Dark Routes Ep. 3: The Carvings of El Morro
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I showed my APUSH teacher this series and he made it a required assignment, he said “the history of the US isn’t just about the Americans who showed up late it’s also about the people who came before and we’re here first” he also liked your sense of humor so do with that what you will. 😂
that's so rad!
Oh damn. This reminds me of my APUSH teacher who would always show us stuff like this. As well as start discussions about these kinds of topics. I'm sure if I showed this series to him he would want to show it to his future classes.
that’s so cool ❤❤❤
The academic dream is becoming the video they put on for video days. You are now up there with Bill Nye and Nat Geo.
@@WeCanCos don’t forget crash course (the goat)
You know it'll be a good one when Milo introduces himself twice.
and 2 more times at the end lol
Timestamps?
1:13 and 1:36
25:25 and 25:44
@@aardenglmao
And twice more at the end
Don't know why, but "The only thing worse than drinking stagnant pond water is DYING OF THIRST" sent me into fits of laughter
Lol, my mother walked into the room during that line and she also got a good laugh from it ;p
So I looked up the inscription from 1692: "Here was the General Don Diego de Vargas who conquered for our Holy Faith, and for the Royal Crown, all of New Mexico at his own expense, year of 1692" Jerk was salty he had to pay for his own conquest.
I'm loving this series, Milo. I bet you had an amazing time out there. Keep it coming!
Likely, he wasn’t salty about having to spend his own money, rather bragging about how rich he was. In his area Gestae, Caesar Augustus also mentions that he personally paid for his early conquests. It wasn’t that he was mad at having to pay for the whole thing, it’s likely the sentiment is something closer to, “I did this all by myself and didn’t need any help because I’m just that cool”.
Reminds me of a lot of millionaires or business owners nowadays bragging that they "started from nothing" or did it "all by themselves".
@@pastel.persephone5879just them and mummy and daddy's millions as a start-up, and contacts, and some sweetheart deals. 🙄
He was very salty. As were all the conquistadores that had to finance their own expeditions.
The graphic designer who did the wagon bit deserves a raise and maybe a medal. You gave me a good giggle.
Thank you 🙏 😂 🏹🎯🫏💨 🏃♀️💨
It was giving gmod shitpost and I love it
Very goofy
@@alexmillinger5524 GMOD style SFM nonsense. Beautiful stuff.
That was goofy. Kind of a weird choice to portray the deaths of people whom milo just termed "innocents".
Glorious 😂
Hi Milo! I'm a forester out of Northern Arizona and took enough American Indian Studies classes I could have minored in it, but anyways just a small ecological correction; at ~7600 ft elevation it totally makes sense for alot of the site to have been forested historically. At those elevations on the Colorado plateau, it likely could've been refered to as "Ponderosa Savannah" where Ponderosas and fire adapted grasses would've been the dominant plants with fire selecting out non fire adapted plants. Those steep rock outcroppings with little to understory would've made a great refugia for non-fire adapted plants as well. During the last ice age this site likely hosted even higher elevation mixed conifer forests with old bristle cones being a co-dominant component of the ecosystem.
I kinda love how milo doesn't sugar coat the american history, thing that allways messes with me, as someone who lives in a country that also was colonized but the history class don't sugar coat it
Don't want to be one of those guys, but the phrase is "sugar coat"
@@ciarenkruger8347 thanks, im not a Native english speaker so this actually helps me a lot
I always feel so terrible for the indigenous people 😢
Hopefully some day their ancient lands will be returned to them
@@caramelldansen2204 lmaoo not gonna happen
Yes. One should be able to be both proud and ashamed of one's nation's past deeds. And in that way learn to seek to discourage the wrong and encourage the right in the future.
Huh. I was doing a bit of familial history, and I've actually been curious about why, around the end of the 17th century, it seems like almost all of my ancestors from New Mexico seemingly went back to Mexico for a little while. I had no idea. That puts a lot into perspective that the white settlers were kicked out for a time.
Yup. My man Popé said "get the steppin'."
They teach the Pueblo Revolt in New Mexico history class in 7th grade here in New Mexico.
they teach it as part of the Owned By Spain part of TX history
@@dodie-poopsco.6893 Yes Spain controlled parts of New Mexico. Texas owned New Mexico only in their own imagination. They never militarily controlled it.
As a New Mexico resident, can I just say I’ve been SO happy to see our history, culture, and landscape highlighted by your recent videos. NM often gets reduced to just Roswell, Los Alamos, and Breaking Bad, but we have so much more to offer than that. We have the oldest continuously used settlement in America! We have some of the most well-preserved petroglyphs in the country, if not the continent. We have THE oldest state capital in the US! We’re so much more than grey aliens and atom bombs, and it’s so nice to see that being appreciated here
I'm amazed how those carvings survived to this day. Sure, some might have been lost to time, but so many remain. Also, how the ancient markings weren't destroyed by more recent passersby. They could've easily chiseled away the ancient carvings, but the desire to leave their own name instead won
This series is so ambitious. It rivals projects with multiple times the budget with full cast and crew. Takes me longer to watch because I don't just want it to play in the background, I want to absorb it.
I went there in 5th grade!! Im full blodded Pueblo from several different villages and my dad and I were allowed to go in and pray at the Kiva towards the top! It was truly humbling to see what and where my people came from and it still being recognizable as part of our culture.
Milo & team, this series is seriously blowing my mind. Thank you all for all the hard work and effort yall put in to teach us about a part of the country rarely taught about OR talked about!
The videos like this you post are more informative and are of a higher quality than what I have seen on PBS and even BBC documentaries.
BBC documentaries are quite good. Still, his idea of combining moto travelling and visiting these historical places, is just awesome. YT is amazing, the stuff people come up with...
The biggest "I was here" site, I love it, this is just so human 😂
Old time graffiti
I really hope you decide to upload more episodes of this series someday (hopefully soon). I was genuinely so excited for it!
Just so everyone remembers to watch Dark Routes. It is a great chronicle.
I didn’t realize the ancients used antlers to carve in rock. I assumed they used other rocks. Thanks for all the info. I’ve been researching for years & happy to learn something new.
Bone, ivory and antler were used in places were flint was difficult to come by, although all over the world archeology has shown that flint was traded hundreds of kilometers into areas where it couldn't be found. It was a valuable resource. But sandstone is soft enough that it can be carved with relatively soft materials like bone and antlers, which were of course easy to come by where people hunted.
Antler is unbelievably tough stuff. Have you tried breaking a piece that you've found in the woods?
I tried.
I just hurt myself.
The antler survived just fine!
😖😁
Antler (and bone) are much less brittle than rock and can take the repeated strike force well. They don't need to be very hard to be harder than sandstone.
Antler is great for knapping obsidian tools!
PUERTO RICO MENTIONED!
For a second I thought so but considering he said it was the american southwest, there just probably is a place called like that, sadly.
Tristemente no 😔 Esta hablando de Nuevo México
Diaaantre parece que no. Pero Wepa boricua quelaque
I was so excited to hear about El Morro in PR initially, still a pretty dope video
Britain is mentioned all the time. That's why we think we are special 😂
Excellent Milo! This may be my favorite so far. I didn't know El Moro was the second designated National Park/Monument in our system nor did i understand it's significance. I live in the Four Corners area. I look forward to your further road adventures. Be well. Please keep the rubber side down. 😉
23:32 for such a serious topic, I laughed my ass off at the animation. Kudos to whoever on your team did that!
Huh, I didn't realize there was another major historical site in the US called El Morro, but it makes a lot of sense! I was thinking of the one in Puerto Rico, which is a former Spanish fortress and now a tourist-friendly outdoor museum. (crossing my fingers hoping Milo goes to PR one day!! there's some amazing stuff there!)
But I'm so glad I got to learn about this place too! The ancestral Puebloans were incredible. I'm losing my mind at the story of them driving the Spanish out, and that bit with satellite imagery showing how much city is still underground. Wow. ♥
This series knocked it out of the park! Insane! Really really hope to see more someday, so amazing so much history happened at these places
Hey Milo! You were realy close to tapia canyon, which is minutes away from the Guadalupe Ruins. Thousands of petroglyphs.
Your videography is evolving! I see how you are perfecting your craft - nothing like studying what you love! Keep up the amazing work, I am watching every video!
Anyone know if he’s doing more of these? Or are there just these 3 episodes?
I am so proud of you... I subbed right after you started the channel... and I have been so excited watching you grow.. WELL DESERVED! I only sub to good channels.. and I guess everyone else is finding out! It was just the other day at 1 Mil... Now almost 2 million! WOW!!!!
Learning about the human side of archaeology is really interesting, gotta say.
I absolutely love the aesthetic & vibe of the intro animations. This episode is really well put together & covering a fascinating topic. Stay awesome man. I really appreciate your curiosity
Hey Milo! As the year comes to a close, I wanted to take a moment to send my warmest wishes to you. May the upcoming holiday season bring you joy, relaxation, and cherished moments with loved ones. May you find inspiration and creativity in the coming year, and may it be filled with success, growth, and exciting new opportunities.
Your content has been a source of knowledge and entertainment for many, and I want to express my gratitude for the valuable content you've shared. Thank you for being a part of this online community and for your dedication to your craft.
Wishing you a peaceful and joyful holiday season, a fantastic New Year, and continued success in all your endeavors. Stay safe and keep up the fantastic work!
In the NM they fortunately teach us about popè and the acoma and their knots. The revolt was awesome to learn about.
If I remember at all correctly from certain college history classes, the Mexican American War was not supposed to end for the Americans as it did. The intent had been a complete annexation of Mexico, but apparently they bit off more than they could chew in one sitting, and so halted the fighting, leaving the rest of Mexico in the refrigerator for a future meal or two. However, the borders remain basically the same.
Milo et al…. This episode didn’t make it onto the playlist for the series.
Also, thank you for following your passions. The product shows the love you’ve injected into it.
I live not to far from this place (relatively speaking it's out in the middle of nowhere) and it's awesome to see milo stomping around a place I've actually been to.
This series is so good! Never stop my friend.
This is the most underrated series. Holy shit, I have to blast this EVERYWHERE.
👋🏽 from New Mexico
This is super interesting since I just went to petroglyph national monument in Albuquerque where similar carvings are abundant over hundreds and even thousands of years of indigenous occupation And then later Spanish and American carvings. I had no idea El Morro had an actual Oñate carving. That's wild.
Helpful pronunciation guide:
Pueblo=Pweh-blow
Piñon=Peen-yohn
Cibola=See-bowl-uh
Acoma=Ack-uh-muh
This is the only documentary id watch willingly
Love the series.
Love the approach.
Please keep 'em coming.
This guy deserves a real tv show
I will forever admire the human urge to see something cool and add to or copy it. We haven't changed, lol. It's like a meme spanning hundreds of years. (Well I mean if you take the original definition of that word it kinda is)
I'm from North-Eastern Oklahoma. While I don't remember hearing about the Long Walk, I did learn about the Trail Of Tears. My (our) ancestors have a lot to answer for.
This is a great series! Reminds me of an old cartoon I used to watch, MYSTERIOUS CITIES OF GOLD. At the end of each episode, they used to have a 1 min facts about the ancient people of the south-west.
I remember going to El Morro on one family road trip-It was awesome! So long as you don’t bust the crust!
Milo, you are an amazing kid!! You stick to the facts as you know & understand them. You have a very down to earth personality that is very personable. & I love watching & learning from you.
Yay 🎉. New video for my birthday 🎂
I hope the next episode comes out soon
It's such an interesting place to think about because so many people from vastly different times have come through there and left their marks throughout history
I am digging the geology lessons as much as the history!
The production value of this series is top tier. Excellent storytelling. I know next to nothing about that part of the country, so it’s fascinating to learn about it from you.
I still feel considerable guilt about living on what was once Osage/Kiowa/Kaw land. Those people were done dirty, and there’s no sugarcoating it.
18:05 one correction, the dead/missing Franciscan priests were further east, along the Rio Grande - as they had received reports of their death. The actual story is fascinating as well! After confirming their death they continued west to Zuni. But great video otherwise :)
Born and raised nearby, one of my favorite hikes of all time, before the snows stopped being decent the water was much clearer and potable.
these are great, i watch them always wishing there was more of them
@T-elegram-TheMiniminuteman hits you with a big stick
Listen, istg at least 500 of these views are just me. I can’t get over how much I love this series and how much I love the accompanying vlog for this episode. For those who haven’t watched it, please do. Istg the coincidences around Milo’s visit here were so freaking cool
This was the best so far I grew up in southern California and we were taught this in elementary school don't know what they teach now but that was my favorite subject thanks for reminding me of how fun school was in the 60's 🤔😸🤗😽!!!
Opened CZcams hoping this would be the first thing I saw. And it was.
It’s a good day
This needs to be added to the Dark Routes playlist! :)
This is so sick
another excellent post. 10000 bonus points
I agree Milo.. it’s crazy how time happens everywhere all the time.
We have our histories compartmentalized from each other in some senses
Fantastic as always! Thank you for your work.
Now that you've completed this trip, I'd like to see you do another in my neck of the woods (Missouri and the Ozark Mountain Range).
omg i saw one of those sacred rooms with a hole in the top at Mesa Verde when i was 9 and just now learning the significance of that room i saw
Looking forward to that next Awful Archeology vid 😉
This is the perfect birthday gift thanks Milo! :)
I do think its pretty great how the urge to carve "I was here" into rocks is such a universal human experience.
That was an "S tier" episode!
„Mastodons, mammoths, no better trees“ 8:18
Couldn’t agree more, those are some beautiful pines
You said pictographs, yet, these are all petroglyphs. It's important for people to know the difference. Love your channel.
I didn't know that the pueblo on the mesa was so big! I have been to El Morro three times. I really like that hike to the top of the mesa. It is one of my favorite hikes.
I was not prepared for the wagon 3d render.
I’m just saying, I love history and archaeology, but watching the cutest guy explain history is just beyond the best thing.
Great video!
Can't wait for the next episode! You're an American hero.
That bit with the driverless, horseless wagon running away as a pincushion made me laugh way more than it should have.
It's important to note that Ponderosa Pines have survived constant fire regimes in their native habits for millions of years. In fact the bark of a Ponderosa is extremely fire resistant (almost fire proof). While Pinion and Juniper get killed by fire, sufficiently tall Ponderosas will thrive in fire-swept landscapes
I know it’s in the interests of conservation, but it’s sad that we don’t have people still write their names and histories on it! I feel that Milo’s assessment of it being a guestbook is the way it has grown throughout time, and to not continue this tradition is irresponsible. I am usually a purist but for this one I would have to make an exception and allow some contemporary modifications… at least by any natives who are still around
Outstanding, as ever. And damn right, just sitting looking at rocks is overwhelming sometimes. 😜
I went to El Morro today (middle of January 2024) It was better than the video! Plus, the acronym for the park is ELMO and they have little stickers that say it. Ha! The waterfalls were ice and the silence was broken only by the occasional ice fall and the little birds. 10/10, will visit again.😊
An awesome series so far Mon Frere Ami! Looking forward to more great videos from you. Ciao!
Im very late to this but had to say how amazing this series is! Only just found your channel and im hooked, going on site just adds so much to it and your humor is perfect! Keep up the amazing work man
The way you say "the MORMONS." 😂
Native US sites don't always get a lot of attention. Glad to see a US site get it's story told.
I'm really glad you gained such a huge following in 2 years I haven't seen one of your videos in 2 years
Love your work. Have a great (which ever) mid-winter festival. Pip pip
This is a great Saturday video, thank you so much 😊 I love learning!
20:30 - about the 'they once used graphite to keep those carvinvs readable - but then stopped because it was a bad idea' thing - we are at a point where archeologists not only search for remnants of old civilisations - but also analyze early attempts and methodes of archeology itself. "How did our ancestors do archeology"... that's kinda meta :D
These videos can't come out quick enough. I wish my history teacher at school was as interesting as you.
Going prime time⭐. Thank you Milo , always informative! Always entertaining!
Loved you in Workaholics man. Good to see you back on your feet.
It's interesting how as a species, humans seem to have a need to mark the world and say that they were there. Carvings, cave paintings, monuments, all of that. From cave paintings to blasting sculpture out of mountains.
This series is amazing so much I never knew. Thank you.
This series is so good!! There's so much history that I had absolutely no idea about
I'm absolutelutely loving the series so far! I never knew a whole lot about about the history of north america because i didnt really learn that in school
This is again such a great episode 🎉
Thanks for bringing me back to watching History shows.
Wowww cool. I'm in the midwest so the premiere lined up to finale around 4:20 and I must say that was some really good stuff there.
Nice animation level-up and also good job doing what you're doing. It's refreshing to hear a fellow speaking bluntly of conquest and colonization, murd*r, r*pe, and pillage. That deserves, at the *very least*, recognition from everyone.
Thanks for showing me places I may or may not ever be able to see irl. I've been everywhere north, and hardly anywhere south. Planning to go see as many effigy mounds and mound sites as possible. Cahokia as well as the Adena sites in Ohio top priority.
Milo Rossi - You are the absolute PINNACLE of "the fucking man" (in a really wholesome and good way) lol
Glad you stopped calling the petroglyphs pictographs. Love the series, and can't wait to explore NM with friends who live there! I actually love the cultural stuff, ALL of the cultural stuff. Brilliant!
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