I was privileged to get to go on one of the Horse Country tours at Spendthrift. We did the “Breeding Experience” tour and it was fascinating! As a Thoroughbred fan, I enjoy learning everything about the industry. Thank you for giving fans the opportunity to learn about the breeding aspect. It was interesting to see the different personalities of the stallions. There was one stallion who wouldn’t leave the breeding shed until he got his carrot treat afterwards.
I am still elated after all these years to have visited Spendthrift Farm when we did-in 1969 when Spendthrift seemed to have all the august stallions of "old" ones you see back several generations in pedigrees. It still thrills me to be able to tell other horse lovers whom I know keep up on who is accomplishing what at the races. When Mom and Dad took my sister and me to Kentucky Horse country, we first stopped by Calumet to see Citation in the last year of his life. Then we went to Spendthrift, and saw Nashua, Swaps, Never Bend, Creme dela Creme, Gallant Man, Sword Dancer, and Raise A Native. They had Nashua out of his stall, posing him for what was probably a mare owner looking for just the right stallion for his mare. I wasn't allowed closer than just so many feet from Nashua, but I DID know what/who I was looking at since I kept up with Thoroughbreds even as a high school student. Now, you see all these stallions back in the pedigrees of so many great race and breeding horses. A day I'll never forget. Beautiful farm btw, and it looks like they maintain it well from when we visited. I remember that stable yard well. When Nashua was being posed for the mare owner, he was standing right about where the statue sits in one of the parts of this video.
Such a video needed to be filmed and was eminently overdue so thank you, My Racehorse and Spendthrift Farm, for producing this very informative, very intricate elucidation that answered a great many questions about several factors to do with the thoroughbred breeding industry-factors of which many of us found to be perplexing, including myself. It never made sense to me how all of the mares could be bred within the same few months. I didn't understand how they each entered estrus during the same span of time. I figured their estrus was being influenced by something but I was oblivious as to what. I imagined it to be an exceedingly elaborate process that consisted of injections and etcetera... I most certainly never expected it to be something as simple as mere lighting! 🤣 It makes perfect sense now though. As the maiden and barren mares are being prepared for estrus, the rest are delivering their foals. Once the mares who delivered have healed and begin to enter estrus again, the maiden and barren mares are also entering estrus. Incredible!
Horse racing has changed. I worked at eagle oak ranch for 12 years. New horse owner are coming in to buy a horse and tell there trainer what day they are bringing friends to Del Mar. and want the horse running. I will apologize for the headache my boss was towards you with are breeding with her mares. You guys are professional. I look up to how well organized your farm is.
I don't care to see the people crowds, but learning about breeding and that it is done right is cool. Plus, done safely, healthy, and best for the breed.
I’ve never understood why a surrogate couldn’t be allowed. Especially in the case of mares who have difficult births, like Rachel Alexandra. Or why the genetic material (egg/semen) of a filly/mare, stallion/colt couldn’t be saved like in the case of Barbaro, or other horses who have died. Maybe I’m just ignorant but it seems like a lot of amazing horses, especially those who have died through no fault of their own (illness or accidents), could have had their lineage passed down with science.
AQHA allows artificial insemination and recip mares. Mares are allowed 2 foals to be registered per year. Stallions are collected and the semen frozen, so if something should happen to him, more mares can be bred to him. Most Quarter horse mares are bred at their home, never seeing the stallion. When the mare is checked by a vet and she's near to ovulation, they call the stallion farm, he is collected, the semen is extended and divided into two 'straws' which is then shipped next day air in a special cooled container, it's delivered to the mares home and the vet then inserts it into her. Two weeks later, she will be ultrasounded to see if it 'took'. Eleven months and two weeks later she'll hopefully have a live foal.
Many breeding farms breed up to 200 hundred mares, per breeding seasons. That's not including 2nd, 3rd tries. Then the Hemisphere stallions breed more a year. Unheard of years ago.
All you are saying is good but what about breeding the best to the best?.How many 2 of 3 Triple Crown winners Spendthrift Farm stallions or mares have been bred to ?
I think what you are asking in your second sentence is "How often does Spendthrift breed its mares to winners of two of the three Triple Crown races?" (No mare has ever won 2 of the 3 Triple Crown races.) Top breeding operations like Spendthrift do breed the best to the best. But "best" in the breeding shed is not necessarily "best" on the track. When a stallion enters stud, his stud fee will initially be set by a combination of his racetrack performance, his pedigree and his conformation; and to a degree (a year or two later), how good his progeny look as foals/yearlings. But once his babies hit the track, all that becomes secondary almost to the point of irrelevance. As is addressed around 13:00 here, what sets his stud value after his progeny have been running for a few years is how much money his get are earning on the track, and the quality of the races they are winning or placing in. THAT is what counts in the long run in judging a sire's quality. Not his track career, no matter how successful. A case in point, although I could provide many others: Smarty Jones won the 2004 Kentucky Derby and Preakness. He was champion 3-yr-old male that year, and retired with a 9:8-1-0 career record and 7.6 million dollars in earnings. It's likely he would have been a Hall of Famer if he had been able to race after the Belmont. Ninth in Smarty Jones's Derby was a colt named Tapit, who was plagued with illness. Tapit finished 9th in his next and last race, and retired with a career record of 6:3-0-0 and winnings of a little over $500,000. Tapit entered stud with a relatively low stud fee of $15,000. But his progeny started winning as soon as they hit the track; his first crop produced the two-year-old filly champion. Tapit went on to set North American progeny earnings records two years in a row. Even before the recent success of Flightline, his greatest son, Tapit had already become recognized as the greatest North American sire in decades. Tapit's stud fee peaked in 2015 at $300,000, the highest in North America. Tapit's stud fee currently stands at $185,000. I don't know Smarty Jones's entering stud fee, but I am certain it was a lot more than Tapit's. But Smarty Jones's 2022 stud fee is $3500. He stands in Pennsylvania. He was so unsuccessful as a stud that he was not retained in Kentucky, where the best mares mostly are. Similar was true for Spectacular Bid, an all-time great and like Smarty Jones, a Derby/Preakness winner. Bid ended his stud career in upstate New York, siring sport horses as well as runners. So winning Triple Crown races does not ensure a colt will be an outstanding, or even good, sire. Of the 15 N. American sires highest in progeny earnings so far in 2022, only 3 (Curlin #3, Gun Runner #5, and American Pharoah #11) are Hall of Fame runners. Triple Crown winners Secretariat and Affirmed turned out to be above average, but not outstanding, sires. North American contemporaries who much overshadowed them in the breeding shed were Seattle Slew and Alydar (both great racehorses as well as great sires), but also Danzig, who was unbeaten in a short career of 3 races, and Mr. Prospector, a champion sprinter unsuited for classic distances like the Triple Crown races. Similar applies to mares, although a well-bred, successful racing mare doesn't lose value as much as a breeder if their progeny aren't performing as would be the case for a stud. Some of the great racemares have been failures as broodmares, and some of the greatest broodmares did nothing on the track.
This is a business first of all. Secondly, you need to understand the sport and the actual odds even with proper pairing of mares is very low for a racing prospect. As for “inbreeding”, you need to learn the difference between inbreeding and linebreeding. Those are not the same thing. All properly bred domesticated animals are linebred. This is actually extremely healthy and improves the breed without creating a genetic bottleneck of any kind
@@barbarascotto3873 you do realize that horses are not humans correct? They’re livestock. Feelings aside for horses, this is no different than slaughtering cows for meat. GOD made animals for us, not us for the animals. There’s nothing wrong with eating meat, the Bible is GOD’s word and it’s clear that not eating meat is a weakness, not a strength….. in other words, get over it. It’s also very rare that thoroughbred horses sent to slaughter btw, they’re too useful and desirable even if they don’t turn out as a racing prospect
@@sionrouge1697 Arrogate died after three breeding seasons. He produced over 300 offspring, more than Native Dancer sired in 13 seasons. It’s common now for horses like American Pharoah to be bred to over 100 mares a year.
Just seen this video on 7/8/22...and a frame with that Bob Bafferet in it ......knowing what he has done...just might loose some business for you......but this is just in my opinion only..I have watch lots of races and sales and kept up with the racing scene since I was 12 yrs old, I am now 72....never did like him as a trainer....it was just a feeling......but like I said this is just in my opinion only...
I see you haven't received a reply from MR. I stood 3 thoroughbred stallions and saw all types of mare and stallion attitudes. It really depends, I know of some mares that have had foals at 22 yrs old.
@@peskycitizen7582 Thank goodness she's in the hands of people who care more about their horses than they do money. If she had been under the care of others, she very well could've had a gravestone by now. Given her career and pedigree, some wouldn't have stopped for anything to get a foal or two more out of her despite knowing they'd be ensuring she have an excruciatingly torturous demise... They bred Leslie's Lady to death and she is just to name one of the thousands of broodmares who's lifespans were chopped in half do to being excessively and unnaturally bred for the largest portion of their lives. The mares aren't the only sufferers of the industry though. The stallions are grossly overbred as well. Take American Pharoah for example... In a single season, he will cover hundreds of mares and then be shipped to Australia to cover hundreds more. By the time he returns to the states, he hardly has any time to recuperate because guess what's approaching? Our breeding season... And they pretend to wonder why these boys are dropping like flies.
If I should find myself reincarnated after death, as a racehorse colt, I will work very hard to be a champion racing stallion because the retirement you earn simply can not be beat.
A.I. happens more often with thoroughbreds than people would think. not for nefarious reasons but for safety reasons at the same farm. if a mare is known to kick the stallion they sometimes artificially inseminate her to avoid injury to the stallion and the people that are handling the horses.
I assume you mean semen, rather than milk. But semen production does not necessarily correlate with either libido or fertility. There have been a number of stallions who were fertile, physically capable of siring foals, who weren't much interested in mating. Famous examples of (very) reluctant breeders include The Tetrarch, a great British Thoroughbred of the early 20th century, and War Emblem, 2002 Kentucky Derby & Preakness winner. Conversely, a stallion can have normal libido and be subfertile or even sterile. 1946 Triple Crown winner Assault and 1990's champion Cigar had a normal interest in breeding, but neither ever succeeded in getting a mare in foal.
@@marysueeasteregg Well, I am a city boy who grew up in NYC during the Mad Men era and the only horses I knew were those pulling the carriages at Central Park and police horses. Are the tours given by stud farms have a rating like that of the movies from G to NC17 ?
@@luislaplume8261 For the general public, I suspect it's all G rated. Lots of families take these tours, after all. The public isn't going to be given access to the breeding shed. Not for the sake of their modesty, but because the procedure is tense and potentially dangerous and many of the horses are so valuable. I am guessing that public tours do not commonly include visits to stallions during the busy breeding season, or to in-foal and newly delivered broodmares during the overlapping foaling season. Decades ago, friends of mine who were small-time breeders (one broodmare) toured a number of breeding farms and got to visit some famous stallions, some of whom they were warned to keep a wide berth from. They got a private tour of Claiborne, on invitation of the gracious Penny Chenery, owner of Secretariat, whom they had met at a breeders' seminar. There they got to meet up close -- pet! -- the sociable Secretariat. But I dare say this was not during the breeding season. And I doubt the general public was given the privilege to meet him up that close. But even as participants in the industry, my friends never set foot near a breeding shed. I take for granted they would not have been welcome even at the breeding sessions of their own mare.
It is so ridiculous to risk the mare or stallion by not allowing AI. With ID chips and genetic testing, you can prove the genetic makeup of your horses.
As I explain elsewhere, live cover is not currently required in order to ensure paternity. It is required to minimize inbreeding due to overuse of popular studs, and to protect the enormous and lucrative boarding industry.
@IonisIsFalling7217 #1- first most, the act of insemination was produced, organically. Thus complying with regulations. #2- if he shoots blank, they will know #3- "topping off" is natural among mammals, = fertilization I don't understand, what you don't understand... it's not cheating, it's evolution...
Don't mares get nasty when they aren't bred though? I don't claim to know anything about horse breeding. Just from what I've heard. I don't agree with over breeding, or any of that stuff. I was just wondering how it's a "rape" she'd when they aren't forcing her. Mares in heat usually let the male know she's ready or not. Which is why they put those boots on her. If she isn't "ready" I know the mares can seriously injure the stallion. They will kick and not accept him at all. They seem to care about both mare and stallion. So maybe it's not forced.
@@tamielynne7374 - complete foolishness about unbred mares acting any differently. And many breeding sheds will do whatever is needed to get the mare covered, whether she really wants to or not. Lip twitch, ear held, leg up so they can't kick, booties on back to protect the stallion, shot of Ace (tranquilizer) for the mare, etc.
in the myracehorse deal the investors have no interest in the horses after their racing career is over. the people that bought into authentic got screwed.
The look on that jockey statue's face when the horse mating noises were playing is hilarious. Whoever did this has a fantastic sense of humor.
I expected a lot more farting sounds and got none at all. I'm honestly surprised.
I was privileged to get to go on one of the Horse Country tours at Spendthrift. We did the “Breeding Experience” tour and it was fascinating! As a Thoroughbred fan, I enjoy learning everything about the industry. Thank you for giving fans the opportunity to learn about the breeding aspect. It was interesting to see the different personalities of the stallions. There was one stallion who wouldn’t leave the breeding shed until he got his carrot treat afterwards.
I am still elated after all these years to have visited Spendthrift Farm when we did-in 1969 when Spendthrift seemed to have all the august stallions of "old" ones you see back several generations in pedigrees. It still thrills me to be able to tell other horse lovers whom I know keep up on who is accomplishing what at the races. When Mom and Dad took my sister and me to Kentucky Horse country, we first stopped by Calumet to see Citation in the last year of his life. Then we went to Spendthrift, and saw Nashua, Swaps, Never Bend, Creme dela Creme, Gallant Man, Sword Dancer, and Raise A Native. They had Nashua out of his stall, posing him for what was probably a mare owner looking for just the right stallion for his mare. I wasn't allowed closer than just so many feet from Nashua, but I DID know what/who I was looking at since I kept up with Thoroughbreds even as a high school student. Now, you see all these stallions back in the pedigrees of so many great race and breeding horses. A day I'll never forget. Beautiful farm btw, and it looks like they maintain it well from when we visited. I remember that stable yard well. When Nashua was being posed for the mare owner, he was standing right about where the statue sits in one of the parts of this video.
That's beautiful. History of the horses we love. Thank You
Great video to raise awareness about the thoroughbred industry!
Such a video needed to be filmed and was eminently overdue so thank you, My Racehorse and Spendthrift Farm, for producing this very informative, very intricate elucidation that answered a great many questions about several factors to do with the thoroughbred breeding industry-factors of which many of us found to be perplexing, including myself. It never made sense to me how all of the mares could be bred within the same few months. I didn't understand how they each entered estrus during the same span of time. I figured their estrus was being influenced by something but I was oblivious as to what. I imagined it to be an exceedingly elaborate process that consisted of injections and etcetera... I most certainly never expected it to be something as simple as mere lighting! 🤣 It makes perfect sense now though. As the maiden and barren mares are being prepared for estrus, the rest are delivering their foals. Once the mares who delivered have healed and begin to enter estrus again, the maiden and barren mares are also entering estrus. Incredible!
An outstanding interview!!!! The questions that I have often thought about were answered.
Fascinating.
9:01 That statue can never unhear what they have heard.
This was so educational and informative. Thanks!! As a fan and bettor I enjoy learning the whole industry.
I'm just thrilled to be an owner of this stud.
R.I.P. Malibu Moon...
Amazing care taken of these horses. Real pros! Interested in knowing how much a stud fee is. Thanks for sharing.
Horse racing has changed. I worked at eagle oak ranch for 12 years. New horse owner are coming in to buy a horse and tell there trainer what day they are bringing friends to Del Mar. and want the horse running. I will apologize for the headache my boss was towards you with are breeding with her mares. You guys are professional. I look up to how well organized your farm is.
I don't care to see the people crowds, but learning about breeding and that it is done right is cool. Plus, done safely, healthy, and best for the breed.
Very informative, thank you.
I love horses their my favorite animal 💖💖💖
They live like kings!!!!!
The lucky or fast ones do. Many more go to slaughter, think about that the next time you're placing your $2 bet.
Do any of them go into retirement as field horses out in the pasture?.
I’ve never understood why a surrogate couldn’t be allowed. Especially in the case of mares who have difficult births, like Rachel Alexandra. Or why the genetic material (egg/semen) of a filly/mare, stallion/colt couldn’t be saved like in the case of Barbaro, or other horses who have died. Maybe I’m just ignorant but it seems like a lot of amazing horses, especially those who have died through no fault of their own (illness or accidents), could have had their lineage passed down with science.
AQHA allows artificial insemination and recip mares. Mares are allowed 2 foals to be registered per year. Stallions are collected and the semen frozen, so if something should happen to him, more mares can be bred to him. Most Quarter horse mares are bred at their home, never seeing the stallion. When the mare is checked by a vet and she's near to ovulation, they call the stallion farm, he is collected, the semen is extended and divided into two 'straws' which is then shipped next day air in a special cooled container, it's delivered to the mares home and the vet then inserts it into her. Two weeks later, she will be ultrasounded to see if it 'took'. Eleven months and two weeks later she'll hopefully have a live foal.
Racing thoroughbreds are not allowed (due to tradition), other breeds can be artificially inseminated.
@@lizxu322 Yeah I know but things need to change. The jockey club’s traditions are archaic.
@@mikaelafox6106 How?
@@mikaelafox6106 archaic is a bit extreme
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The second career story of War Emblem could be a video.
Many breeding farms breed up to 200 hundred mares, per breeding seasons. That's not including 2nd, 3rd tries. Then the Hemisphere stallions breed more a year. Unheard of years ago.
I don’t think it’s good for a stallion’s back to breed all year long.
All you are saying is good but what about breeding the best to the best?.How many 2 of 3 Triple Crown winners Spendthrift Farm stallions or mares have been bred to ?
I think what you are asking in your second sentence is "How often does Spendthrift breed its mares to winners of two of the three Triple Crown races?" (No mare has ever won 2 of the 3 Triple Crown races.)
Top breeding operations like Spendthrift do breed the best to the best. But "best" in the breeding shed is not necessarily "best" on the track. When a stallion enters stud, his stud fee will initially be set by a combination of his racetrack performance, his pedigree and his conformation; and to a degree (a year or two later), how good his progeny look as foals/yearlings. But once his babies hit the track, all that becomes secondary almost to the point of irrelevance. As is addressed around 13:00 here, what sets his stud value after his progeny have been running for a few years is how much money his get are earning on the track, and the quality of the races they are winning or placing in. THAT is what counts in the long run in judging a sire's quality. Not his track career, no matter how successful.
A case in point, although I could provide many others:
Smarty Jones won the 2004 Kentucky Derby and Preakness. He was champion 3-yr-old male that year, and retired with a 9:8-1-0 career record and 7.6 million dollars in earnings. It's likely he would have been a Hall of Famer if he had been able to race after the Belmont.
Ninth in Smarty Jones's Derby was a colt named Tapit, who was plagued with illness. Tapit finished 9th in his next and last race, and retired with a career record of 6:3-0-0 and winnings of a little over $500,000. Tapit entered stud with a relatively low stud fee of $15,000. But his progeny started winning as soon as they hit the track; his first crop produced the two-year-old filly champion. Tapit went on to set North American progeny earnings records two years in a row. Even before the recent success of Flightline, his greatest son, Tapit had already become recognized as the greatest North American sire in decades. Tapit's stud fee peaked in 2015 at $300,000, the highest in North America. Tapit's stud fee currently stands at $185,000.
I don't know Smarty Jones's entering stud fee, but I am certain it was a lot more than Tapit's. But Smarty Jones's 2022 stud fee is $3500. He stands in Pennsylvania. He was so unsuccessful as a stud that he was not retained in Kentucky, where the best mares mostly are. Similar was true for Spectacular Bid, an all-time great and like Smarty Jones,
a Derby/Preakness winner. Bid ended his stud career in upstate New York, siring sport horses as well as runners.
So winning Triple Crown races does not ensure a colt will be an outstanding, or even good, sire. Of the 15 N. American sires highest in progeny earnings so far in 2022, only 3 (Curlin #3, Gun Runner #5, and American Pharoah #11) are Hall of Fame runners.
Triple Crown winners Secretariat and Affirmed turned out to be above average, but not outstanding, sires. North American contemporaries who much overshadowed them in the breeding shed were Seattle Slew and Alydar (both great racehorses as well as great sires), but also Danzig, who was unbeaten in a short career of 3 races, and Mr. Prospector, a champion sprinter unsuited for classic distances like the Triple Crown races.
Similar applies to mares, although a well-bred, successful racing mare doesn't lose value as much as a breeder if their progeny aren't performing as would be the case for a stud. Some of the great racemares have been failures as broodmares, and some of the greatest broodmares did nothing on the track.
Too many mares per stallion. Not that long ago, a full book was about 35 mares per year. Now there is even more inbreeding.
Absolutely right, and how many horses go to slaughter every year? It's fucking disgusting.
There are also more tracks and races. You cant cover only 35 mares from Feb to June
This is a business first of all. Secondly, you need to understand the sport and the actual odds even with proper pairing of mares is very low for a racing prospect. As for “inbreeding”, you need to learn the difference between inbreeding and linebreeding. Those are not the same thing. All properly bred domesticated animals are linebred. This is actually extremely healthy and improves the breed without creating a genetic bottleneck of any kind
@@barbarascotto3873 you do realize that horses are not humans correct? They’re livestock. Feelings aside for horses, this is no different than slaughtering cows for meat. GOD made animals for us, not us for the animals. There’s nothing wrong with eating meat, the Bible is GOD’s word and it’s clear that not eating meat is a weakness, not a strength….. in other words, get over it. It’s also very rare that thoroughbred horses sent to slaughter btw, they’re too useful and desirable even if they don’t turn out as a racing prospect
@@sionrouge1697 Arrogate died after three breeding seasons. He produced over 300 offspring, more than Native Dancer sired in 13 seasons.
It’s common now for horses like American Pharoah to be bred to over 100 mares a year.
Just seen this video on 7/8/22...and a frame with that Bob Bafferet in it ......knowing what he has done...just might loose some business for you......but this is just in my opinion only..I have watch lots of races and sales and kept up with the racing scene since I was 12 yrs old, I am now 72....never did like him as a trainer....it was just a feeling......but like I said this is just in my opinion only...
Seeing trainers like Charlie Whittingham get shunted aside while Bafferet was glorified was gross
But what happens to all these colts being bred if they aren’t perfect and don’t perform on the track?
They come to the quarter horse side 😈
Awhat do you think, seriously
@@skippertallgrass4942.... Quarter horses are a different breed all together you complete idiot.
They get their nuts cut off and become geldings
At what age does a thoroubred mare stop having foals?
I see you haven't received a reply from MR. I stood 3 thoroughbred stallions and saw all types of mare and stallion attitudes. It really depends, I know of some mares that have had foals at 22 yrs old.
Depends on the individual mare. Most owners are responsible and do what is best for the mare, i.e., Rachel Alexander.
@@peskycitizen7582 Thank goodness she's in the hands of people who care more about their horses than they do money. If she had been under the care of others, she very well could've had a gravestone by now. Given her career and pedigree, some wouldn't have stopped for anything to get a foal or two more out of her despite knowing they'd be ensuring she have an excruciatingly torturous demise... They bred Leslie's Lady to death and she is just to name one of the thousands of broodmares who's lifespans were chopped in half do to being excessively and unnaturally bred for the largest portion of their lives. The mares aren't the only sufferers of the industry though. The stallions are grossly overbred as well. Take American Pharoah for example... In a single season, he will cover hundreds of mares and then be shipped to Australia to cover hundreds more. By the time he returns to the states, he hardly has any time to recuperate because guess what's approaching? Our breeding season... And they pretend to wonder why these boys are dropping like flies.
@@drudanng.8567 … Leslie’s Lady was retired after the 2020 breeding season and died while in retirement. She did not die after foaling.
Somethingroyal, Secretariat's dam, was 18 years old at the time of his birth.
cool
If I should find myself reincarnated after death, as a racehorse colt, I will work very hard to be a champion racing stallion because the retirement you earn simply can not be beat.
Do they allow photography in the breeding shed?
There is video of the breeding process on youtube.....
You can’t do progesterone testing with horses? You have to do a rectal ultrasound?
Lie, it’s an easy decision. Retire automatically at 3 if the horse wins 1-3 prestigious races
It is getting to that point. I dearly hope the next Triple Crown winner is a gelding.
A.I. happens more often with thoroughbreds than people would think. not for nefarious reasons but for safety reasons at the same farm. if a mare is known to kick the stallion they sometimes artificially inseminate her to avoid injury to the stallion and the people that are handling the horses.
They literally get a “boom boom room”
Who Runs The World!!!!!
If it gives milk from its thing the the stallion is verile.
What? Your really confused
I assume you mean semen, rather than milk. But semen production does not necessarily correlate with either libido or fertility.
There have been a number of stallions who were fertile, physically capable of siring foals, who weren't much interested in mating. Famous examples of (very) reluctant breeders include The Tetrarch, a great British Thoroughbred of the early 20th century, and War Emblem, 2002 Kentucky Derby & Preakness winner. Conversely, a stallion can have normal libido and be subfertile or even sterile. 1946 Triple Crown winner Assault and 1990's champion Cigar had a normal interest in breeding, but neither ever succeeded in getting a mare in foal.
@@marysueeasteregg Well, I am a city boy who grew up in NYC during the Mad Men era and the only horses I knew were those pulling the carriages at Central Park and police horses. Are the tours given by stud farms have a rating like that of the movies from G to NC17 ?
@@luislaplume8261 For the general public, I suspect it's all G rated. Lots of families take these tours, after all. The public isn't going to be given access to the breeding shed. Not for the sake of their modesty, but because the procedure is tense and potentially dangerous and many of the horses are so valuable.
I am guessing that public tours do not commonly include visits to stallions during the busy breeding season, or to in-foal and newly delivered broodmares during the overlapping foaling season.
Decades ago, friends of mine who were small-time breeders (one broodmare) toured a number of breeding farms and got to visit some famous stallions, some of whom they were warned to keep a wide berth from. They got a private tour of Claiborne, on invitation of the gracious Penny Chenery, owner of Secretariat, whom they had met at a breeders' seminar. There they got to meet up close -- pet! -- the sociable Secretariat. But I dare say this was not during the breeding season. And I doubt the general public was given the privilege to meet him up that close. But even as participants in the industry, my
friends never set foot near a breeding shed. I take for granted they would not have been welcome even at the breeding sessions of their own mare.
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It is so ridiculous to risk the mare or stallion by not allowing AI. With ID chips and genetic testing, you can prove the genetic makeup of your horses.
As I explain elsewhere, live cover is not currently required in order to ensure paternity. It is required to minimize inbreeding due to overuse of popular studs, and to protect the enormous and lucrative boarding industry.
How is that “topping off” not AI? That’s cheating.
@IonisIsFalling7217
#1- first most, the act of insemination was produced, organically. Thus complying with regulations.
#2- if he shoots blank, they will know
#3- "topping off" is natural among mammals, = fertilization
I don't understand, what you don't understand... it's not cheating, it's evolution...
Interesting. However, this chap’s automaton-like delivery is rather like listening-to-paint-dry. About half-way, I left.
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I call it rappe chamber breading shed
Don't mares get nasty when they aren't bred though? I don't claim to know anything about horse breeding. Just from what I've heard. I don't agree with over breeding, or any of that stuff. I was just wondering how it's a "rape" she'd when they aren't forcing her. Mares in heat usually let the male know she's ready or not. Which is why they put those boots on her. If she isn't "ready" I know the mares can seriously injure the stallion. They will kick and not accept him at all. They seem to care about both mare and stallion. So maybe it's not forced.
@@tamielynne7374 - complete foolishness about unbred mares acting any differently. And many breeding sheds will do whatever is needed to get the mare covered, whether she really wants to or not. Lip twitch, ear held, leg up so they can't kick, booties on back to protect the stallion, shot of Ace (tranquilizer) for the mare, etc.
in the myracehorse deal the investors have no interest in the horses after their racing career is over. the people that bought into authentic got screwed.