WoW Classic: Burning Crusade Advanced Shaman Guide Part 1: Changes, Stats, Spells, Theorycraft | TBC
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- In this video, Melderon covers all advanced topics of the Shaman Class in Classic TBC including class changes, race/faction selection, new and advanced stats, spell coefficients, spec-specific theorycraft for Enhancement, Elemental, and Restoration; raid group composition and bloodlust/heroism strategy, addons and UI, threat, leveling theory, and stat priorities.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction & Table of Contents
05:53 Inherent Class Changes
09:22 Basic & Advanced Stats
22:19 Race/Faction Selection
29:47 Random Enchantment Gear
31:35 New Spells & Talents
47:37 Changes to Old Spells & Talents
1:01:44 Spell Coefficients & Downranking
1:15:55 Spell Coefficient Testing
1:33:00 Enhancement Theorycraft
2:15:05 Elemental Theorycraft
2:26:53 Restoration Theorycraft
2:42:22 Raid Composition & Strategy
2:48:08 Shaman Leveling in TBC
2:51:36 Aldor or Scryers?
2:55:06 UI & Addons
2:59:33 Conclusions & Additional Resources
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Thank you so much for watching this video! Please check back frequently as I update this comment with any mistakes or clarifications (below timestamps)
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction & Table of Contents
05:53 Inherent Class Changes
09:22 Basic & Advanced Stats
22:19 Race/Faction Selection
29:47 Random Enchantment Gear
31:35 New Spells & Talents
47:37 Changes to Old Spells & Talents
1:01:44 Spell Coefficients & Downranking
1:15:55 Spell Coefficient Testing
1:33:00 Enhancement Theorycraft
2:15:05 Elemental Theorycraft
2:26:53 Restoration Theorycraft
2:42:22 Raid Composition & Strategy
2:48:08 Shaman Leveling in TBC
2:51:36 Aldor or Scryers?
2:55:06 UI & Addons
2:59:33 Conclusions & Additional Resources
Errata:
1.) Concerning Haste: I erroneously said "in the time it takes you to cast 100 spells, you can now cast 99" I should have said, "In the time it takes you to cast 99, you can now cast 100"
2.) Concerning the elemental pet totems: I erroneously said they have a shared 20 minute cool down. They have independent 20 minute cool downs but once one is used it puts the other one on CD for 2 minutes
3.) During the Draenei slide, I erroneously say that +10 Shadow Resist awards Nature Resistance, it obviously awards Shadow Resistance (typo)
4.) In the elemental theorycraft section concerning LB and CL cast times, I erroneously say that Blizzard increased the coefficients by 13%, it's an 8% increase (I did a percent reduction instead of a percent increase)
5.) During the troll race selection slide, the text erroneously reads regeneration provides mana regen, which leads me to say Mana. it only affects health regen both inside and outside of combat
6.) During the threat capping slide in the Enhancement section, I erroneously said that Shamanistic Rage will fall off if you aren't attacking the target. I meant to say Unleashed Rage.
An awsome guide for sure, thank you for the effort. :) I do have a question though; If you are an enhancement shaman, and use windfury MH and flametongue OH, would it make sense to go elemental offspec with elemental devistation and elemental fury for 100% on spellcrit (does flametongue even benefit from elemental fury?), provided you gem a bit different for more spellcrit..You would loose out on the enhancement end talent which would suck for sure, but in a hypotetical (no mana issues) scenario...?
Probably not worth it at all, forgot about that enhancement tree demands more talents than just 40 points
@@mirzasehic7971 FT does benefit from EF, however you would lose out on shamanistic rage. Also, ED is great however it requires a good amount of spell hit which you won't have
There is a mistake at 28:10 about draenei racial trait "Shadow resistance increases Nature resistance". Great guide, thank you a lot!
Hey Melderon, first off thanks for putting out such in depth, thoughtful content as always! Second, I loved the UI section at the end. Any chance you'd do a shaman UI video with some helpful addons/weakauras? I know you touch on this more generally, but it would be cool to see which specific ones you use. The UI in the video was gorgeous :D
This guide is incredible. I love how methodical you are and how often you tie the information to the data. I can't wait for the next part!
Thank you for your time on this - just wow ! Thank you for the detail ! I’m paladin atm but getting together gear for my shammy and stocking JC/ tailoring
Just wanted to say that I am really grateful to you for taking the time and do this
Thanks so much
Omg thanks for this video!!! I just watched your classic shaman video. I’m making the move to shaman and it’s one of the only classes I’ve never played!! I love all your Deep dive class guides. I always learn so much
I didn't play much classic, but I knew that if TBC Classic came out that I'd play a Draenei Shaman! This is awesome, thanks guys!
melderon is so horde that he never even heard anyone pronounce draenei haha
Damn right!
Had to come to the comments as soon as I heard that. I've literally never heard anyone pronounce "draenei" that way.
What is this 'draenei' you speak of?
Druhnei master race
@@Suckynewb here (where i live), everyone who i know, that plays wow, pronounce "draenei" that way xD
Even me
Amazing guide! So much depth and analysis with great explanations. You did a great job of diving in deep but still providing high level takeaways that are easy to remember and implement. My TBC shaman will be a better character because of this guide.
I'm only 30 minutes in so far, but considering this dropped late at night I think I'm doing well.
Great Advanced Guide, I like how you start off and I hope there will be some fun little details that I don't expect.
Not even sure yet if I will play a shaman, but it's one of the few in my selection.
incredible work man! thanks for spending the time and effort to make this guide.
the "inherent class changes" was all i needed. AMAZING video. really needed that bit of info regarding sham tanking to decide whether to take my sham to bc or not. im gonna leave him in vanilla and just make a new sham in bc to have fun dual wielding. this tiny bit of info is so hard to find from experts so i can't thank you enough for that.
You put so much more work into your videos than most youtubers, this is a great video
edit: regarding the reduced cast times of lightning bolt and chain lightning, it was supposed to help resto and enhancement shaman be able to use the spell (especially in arena) without nerfing the spell for elemental. There was a blue post about it when it was topical (sometime around 2.3)
Thanks for the guide. Gonna be rerolling either an Orc or Tauren Shaman because my friend absolutely wants to be a Blood Elf Paladin. Can't say I really know a lot about the class, but I've had enough of looking on with envious eyes when some badass blows some sucker up with Chain Lightning procs or seeing Chain Heal zipping across friendly targets. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Pretty sure I'm going to be healing when I cap, thanks for all the information!
your videos were exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
Awesome guide. I'm a strong player but learned multiple things from this guide that will propel me even further. Thanks so much
Such a great video. I learned so much, thank you!
what a phenomenal presentation. thank you!
Yesss! I was waiting for more Shaman content! I'll watch tomorrow though.
I've been leveling a shammy in Classic and have got to lvl 30 so far (enhancement), and I must say I've grown very fond of the class and just feel the urge to gush about it! It feels very proactive - I find myself playing at a slower pace, planning each fight, or maybe two or three fights ahead, not because I can't handle them, but to keep up a good pace and drink as little as I can. Years back, I used to balk at the amount of stuff you need to have on your hotbars, but I think I misunderstood the intent. We're not meant to use all our tools in any situation, we need to make tactical choices on which tools - whether totems, shocks, heals or whatever - we will use in any situation. Choosing the encounter, what abilities and totems I'll use, where I'll engage, planning the timing of back to back fights to make the most of my totem durations, keeping a contingency if things go awry... All this leads to a slower, more deliberate pace, and I love this change, coming from leveling a rogue alt at the same time (which I'm also loving but for different reasons).
And of course, I love how I get the best (or worst, if you're a glass half empty type) of both worlds - I feel the impact of a new weapon but I also have sweet magic at my disposal! It has a true hybrid feel.
If one were to ask me how I feel on my shaman, I'd say "capable". I may not get a sense of sheer power like with other classes (e.g. lcok and rogue), but I feel like I have a tool for every occasion. And if we get TBC... Hooo boy, I think the experience will take off!
Great guide, thanks for that! Going to go Elemental myself.
Probably didn't miss it, maybe just not too relevant for most people, but when I levelled, I regretted taking Scryers over Aldor for the SSO trinket. I know most people would have found a better trinket by then but was certainly an upgrade for me at the time. I am relatively casual though. I should say I killed Illhoof a dozen times and never dropped it:(
Lol I was just thinking about if I should look into a guide for classic. Have a great day and stay safe!
Awesome vid thanks for putting in all the time to make it
Already knew most of this, but really well done. Thanks for doing this :) 10/10
Love it. Keep up the great work!
As always, you provide the best shaman info in the world.
Incredible work man.
Love it brotha! So very very grateful for this.
Thanks for helping me get hype to play shammy again! Had a Draenei enhance back in tbc named baluga. Cant wait to do it again!
Dude great work, never seen anybody put as much work into these guides as you. Love to know that I got someone who can always keep me informed on basically whatever I need, keep it up! Also, why is it that double WF would be good? If the offhand WF proc does less damage and you want it to happen less what’s the point of using WF anyways?
you say "by the time you needed to cast 100 spells you will be now capable of casting 99 spells" its 101 :o
You see me stuntin', I keep on smokin', your girl I'm pokin', ain't jokin', man! Stunt101! -fiDDy(cenT)
2:25:30 I think the reasoning for reducing the base cast time of the spells was to make it less painful to use them without the talent, either due to being below level 40 or being resto/enhance.
Good point. Trust me, farming as Resto in classic vanilla is terrible
@@DefcampMelderonTV Haha yep can confirm as someone who heals raids and doesn't respec often.
@@blastoise7788 yup, that's me
Yup, this is exactly why they changed it.
For resto, always remember, you're not the only healer. Don't put it on your shoulders.
Beeen waitin on this for awhile now!
Get that ele guide out ASAP sir! Lol ty for all you do
the wf/ft is interesting considering that from the start there will be 1.5 oh fist weapons from gladiator to get so we might see some people trying it out early
this is extremely professional and high quality, wish u played my class
Great work Melderon & Defcamp, you're very good hearted to be honest... salute from Egypt
When you have 1% haste, instead of casting 100 spells, you cast 101* not 99...
This video is amazing! Really enjoyed the Enhancement imbued weapon section!
By the way, this might be anecdotal but after doing a bunch of 1x runs in Pservers, 1-39 is just as slow as classic but once you hi 40 DW Enhancement leveling rate just skyrockets even with level 25 weapons. Because im a weirdo i leveled 2 shamans in Atlantiss and even with the lowest dps weapons for your level its really hard to compete with the clear speed of DW enhancement leveling. Love the video!
- It's very often correct/better to NS+Chain Heal instead of NS+Healing Wave. Definitely make sure you have both macroed (put any +healing on-use trinkets in the macro as well). If there's lots of aoe damage and multiple people are very low it's better to get multiple people out of the danger zone than to get one guy to very high hp. Not to mention you're less likely to step on another healer's toes that way.. less likely for kneejerk overhealing to occur.
- Earth shield usage was very briefly covered but it is good to get used to using it on targets other than the tanks, as many times it is more effective in that way. Basically any encounter with aoe spells going off it's usually better to have it on a healer. Or if healing isn't too much of an issue put it on a caster to help their dps, preferably one that doesn't have as much pushback resistance. Most memorable fight for special earth shield usage for me would be Hex Lord in Zul'Aman, for the spirit bolts phase you NEED the earth shield on yourself because the pushback on that is brutal. Also earth shield doesn't really heal for that much compared to the rest of your healing, so the tank not having it for a fight isn't always a huge deal. It just helps a little bit.
- From what I remember Aldor/Scryer basically doesn't matter for ele or resto. If you're going tailoring as either of those specs the healing leg enchant is aldor and the damage one is scryer. Not a big deal since you can buy these or get a guildie to craft it but y'know, convenience. If you're enhance and you want to play the long game you go Aldor because the Aldor version of the Shattered Sun Pendant is much better than the Scryer. All that said unless there's a really good reason to go Aldor I always just go Scryer. Better tier location in Shatt and Arcane Tomes always end up being a bit cheaper than Fel Armaments.
Amazing video. I am looking forward to check FT with fast offhand viability. In raid environment, Fire damage is buffed because of Curse of Elements and mages scorch debuff. Adding Flame Cap to the mix (shares cd with Dark Rune and is way better use of this cd) can provide interesting results, maybe even change of meta.
Amazing video, can't believe how in-depth it is. Any chance of getting the slideshow to peruse?
Im thinking of ditching shadow priest for TBC and going ele shaman good video.
This Guide is absolutely amazing. That´s what I was searching for! Thank you very much. You came across many many important points to understand shaman in TBC. I´m still missing on Inforamtion about the blacksmith Hammer Dragonmaw/Dragonstrike. Everyone is talking about Axes for e.g. Orcs but this Weapon should be on the radar for an enhancement Shaman for sure and it would have been nice to see some data and combinations for this Hammer aswell, but I will place this question in the Discord you mentioned. Keep up the great work!
Enhancement specific guide veeeeery soon
@@DefcampMelderonTV I’m also looking for more details about these weap!
As a baby shaman player that has only played aly this was amazing, thank you so much!
Thanks for another fantastic guide. The amount of work you put into these videos are insane!
if u decide to lvl as elemental for whatever reason, there is neat trick u can use once u get eye of the storm talent (on taken crit 6sec of pushback immunity).
Basically u pull mob with 2 or 3 lighting bolts and just about when mob is atop of you hit /sit macro, eat crit and force eye talent proc. Immediately proceed with 2 more uninterruptible lighting bolts to finish up mob. repeat if mob is still alive. With bit of practice u can work this into fluid movement that's not much different from uninterrupted bolt spam.
Fun fact. back in TBC, every time u casted Water shield. the timer on the mp5 reset. so you could spam water shield to get mana every cast. used to do that alot in arenas.
There's a big problem with recommending totem twisting in TBC groups. Its that it means your wanting ENH to burst their skulls during progression grouping when there is a much, much, much easier way to min max - drop the melee dps. Use a Hunter and GoA.
You won't have a bench like that in 99% of guilds. Most guilds will run a similar comp throughout classic TBC, considering it will be easier than private servers. Honestly, if you can't progress with a dedicated melee group, there are deeper problems than totem twisting
@@DefcampMelderonTV That's a reasonable argument, except we just witnessed Classic Vanilla, which has pretty much shown how the players are gonna hit things. There's gonna be one ENH and he will be in the Hunter group.
But the Raid thing really is the secondary concern with this overemphasis on Twisting. Its creating an expectation for twisting in progression instances which should not exist and indeed an ENH being compelled to Twist in progression instances is being exploited.
Twisting through a boss encounter to get the edge is a fun and fulfilling demonstration of skill. Twisting through progression instances is a draining and pointless exercise in self flagelation.
WHAT AN AMAZING VIDEO!!
Thank you!
Defcamp & Melderon TV incredible work! thank you. Any chance I can get my hands on that thumbnail pic?
Interestingly the 33% spell damange from healing gear was no actually in TBC from launch. It was something that was added to help healers deal with killing their mob in the Leotheras fight in SSC.
Hello! Great in-depth guide. Is there any Equivalent Point (EP) addon/weakaura for TBC for easy in-game comparisons?
Earth Elemental value decreases if the "taunt" is not a warrior taunt but a flat threat amount. But there's some speculation that it snapshots the Shaman's stamina, meaning you can build a stamina set, totem place, swap out gear and the Earth Ele keeps the Stamina. The same possibility with Fire Ele but we don't "really" know with what it scales. Gift of the Naaru if it is truly 100% scaling will incentivise the person casting the first Gift on the tank to get a mass +healing set, since it could possibly snapshot. Spirit Weapon is not necessary for dungeon tanking, its mostly picked up in Raid tanking and it's threat reduce is completely rectified with the plethora of threat-aggro reducers present in a raid, mitigation is more of a focus in raids. I have to do more testing, but as Enh sham dps we might look to use Flame Shock as the primary Shock until Flame Buffet drops off.
that gift of naaru racial tip about it being school-less is actually huge.
Zuglife's attack hits you for 1,200
Gift of the Naaru heals you for 220
Zuglife's mortal strike hits you for 2,000
You die
True. I remember using it to bait interrupts in arena so I could cast nature uninterrupted.
Wow this is a great guide as a enhancment shaman, Mel what do you think about BS weapons as a orc is the bs axe better then the mace with 200 haste proc?
If hunters are going for wolfslayer then how would their utilize bloodlust with the SS rotation? do they macro in another weapon?
You're welcome! Theorycrafting is its own reward!
I still have a copy of the old enhancement simulator, would you like a copy?
Hey Melderon, are there any space for enhancement shaman with 21 points in elemental tree for Elemental Fury talent, boosting your damage?
I was thinking about sacrificing Shamanistic Rage and Dual Wild Spec talent points to improve 100% your shock damage crits.
Can you actually find the mana sustain in long fights with mana potions, mana totens, water shield and Shamanistic and Elemental Focus talents without shamanistic rage?
The Hit Rating points you could actually try to find with itenmization...
I was just wondering about it!!
Thanks for your videos, I really like the way you do your in-depth guides!
Cheers from Brazil!
Really cool. I'm torn between Paladin (my typical main for years now), Shaman, or Hunter for TBC Classic.
Very tough choices. I’m enjoying playing shaman right now gearing up for TBC cuz it’s a class I never got to play
Hey Melderon, I kinda couldn't find any updated info on that, regarding bis and the list you guys provide, now being it a ceratin thing that BS Mace will be Main Hand. So does the bis list change in any way for Enhancement Shamans weaponwise?
great vedeo, but there are 2 thinks so far that i remember differently: my grounding totem could get multible spells, fox example when i was in the tank grp in Mount hyjal and i placed it , all casts of the banshes where suked in by the totem. And the grounding totem was still pulsing, it pulses the first time when you placed it, but after this every few seconds. Whit this at archimonde you were still in the fear for some seconds. This is at leas what i remeber playing restoration schaman at the time.
Yeah it may be true that the server coded it wrong I will for sure check in part 2
*Congrats, you now have a degree in Shammy*
Seems I am not prepared.. imma have to come back once I understand shamy better! But here, have a like and a comment!!
"Probly 100+ hours I've put into this" I wouldn't expect any less from you, Melderon.
It is time!
I have a question - is there an addon that converts EP values of items live in the game and shows you the EP score? and also lets you input your own EP values? would be extremely popular if it did exist
@1:36:25 I think there's a bit of misinterpretation here and I've been seeing it more often as TBC nears. This issue was discussed in EJ deep dive. I don't think it's considered a bug (can't find any Blizz confirmation of it though). It's simply a result of how the math works out. It's not exactly that DW has a higher chance to proc Windfury. What's happening is that due to all one-handers having speeds below 3 seconds, you will always have swings that could have procced Windfury, but were ultimately ineligible due to being inside the 3-second ICD window. The 36% came from looking at only those hits that were eligible to proc Windfury in the first place. When looking at all hits regardless of eligibility, the proc rate was approximately 20%. 36% was simply the OBSERVED proc rate when controlling for hits that couldn't proc to begin with.
From the EJ deep dive:
"Analysis of the combat log shows that if you sum all hits, the proc rate while DWing is 20%, but that includes hits you make while inside the 3 second cooldown, which cannot actually proc WF. When you remove the ineligible hits the observed proc rate from the eligible hits becomes 36%."
A follow-up test would be to analyze what happens when wielding a 2-handed weapon with a speed below 3.0 seconds.
In the enhancement rota you said you can be lucky to get at ES onto SS debuff, but i think if you want to play really well you should defnitly let the elemental shaman gain that 20% nature dmg since it will much more help the raid dps.
Error at 2:11:25 regarding grace of air totem agi-to-RAP ---> in TBC 1 agility becomes 1 RAP, not 2 like in classic
Actually 1 agility becomes 1 RAP + 1 MAP (for hunters)
Still extremely powerful to hunters - skilled its 88.5 agility. So synergywise your sv hunter will give around 28 more Raid-AP to your physical dps with that (with +10% from kings and +15% sv talents )
So when questing as ele, do you use flametongue weapon and switch to melee if mobs don't die before reaching you?
Is there any guide to recommend proffesions? I am debeating leatherwork+ Skinning vs alchmy and herbalism
Came for the thumbnail, stayed for the guide
Question, does Nature's Guardian proc on damage aura's like Sapphirons? or the marks from 4 Horsemen in classic?
you mention the change to Rockbiter at about 56 minutes, but the main reason they did this was to reduce its potency for dual wielding, prior to this change you couldn't use 2, and with WF having an internal CD of 3 seconds it would be FAR better to have rock biter on the offhand so it would work its way back to the mainland that triggers your big WF procs. (also with the new talents you would have to put rockbiter on both weapons to boost your AP and therefor spellpower when attacking bosses that do massive AOE for short periods of time (like barron geddon)
I love these guides, but I just wanted to point out how hard it is to distinguish between the different lines on your line graphs as a colorblind person. Keep up the good work though!
@12:01 Shouldn't that be "in the time it would take to cast 100 spells, you can now cast 101"?
Yup, that's a typo. It should say in the time it takes to cast 99 you can now cast 100. Good catch. I put this in the errata under the timestamps in the pinned comment
@@DefcampMelderonTV Thanks alot for all the effort! Amazing video
@@shonen245 Nope, now you're the guy who ruined his perfect video. There is no way out! :b
@@Benrage321 u u G. I pppppp
@@DefcampMelderonTV That doesn't seem right either. With 100% haste, you cast twice as fast. So you would be casting 200 spells in the time it would normally take to cast 100 spells. The way you just said it, it would mean that with 100% haste, in the time it takes to cast 0 spells, you can now cast 100.
I wonder if fire nova countdown is coded as a pseudo reverse cast in the same way how a spell deals more damage as 3 seconds compared to 2 seconds where as magma and searing are channel and short casts.
Maybe that's why it gets more? Unless Im not thinking right lol
very interesting theory!!!!
Can anybody help me, what UI addon is presented on the screenshot at 2:55:09 ? I want to install something similar to that. Thanks!
that looks like Xperl. I personally use Luna
Any conslusion how is the current beta tuning for double WF vs WF + FT ?
When all parts of "Advanced Shaman Guide" are out, it will take longer to watch than Lord of The Rings trilogy extended edition. 😃
Where'd you find the art for the draenei in the thumbnail? Sauce please!
2:53:30 Just passing this along from the Ele Shaman discord, but the Aldor shoulder enchants are better than Scryers shoulder enchants for Ele Shaman with the way we scale with SP vs. Crit. If you don’t plan on running JC for the Sunfire neck either the Aldor buff from the Shattered Sun offensive neck absolutely shits on the Scryers one. Keep Calm and Pick Aldor EleBros.
Is the Draenei shaman gonna be available pre-launch or am I going to have to level it 1 to 58 the moment the portal opens?
Are we getting an Ele Sham vid? Ty for all your hard work💚
In the works
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I can't wait to spam this to all the Shamans who keep asking for a good Guide. Thank You for the hard work and this amazing Video.(I'm only a quart of the way through and it's making me want to play Shaman so bad.)
tell me about it! I have a lvl 60 shaman ready incase i bend over to the urge. but im probably still going to go druid. but i will have the shaman as an alt. love your vids too Crix! great to have you guys creating content :)
@@johanlahti84 Thanks.! Glad we can help.!
wish there was more info about elemental
About the rockbiter. I think I know why, could would have to ask a few questions. Although with those few questions I bet you can find out why lol.
If rockbiter adds flat dps now, does it do it just for that main hand? Or does it do it for both? It could be seen as OP if it adds it like that.
If it does add the dps to both, the OP thing could be a weird meta, with a good main hand, with a very slow off hand. Increasing your attack power by... well.. a fuckton. As remember, the slower in classic the weapon was, the more attack power it granted. So could see some weird play with a fast main hand with WF, and slow Off-hand. As we know, Windfury does scale with Rockbiter even in classic wow as seen with "Imbued weaving".
or maybe just you know, WF MH, and Rockbiter OF.
Or last idea, Maybe, Rockbiter with attack power was too OP for pvp. Think of it. 2 very slow MH and OF, gaining massive dmg. It would almost be like duel-wielding 2 handed weapons, and stormstrike would just wreck them.
The reason WF/FT DPS is more variable than WF/WF is because WF crits proc Flurry. FT does not proc Flurry, meaning the Flurry buff will more frequently fall off and reduce DPS with WF/FT. Your data is interesting because it suggests at higher item levels of crit/hit rating, the range of WF/FT damage will probably start to coalesce at the higher end because the extra offhand WF attacks are needed less to maintain consistent Flurry. The bonus spell damage with FT will also be higher with greater iLevel (as a proportion of its damage), meaning WF/FT will probably consistently outstrip WF/WF as gear progresses.
Very good point that I totally missed. And yeah very interesting stuff. Ofc the white portion of the offhand swing can still proc flurry but you would have more Flurry consistence with the extra attacks
can anyone point me in the right direction for a hybrid shaman, enhanc/ele build inc gear. I know its not optimal but its fun, cannot seem to find much on it for tbc. thank you
while leveling does the EP value of expertise double?
1st good job on ur guides Meld realy well done!!2nd They definitely need to reduce number o tp points for unrelenting storm in ele tree so we can get full benefit from that talent!!and in general there are a lot of tps that needs to be buff or nerf or even change!!what u think about this Meld???
Yeah I agree, not having full benefit of that sucks for sure. I don't think Blizz put a ton of thought into what talent builds would look like at end game. I don't think they will change talents at all but a keen observation
@@DefcampMelderonTV but they need to do some changes not just to throw us an old game and pay to play like classic!!on the opposite that old game needs changes
@@koullis901 I do agree with you but I just don't see them doing it. At least not until the game has run its course like they did with Classic. I think they need player feedback which they won't have until they have actual player experience as we are seeing now with Classic
@@DefcampMelderonTV then give em streamer feedback😉😉blizzard hears streamers👌👌make a vid about what changes would u like to see in tbc😉😉👌👌
I have Kara final boss axe as main hand and Runic Hammer as off hand. Can you please tell me should I go WF/WF or WF/FT?
1:52:40 does this data include flurry? How does that and other dynamic haste alter the dps comparison of WFWF and WFFT?
If not you'd almost expect WFFT to outperform double WF in real raid situations where various haste effects are being used
So, tbc classic is live - did they keep the increased WF wep proc chance with double WF wep?
On advanced and new stats you have an error on your slide, in the time it would take you to cast 100 spells normally, 1% haste should yield 101 spells but you put 99 spells
Yup, it's in the errata on the pinned combat. Thanks
Earth and fire elemental totems don’t share a cooldown. Unless he meant they have the same length of cooldown which is both 20 mins yes but they are two separate cooldowns. You can use one and while it’s on cooldown still have the other available to use. Also Unleashed Rage is 10% AP buff not 6%. Shamanistic Rage once 70 and even before in some descent blues will actually almost always regenerate your entire mana bar. Amazing, amazing, amazing talent. Water shield, mana spring totem, mental quickness, shamanistic focus, and shamanistic rage all combined make Enhancements mana issues nearly go away completely. Especially once well geared and in a raid environment you will have mana for days.
what's the windfury/twisting weakaura/addon?
Error on Race/Faction Trolls slide. The Troll racial of spirit effects HEALTH not mana
Yeah that's what I said correct? Or is the text wrong
Yup, I said Mana then health I'll add it to the errata
Did we ever get data clarifying if the 36%/20% WF bug was copied to classic?
Is windfury normalized in tbc like mortal strike? if u have 3.6speed 2h with 100 dps and and 3.8speed 2h with 100 dps would windfury dmg be same or would 3.8 be higher?
My theory crafting for leveling!
Be a beast shaman, and get a 40 man raid right when TBC releases, and have 600 tokens to turn in for EXP.
Proffit.
Although, in all seriousness, disappointed by the cooldown of windfury. Double windfury was insane.