Most Underrated Skill Of Each GOAT

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  • An explanation of the most underrated trait of each GOAT candidate.
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  • @jonnyarnett
    @jonnyarnett  Před 11 měsíci +70

    What's an underrated skill of a Superstar player?

  • @kaiserrino8774
    @kaiserrino8774 Před 11 měsíci +459

    Everybody mentions the 50 average or the 100 point game. But Wilts 48.5 minutes per game in Chuck Taylor's is the most underrated accomplishment imo.

    • @zbxlt292
      @zbxlt292 Před 11 měsíci +42

      Fr bros feet had to be curling up like a rollie pollie after every game

    • @doginaboat3756
      @doginaboat3756 Před 11 měsíci +23

      exactly what I would have picked too, his stamina is so alien and legendary and totally unable to replicate, it's what makes him the #1 for me

    • @keithjoseph128
      @keithjoseph128 Před 11 měsíci +13

      Those shoes actually made feet stronger. That's why they have Wemby working out barefoot.

    • @phillykid512
      @phillykid512 Před 11 měsíci

      You left out, him smashing 10 chicks a night and still having the stamina to play all game long

    • @joejett5084
      @joejett5084 Před 11 měsíci +28

      …and never fouled out

  • @chocamocha4541
    @chocamocha4541 Před 11 měsíci +582

    MJ's Playmaking is so overlooked

    • @jahbrilplaysgamesandstuff326
      @jahbrilplaysgamesandstuff326 Před 11 měsíci +46

      Cause its usually compared with lebrons never appreciated

    • @Matthew-xl5bc
      @Matthew-xl5bc Před 11 měsíci +74

      People who know ball recognize MJ is one of the greatest playmakers ever.

    • @chrilpy
      @chrilpy Před 11 měsíci +66

      A lot of people think that demanding the ball in the clutch makes you a ballhog, but it’s exactly what your best scorers are supposed to do

    • @T.H.E.O.R.Y.
      @T.H.E.O.R.Y. Před 11 měsíci +47

      Superrrrr. The 91 NBA Finals he out assisted none other than *Earvin Magic Johnson.*
      Sadly, Jonny overlooked that concerning Jordan's overlooked skill in this video.
      It's even worse when you consider that Jordan's defense is seldom if ever overlooked in the context of his game, as opposed to the non-bucket parts of the offensive side of his game.
      In light of his earlier rap of being considered as a ball hog or non-winner due to his lack of passing, for him to average over 5 assists for his career -compared to Bron's 7 - is criminal.

    • @madisonbordenave4869
      @madisonbordenave4869 Před 11 měsíci +16

      Was about to comment this. Prime MJ is a top 3 playmaker amongst the goat candidates. People conflate playmaking and passing and thinks he lags behind because he wasn’t on their level as a passer, but as a playmaker he’s one of the best. Still a very good to great passer tho

  • @centerofstar
    @centerofstar Před 11 měsíci +29

    Before Johnny release part 2, here are my thoughts of other legend's underrated skill
    Kobe Bryant- Playmaking
    Tim Duncan- Athleticism in his prime years
    Shaq- Passing
    Hakeem- Stealing and perimeter Defence
    Steph Curry- Scoring inside the arc

    • @xtrasolido
      @xtrasolido Před 11 měsíci +1

      Duuuude, you called it!

    • @centerofstar
      @centerofstar Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@xtrasolido Yeah, I'm kinda surprise by that

  • @michaelnoel9998
    @michaelnoel9998 Před 11 měsíci +103

    I think John Stockton's defense is criminally underrated. Everyone talks about his assist totals which are astounding and he is so ridiculously above second place. But he is also the career leader in steals and that isn't close either.

    • @phillipcummings3518
      @phillipcummings3518 Před 11 měsíci +9

      I think it's because the best players in that era also played great defense.

    • @jetsfan2theMAX
      @jetsfan2theMAX Před 11 měsíci +3

      Stockton is all around underrated. would’ve been the goat if it weren’t for mike

    • @jooyichen
      @jooyichen Před 11 měsíci +7

      Basically, everyone in the 90's is underrated ( except MJ ). Well, that's because that era was dominated by MJ and his Bulls.
      Some would even call it a weak era. It's a chicken-and-egg problem when it comes to Lebron vs MJ.
      It's a better competition because everyone got an award over Lebron. Its a weak era because MJ got an award over everybody around him.

    • @notimportant3686
      @notimportant3686 Před 11 měsíci

      @@jooyichen there is no problem with lebron-mj, no sane person takes a weak minded baller over a killer

    • @thescarfguy
      @thescarfguy Před 11 měsíci +4

      ​@@notimportant3686I have MJ over Lebron, but don't insult LBJ. This video literally just went over how clutch lebron is.

  • @etcheverrypanpi2753
    @etcheverrypanpi2753 Před 11 měsíci +99

    For stephen curry, i think its his amazing ability to score in the paint. For Jordan it could be playmaking ability too besides of blocking shots..For Kobe, i cant wait your analysis

    • @kriswillman2779
      @kriswillman2779 Před 11 měsíci +12

      Its gotta be defense for Kobe given it's rarely discussed or perhaps his passing skills

    • @akeme25
      @akeme25 Před 11 měsíci +12

      For Kobe it’s definitely his passing skills

    • @codyeble6764
      @codyeble6764 Před 11 měsíci +5

      I think it'll be his passing, his defense is pretty well known.. but I remember he played my Cavs in the twilight of his career and had like 19 assists, literally picked us apart.. Cavs still won but he made it much closer than it was supposed to be with his passing

    • @zesevic5322
      @zesevic5322 Před 11 měsíci

      For me Curry was passing, i love Curry passing ability more than his 3pts shoot

    • @johncambridge7181
      @johncambridge7181 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Curry’s stamina is underrated too. In his mid 30s he always runs off the ball non stop

  • @ralph.aguinaldomd
    @ralph.aguinaldomd Před 11 měsíci +65

    MJ's shot blocking is part of the reason why he won DPOY and has nine 1st team all defense. People forget how good a playmaker he could be especially when he played point guard.

    • @Zett76
      @Zett76 Před 11 měsíci +4

      He was a great stealer, too.

    • @patjenkins1308
      @patjenkins1308 Před 11 měsíci +3

      10 triple doubles in 11 games at one point

    • @edowino
      @edowino Před 11 měsíci

      It is underrated in comparison to other greats, MJ had over 100 blocks per season twice in his career, Bron has never had a single season with over 100 blocks

    • @jaylenflanagan1295
      @jaylenflanagan1295 Před 11 měsíci

      @@edowinoYu want a 🍪?

    • @Zett76
      @Zett76 Před 11 měsíci

      @@IsayahH-xm7ql Religion is like a dick.
      It‘s a very fine thing, but nobody wants you to shove it other people's throats, without being asked.
      By the way: Rabbi Jeshua is dead.

  • @alex4833
    @alex4833 Před 11 měsíci +22

    Bil Russell's leaping ability is amazing. I've seen that video of him leaping over the defender before, but am in awe each time I see it.
    Awesome video, Jonny. I'd say that Jordan and Wade are two of the top shot blocking guards of all time.
    Hope you have a great week!

  • @jp3813
    @jp3813 Před 11 měsíci +55

    I remember watching an episode of "Open Court", and on the subject of some of the best ball handlers, I think it was Reggie Miller who brought up Magic. Yet he got dismissed by the rest of the panel. Which is crazy to me especially since I also recall seeing a video highlight of Magic constantly dribbling coast-to-coast against the Sixers and Barkley was visibly upset that they couldn't stop him.

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 Před 11 měsíci +10

      Whilst his handles are underrated, he isn’t in the convo of best handle ever

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 Před 11 měsíci +13

      @@hardwoodthought1213 That's why he's underrated. Likely b/c most people think of handles as crossovers from half court. Magic's are about going coast-to-coast, between-the-legs, behind-the-back, spinning, shakin' & bakin' (his own words), etc...

    • @truthiscensored
      @truthiscensored Před 11 měsíci +6

      It is because people (novice) considering ball handling as doing million crossovers and behind the back dribbles, when ball handling is simply protecting the ball

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@truthiscensored More than protection, it's also about creating offense. Hence, "showtime".

    • @pigs6486
      @pigs6486 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Magic's ball handling combined with his size is truly all-time. If we want to talk about small guys with quicker handles, then Isaiah has anybody today covered.

  • @bowmanencore
    @bowmanencore Před 11 měsíci +39

    Great idea for a video. Incredible that Russell stood a real chance of winning gold at the Olympics but focused on basketball instead.

    • @catherinelynnfraser2001
      @catherinelynnfraser2001 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Bill was an astonishing athlete

    • @savastevanovic
      @savastevanovic Před 11 měsíci +8

      He did win gold in those same Olympics, in basketball of course.

    • @ernesthader1109
      @ernesthader1109 Před 11 měsíci

      Nowadays we only have athletic basketball players. Back then, Bill Russell is a true blue athlete playing basketball. Aside from high jump, he's also run the 400yrds.

    • @aviecenna8579
      @aviecenna8579 Před 11 měsíci

      Russell's passing is also overlooked. He was in the top 5 of the league twice, without dominating the ball the way Wilt did

  • @ltrigga219
    @ltrigga219 Před 11 měsíci +46

    Crazy good stats on this one. I knew Larry was a mean defender, but I forgot he almost won DPOY. And Russell being an Olympic champion-level high jumper is still mind-bending.

  • @semaj1077
    @semaj1077 Před 11 měsíci +9

    This channel is dope and should reach 1M subscribers in a month. He comes up with unique and fascinating topics instead of just comparing MJ to LBJ 7 days a week.
    Keep it up brother

  • @thebxsavage
    @thebxsavage Před 11 měsíci +17

    @jonnyarnett I think Wilt Chamberlain is now the most underrated basketball player ever. People would rather undermine and discount the entire league during that time rather than give this man credit for what he accomplished

    • @thebxsavage
      @thebxsavage Před 11 měsíci

      @@slywerk5070 If a team gets the #1 pick in the NBA Draft, the team is usually (always) very bad. Almost ALL HIGHLY DRAFTED rookies and young players "play for some crappy teams to start their career".
      Unless you are Tim Duncan and come in at the same time a HOF Center is coming off injury... or you get drafted to a team that recently traded for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.... your early career teams aren't going to be world beaters.
      That's a silly thing to hold against someone...
      Jordan/LeBron were also on some crappy teams at the start of their career. It comes with the territory of going to a team with the #1/#3 pick.
      Furthermore, I didn't call him "The greatest" I called him The MOST UNDERRATED...
      You seem eager to bash this man.. you're arguing points I never made... seems like you're one of those guys I mentioned that goes out of their way to undermine him.

    • @thebxsavage
      @thebxsavage Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@slywerk5070 Celtics had a MINIMUM of 6 and a maximum of 9 HOFers on the roster for every single year of the dynasty.
      Saying Wilt "only" overcame Bill once is a sick narrative to spin. It wasn't just "Bill"... The fact that Wilt interrupted an 8-PEAT to break up what would have been 11 STRAIGHT CHAMPIONSHIPS by that team (that stayed to gather every year because of no free agency) was astounding in and of itself.
      If you can name me the 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 HOFers that Wilt had on his side to go to war with when he was facing those Celtics then we can start to have a legitimate discussion... but they don't exist...

    • @thebxsavage
      @thebxsavage Před 11 měsíci

      @@slywerk5070 no idea why you’re talking about Skip, never mentioned him. I am a fan, because he’s a great underrated player, nothing wrong with that.
      Once again, you can say what you want, but please name the 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 HOFers that Wilt played with when he went up against the MINIMUM 6 HOFers on the Celts every year. The facts are the facts and they are pretty clear. Basketball is a TEAM sport and no one man beats a GREAT team.
      That’s a SILLY thing to hold against an INDIVIDUAL

    • @antipro4483
      @antipro4483 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@thebxsavageon the warriors: Al Attles, Guy Rodgers, Tom Gola, Nate Thurmond and Paul Arizin (all HoF)
      On the 76ers:
      Larry Costello, Hal Greer, Billy Cunningham, Chet Walker
      (Bill Melchionni, Red Kerr (not HoF but 3 time all star))
      On the Lakers: Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Gail Goodrich and more all star roleplayers

    • @cobra7282
      @cobra7282 Před 3 měsíci

      Easy modern comparison that shows how good Wilt was is Dwight Howard. Wilt was bigger, stronger and at least as athletic as Dwight while also having a bigger array of basketball skills IMO. Safe to say that if he was playing at the same time he would have been the better player and Dwight in his prime was winning DPOYs and coming close to winning MVPs.

  • @michaelthreepeat
    @michaelthreepeat Před 11 měsíci +5

    I read Bill Russel 70's autobiography and there is actually a moment in which he recalls jumping and looking inside the rim, from above, Gerrald Green style. So much for plumbers and firemen.

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. Před 11 měsíci

      To be fair, when people say “plumbers”, they generally mean the average player

    • @phillipcummings3518
      @phillipcummings3518 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Jonathan-A.C. not from what I've seen

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. Před 11 měsíci

      @@phillipcummings3518
      It’s rare to see people saying Bill Russell was a plumber, although saying he *played* against plumbers is said sometimes

    • @michaelthreepeat
      @michaelthreepeat Před 11 měsíci

      @@Jonathan-A.C. Yes I get your point but it's false nonetheless

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. Před 11 měsíci

      @@michaelthreepeat
      I don’t see how my point is false, but maybe you I are seeing different people’s opinions. From what what I’ve seen, people don’t call Bill Russell a plumber all to often, but they do call the era of players that fairly often

  • @bigpharmasports9120
    @bigpharmasports9120 Před 11 měsíci +20

    I was thinking jordan's ball control, palming ability. It really made him a magician with how he handled the ball, often times confounding defenders without even dribbling once.

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Well his hands were catcher's mitts. I think the width of his hands were like 11.5" or something ridiculous.

  • @_M....
    @_M.... Před 11 měsíci +4

    MJ was an underated rebounder as a perimeter player, especially offensive boards. another underrated aspect of MJ was his durability. he is the only one of these all time greats to play all 82 games 9 times in a career. also, in his 6 title seasons only issed 6 total games(?).

  • @thetruthstand
    @thetruthstand Před 11 měsíci +17

    I still remember Larry Bird stealing Isiah Thomas inbound pass in the playoffs. He swooped in quickly. He came out of nowhere.

    • @kevinhouse4376
      @kevinhouse4376 Před 10 měsíci

      Bird's steal of that pass was the best defensive play I've ever seen.

  • @beminem
    @beminem Před 11 měsíci +6

    God bless this man for posting while I'm at my boring office job

  • @MindfulAttraction2.0
    @MindfulAttraction2.0 Před 11 měsíci +8

    People don't understand that Wilt chamberlain legit had a finesse fadeaway.

    • @laz0rama
      @laz0rama Před 11 měsíci +1

      yep. and usually a banker at that.

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Před 11 měsíci +1

      He and others always testify to the fact that Wilt was a finesse player, having a bag of moves rather than muscling his way through.

    • @phillipschuman4307
      @phillipschuman4307 Před 11 měsíci

      One of his contemporaries said he scored more than half his points on fadeaway jumpers.

  • @kannon1610
    @kannon1610 Před 11 měsíci +3

    My top underrated aspect of each GOAT other than what you mentioned:
    Jordan's playmaking. Jordan was so successful as a player because he could lift the floor of any team by creating scoring opportunities for his teammates when he'd collapse defenses or draw double teams. His airtime also helped him do a lot of audibles in the middle of shots and leaps at the basket.
    Bird: Also passing for me. He was an elite outlet passer and a super crafty, clever playmaker. Him and Magic are so often compared, with Magic obviously being considered the better passer, but Bird was no slouch in that aspect either.
    Magic: Outside scoring. Of course he was no super sniper from 3, but he was certainly a reliable mid to long range 2 and 3 ball threat relative to his era. It added yet another dimension to his game that made him so lethal.
    Wilt: I think adaptability in the latter half of his career to a new play style has to be the biggest underlooked aspect of Wilt. Everyone likes to look at those crazy scoring seasons but Wilt was able to become a successful team player and downshift his ball dominance when it became clear that it was a more reliable path to championships. It's impressive that he could rebuild his style like that.
    Bill Russell: Clutch gene. He not only was 7-0 in game 7s in his NBA career, he was 21-0 in winner take all games between his NCAA and NBA careers. His drive to win was so great he would puke his guts out before big games at the very idea of losing. So you can imagine what kind of need to win was driving those 21 victories.
    Kareem: i actually cant think of anything. I dont even really agree that his shot blocking is underrated.
    Lebron: Playmaking and basketball IQ. He is mischaracterized when people call him pass first, but like Jordan he exerts such a magnetic force over the court with his scoring pressure and has such an insanely high basketball IQ that he is able to find extremely good dimes all game every game. He doesnt focus on it as much as Magic but also doesn't need to for the team comps he has had.

  • @jamiekelley4076
    @jamiekelley4076 Před 11 měsíci +26

    Love this list.
    I would add Michael Jordan's Offensive Rebounding. He has to be one of the all time greatest offensive rebounding guards.

  • @Posesso
    @Posesso Před 11 měsíci +7

    Shaq, the calm when being fouled. Indescribable and the contrast with the energy during the game... gold

  • @gavincampbell7488
    @gavincampbell7488 Před 11 měsíci +16

    Thanks for making such a thought-provoking video. Most forget just how good ALL of these players are/were.

  • @damboulton
    @damboulton Před 11 měsíci +39

    This is truly brilliant! Great video idea and perfectly executed, can’t wait for part 2

    • @montybrooks5344
      @montybrooks5344 Před 11 měsíci

      Wilson sy did it first

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 Před 11 měsíci

      *except that LeChoke is still a choker
      still under .500 at the highest stage

  • @DtrJr
    @DtrJr Před 11 měsíci +20

    damn what a banger of an idea. keep up the great stuff man but make sure to always take enough time for yourself

  • @eddieG667
    @eddieG667 Před 11 měsíci +5

    People don’t realize how big Kareem’s presence was even late in his career. As a Laker fan, the change in help defense when Mychal Thompson or Macadoo came in was very evident as they couldn’t alter shots at the rim like Cap did.
    Game 6 in the 1987 finals had Kareem playing like a 20 year old

  • @lowkey614
    @lowkey614 Před 11 měsíci +19

    I would actually say that Larry's Bird most underrated skill is passing, he averaged 6.3 assists for his career, Lebron James avarage is 7.3 and he is considered a great passer. so his passing is heavy underrated

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 11 měsíci +26

      The only reason I personally wouldn't say passing, is because I don't see anyone acting like Bird was a bad passer... but I do see people acting like he was a bad defender

    • @Flat_top_king12
      @Flat_top_king12 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Passing skill isn't just racking up assists

    • @iamdebaby8152
      @iamdebaby8152 Před 11 měsíci

      Judging passing ability off AST averages what a causal 😂 in 2021-22 kd averaged more AST than lebron using your logic kd is not only on the same level as lebron but better.😂

    • @jubjubhenry5612
      @jubjubhenry5612 Před 11 měsíci +7

      @@Flat_top_king12Pretty much especially considering how ball dominant LeBron is compared to Larry it looks even worse. Just based on skill level of passing Larry is a bit more skilled than LeBron and I think the playstyle Larry fostered was a better type than Bron who slows play down so badly esp later in his career it’s hard to watch if you care about these things. Larry was off ball dominant and worked the baseline so so well the angles he attacked from were just different than Bron who always has to face the basket from the top somewhere.

    • @truthiscensored
      @truthiscensored Před 11 měsíci +4

      When Bird played, Him and Magic was considered the 2 best passers in the game. So that part was definitely not overrated.

  • @cornoffthecob1018
    @cornoffthecob1018 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Thanks Jonny for cranking out such high quality content 🙏🏼. Keep up the grind

  • @Lolander14
    @Lolander14 Před 11 měsíci +4

    For Russell, I'd also argue that his passing/playmaking was underrated too. He averaged 4.1 assists per game for his career, and he frequently handled the ball to initiate the vaunted Celtic fast break for Auerbach's squads.
    If he played in today's era, he would definitely be a team's secondary ball handler, and he would've had more chances to run a half-court offense than in his day.

  • @semaj1077
    @semaj1077 Před 11 měsíci +3

    This is an underrated channel. Thanks for making bball stats/history fun again!

  • @przec13r28
    @przec13r28 Před 11 měsíci +10

    Hey Jonny in your Last two videos you came up with very very interesting topics! Great ideas! I love your channel

  • @OrigEntertainmentOfficial
    @OrigEntertainmentOfficial Před 11 měsíci +3

    Great video and series. Thanks for bringing up the old school players. I think they are often overlooked in general. Each generation learns from the previous generations. It's those innovations that the GOAT of each era brings to the game that elevates it. It's a bummer there isn't more footage or accurate stats from early era players like Kareem, Pistol Pete, Wilt, etc.

    • @truthiscensored
      @truthiscensored Před 11 měsíci

      Kareem probably did it more than one season, but the first 4 seasons he played, Blocks wasn't kept as a stat

  • @dbrav727
    @dbrav727 Před 11 měsíci +7

    To me MJ’s passing and play making is the most overlooked thing in his game

  • @mrho4speed
    @mrho4speed Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video and keep them coming. I had no idea about Bill Russell and the high-jumping!!

  • @Zakillah
    @Zakillah Před 11 měsíci +6

    Wilt would be all time leader in shots blocked and you know it.

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 11 měsíci +4

      Probably. You're right, if we retroactively include all of Kareem's blocks, then Wilt's should count as well. Still worth noticing Kareem though

    • @jlui21
      @jlui21 Před 11 měsíci

      -- but Wilt played against Mario and Luigi, Italian plumbers that were the brain child of a Japanese genius. Plus, the only hops they had is when they were on shrooms so...yes, Wilt would have set the blocks' record.

  • @vernonleewarren280
    @vernonleewarren280 Před 11 měsíci +11

    Wilt or Russell would of by far have the most blocks in NBA history. Not Jabbar. Unfortunately they werent tracking blocks until after both of those all-time great players retired

  • @twizzy585ful
    @twizzy585ful Před 11 měsíci +2

    Great videos where all the greats get their credit with no hate...well done as usual 💯🙌🏿

  • @McGomezAddams
    @McGomezAddams Před 11 měsíci +2

    Your content has been on another level

  • @catherinelynnfraser2001
    @catherinelynnfraser2001 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I love this. We always get blinkered by recency bias. It’s always a good time to get a better look at the legends.

  • @73Trident
    @73Trident Před 11 měsíci +2

    Russell's scoring is the most underrated part of his game. 15000 pts almost 15 ppg and never had a play called for him. I think that is outstanding. When was the last time some one not named Bill Russell have a 30 pt and 40 rebound game in the Finals. I'm waiting.

  • @choward5430
    @choward5430 Před 11 měsíci +12

    Thank you! Two things really stand out for me: 1. Jordan blocked more shots than LeBron playing outside mostly and LeBron James is 6'9". 2. Bill Russell's leaping ability (and speed). I knew this but I didn't know the specific details. NO ONE IN THE NBA TODAY CAN HIGH JUMP 6'9".

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Před 11 měsíci +3

      LeBron was never a big blocker, yet averaged about a block a game during his prime. That's pretty good to me. And also, no NBA player is doing the high jump, because it's an Olympic event lol.

    • @ernesthader1109
      @ernesthader1109 Před 11 měsíci

      @@a-a-rondavis9438 , of course any nba player can compete as long as he qualifies. He just has to choose whether he would play for high jump or basketball. Russell chose basketball back then. He's still 7th overall worldwide despite not participating in the olympics.

    • @phillipschuman4307
      @phillipschuman4307 Před 11 měsíci

      I think most of the players with high 30s to 40+ inch verticals could high jump like that, with training. Also, the modern style (Fosbury flop) makes it easier to get higher with less technique. You don't have to worry about the trailing leg fouling the bar like in the straddle version Russell (and Wilt too!) had to use. Once your hips clear the bar, that's a wrap.

    • @coreythomas3633
      @coreythomas3633 Před 11 měsíci

      Mj not a BETTER DEFENDER OR SHOT BLOCKER

  • @asiatic1979
    @asiatic1979 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This absolutely has to be hands-down, the best channel on basketball!

  • @clarissawestbrook2203
    @clarissawestbrook2203 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This was a good list and breakdown. I hope your channel continues to grow and prosper. ❤❤❤❤

  • @ericrodas9831
    @ericrodas9831 Před 11 měsíci +4

    As a shooting guard, the Iceman’s shot blocking was a little underrated. His best season had him get 138 but it was in the ABA. He also has more career total blocked shots than Jordan at 1047 vs 893.

  • @beenizz5102
    @beenizz5102 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Best video yet. Absolutely incredible respect and spot on information. Number 1 thing that I feel needs to be done is the destruction of false narratives and revelation of actual truths contrary to popular belief especially when it comes to underrated things goats do
    I’d say Kobe’s Playmaking is hella underrated. So is his offensive rebounding

  • @dabarnes12
    @dabarnes12 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Another great video! You are the best Jdog.

  • @Garkimyer
    @Garkimyer Před 11 měsíci +1

    Tbh Wilt is kind of just underrated overall. He did literally every part of the game better than anyone else, and was intentionally holding himself back while doing it. He could have been Shaq but way stronger if he wanted to. Dude was benching 600lbs, won the high jump, shot put, triple jump, and 400m varsity sport events all 4 years he competed (while being on the basketball team) but didnt want to be known for that and didnt want to hurt the other players, which he easily could have. He was the highest scoring (in a season), rebounding, shot blocking player ever, and lead the league in assists just because he didnt want to be called selfish. I wish i could see him play today with all of todays support systems for athletes. I think he’d be more of a monster than he was then.

  • @FrancoDFernando
    @FrancoDFernando Před 11 měsíci +6

    I think it’s MJ’s explosive first step. It’s his first step that was the catalyst for all of his playmaking. I’ve never seen another player with a more explosive first step

  • @andrewcook1246
    @andrewcook1246 Před 11 měsíci +5

    People think Wilt was brute force like Shaq, but rules were different. You couldn't run people over. If Wilt was really allowed to play bully ball is numbers would go from anime to straight up cartoon-ish

  • @GaryWrightUtah
    @GaryWrightUtah Před 11 měsíci +1

    Awesome series. Here's one... when you think of John Stockton you think of his Assists because he was a pass first point guard and holds the ALL Time record for Assists. But people never mention his Steals. He holds the ALL TIME steals record. He had the quickest hands to snag that ball away from the other guy.

  • @nathanjackson7797
    @nathanjackson7797 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This was one of ur best videos yet 🙌🏾

  • @SuperNASCARrocks
    @SuperNASCARrocks Před 11 měsíci +28

    I think the most overlooked stat is that Wilt averaged 48.5 minutes per game for an entire season.

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Wilt said it himself in his book, "The View From Above (1991)", that his personal greatest accomplishment was never fouling out of a game.

    • @loydkline
      @loydkline Před 11 měsíci

      Wilt fadaway shot

    • @DG-sc1yu
      @DG-sc1yu Před 11 měsíci +1

      The most overlooked stat is Wilt is the fucking BEAST! No one better.

    • @loydkline
      @loydkline Před 11 měsíci

      @@DG-sc1yu early 1960s wilt unstoppable in low post 📫

  • @eeempy99
    @eeempy99 Před 11 měsíci +3

    and there is the difference between Magic and Steph. Magic could drop 40+ games if he needed to. Curry couldn't drop 15+ Assist games if he needed to.

  • @sportschad
    @sportschad Před 11 měsíci +1

    I think MJ's most underrated aspect of his game is his off-ball offense AND off-ball defense.
    He moves around a lot on both ends. He exerts so much energy on both ends that he look like an annoying fly on the court at times. Whenever he is on the floor there is always a threat for a steal and a block lurking around. On offense he doesn't let the offense stagnate, and keep the team offense moving and alive by moving constantly, which also makes him an offensive rebounding threat. He exerts so much energy on both ends, that he could have probably played 5 more seasons, if he just lowered his activity on the passing lanes, removed his off-ball game, focused less on getting second chance points, and any sort of "dirty work".

  • @Sincere529
    @Sincere529 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Excellent video as usual

  • @dshawandunwell3892
    @dshawandunwell3892 Před 11 měsíci +20

    Ok Jonny at this point im wondering if you're sleeping well, your release schedule has been insane

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 11 měsíci +19

      I'm pretty tired. lol

    • @markjackson6431
      @markjackson6431 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@jonnyarnett a video on Dream Team 2 (94 FIBA Team) please

    • @raharu.
      @raharu. Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@markjackson6431 let the man rest 💀

    • @alexhennigh5242
      @alexhennigh5242 Před 11 měsíci +3

      ​@@markjackson6431Maybe learn to read the room 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @dshawandunwell3892
      @dshawandunwell3892 Před 11 měsíci

      @@jonnyarnett take a break if you need one man, you deserve it for all these quality videos you been making

  • @rollingwins
    @rollingwins Před 11 měsíci +11

    Lebron game 6 in Boston in 2013 was definition of Clutch

    • @lucidstudious750
      @lucidstudious750 Před 11 měsíci +6

      People who say he isn't clutch, have never actually watched lebron play

    • @nicksamp515
      @nicksamp515 Před 11 měsíci

      2012*. It still baffles me even after 2016, everybody still labels him as a choker and not clutch, and then Label steph, kd, kawhi, giannis as clutch despite having less impactful and meaningful clutch moments than LeBron had his entire career. in 07 alone, him scoring every cavs' points in the 4th and overtime against the pistons should be enough to label him a clutch player.

    • @lucidstudious750
      @lucidstudious750 Před 11 měsíci

      @@nicksamp515 most people say curry isn't clutch which is already stupid imo. Saying lebron isn't clutch is a WHOLE another level of stupidity

  • @fragilisticfalconier8644
    @fragilisticfalconier8644 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Can’t wait for part 2. Tim Duncan doesn’t get talked about nearly enough (heck I could end the sentence right here) about being one of the best playmaking bigs of all time

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Před 11 měsíci

      Maybe, but his assists were low, and there were many bigs, even like Joakim Noah, that passed more frequently and had higher averages. There's probably 10 or more bigs better than Duncan on passing

  • @azurevoid47
    @azurevoid47 Před 11 měsíci

    Hearing that this is an on goin series is great can't wait for part 2

  • @Tarrot
    @Tarrot Před 11 měsíci +5

    Minor thing: Not to take away that Kareem's shot blocking would probably put him above Hakeem, but counting all blocks from before they were recorded, Wilt and Russel almost certainly would have more. From the limited number of full games of Wilt that are available, I want to say 119, most toward the end of his career when he was athletic, he averages around 9 blocks/game. If you half that number, and apply it to Wilt's total games, he's still comfortably ahead of Kareeem if you give him a generous total in blocks for his first 4 years.
    Related, you could also say Wilt's defense is underrated. Towards the end of his career when he focused on defense like Russel he anchored some of the statistically best defenses on those Lakers teams along with Jerry West (another person whose defense would be overlooked).

    • @keithjoseph128
      @keithjoseph128 Před 11 měsíci

      That's crazy! If this is true that means Wilt is even more overrated.

  • @willbridges321
    @willbridges321 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Love the vid Johnny! Yet again you’re making me question how much I actually know about the NBA 🤣 I knew Larry had 3 all defensive teams but never knew he finished 3rd in DPOY voting. Crazy to think about when you consider how much he did on the other side of the ball every night.

    • @phillipschuman4307
      @phillipschuman4307 Před 11 měsíci

      No, he finished 2nd, which is why it was higher than Duncan ever got. Duncan never came in 2nd. It's hard to believe, but in some seasons where he was 1st team all-defense (again!), he got 0 DPOY votes, according to an old Reddit thread I just read.

  • @Ham_1982
    @Ham_1982 Před 11 měsíci

    every time i see this, that Jordan fade away at the start is a work of art!!

  • @hot6teenz
    @hot6teenz Před 11 měsíci

    This is becoming one of my favorite channels

  • @hervedavidh4117
    @hervedavidh4117 Před 11 měsíci

    Didn't know about Bill Russell and the High Jump, really amazing !

  • @Eon210
    @Eon210 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Love this video.

  • @treystyles3760
    @treystyles3760 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Kobe 's passing, although he didn't do it that much, he pass to the post and set up shooters outside from the post, and make the right read on fastbreaks.

  • @senorsebie9206
    @senorsebie9206 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Bro why has Jonny been so consistent lately lmao. When is he sleeping 😂

  • @PEREYDARAY
    @PEREYDARAY Před 11 měsíci

    this video is excelent for the casuals out there good video my dude

  • @vicentecampos2893
    @vicentecampos2893 Před 11 měsíci

    Brilliant, as usual, some stats I did not know.

  • @FranzlLangJr
    @FranzlLangJr Před 11 měsíci

    Frank Ntilikina's Defensive Game. So underrated, especially when he played out in France
    Man France got some of the best bigs/defensive men

  • @hakeemolajuwon4352
    @hakeemolajuwon4352 Před 11 měsíci +5

    How are you gonna mention Jordan's blocks and not Olajuwon's steals?! Olajuwon recorded between 220-376 blocks and between 100-213 steals every season for 12 years!!! The year Jordan won DPOY, Olajuwon was the only player in history to record 200+ blocks and 200+ steals in the same season.

  • @overseer707
    @overseer707 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video and content as always. Johnny I was hoping you could consider making a video covering the history of the all star game (how its become less and less competitive over time) and give your input on how the system could be improved to make the whole weekend feel magical once again!
    Edit: Also I was wondering what your thoughts were about the All-Star starters voting process. Personally I really dislike how flawed the voting system really is (ex. Yao Ming being voted in after playing only 5 games all season in 2010-2011, as well as Magic Johnson getting the nod in 1992 even though he was a year into retirement due to HIV). IMO its time for a change.

  • @gabrielsolis4281
    @gabrielsolis4281 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Somebody gotta say it… you have the best video ideas

  • @stevelegreid
    @stevelegreid Před 11 měsíci

    That Jordan over Mason footage in the intro is picturesque. Especially with the music👍🏼

  • @Lewishhhh
    @Lewishhhh Před 11 měsíci +30

    although not under appreciated (as people who know about Bird respect it) but i feel like not enough people respect the fact that Larry Bird is probably the most complete player ever

    • @kawdi2343
      @kawdi2343 Před 11 měsíci +10

      fr i got him right after bron

    • @pharkasj
      @pharkasj Před 11 měsíci +2

      Imagine a healthy Paul George or T-Mac in a team whch has Kevin Mchale as a 6th man :D They are not better than Bird but still ...

    • @kiryukazuma8229
      @kiryukazuma8229 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I’d say Lebron is first but I definitely think Larry is 2nd

    • @ynot3094
      @ynot3094 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@kawdi2343yeah i think lebron has the edge on bird too because of the athleticism. Bird 2nd for sure tho

    • @dewanewelch1744
      @dewanewelch1744 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Honestly he just might be. Between him, Jordan, and Kobe.

  • @zoneoutodg1350
    @zoneoutodg1350 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video idea

  • @sakaridis
    @sakaridis Před 11 měsíci +2

    It's really sad that blocks were not part of the official stats back in the 50s and 60s. I'm pretty sure Bill and Wilt comfortably averages 4-5 per game.

    • @facelessandnameless
      @facelessandnameless Před 11 měsíci

      Wilt likely averaged 8 blocks a game in his prime.

    • @sakaridis
      @sakaridis Před 11 měsíci

      @@facelessandnameless Sounds plausible. Same for Russell as well, who was also more defense-focused in general.
      I was trying to be conservative with my "4-5 average" estimate. 😂

  • @mikhaeldavis6180
    @mikhaeldavis6180 Před 11 měsíci +2

    This is nice! 👍🏾

  • @ezhondave7077
    @ezhondave7077 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I think not a lot of people talk about MJ's fundamentals. He is one of the most fundamentally sound individuals in his sport, maybe behind only Duncan. His IQ and game sense translates well on the court due to the fact that he is also gifted athletically. If not for his fundamentals, he would probably encounter career defining injuries.

  • @treystyles3760
    @treystyles3760 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I remember Bird almost getting the quadruple double, but I forgot it was only 3qtrs, 30pts and almost 60 percent shooting 😮😮

    • @simonhughes4934
      @simonhughes4934 Před 11 měsíci

      The coach asked if he wanted to go back in the game, his response was 'ive done enough damage'!

  • @tpammt8276
    @tpammt8276 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I’ve been watching nearly lebrons entire career but when you said “Lebrons 45 finals games SINCE then” my eyebrows raised a bit. It’s just so many when you hear it like that

  • @Sue_me347
    @Sue_me347 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Truly amazing how many fresh and original topics you come up with. This is by far my favorite channel. You are appreciated Jonny

  • @loganmattoon5284
    @loganmattoon5284 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Like always speaking facts

    • @loganmattoon5284
      @loganmattoon5284 Před 11 měsíci +1

      And I ain't just being a suck up. You are legitimately the most unbiased media member/ basketball influencer today. Always being 100% genuine no secret agendas

  • @Prince_Luci
    @Prince_Luci Před 11 měsíci +1

    48.5 minutes a game, in Chuck Taylor’s, all while never fouling out a game. Wilt is an all time anomaly.

  • @rayneozier
    @rayneozier Před 9 měsíci

    4:35 The Big Dipper also had a mean hook shot. It was almost the opposite of the Sky Hook because he would dang near shoot it from the hip. It’s a wild shot to see,

  • @Conquistador76
    @Conquistador76 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Kareem’s shot blocking blows my mind, nice research as always @Jonny Arnett

  • @richardjackson5670
    @richardjackson5670 Před 11 měsíci +4

    MJ’s passing ability is also underrated! Nobody talks about that. 😅

  • @lanzcarisma2553
    @lanzcarisma2553 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I grew up watching the so called boring Spurs Dynasty and for me, Duncan's overlooked skill should be his passing. The Spurs system makes every player contribute in offball movements and accurate passing and Duncan is one of the underrated passing bigs

  • @stephon_the_icon1764
    @stephon_the_icon1764 Před 11 měsíci

    MJs dribbling and ability to shoot 3s as well, with Wilt as well is playmaking is so overlooked looked at old videos of wilt brining the ball down and passing like if he was jokic in his prime

  • @whartonarseino8849
    @whartonarseino8849 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Bill Russell's speed was unreal

  • @nicksamp515
    @nicksamp515 Před 11 měsíci +17

    Thank you for letting everybody know about LeBron's Clutch Gene. Ever since 2011, even after countless clutch moments, especially after his back to back 40 pt in a 3-1 comeback, he's still labeled as not having any killer instinct. I don't know why, but I'm guessing it stems from pro-jordan media analyst like skip who's running around saying he doesn't have one. Everybody forgot that in the eye test and stats says otherwise and nobody could argue he isn't one. Sure I would still consider MJ as a more clutch player, but If LeBron isn't clutch to you and somebody like curry, durant, kawhi are, then you simply just hate the man.

    • @UchihaGege
      @UchihaGege Před 11 měsíci +3

      Lebron is a clutch player but less clutch then Jordan or Bird for example!!!!

    • @nicksamp515
      @nicksamp515 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@UchihaGege As I've said, MJ and sure you can argue about bird being more clutch than him, but to label him as not clutch at all is one of the most horrible takes. Dude has countless clutch moments offensively and defensively plus he's 7-12 (58%) in playoff tying or winning shots since 2006

    • @choward5430
      @choward5430 Před 11 měsíci

      czcams.com/video/N51OKIZEkQE/video.html

    • @phillipcummings3518
      @phillipcummings3518 Před 11 měsíci +1

      People hate Bron because he takes all the glory and blames others for failure. He's a big bundle of sticks.

    • @choward5430
      @choward5430 Před 11 měsíci

      @@phillipcummings3518 I don't hate Lebron. I hate people telling me he's the goat when I know better.

  • @Tre325
    @Tre325 Před 11 měsíci +1

    @1:38 that pic of MJ is insane!!

  • @Maximillian200HP
    @Maximillian200HP Před 11 měsíci

    I have been saying Kareem's shotblocking/defense is underappreciated for YEARS! THANK YOU JOHNNY!

  • @Jixon_Nosefson
    @Jixon_Nosefson Před 11 měsíci

    Yo what’s up with the chapter names lmfao solid vid as always but when sidney moncrief and Michael cooler were popping up during your wilt segment it threw me off lol

  • @emmanuelmondesir
    @emmanuelmondesir Před 11 měsíci +3

    Johnny been on a run recently

  • @alexanderlyons4807
    @alexanderlyons4807 Před 11 měsíci +8

    I know he is going to be in the next one, but to me Curry's most underrated aspect is his rebounding. A lot of people might say his passing game or inside scoring, but to me his rebounding goes under the radar a lot of time. This past season he averaged 6 per game and the past 4-5 seasons before this one he averaged over 5 per game, the league average for PGs is 3. Which doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider he's a 6'2" point guard that specializes in shooting 3s that's a lot of rebounds, even more than a lot of players that have multiple inches on him. This past season he had the 5th highest of all poitn guards, the only ones above him were listed no shorter than 6'7". And outside of Luka the difference was only .3 at the most. The other 2 aspects i mentioned or even possibly his defense are the most likely to make the list, but the most underrated aspect in my opinion is the rebounding considering no one has ever mentioned it to my knowledge

  • @NewLightning1
    @NewLightning1 Před 10 měsíci

    Wilt playmaking when he plays for the 76ers is extremely underrated. He is the leading apg for center before jokic came around and he holds the record for most assist in a single season for a center

  • @jgrey8959
    @jgrey8959 Před 11 měsíci +3

    One rarity that Kareem managed was leading the league in blocks and rebounds in the same season. Very few have done so (Walton, Ben Wallace, Hakeem, Dwight Howard) because positioning for a block can often leave you out of position for a rebound.

    • @ChrisSmith-tu9bu
      @ChrisSmith-tu9bu Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yeah and Kareem did it while scoring a ton of points too

    • @teofemo7000
      @teofemo7000 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Kareem holds the single season record for defensive rebounds.

    • @oldeskoolnewsreels9927
      @oldeskoolnewsreels9927 Před 3 měsíci

      Not to be that guy, but Wilt probably would have done it 10 or 11 times if his blocks were counted.

    • @jgrey8959
      @jgrey8959 Před 3 měsíci

      @@oldeskoolnewsreels9927 Oh no doubt. Russell a few times too.

    • @oldeskoolnewsreels9927
      @oldeskoolnewsreels9927 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jgrey8959True, but out of the 10 years they played together Wilt led the league in rebounds 8 times and Bill two times. If Wilt and Bill didn't play against each other, they both would have probably done it every season they played.

  • @stevanchez1122
    @stevanchez1122 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Jordan's rebounding and ball control.
    Jordan is one of the greatest rebounding guards in the history of the sport and the greatest modern rebounding SG. He ranks 3rd all-time in rpg among SGs behind only Jerry Sloan and Tom Gola, who both played in the 50's/60's where everyone's rebounds were inflated. When looking at all guards, he ranks 7th behind Gola, Sloan, Oscar, Magic, Westbrook, and Kidd(who he's behind by only hundredths).
    Jordan has the highest usage rate in NBA history (33.26%), yet he has the 39th best TOV rate (9.34%) ever. Just to illustrate how ridiculous this is, among the "GOATs", only Kobe & Duncan rank in the top 250 all-time in TOV rate and they rank 165th and 245th, respectively. No all-time great, other than Jordan, has a TOV rate below 11.5%. Furthermore, Jordan has the best TOV rate of anyone that averages more than 4 apg. You put the ball in Jordan's hands and you were going to get a good outcome 90% of the time. There's, literally, no other great you can say that about.

  • @chanendlerbong
    @chanendlerbong Před 11 měsíci +1

    Im glad that you included Steph Curry in the GOATs group