’s evolved on skull island, even if it is now outdated currently how the modern ones look, these are some really cool and awesome skull island dinosaur Designs. Also those are some cool facts, also heard there was supposed to be other dinosaurs in the film. And the brontosaurus scene was awesome. Also the sequel had a fictional dinosaur called the dragon dinosaur looked like a carnivorous sauropod of some kind, also is reminiscent to the dragon in sin bad the seventh voyage.
2:02 When Dinosaurs Ruled The Earth & Planet of Dinosaurs are one of my favorite Science Fiction Color Dinosaur Movies. I wish the 1956 Film The Animal World was Included. However, I do like the 1925 Film The Lost World. 3:29 That concept or whatever it is was from that abandoned Film project called Creation. The Dinosaurs from the original King Kong were originally made for the 1931 Film Project, but the picture was never completed. 7:26 That’s the test footage is also from the abandoned project Creation as well.
For road of Gojira will we get a episode about other kaiju films by toho or just Godzilla(BTw made this comment before seeing the episode but I'm sure it will be good!)
What amazed me the most is that remember OG Skull Island beign huge and with a lor of monsters, but I recently watched the movie and there were only 5 besides Kong
man i watched that Christopher Reeves Dinosaur documentary you use clips from so much as a kid, also looked at old books of how we thought dinosaurs looked
9:23 Actually, Arsinoitherium (one of my favorite prehistoric mammals) isn't closely related to rhinos, despite it's look. It's actually closer to Elephants.
There’s no evidence that any other major animation models existed other than “Long Face” Kong, utilized in the Skull Island scenes, and “Round Head” Kong utilized in the NYC sequences. According to Marcel Delgado, the technician who built all the models in King Kong : “ JL: Do any of the models you used in Lost World or King Kong still survive, or have they deteriorated? MD: Oh, they are long deteriorated. See, they’re made out of rubber, and the rubber sulphurizes with the ozone, see, and the air hits it, that’s it. It starts to go. It starts to go from the first day. JL: How long could a model be expected to last in shooting? MD: Well, the model doesn’t last very long; it’s the maintenance that keeps it up. Like I say, you make a model and leave it out where the air hits it, it starts to go right away. JL: Then you had to give it regular daily care? MD: Every day. Every day. Many of those models, I tore ’em down to the bone, then I start all over again, build ’em up again. And by the time I got finished they had to look like the other model. I had to do it all by my memory. JL: You had to remember what the model looked like? MD: And it’s pretty hard to - Many times I used to - Many times, I built King Kong three or four times. More than that. Of course, I had two Kongs. When one was at work, the other one was in repair. JL: You only used two models for Kong? MD: Just two models. JL: I heard different stories; I heard as many as 27 were used. MD: (smiling) No.” The difference in screen height (18’ tall in skull Island, 24’ tall in NYC) was effected by using differently scaled miniatures and filmed foreground and background plates. A small (6”, IFIRC) lead-weighted jointed figure was constructed to illustrate Kong’s plunge from atop the Empire State Building. Both Kong animation models were 18” in height.
5:28-6:22 Ironically that also foreshadows another controversial scientific theory on what sounds dinosaurs can and can't make. 9:30-10:11 Plus a slight nitpick on this part, but in actuality, Arsinoitherium is closely related to elephants instead of rhinos.
Greatly looking forward to your Son of Kong episode. Kinda wish you'd cover the 1976 remake and it's dreadful sequel as well some time, after completing our current road.
Thanks for liking the video. I actually do plan on covering the 1976 movie along with the sequel when we come to it in the timeline. i know there not technically Godzilla movies but id figure why not.
At 1:47, the picture of the two theropods jumping on each other is actually seen as a picture in a book I have. Its called "The Extinction Of The Dinosaurs
I think the script's inconsistencies as to whether the crew was being attacked by a horned dinosaur or spike-tailed dinosaur came from the many revisions the screenplay had. They probably swapped out a triceratops in favor of a stegosaurus and didn't bother to take out the notes about the horns. There are a number of mistakes in the finished script that haven't been correct corrected. At one point, the script even refers to Ann Darrow as Eve Trowbridge; Fay Wray's character from Most Dangerous Game.
My in-universe theory: The creatures of Skull Island, including Kong, were the result of the ancient civilization that built that place and then descended into savagery. They may have been so advanced, they actually raised the island up out of the ocean, leading to its ultimate instability. Anyhow, they played proto-Hammond with the remains of the creatures they found, and this mish-mash was the result. Taken a step further, some of the markings seen in the ruins of Skull Island 2005 seemed to be an in-joke towards Jackson's other films - was the island a last, broken off remnant of Mordor, containing experiments conducted by the forces of Morgoth, Sauron and Saruman?
In regard to the title, I just recently watched another documentary that claimed that the name "King Kong" was lifted from a previous Jungle Adventure Serial from 1929 called "King of the Kongo", which featured a large (8ish ft) gorilla played by Joe Bonomo in a big gorilla suit.
With my limited experience with stop motion animation, I know going from 2 legs to 8 legs, animation-wise, presents all kinds of complications that increase the length of time needed to create a scene. Orders of magnitude greater. No wonder the studio put the brakes on that scene.
Yes. I wanted to mention that in the video, but the one time I did bring it up, it seemed to detract from the point I was trying to make about Kong's sympathy. Thanks for bringing it up, however. :)
The carnivore theropod battling Kong was NOT a T-Rex. It was an Allosaurus. Observe that a T-Rex is a two-toed theropod dinosaur. An Allosaurus is three-toed, not as large as a T-Rex and from the Jurassic Period. T. rex are Cretaceous dinosaurs.
A cinematic masterpiece with artwork that should be well preserved for human history.
What’s interesting is that even back then, we knew dinosaurs were incapable of roaring. But because of King Kong, the trope of a roaring dinosaur stuck until we had to relearn it again
We don't really "know that" it's more of a conjecture. And we only know about a tiny fraction of the animals that existed back then due to the rarity of fossils. It's very much within the realm of possibility that many dinosaurs and animals could make sounds.
Just realised that the show is one year old now.
Happy anniversary
Thank you! :)
“Since humans have never coexisted with dinosaurs.”
Birds: *Are we a joke to you?*
Coincidentally we do now have preserved dinosaur throats, showing they had the same vocal organs as crocodilians and birds, a larynx and/or syrinx. So having altered bird and crocodilian calls (which can 'roar' to be fair, just not one to one with mammals like tigers) actually is pretty plausible.
- Is a paleontolotical educator at a museum
This was really cool. There were several behind the scenes photos that I had never seen before
same man! they were so cool!
The levels of polish you put into these episodes speak volumes about your love for the material. Can't wait to see what you do next!
Fantastic episode! It was really interesting to see so many unfamiliar behind the scenes photos. I like how O'Brien still got to sneak in some of Kong's more playful mannerisms to give him character and sympathy. Looking forward to the next installment
I lost it when i saw this in my notifications
Same
same here! 1 month really does kill ya lol
I love this series man.
The nerd may introduced me to Godzilla but you cemented my interest and now gave me a in depth look at one of my favorite movies of all time.
Keep it up!
I absolutely love this retrospect of the most iconic movie monster. Thanks for uploading!
As someone who has done plenty of narrations for school projects, Your voice is fantastic for this kind of work.
King kong is my favorite stop motion movie
Testing jaw tension is a good way to check if something is ko'd
I would love seeing explorations of other movie monsters with this level of quality.
They don't have to be just Godzilla and his influences.
Great video.
There was a little piece I liked in the novelization where Kong smashes into a hotel lobby across the street from the theater and a hotel detective opens fire, chasing him off. I can see why it would be left out of the film, though.
Great video! 10/10
That's what I love about the original King Kong and interesting monsters they have.
The 2005 remake was perfection, the greatest dinosaur movie ever! Better then Jurassic Park! A masterclass in creature design and speculative evolution.
I have no idea what im about to watch, or what channel, but this thumbnail alone mixed with the topic of the seties, already has me subbed. Cant wait to watch these
ayyy welcome back friend! i missed watching your videos for 1 month lol awesome video btw, it's really cool knowing about these things!
Can't wait for Son of Kong.
Outstanding work!! Love this!!
The meat eater had three fingers, not two, and the stegosaurus having two horns, could have been mixing up the arsinoitherium
6:05 I heard the T Rex's roars were taken from cougar growls.
I may have only been a kid when I watched King Kong, but somewhere deep down I did feel so bad for him. Going out of his way to protect a woman who showed nothing but fear at the sight of him, being lured into a trap and captured by a greedy movie maker, put on display at a stage show, and ultimately being killed by airplanes.
Even as of today I still love this film for introducing me to the monster that inspired the creation of Godzilla.
Generally these animals are dinosaurs. Inaccurate for the modern age.
The inconsistencies are simply because animals taken from creation were gonna be used for certain scenes but might have been changed for one reason or another
The only reason the dinosaurs don’t have much description in the novel is because the book was given to a second writer and since it was being written alongside the film the creatures weren’t guaranteed to be specific ones
Indeed, Also the designs also help to showcase how the Dino’s evolved on skull island, even if it is now outdated currently how the modern ones look, these are some really cool and awesome skull island dinosaur Designs. Also those are some cool facts, also heard there was supposed to be other dinosaurs in the film. And the brontosaurus scene was awesome. Also the sequel had a fictional dinosaur called the dragon dinosaur looked like a carnivorous sauropod of some kind, also is reminiscent to the dragon in sin bad the seventh voyage.
2:02 When Dinosaurs Ruled The Earth & Planet of Dinosaurs are one of my favorite Science Fiction Color Dinosaur Movies. I wish the 1956 Film The Animal World was Included. However, I do like the 1925 Film The Lost World. 3:29 That concept or whatever it is was from that abandoned Film project called Creation. The Dinosaurs from the original King Kong were originally made for the 1931 Film Project, but the picture was never completed. 7:26 That’s the test footage is also from the abandoned project Creation as well.
This is exactly what I’m into.
For road of Gojira will we get a episode about other kaiju films by toho or just Godzilla(BTw made this comment before seeing the episode but I'm sure it will be good!)
Yes, Road of Gojira will also go over other Toho Monster/Sci-fi films besides Godzilla. Also I hope you enjoyed the video :)
What amazed me the most is that remember OG Skull Island beign huge and with a lor of monsters, but I recently watched the movie and there were only 5 besides Kong
man i watched that Christopher Reeves Dinosaur documentary you use clips from so much as a kid, also looked at old books of how we thought dinosaurs looked
In 20 years, we'll be laughing at our current depictions of dinosaurs.
The return of the king, whenever this guy uploads it makes my day. Even his voice is so good. Keep up the good work man we are all rooting for you!
Think you mean eger Wallace's script, which was used in the novelization of king kong
This series is amazing and criminally underated. Thanks so much!
Oh but humans have lived with Dino's, there called birds😊
☝️🤓
Heck yeah!
1:41 That will always be a T-Rex to me.
Thanks, again, Paper Finz! Excellent work!
Great Video! Very entertaining watch!
So much info in this vid, awesomely done. Kong Rules
9:23 Actually, Arsinoitherium (one of my favorite prehistoric mammals) isn't closely related to rhinos, despite it's look. It's actually closer to Elephants.
There’s no evidence that any other major animation models existed other than “Long Face” Kong, utilized in the Skull Island scenes, and “Round Head” Kong utilized in the NYC sequences. According to Marcel Delgado, the technician who built all the models in King Kong : “
JL: Do any of the models you used in Lost World or King Kong still survive, or have they deteriorated?
MD: Oh, they are long deteriorated. See, they’re made out of rubber, and the rubber sulphurizes with the ozone, see, and the air hits it, that’s it. It starts to go. It starts to go from the first day.
JL: How long could a model be expected to last in shooting?
MD: Well, the model doesn’t last very long; it’s the maintenance that keeps it up. Like I say, you make a model and leave it out where the air hits it, it starts to go right away.
JL: Then you had to give it regular daily care?
MD: Every day. Every day. Many of those models, I tore ’em down to the bone, then I start all over again, build ’em up again. And by the time I got finished they had to look like the other model. I had to do it all by my memory.
JL: You had to remember what the model looked like?
MD: And it’s pretty hard to - Many times I used to - Many times, I built King Kong three or four times. More than that. Of course, I had two Kongs. When one was at work, the other one was in repair.
JL: You only used two models for Kong?
MD: Just two models.
JL: I heard different stories; I heard as many as 27 were used.
MD: (smiling) No.”
The difference in screen height (18’ tall in skull Island, 24’ tall in NYC) was effected by using differently scaled miniatures and filmed foreground and background plates. A small (6”, IFIRC) lead-weighted jointed figure was constructed to illustrate Kong’s plunge from atop the Empire State Building. Both Kong animation models were 18” in height.
Amazing video as always!
Humans have coexisted with dinosaurs-birds are dinosaurs.
We haven’t coexisted with non-avian dinosaurs.
5:28-6:22 Ironically that also foreshadows another controversial scientific theory on what sounds dinosaurs can and can't make.
9:30-10:11 Plus a slight nitpick on this part, but in actuality, Arsinoitherium is closely related to elephants instead of rhinos.
14:43
"Kong" also means "king" in norwegian, specifically when included with the king's name
Not King King 😭
Love King Kong,
The original Kaiju
Greatly looking forward to your Son of Kong episode. Kinda wish you'd cover the 1976 remake and it's dreadful sequel as well some time, after completing our current road.
Thanks for liking the video. I actually do plan on covering the 1976 movie along with the sequel when we come to it in the timeline. i know there not technically Godzilla movies but id figure why not.
@@PaperFinz I'll look forward to that, and enjoy all the stops along the way!
That film had a cool fictional dinosaur that was like a carnivorous sauropod
At 1:47, the picture of the two theropods jumping on each other is actually seen as a picture in a book I have. Its called "The Extinction Of The Dinosaurs
Funfact: Nowdays we know that dinosaurs actually had vocal cours, Pinacosaurus isan example of that, with vocals almost identical to the modern birds.
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Please review gamera rebirth you’ve already done Godzilla singular point how about a new Kajiu anime
I think the script's inconsistencies as to whether the crew was being attacked by a horned dinosaur or spike-tailed dinosaur came from the many revisions the screenplay had. They probably swapped out a triceratops in favor of a stegosaurus and didn't bother to take out the notes about the horns. There are a number of mistakes in the finished script that haven't been correct corrected. At one point, the script even refers to Ann Darrow as Eve Trowbridge; Fay Wray's character from Most Dangerous Game.
They did live together actually.
My in-universe theory: The creatures of Skull Island, including Kong, were the result of the ancient civilization that built that place and then descended into savagery. They may have been so advanced, they actually raised the island up out of the ocean, leading to its ultimate instability. Anyhow, they played proto-Hammond with the remains of the creatures they found, and this mish-mash was the result.
Taken a step further, some of the markings seen in the ruins of Skull Island 2005 seemed to be an in-joke towards Jackson's other films - was the island a last, broken off remnant of Mordor, containing experiments conducted by the forces of Morgoth, Sauron and Saruman?
In regard to the title, I just recently watched another documentary that claimed that the name "King Kong" was lifted from a previous Jungle Adventure Serial from 1929 called "King of the Kongo", which featured a large (8ish ft) gorilla played by Joe Bonomo in a big gorilla suit.
With my limited experience with stop motion animation, I know going from 2 legs to 8 legs, animation-wise, presents all kinds of complications that increase the length of time needed to create a scene. Orders of magnitude greater. No wonder the studio put the brakes on that scene.
Amazing 😂😂
Did you know that that "Old Arabian Proverb" doesn't exist in real life?
Yes. I wanted to mention that in the video, but the one time I did bring it up, it seemed to detract from the point I was trying to make about Kong's sympathy. Thanks for bringing it up, however. :)
Did you know gigantis and godzilla are brothers or cousins
Thank you for this video?
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Great Video series!!! BTW . . . Is my hearing going bad or did you say "Stryacosaurus" instead of "Styracosaurus", which has the R coming after the Y.
Thank you for liking it, and yeah the pronunciation is a mistake on my part.
I reiterate you did a fantastic job, a ton of research, a wealth of info! I guess there are great creators out there. Keep it going 😊
The carnivore theropod battling Kong was NOT a T-Rex. It was an Allosaurus. Observe that a T-Rex is a two-toed theropod dinosaur. An Allosaurus is three-toed, not as large as a T-Rex and from the Jurassic Period. T. rex are Cretaceous dinosaurs.
Bottom line: Blondes will do you in...
Opinion on Godzilla X Kong?