Booking the John Cena HEEL Turn We Never Got!
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2022
- John Cena is one of the few WWE stars that has never turned heel after becoming the face of the company, Hogan, Rock and even Austin all had heel turns, but for some reason John Cena never did what so many people hoped he would. He never became the bad guy.. but today I go back to 2013 and try to think of a way to do the John Cena heel turn and actually make it work. Lets check it out!
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John Cena wanted to lose that tlc match to edge btw that’s why he looked like Jay z when Nas dissed him with ether at the end of the match.
Omg I didn’t realize u would upload btw u r one of the best wrestling CZcamsrs
Face John Cena: You Can’t See Me
Heel John Cena: You Can’t Be Me
Hold up you cooking
Elite heel catch praise for cena
Then we need the old theme song to
Face John Cena: Never Give Up
Heel John Cena: Just Give up
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The only time we got John Cena as a heel was 2006 going against ECW around One Night Stand 2006. One of the greatest periods in wrestling history
He still was acting like a Baby face so not really but he wasn’t a fan Favorite but he wasn’t a hell on that show
@@itsbinks_btk9521 watch it. He was acting as a pure heel punching the ref and beating RVD around, taunting the crowd etc…
@@stevelowe2647 I believe he means that at the time that was the only time we got since he turned face
@@stevelowe2647 he said one of and it was
He turned heel in 2002-2003
The controversy around John Cena alone is what makes his career legendary. Mans really said I wanna be face and that is that.
He’s had a heel run in wwe
@@dylancrimmins3210 👀 when?
@@michaelthomas1087 dr of thuganomics gimmick
@@jamesb8619 ahhhhhh
No the foreign market and make a wish foundation is why he stayed a face. He did turn heel in 2002. The people who hate him are a small group. Mostly American fans and some European fans. The rest of the fan base worldwide loves the guy. Most of the foreign market fans are traditional in the sense that they cheer the face and boo the heel no matter who or what. Heel merch only moves major units in America and some European markets. Cena goes heel they lose a fuckload of money. On top of that, they don't have a bigger star to replace him.
Bro coined the nickname "Final Boss" a year in advance 🔥
Worst part is he was all for a heel turn in 2012 but he told Vince there’s no going back and it was scrapped
Damn. The heel turn we never got again. Imagine if they pushed through with the heel turn of Cena during his feud with The Rock. They should turn Cena heel as we all know that the big names turned heel at one point to make their characters fresh and less stale. But booking wise, it should make sense. We know how the E books things then change it up last minute.
I dead ass thought he was going to turn after their match at Wrestlemania 28 (wasn't that the going rumor?), would've made their rematch at Wrestlemania 29 a shit ton more interesting than the nonsense we got.
you cant turn cena heel, how does he go from cheating and rule bending, back to preaching hustle loyalty and respect? Or at least this version of heel cena would kill cena mainstream popularity in the long run.
@@kenbeentrill Cena said if he actually turned heel, he would stay a heel and be dangerous.
@@shortyg1018he could’ve beaten the rock and we’d be like “he beat the rock but at what cost?”
@@rokaanalzeer7148 him beating the rock wouldn't make a difference on anything, the rock was part timing, and barely shows, it sets up nothing, he got his win back at 29, without the heel turn being needed, so it doesn't matter at this point
Heel Cena would be unstoppable
John cena Could have been what Randy was to the authority and Randy could have been what Roman was in 2015-16
Right. Cena is liked more behind the scenes and fans know that. Although cause Triple H was the leader of that it worked with Randy cause obviously Triple H loves him.
The should have made him the leader of the shield which lead the shield to turn on him ,it makes since cus Cena marine gimmick and the shield is similar
This is why I enjoyed Austin's heel run. It was short, experimental at best and had a lot of special moments rather than a legitimate dominant run. It's difficult to book marquee stars differently if they're so good at what they do. That's why it took so long to make a face Randy Orton work.
As per this booking, the only thing I would change is give the Authority a more prominent role, have them interfere at the WM match then have Sting return to make the save. I would've had Cena turn heel around 2016, but I don't know much about that time period to book something better than that.
Austin was always a heel that got cheered that’s why rock and Austin were so good they had no filters but fans just loved them
Yea heel Austin ruined his popularity it was sad by Austin himself that’s why he wish he never went heel
The should have made him the leader of the shield which lead the shield to turn on him ,it makes since cus Cena marine gimmick and the shield is similar
Austin turning heel actually hurt the business. Nobody was ready to hate him yet. His turn did not receive a positive reaction. They didn't hate him. They hated the booking. Even Austin himself has said if he could go back and do it over again. He would have called an audible right there in the ring flip Vince off and delivered a stunner. He had creative control in his contract so he could have done it on the spot. Vince wouldn't have fired him anyway because he was making him too much damn money.
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Oh man, the one topic we always ask and wonder given how much interesting potential it had, especially in Cena’s prime as the face of the company, during 2010-2015. It could’ve gave us lots of memorable moments that we will most likely talk about to this day. Oh well, it is what it is.
U can't see me to I can't see u
Face to heel
This heel turn sort of reminds me of Batista's heel turn of how he was salty that Cena became the face that runs the place and here Cena is salty that Bryan was on track to replace him as the top face.
Difference is Cena and Batista came in together. Cena already made his mark as a legend when it was Bryan’s time to be the guy
Bryan was never on track to replace Cena as the top guy though, that was more WWE putting the belt on Bryan to appease the crowd. Roman Reigns was always meant to be the guy who replaced John Cena
This was the hardest fantasy John Cena heel turn booking 1 ever saw..
This was honestly amazing. I appreciate the effort put into this
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The wildest part is, those graphics are from 2014, it’s insane!
@@WrestlinGifs Thought the game was 2K17 until I saw this comment
John Cena could’ve turned heel if he broke the streak, he could’ve had that go to his head and become the most obnoxious person openly burying everyone in his path until they could find some new star to put over
While I love this booking, the perfect moment to turn Cena heel was in late 2011/ early 2012, I would love a part 2 to this, how would you book heel Cena in 2012?
I feel like a good time to turn him heel was in mid 2012 when he had the briefcase. Could have made people believe he was gonna be fair. Until the time comes he attacks punk from behind(cause punk was a face by that time), puts him in the stf until he passes out then cashes in.
@@joselujano6033 no man the perfect time to turn cena heel was in 2006 when the crowd turned on him and he pretty much got booed out of the building at every single ppv that year
The should have made him the leader of the shield which lead the shield to turn on him ,it makes since cus Cena marine gimmick and the shield is similar
Nope, the perfect time was when he lost to the Rock. Have 2012 be the worst year of his life as he gets beaten by Rock, Lesnar and Punk.
And then 2013, he snaps and turns heel by cheating to break the streak against Taker at Wrestlemania.
@@Damballa_ him being leader of the shield is so terrible and hilarious, cena doesn't respect roman or dean, dean hinted at it in his promo, so why would they want to work under his wing, it was smart no one managed shield bc they got over by themselves and that is the proper way to book future talent guys, if cena got involved that faction potentially fails, cena's best chance with a heel faction was nexus
Video idea: rebooking Rey Mysterio’s 1st world title run
It went pretty bad he's better at chasing it than holding it he also has a very bad win loss record while holding
Pav does it again I swear he don’t miss when it comes to these fantasy bookings.
Cena turning heel would've been cool, but Cema staying as a face for so long just helped cement his HLR legacy.
Personally i’d book him in this way, he loses to The Rock at Mania 28, and then then he continues to lose more matches until money in the bank where Cena wins the MITB and next week he dishonourably cashes in the money in the bank on Raw in CM Punk’s match (it can be be against anyone personally i’d say Alberto Del Rio or someone else from the MITB match), when Punk is down he cashes in and gets the belt. Then i wouldn’t want like the old Thuganomics Cena no a different one with a different theme and no rap. A Darker side of Cena or something…This would be my own personal imaginary booking for his Heel run.
You come up with better content that WWE. They should definitely hire.
This would’ve been fire if it happened hopefully one day it does
man this is such a good booking video ngl this storyline is amazing
Dude you are such a great CZcamsr! You are so funny and entertaining, and relatable. I started watching wwe in 2014, and the funny thing is, the first match I saw was the streak breaking. Then i saw John cena, and he was my hero. Yes, I never saw his world title runs but I loved seeing him as us champ. I have seen him live twice: In 2015, and 2021. Thank you for your great content!
The should have made him the leader of the shield which lead the shield to turn on him ,it makes since cus Cena marine gimmick and the shield is similar
i appreciate the effort you put into these videos man you can really feel that WWE is something your passionate about.
12:48 "The Final Boss"
Pav foretold the future in a way
I love binge watching this mans channel when I'm bored
Can we all chip in to book my boy Pav a flight to Connecticut so he can explain to WWE headquarters what good booking is?
“que the fucking trumpets” I lost it there 😭😭😭 Pav really out here doing commentary like JR
I'm with you Pav, that was a perfect time for a Cena's heel turn. Awesome booking.
Him going heel woulda been good for wrestling but bad for merch
That back in blood beat going crazy with this
You're booking is low-key awesome and i can't to see how you book Cena's heel turn
Fun fact John Cena has won 1,072 matches in his career
1743 wins out of 2198 matches
@@JohnSmith-wh2ob legendary
@@Dub257 ain't that legendary when he's literally scripted to win all those lol
@@youngbricksyg266 doesn’t matter, still legendary
This would be a great heel turn.
7:05 “the fucking John cena music” shit had me dead 😂
Part 2! This was so well made. Good job, man 👍
We didn't get the heel turn, but it's never too late. At this point in his career it's absolutely possible, he needs to reinvent himself before retiring.
He really doesn’t have a reason to anymore as much as I would like for him to turn heel. He’s part time, and hardly wrestles anymore and gets a standing ovation every time he does and is well too respected now. If this was back in 2013 in his prime when he was still getting booed occasionally then I would agree.
It's a good day when Pav uploads
Bro if Cena went heel. He wouldve been unbeatable. That golden shovel would turn to platinum.
Somehow, I just realized that Cena's model in 2K15 would be perfect for his heel persona. There's something about that angry face that scream bad guy for me.
The moment you hear “it’s your boy Pav aka WrestlinGifs”, yk the vids ab to crazy 🔥
Face Cena: Never give up
Heel Cena: Just give up
This sounds so good, if this did happen in real life it would have been great and it revisited many feuds that now had roles switched and Bryan winning is even bigger in this run than real life and Sting returning to take out Cena make a lot of sense, you did a great job booking a Cena heel run which is hard to do because thinking of something that would work isn't easy
I do agree if we were going to get a heel turn for Cena it would have been perfect around the Yes Movement but the moment we did get was great with Bryan defying the odds against Triple H, Batista and Orton all in the same night. I think it’s fine we didn’t get a prime cena heel, he got a chance to be a heel early in his career and wanted to then be a face and a hero and not turn his back to that which I say all respect to him for that
Another fire booking video. Pav is unstoppable
WrestleMania 28 was the perfect timing for Cena to turn heel
I think this heel turn would've been the best wwe progamming of the 2010's 😂😂😂😂😂 this actually gave me a laugh
I think you did well with the booking until you got to the heel Cena part. I think having a more delusional Cena that thinks he’s done the right thing would work better. He lost his title and he believes he deserves it back. Over time, thanks to the backing of the Authority and the audience getting to him, he then can finally make himself a full heel in time for the Wrestlemania program. Good stuff though bud
I would've book Heel Cena around 2018ish and form a faction with Orton, Miz and maybe bring back Batista and he steals Charlotte as his girl and he's pretty much Drip Cena and starts acting like Ric Flair to show off his next title reign which will be over Flair's
WWE is not the same without cena
- said no one ever
@@bigmarc252_7 I mean he’s a legend and it’s better with him than without
@@bigmarc252_7 dumb comment
@@swanton47 🤣 now all of a sudden people miss Cena
@@bigmarc252_7 bruh people miss cena every time he’s gone lmao especially when he came back to face reigns, saw that match live everyone loved cena
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Bro I get so hyped when you upload I already know this will be a banger
WWE needs to hire you mate, this is way too good.
Heel John Cena would carry the WWE for another 20 years.
I believe if john cena was to return and turn heel today stilll it would absolutely shake the wrestling community hell it would break the internet 😅
it wouldn't work if they book him incorrectly, I can see it fail in a way, its not as simple as just seeing cena be mean or do bad things, you see him do that always and cut the same promos all while being solo he could get sort of stale
Really interesting way to go about it!
Maybe the Wrestlemania card looks something like this
Cena V Bryan for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Bray V Taker
(Have Bray end the streak)
HHH V Batista/Randy
(since Batista has always wanted that match, plus takes place 5 years earlier with both still able to go, or have Randy V HHH since he got kicked out the authority)
Brock V Randy/Batista
(Depending on who HHH faces other can face Brock. Randy V Brock would be appropriate for WM especially since they wouldn’t have faced before and I’m sure everyone would love a Batista V Brock match)
Fiend should have beaten undertaker for the streak not Bray who one year ago got buried by cena at wm30
The streak should’ve never ended in my opinion but otherwise bray vs taker would be a good match here but have Taker win
@@redbullbrown9 yeah I agree with Taker winning but since the streak did end at WM30 would have been better if Bray did it
@@chandrabhanukandiath3012 I think he's talking about WM30, Bray was still on point, but actually I agree though; Undertaker should've been undefeated all the way up until about the time we got The Fiend.
The primetime for Cena to turn heel would of been post Mania 28 after losing to The Rock. Here's my booking:
After losing at Mania 28 and losing to Brock Lesnar at Extreme Rules and losing every match on RAW, Cena somehow wins a #1 contendership to face CM Punk at Over the Limit 2012 in an I Quit match. Of course Cena recognizes his losing streak and the usual polarizing fanfare he recieves, and the crowd obviously likes CM Punk more. Their first promo encounter involves CM Punk mentioning "I'm 2-0 against you on PPV so far" and "come on do your usual rise above hate crap you always say and let the fans boo you even more!", and surprisingly Cena says no words and just leaves the ring. In the weeks following Cena refuses interviews and you just get a shot of his locker room door closed. Then when it's time for the match I think having Cena actually say I Quit would shock everyone but immediately after the match when CM Punk turns his back to celebrate John Cena absolutely goes ballistic on him, completely obliterates him with steel chairs, kendo sticks, chokes him with a chain, and puts him through the announce table. As CM Punk is being carried out on a stretcher John Cena then addresses the bewildered crowd, "yeah I said I Quit....but it was on my terms, I didn't quit on myself, I quit on all of you, for so long I've tried to live up to your expectations....now everyone is living in my world now.....fear my name...." and then the show fades to black. At the following PPV Cena once again faces CM Punk and very decisively defeats CM Punk. The following months would be similar to Triple H's heel reign of terror. And by Mania 29 a babyface would be primed and ready to dethrone heel Cena.
it's funny cuz that fear my name phrase was actually trademarked by WWE back in 2012 and he even had a new heel theme but Vince got cold feet about a Cena heel turn.
An even more shocking heel turn would of been Cena cheating to beat the Undertaker's streak at Mania 29 or 30.
I definitely think it wouldve been a perfect for him to turn heel against the rock at WM28. Then after he gets clapped, we get the lesnar return and Cena getting clapped again at Extreme Rules.
huh?
You said daniel Vs The final boss
After one year we got ( the new daniel " Cody " ) vs ( the new final boss " rock " )
It didn’t happen because they didn’t want the same mistake they made when stone cold went heel
This is different, but fantasy booking wise I would have DBryan, Miz, & Cena forming nWo2.0 in TNA (2015)
This was an awesome booking. Sting's debut was a 🔥🔥🔥🔥 plot twist.
This is gonna be freaking awesome!
John Cena does a lot of charities and needs to be a hero especially for children
That's why FANTASY booking is a thing, bruv...
My mouth would’ve dropped if that would’ve happened
My Cena heel turn headcanon would have been a Homelander type character. He sees Bryan getting beaten up and he comes back from injury and destroys Bryan to get the title back, because he thinks he's the only good guy who's not gonna get screwed by the Authority. A bad guy thinking he's good...
I wanted a gangster heel cena again
I never been so early!! I love this channel and heel Cena will be another amazing sight
Imagine if he comes back a heel this year
That'll be cool but its long overdue imo
@@dubbyu4286 better now than never
This is amazingly booked!
This will be a good one I like these booking stuff
That Back in Blood beat in the begining 👍
Honestly the unused opportunity for Cena would’ve been to bringing back the authority at some point after survivor series 2014.
I can tell this video is goated and I haven’t even watched it yet 🔥🔥
If only cena would sign with aew as heel , that would be awesome cause it will be like he has really turned his back on the company who made him ... Even though wwe is bigger then aew , i think it would be much impactful that way . I can see it as big as Hogan turning his back and reforming the NWO ...
Him turning to aew and cutting a promo saying that wwe has changed and is a sinking ship would make wwe make cool storylines just like the past
Best Cena heel turn for me would be "Cena vs The Streak" at WrestleMania and after multiple F5's there's a low blow and a few chair shots with an unconscious referee.
Solid booking. But the blow off match should be in mania 31
I think a good way to turn him heel was to have him be the authoritys golden boy.
your my favorite youtuber i watched you during hard times and it made happy bro
Another bangin' video by Pav!
For my John Cena Heel Turn storyline here's my Fantasy Booking We Begin at WrestleMania 28 The Rock defeats John Cena then the night after Brock Lesnar makes his return to WWE and Attacks Cena then they have there match at Extreme Rules but Lesnar wins and Cena is taken out by and ambulance for weeks then they announced the Men's money in the bank match with same competitors in 2012 and Cena goes on and wins the MITB briefcase then we go to the 1000 episode of RAW the Main Event Is John Cena Vs CM Punk big show come out and cost Cena the title then Cena is stunned and furious while big show attack CM Punk the Rock Comes out and Goes to attack big show then when rock goes for the people's elbow John Cena runs back into the ring and attacks the rock and then Rock get carried out the arena so Cena goes through the entire WWE fueding with Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, Christian, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, and The Rock, then, At The Royal Rumble We get John Cena Vs The Rock 2 winner gets a shot at the WWE Champion and Cena wins in dominant fashion and goes on to the Main Event of WrestleMania 29 Dethroning CM Punk for The WWE Championship and goes on to hold the WWE Title fueding with RVD, Christian, Undertaker, Orton, CM Punk, and Cody Rhodes until WrestleMania 30 losing the Title To Daniel Bryan in a 30 min classic
Great video Pav! Love it
Come to think of it back in blood instrumental is the perfect theme for Cena as a heel
Love the fantasy booking videos
In my opinion, Cena staying as a face is what gives him his charm, it’s what makes him great, it’s what feels natural for him
Cena should have turned heel in the Road to Wrestlemania 28. Heel Cena vs Face Rock Once in a Lifetime
There are many things I don’t like about this being honest. Including the fact that the real life main event of wm is better. However I think you did capture cena as a heel pretty well. I do expect his heel turn to be more bigger, rather than just doing an fu and pinning him. Pretty sure he does that commonly as a face since he’s cena. I think him as a heel would work in this case, some heels have a problem with that as people have a problem choosing which side their on, wether they cheer for them cause they like their work, or boo them cause that’s what their supporters to do, or just boo them cause the wrestler sucks and fans hate them. I think with this heel turn it would work well and it definitely would capture what a heel should be. Mainly cause he’s cena though, and it works because of who he is, but that is apart of his character.
Ay that sting twist at the end. 👌🏿
Quality booking, i would watch.
I haven't watched wwe sence 2011 and the only thing that kept me watching that long was the possibility of a john cena heel turn its funny looking back at how everyone was tired of him but when he's not there anymore then they dont have anyone to hate.
I think John Cena turning heel would’ve been perfect during his run with the Nexus but WWE blew it
He was going against them, why would he turn heel?
@@Dub257 cause he lost a match against Wade Barrett and became a member but then betrayed them when he attacked Michael Tarver
@@Romanj28 The Nexus weren’t really believable as a face though. They still outnumbered Cena by a lot and he was just one guy that turned his back on them.
@@terryprice1691 what if Cena turned Heel and became the Leader of the Shield back then?
@@Romanj28 keep cena away from the shield
Not just did John Cena turn heel in this video, Pav did too. Who wouldve ever thought Pav would play 2K15 again after that one video with this must hatred lol.
I like how you do custom visuals fr the game for what ifs its better than other CZcamsrs
i remember back in 2012 thinking he was going to turn heel anyday and still 10 years later it never happened, feels like only yesterday the big anticipation everyone feeling like it was coming
Embrace the hate
2012 was the perfect time to turn him heel
pavs passion for jc is unreal.
Pav back with another banger
Missed this man ong
This was great. You can also book the Evolution triple threat match at WM 30 too!