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Catholic Priest BRILLIANTLY explains Who God is | Bishop Barron and Lex Fridman
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- In this video, Bishop Barron eloquently explains how to conceptualize God.
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Bishop Barron is one of the most well articulated persons I’ve heard. Explaining the traditional understanding of gods nature is no easy task and yet he does it here with such ease and splendor.
Did you watch the video?
God's. Avoid confusion, brother and sister.
Word salad. He has no clue
@@AlexLightGiver
But you, “LightGiver“? Or maybe you're just jealous. 😉
@@Imitatechrist jealous of a man controlled by an institution that invented the Antichrist and refused to recognize Mary Magdalene as the Lead Disciple of Christ,? No, sir
"Now faith is the *certainty* of things hoped for, a *proof* of things not seen." - Hebrews 11:1
So why didn't you bold "hoped" and "not seen"? Hebrews 11: 1 is nothing more than blind (not seen) wishful (hoped) thinking. Using this epistemology gives you "proof" and "certainty" that literally anything could be true.
@@downenout8705 Do you have eternal life...or just behavior modification?
@@user-jd9zm4jf3t What a very strange false dichotomy. So my answer is neither.
@@downenout8705 You dont have eternal life? That's a problem...dont you think?
@@user-jd9zm4jf3t Not a problem for me, I have no need to waste the one life that I know I have on wishfully chasing something that I have no good reason to believe exists.
Bishop Barron is utterly brilliant, consciously I was struggling to follow but was able to somehow subconcsiously and felt truth in each of his words. The most deep explanation of God's nature that I have ever heard. I always felt that attempting to explain God's 'being' to others is useless, God cannot be deciphered by mortal minds, nearly all of our limited minds are incapable of explaing God, that is why it was left to us to only follow and believe in Him.
Bishop word salad
@@AlexLightGiverGod is not a scientific proposition. Humble yourself
@@Earthad23 alrighty
@@AlexLightGiver You know it all I guess
@@Earthad23 nope
Bishop Barron has a great teaching ministry. I watch his Sunday Sermons every week. So inspiring.
I had a big urge to smoke, but I started watching this video. The cigarette waited 12 minutes.
😂
Good for you my friend, your redemption is at hand!
I see a pattern here 😉
Gloria a ti,señor, por todo, Viva Christo Rey
"Faith is the darkness beyond reason" hit me right in the brain tingles
I've got to disagree; faith is the substance of things hoped for on the basis of Christ's resurrection: an objective event in history. More generally our faith is reasonable confidence in the offer Yahweh holds out to us for eternal fellowship with him in his New Creation on the basis of that same resurrection. Faith is hardly 'darkness' it is the light of light! It is hardly beyond reason; our Creator is reason itself and has made us reasonable in order to be like him, as we are told in Genesis 1. So, please no wandering down existentialist abandoned paths.
@@dagwould Nope. Faith destroyed my entire family, caused the deaths of many of my ancestors and is continuing to destroy the Middle East. Faith in the name of God is used to subvert and control the minds of its followers so the church can use them for its own purposes and steal their money.
@@dagwould I know what the "proof texts" in Scripture say about faith. I think Barron's point eluded you.
Cause you actually think that jibberish means something. Sound like a Deepak Chopra statement. Bunch of word salad that means nothing.
@@dagwould Objective event in history? Make me laugh and gag at the same time. That's why historians have it written down as an objective event.
PRAY, PRAY, PRAY FOR THE TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST !!!
How do you know?
@@user-jd9zm4jf3t no one can explain the details. This is a matter of faith and blessing.
@@user-jd9zm4jf3t That is a problem isn't it. We have developed such vast powers of imagination, that combined with language and writing we solidify every little notional imagining. Then Joe Blow down the road thinks it is real when it is just more disinformation.
@@williamwightman8409 I dont think simply repeating what mortals say is the remedy
@@user-jd9zm4jf3t
Because Jesus founded ONE church
-And I tell you that you are Peter and on this Rock I will build my church -
Apostolic succession
The Pope and bishops of today can be traced back to the apostles and Peter all the records are there enough historical evidence of that and the existence of the The Catholic Church for 2000 years.
Simple as that.
He's not 'piggybacking on CS Lewis', Lewis was following Aquinas.
So, one cult member teaches another....the age old death of truth.
All those in timespace must acknowledge what has come before.
"We stand on the shoulders of giants" is a good phrase.
Piggybacking is a playful act, not an act of ego, if you imagine that Lewis could not have met Aquinas in his special relativity time-frame.
He has no choice but to acknowledge backwards from his present time.
It is not meant as a degradation.
@@LootRabbit It's not piggybacking....it's called PLAGIARISM! And the worst part is that 80-90% of the Bible has been proven to have been plagiarized from other sources, so everyone postulating God's "word" and Jesus' "words" are literally plagiarizing a book full of plagiarized stories. This is why people who are non-religious can't stand religious zealots-they know this factual information already and have to tolerate the sheer ignorance that comes out of believers' mouths. It needs to stop! We are no longer an illiterate species with no access to published evidence and proof who will be imprisoned and killed for asking questions and refusing to take part. Well.....the Middle East is still stuck in the 1500s....but the other 90% of the world is not under penalty of torture and death in the name of God.
@@malcmitchell9738 WTAF are you talking about? Truth is based on evidence and proof. The entire Bible has been factually proven to be mostly plagiarized stories from far older sources-the Sumerians for much of the Old Testament, and multiple stories for Jesus-Attis, Osiris/Isis/Horus, Zeus, Dionysus, Krishna, etc.
Are you just not aware of all the published ancient history showing the ACTUAL truths about where the Judaic and Christian religions stole their stories from?
Or do you just lap up whatever your religion tells you with no evidence, and you never question anything they say?
The finite creation cannot comprehend its infinite creator.
so stop talking about him
@@critical_thinking_is_welcome We can't know everything but we can know something. That "something" is important. For example we have to decide whether or not God exists at all.
@@gerardk51 we can't decide that lol; its a matter of faith. All the greatest intellectuals knew that the proofs for god existence fail. Therefore we need to look at scripture to decide wether or not religion is true. And then we realize that taken literally scripture is nonsense.
@@critical_thinking_is_welcome All the greatest intellectuals knew that the proofs for god existence are true.
@@gerardk51 tell me that you have no knowledge of the history of philosophy without actually telling me
Barron is a Catholic? this is really fascinating. never understood "God" before but this makes sense
He is not only a Catholic, but a Bishop.
@@yes2day100 so in order to make "sense" of god, you must put it "outside of reality" .. just as christians allready do with all other gods... easy.. but also, TO EASY !
now, he must adress the talking burning bush, the talking snakes, talking donkey and talking pigs and the position of the laws of nature and the intervention of god/demons/angels... sure, whenever a 'supernatural event' happens in other religons = FALSE /misdiretion/etc, but when it happens in the" believers" religion = OFFCOURSE TRUE ! else our whole religion has no foundation ! repent or perrish, righ ? !
@@mekavio8231 Get well soon.
@@gerardk51 unlike religious ppl, i"m not sick with (self)indoctrination , and being fanatic about manmade books that make supernatural claims.
@@mekavio8231 Life is more than books. You can believe in God without ever having read any book.
So beautiful to say all that encounter God thru His Beautiful presence become beautiful themselves; as the burning bush did in His Light. Such a Beautiful Father thru His Beautiful Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit 🙏
Love the Tolkien analogy. God as author.
I particularly didn't like this last analogy..because if he is the author of the story, there is a reality out of this reality.. I think god is the story. That's why you can''t find him or point at him.. he is everywhere or every thing
@@user-bi1dp4km2o couldn’t it be both?
It could but that would imply that there is a this or that.. this realty and or that reality.. I don't think there is a this or that.. but only a that. There is only that what seams to appear as everything..@@chrism6664
that's more pantheistic @@user-bi1dp4km2o
please insert zeus, or shiva, or ra, or any other god, where he conveniently puts his "own"
Lao Tse really was onto something when he said "The Dao that can be named is not the eternal Dao"
Yes, we call this Brahman in Hinduism.
@@pauljohnson6019 Brah moment
Not to be confused with Brahma tho
@@Kaspar502 Lord Brahma is the Creator, he's still part of the material Universe, Brahman is the pure spirit, which is also Krsna.
Unnamed it is the Father of All things. Named it is the Mother of 10000 things.
He's not just a priest, but an awesome bishop, my friend.
And a smooth talking con man.
@@repealthepatriotact I'm here give testimony to the truth in which Jesus set me free. no other truth that is out there than has the power to do that. not in this life and especially not in the next. I encourage to read the Bible for yourself, read the Quran, read Buddhism. meditate, go in the forest, etc. do all these things. because in the end all roads lead to Jesus. God in human form. the on true god. without god humbling himself to become man and die for our sins after living a perfect life, there is no point. yes, family, friends are all amazing things. but true joy is found in God through Jesus, and what he's done. no other.
Jesus Christ is a person. He can be with you and within you. When He comes to you and touches your heart, you have faith because you can't not have it because He's real! He'll set you on fire too! ❤❤❤
Nope. Entire story has been debunked as fiction written by Greek authors and the Flavian scholars. Total fraud being used to manipulate society and politics.
Tell me, who did Jesus say God is?
@@cbooth151 He didn't say anything. The words attributed to him are not his. Jesus was illiterate, the disciples were illiterate, that is why there are ZERO first-hand accounts transcribing what he said and what he did. Everything in the New Testament has been proven to be either fictional retellings many years after the events by authors hundreds of miles away, or written by the Flavian scholars, who cobbled together Old Testament prophecies and plagiarized from other myths(Osiris, etc).
OR were stories imagined by Paul of Tarsus, who dictated them to his slaves. Paul of Tarsus-who had never met Jesus, and who apparently hated the disciples of the newly-formed Messianic cult that was desperately fighting to gain followers. Many scholars, after consulting with neurologists, now agree that the source of the "visions" and conversations he had with Jesus were likely caused by the common side-effect of detailed hallucinations induced by epileptic seizures. He also may have consumed Ayahuasca, a known hallucinogenic plant existing in the area in that time and that is even there today. A plant that is now known to have been taken by Moses, which induced his hallucinogenic trip, resulting in his wild story on the mountain and his ten commandments edict.
So, let's be clear:
God talks to someone and it's in the Bible: Acid trip
Jesus talks to someone and it's in the Bible: Epilepsy or acid trip.
Modern day person talks to Jesus: Insane, locked up and medicated in a mental hospital. Or....runs a cult where other people believe they have talked to Jesus, or the members will believe whatever they are told without verifying what they were told.
If he is in me then he is molesting me. I don't want that.
Question: shall I worship everyman who is filled with the Holy Spirit (God-head)?
Using Aquinas is, of course, brilliant. I am a Protestant Evangelical but I have come to realize that Aquinas is the supreme advocate of the Christian (Western) understanding of God outside the Bible. The top Protestant classic theologians all rely heavily upon Aquinas.
Aquinas was Catholic. You are sola scriptura.
@dominicbriganti5710 No, he's Solo Cathlicah
There are many brilliant minds in the Catholic faith! I hope you have the chance to look into more authors like John Paul II, St. Augustine, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Chesterton...to name a few
@@dominicbriganti5710so what
I thought protestant theologians would rely more upon Augustine than Aquinas
Fantastic!! I've never heard anything like this before. Im going to share this with my Church folks!! Brilliant is not the word !! Thank you so much for sharing this clip!
Tolkien was in the book, he imprinted himself in the book, but no only himself, he channeled many of humanity's myths and philosophy. I like to see The Silmarillion as the evolution of The Bible, Tolkien did a genius work, I truly believe he channeled Gods and Humanity's spirit into his work.
Another level of the fractal of being.
The deepest understanding of God comes from the Hindu Vedic texts, in Advaita Vedanta, where God is you, when you realize you are not you, you can see God all the time, when you see him from outside ur being
Beyond the MEASURE of human understanding
What’s hidden is always more important.
yes, beyond !! , just as the wisdom of shiva, the compassion of kali, the power of zeus, the love of aphrodite, etc...
For those who have never studied (thomistic) metaphysics - Bishop Barron has an incredible understanding of the terminology and its application
probably 99.999999% of the population haveny studied metaphysics..... great communicator I dont think.
Thomistic metaphysics is just a polished form fo intellectual gymnastics. Its a joke, particularly since its born from the Platonic intellectualization of God and is pagan. The Thomistic God has literally nothing to do with the being described in the bible, at all.
@@malcmitchell9738 The God of the bible, even according to the bible, is just one of many Gods. He's also arbitary, vicious, blood thirsty, prone to changing his mind. He sets down, according to Christianity, a set of laughable legalistic rules that make Jews into legalistic obsessed hypocrites.
You are welcome to your beliefs, but again, nothing of what is described in the Thomastic theological interpretation of God is rooted from a direct reading of the bible and is dependent on pagan philosophy.
Ironically, the more you study theology the more the entire description of God moves from a biblical to a Platonic, pagan description. Its kind of hilarous.
@@malcmitchell9738 From a purely factual discussion, in biblical terms, Jesus does argue with the Pharisees over their hypocracy. The follow the letter of the law but not the spirit. I think that we can agree on that. This is not to say that Jesus rejects the law. For Christians, there argue that he came to fullfill the true meaning of the law. Great. But how did that interpretation become established?
The 'rejection' of the law did not come from Jesus. It didn't come from Peter. In fact, the leader of the early church was James, according to the New Testament, and he firmly rejected the innovation away from the law established by Paul. Paul never followed or met Jesus, but was converted after his dead.
Christians, by neccessity, must believe that all of his original followers and chosen disciples didn't understand his teachings to believe that the law was suppose to be discarded. Jesus never rejected the 'laws of Moses', he just gave a critique of the law because its followers were always trying to find loopholes or practicing them at the surface level. All the early apostles maintain the law until Paul. Peter also only rejects the laws in a vision, after Jesus has been crucified. Even after the 'vision', he tried to hide the fact that he was eating with gentiles from James. He would do it with Paul, but only when James or his representatives were not present. James, the brother of Jesus, was a strict 'kosher' Jew.
So, no, in fact we can assert that the laws were from 'God', both in a biblical sense and also by the very faith of the early Christians.
Those are facts. And to refute them orthdox Christians are the ones that have to go through mental gymnastics.
We can also, frankly speaking, admit that the laws are absured and gross and disgusting. Make of that what you will.
I'm not an atheist, not really. But I think that the greatest trap is getting mentally boxed into a theological system. I am someone interested in truth. Again, if you read the bible closely you'll see that its not linked to the 'God' of Thomas Aquinas. That's just true. And even the relationship of the law to Christiannity and the true beliefs of Jesus are not what most christians naively believe.
Let me put it this way, the close followers of Jesus, his apostles and brothers, would have refused to break bread with you because you were a dirty goy. You believe this is the kind of message that would be propogated by the son and incarnation of God on earth? Think hard.
The ending was insane. Praise be to God.
Wow that was awesome. Lex Friedman always has these thought provoling interviews.
"Authentic faith is the darkness beyond reason"
Authentic faith is the continuous striving motivated by love to trust with absolute certainty in the truth for which there is an horizon that extends beyond our limited understanding and beyond that horizon is an infinite mystery which is the being of all time and all things.
Or more succinctly "authentic faith" is gullibility beyond reason.
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@@downenout8705 Precisely!
5:37 God is within you. Seek him with all your heart and soul because he is within.
The secret that the church does not want you to know, for once you go within, you learn that the church has been lying to you.
To accept the " reality" of GOD seeking and finding me.
I agree with the title of this video - this really is a BRILLIANT explanation of God. If, some 50 years ago, I had been told about God using this type of language, there would have been no need for me to reject the Church and look to the East for a spiritual path. Fortunately, I now come across such incredible insightful priests as Bishop Barron and begin to see a much deeper, more meaningful path than I ever thought possible.
I now follow the advice of so many within the Church and try to empty myself of all ideas, preconceptions and bigotry, especially when it comes to the nature of what God is/is not. I sit in Silence and wait.
Thank you for posting this - an extraordinary revelation.
A segment from 'Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within'...
My new understandings of what many call 'God -The Holy Spirit' - resulting from some of the extraordinary ongoing after-effects relating to my NDE. during September 1970..
Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave.
The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration. ‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist.
For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is.
Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses. To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment.
The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing.
The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlies all spiritual and physical existence.
The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law that allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice versa. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists.
Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents. Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’.
On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication.
For example, the levels of difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything.
NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result of any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things conventionally - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life, including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream, already exists within us.
And God did show up on stage 2000 years ago. That’s why when He is perfectly disclosed to us at Calvary crucified on a tree, He says “It is finished.”
Now, what if we were to learn to live like this? Like the author has already showed up?
So we and you Bishop will not know God in full until we die and meet him. I say he is our light and salvation and the foundation of our life. Have faith and thank him for all that is good and all we have been blessed with. Your words escape the most common of men- those that Jesus chose to spread his word. Simplify your words.
Watch "Vanity" youtube video by Bishop Sanborn. He is teaching a seminary class but he explains what the deal is with these big words!
There is no word yet invented to explain what is God but can explain through the faith not all faith but Christian faith.
To be precise, He said, "I Am Who Am".
To believe in God means to be humble.
I agree. That is why I believe in Zeus.
Sure, he created every single thing ever specifically with you in mind… super humble
@@lancep4164 hail zeus, god of gods, master of olympus !!!
the opposite.. arrogance on full display.. how can you KNOW god or what it is he/she/it wants.? except from divine wisdom ( hahah! ) in an ancient book
@@JohnKerr-bq3vo You can know God if he revealed himself.
Very interesting and very universal and open minded talk. This conversation would probably be the same with an Advaita Vedanta teachers.
I learned something from watching this. For a guy that knows it all, it doesn't happen often, lol
And it still hasn't happened. The priest just spoke word salad nonsense and explained nothing but some ideas and opinions.
Faith eminates energy unkown and very powerful'' its from one inn tune too love and its far reaching power†
Bishop Robert Barron for Pope!
100% agree!
Following Rene Descartes meditation
Category 1: Minds
I exist and I am a mind. Therefore Minds exist.
Category 2: Matter
I have feelings. These feelings originate from sensors in what I call my body. The sensors are receptive to stimulation from events created from within my body and from events created from outside my body. The stuff that bring about these events I shall categorise as matter. Thus my body is also made of matter. Therefore Matter exists.
Category 3: Space
My body needs space and matter in general needs space. Matter can exist only in space. Therefore space must exist.
Category 4: Time
My body needs time to change and matter in general needs time for change. Matter can change only in time. Therefore time must exist.
From the above observation I conclude that these 4 categories permeate each other and exist equally with none more abstract or less abstract than another.
Now to the question of the origin of these categories
Could it be that any one or more of these categories can be made from any one or more of the remaining categories? Could these categories transform from one to another?
Matter needs space and time for its existence, therefore without space and time matter will not exist as such matter could not have been the origin of space and time.
From physics it has been observed that space and time can give rise to matter spontaneously. As such matter maybe a result of a localised change to space and time.
So then could space and time be the origin of everything else?
Again from the theory of the Big Bang all space, time and matter originated from this singular event. Therefore space and time could not alone have brought about the other categories.
Since the big bang was an event, could it be that all things are made from events?
Where there is space, time and matter there is always an event.
There can be no space , time or matter without events.
In an instant all of space and the matter is nothing more or nothing less than a set of events. So then space, time and matter is one and the same as a set of simultaneous events from one instant to the next.
From this observation the 4 categories can be reduced to 2 categories
Category 1 : Minds
Category 2 : Events
Now then can minds exist without events. We know that simultaneous events give rise to feeling in minds. We know from special relativity simultaneous events cannot give rise to anything physical or material. Therefore feelings cannot be physical or material. Now as feelings are a part of minds we must conclude minds are not physical.
Now can the mind exist without feelings OR does feelings create the mind, that is one and the same as the mind?
If feeling create the mind then as feelings are created by events then space, time and matter which we have concluded is the same as events, must also have feeling and thus be one and the same as a mind.
Thus we would need to conclude a rock has a mind or is part of a mind to the same extent that my brain is a mind or is part of a mind.
This conclusion is not palatable as such let’s consider the OTHER alternative
Now if a mind can exist without feeling then we also know that the mind can create events. (e.g throw a rock, move a finger)
So then given that the mind can create events then the big bang (The Event) could have originated from The Mind in order to evoke feelings in other minds.
These other minds may have also been created by The Mind.
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Truth has said, 'He is like a Father.'
Bishop Barron is making this too complicated. I went to CUA too. God is outside of time. Just like eternity, which is not time at all. This explains why "I am".
Human language is limited. God is not. So I think impossible to explain. Christ, God incarnate, is the only Way. + And you can know Him as a friend. Incredible! +
Lex I think was recognizing he's among a true genius, but more importantly someone touched by God to teach us about God.
The bishop’s comments are brilliant. Aquinas would approve. For me, things start to fall apart when Catholic doctrine gets attached to sound existential reasoning. Such dogmas seem more byproducts of human history and politics than expressions of God’s essence being his existence.
Wow!! The vocabulary that rolls off Bp. Barron’s tongue is incredible. I have to have the dictionary next to me!!
He does that to confuse and impress the weak-minded. It's what all con men do so you feel too dumb to question them. And....it worked!
To obfuscate.
This pastor obviously study or was exposed to the Upanishads, Vedanta or Eastern wisdom at some point.
Yes and it made him a better Bishop
@@simonpeters8503 It would be interesting to hear him reconcile his understanding of God with his Catholicism.
Bishop Barron, there was an Armenian, G. Gurdjeiff who said, "You can live three weeks without Food. You can live three days without Water. You can live three minutes without Air. But, you cannot live three micro-seconds without Impressions." If, you believe in God and understand that He is the One that Sustains your Being, then, all your chatter is mute.
God is a circle whose centre is everywhere and circumference is infinite.
God is the I AM
.....exactly and succinctly expressed.
Has anyone understood? Can anyone repeat in plain
English what God is? Then remember what Sint Augustine once said: si comprehendis, non est Deus (if you understand, it is not God.)
Hahaha no
I think yes and no, obviously we can’t fully understand. But we are called to know him and how can we know that which we do not understand. I also believe understanding and knowing him comes as a Grace from Him, through Revelation. But we will never fully comprehend for therefore he would not be God.
We haven't understood, but we have a good articulation of our misunderstandings, and of why we endure them.
That sounds like a Trump rally or Fox News throwing spin for MAGA nonsense lol.
God is an eternal uncaused being not belonging to any category human mind can comprehend
GOD is a Spirit WHO is ALL KNOWLEDGE, LOVE & FREEWILL
I don’t believe I am stupid but I did not understand at all what he was trying to say! Anyone else?
The closest thing we have to seeing God is love. When we love one another we are as close to God as we can be. And what is love? Where is it? Can you set it on a table and point it out? No. God is the same way for he is love.
My favorite image of God is one that Dante paints in his Divine Comedy which is that God tends the garden of Eden every day in case humanity ever wants to come home.
He wants us. But the sin of the world blinds us from his love.
God doesn't have an image
Love is a chemically induced feeling to inspire procreation & to motivate the formation of organized groups as we r a social species.
The unmoved mover. The unactualized actualizer.
God is the story in its totality.
The "mind of God" is a beautiful thing when Man (male OR female) can explain it so eloquently like Bishop Barron can. The logical "infallibility" of God is what makes the "God-Experience" so extraordinary. For some "it remains to be seen" for their entire lives, but one can be so blessed to experience in the NOW, in real time. For my own sake, I recognize God, fundamentally, as "Intuition". The ability to grasp concepts "out of the blue", two people speaking in perfect rhyme, rhythm, sometimes for hours at a time. That is a Godly conversation (when it comes from a place of love and trust).
That was awesome
Bishop Barron!!! 🙏🏻🫡
Thomas Aquinas' doctrine of "via negativa" germane to Theistic Ontology is still relevant in current theological discourse: We know more about what God is not than what we know who God is .
God is a concept that means different things to different people.
The captions are way off. This sounds like word play.
Mine are synched
i dont understand. If god is everything and beyond reason why would our faith which is based off reason even matter.
Great question. I believe that faith is based on reason. It’s really a modern idea that faith isn’t based on reason. For example, in the Latin, faith can be expressed “con fide” or with faith. It’s the etymology for the English word confidence. Certainly, one needs reasons to be confident, one needs to be “con fide” in their reasons.
I was prepared for doctrine and dogma, but instead I heard a non-restrictive description. It was really enjoyable to listen to this man.
My speculation is that he is not only tolerant of other religions, but may even be able to acknowledge that they too follow a path back to the creator.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Bishop Barron has a lot to unlearn.
I really appreciate Bishop Barron and learn from his insight. I find the King James Bible verse of Exodus more fitting to his description of God where God says, "I am that I am" because God the creator is not a "who." !
His words are so correct.. this is Pantheism. God is all. God is beyond all.
And all beings are God. And the bliss from God is truly an inexplicable joy.
An analogy is that every being in the ocean of water is in God.
And Christ brought humanity to humans to worship on a very light level.
Wow! I was expecting to be disappointed, but I'm actually very impressed with his knowledge.
To understand what Bishop Barron is talking about, you need to have a background on Philosopy, specialy Scholastic Philosopy.
I agree LOL. Try watching a youtube video from Bishop Sanborn called Vanity. Its a seminary class he is teaching and you will get a kick out of it as it explains this!
You don’t understand fully yet. What he is describing is, the essence of god. The ultimate planner. You can only see the lord with complete faith. I really hope that you cannot discourage people. You don’t need knowledge. You need faith. Faith is the ultimate glasses that allows you to see his existence.
I have no idea what Bishop Barron is saying.😮
But I like it! 😊
😂
Suggestion- follow his channel. Most of his videos and homilies are utterly superb but on a more comprehensible mode. He is brilliant.
@@luluq01 He is indeed Brilliant! Thank you for the suggestion.
@@kellycurran4608 You will not be disappointed. He has over one million followers.
This can be summed up as "Trust me bro". Wow, I'm sold.
Your response reeks of preconceived bias. If all you got was “trust me bro,” then you’re way behind.
Explain please. I have no bias, I don't care either way. But its clear that no actual argument was made.
He is Everything!!
Bishop Barron is brilliant.
What utter nonsense! You just have to believe. Why? Because we say so.
You miss literally all thoughts of the world about the Origin. Read End of Finitude by Meillassoux.
@8:30 in the programmer's world God is like the class file in which all other class files inherit from and the class file is the empty for which has no name, no data, yet is the structure of all beings within the compiled application.
I like Bishop Barron, but I'm not sure I comprehend his description of god. If we are created in his image it seems logical to have some properties like him. Furthermore, why would a creator make such a confusion? Isaiah 43:10 god tells Israel we have the capacity to understand him and know him. And lastly,how does he come to that conclusion?
I think your on to something. In theology, theologians make the distinction between the communicable and incommunicable attributes of God. The communicable attributes are shared and received by humans. However, I believe Bishop Barrens point is not that God can’t be known but he can’t be fully grasped. God is an infinite marvelous mystery.
@@tjseaney_ Thank you for your response. For me, I think " cannot fully grasped" as you say, has to do with forgiveness. We cannot forgive like God can and he does not give authority to men to do so.Isa.55:6-9. This is the part where I think we don't have the capacity to act like him.
@@baldeagle-cq2jl Interesting response. I do think that forgiveness would be one of God's communicable attributes. Meaning, we humans can embody and enact it. Other communicable attributes would be justice, mercy, grace, and love. Even though we can't perfectly embody these characteristics, they are characteristics of the imago dei. The incommunicable attributes of God would be his aseity (self-existence), His eternality and infinity. These are attributes unique to God. Take, for example, God's infinity. If God is infinite that would mean there will always be parts of God we cannot know. Calvin wrote, "Finitum non capax infinitum" or in other words, the finite cannot grasp the infinite. I believe this is what Barron is getting at. Whatever is finite, by logical necessity, cannot know all things. If God is infinite, parts of Him will always evade us. Again, it's a marvelous mystery it leads to worship.
"I AM" the One True Creator...have mercy on us.
Very very informative
Excellent....what happened, though? Why did the interview end abruptly?
I don't know if you made those captions yourself, but I'd like to point out that at 1:05, it shouldn't be "as then Cohen" but rather "zen koan" which is a tupe of spiritual poetry in eastern religions.
I try my best but I don’t catch everything thanks!
Jesus is God ❤
As an atheist I still find this to be a big empty bag of nothing. It’s still just asserting there is a deity without any proof of one. Total word salad and confirmation bias for those who already believe.
Well we have Jesus, God made man. That’s a proof.
So, you, as an atheist, would say the same thing about the existence of a quark? Or a Muon? Gluon?
I mean.. seeing is believing... in your opinion anyway... right?
And if it's proof you're after - why not first find proof of gravity first. And I don't want "word salad" of how you can feel the effects of gravity, or of the various theories.. I want you to SHOW me gravity. Where is that Graviton?!?!
And then think on this.. if someone can be so small minded to refute the existence of gravity - and how much of wasted, pointless energy would be spent on trying to convince that person that gravity would exist (especially one as small minded to say "SHOW it to me! - without seeing, there is no proof! And even after seeing it, i'll just discount it as a hallucination, or wishful thinking, or some other psychological issue").. and then realize that is exactly how atheists sounds to a believer... with one exception.. the believer always hopes and prays that they will finally wake up and realize the truth for themselves.
So, you, as an atheist, would say the same thing about the existence of a quark? Or a Muon? Gluon? I mean.. seeing is believing... in your opinion anyway... right? And if it's proof you're after - why not first find proof of gravity first. And I don't want "word salad" of how you can feel the effects of gravity, or of the various theories.. I want you to SHOW me gravity. Where is that Graviton?!?! And then think on this.. if someone can be so small minded to refute the existence of gravity - and how much of wasted, pointless energy would be spent on trying to convince that person that gravity would exist (especially one as small minded to say "SHOW it to me! - without seeing, there is no proof! And even after seeing it, i'll just discount it as a hallucination, or wishful thinking, or some other psychological issue").. and then realize that is exactly how atheists sounds to a believer... with one exception.. the believer always hopes and prays that they will finally wake up and realize the truth for themselves.
Comical how when you all don’t understand something you categorize it as “word salad” thus confirming your ignorance.
The creation is proof that there is a creator. A painting reflects the artist. The painting is proof that there's an artist. It would be quite silly to claim that a painting painted itself. Even though we don't the painter, we know that he exists because his painting is proof of his existence.
Faith is the confidence of determinism beyond our control and in the realm of god
God is in your head. Brilliantly explained.
Thanks for sharing, it is really very interesting.
A lesson on how to define your god into existence.
A god that can't be "found in the world" is indistinguishable from a god that doesn't exist.
Hasn't BB read his own Bible? God throughout the Old Testament can clearly be "found in the world".
Why is BB redefining "faith" when Hebrews 11: 1 provides a very clear definition? Maybe BB understands that this "faith" is blind and is not a reliable pathway to the truth.
Best comment on how this god is indistinguishable from no god at all
He acts in the world but he’s not part of it, there is a big difference.
@@frisco61 I suggest that you also read your Bible. Your god is most definitely portrayed as being part of this world. Do you not believe in the trinity? Was not the devine Jesus "part of the world"? Have you not read Ezekiel 43: 7?
I suggest that you stop taking Pslam fourteen so seriously. I am not the vile fool that your god tells you I am.
@@frisco61 You need to understand that I, like many atheists, lack a belief in your god because I have studied these matters with an open mind and not because I just want to sin, there is a big difference.
@WeaponofChoice-hx2hn Without leprechauns there could be no aleprechaunists.
Were all demons and God gave us the messages to learn from from all our sins.
God is the source of being. Most atheists believe in some source of all being, but they believe it is some stochastic process that caused the big bang. The real difference between the two groups is that believers hold that the source of all being is conscious, even consciousness itself, as opposed to a great accident.
Easiest way to prove theism: just define God as being. How can you disbelieve in being? Checkmate atheists.
I'll just redefine being!
It now means make-believe.
So god is being/make believe.
You can't just define to suit your needs.
I mean being what 😂
How about actual evidence for the first time ever in history 😂😂😂
It's just word salads circular reasoning and presupposition from theist.
That’s always been part of the canonical definition of God though even before Christianity. God as a being is the common interpretation mostly for the polytheists of yesterday and the atheists of today. The classical definition is the one that’s compatible with what most great scientists thought, Newton included.
In fact it’s hard to reason your way out of “pre-science” into a scientific revolution without understanding the God that Barron is talking about, but now that we’ve built the tool of science it’s hard to science your way back out of the tool. With reason you can do it but pure scientific method only deals with material reality
no, not just being but beyond and before being, as Christ is often implied as Alpha and Omega. God isn't a thing that can be categorized, but is the one who thought out all of the universe
Checkmate atheists?! Not even close. Be careful of the sin of pride, and boasting.
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No he's make believe!
Let God be with you, them, instead of you just thinking you know things. or anyone. God does all the act of faith, its not from flesh. or to be reasoned about.
God gave us this bishop. He is Brilliant. I wish we had such politicians. Could he be a Pope in making?
You can tell the difference between someone who knows the answer from experience... And someone who has read about the answer in a book.
Barron might as well be describing invisible aliens from Mars. He has no idea who God is.
Enlighten us.
@@GRIFFIN1238talking a thousand words but never gives one scrap of evidence for A God,
Some of you believe are unbelievable 😂
@@GRIFFIN1238 I did.
Well, that explains it. NOT
sounds like a skill issue to me
Atheists lack existential skepticism.
@@retsnomeikcooc On the Bishop's part, yes
The creator of all ❤
Hi. If God exists in truth, he must also exist in truthfulness. Truthfulness is honesty, so perfect honesty must make you as one with the perfect God of truth. Cheers, P.R.
Utter bullshit. Sadly, the Bishop thinks he is uttering meaningful sentences. Go figure.
😂😢😂
Alot of word salad here.
I like Terrance McKenna’s statement on god. The creator doesn’t like to be named. My interpretation of that statement is that no religion can call god “theirs”. I am what I am…
Ty for explaining this
People think this guys smart? Lol were so doomed