Talking to a REAL JoJo Animator (ft. Ken Arto) | Trash Taste #36
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Hello to the community of Trash Taste !
It's Ken from the video.
It's seems like people really enjoyed the video, and I'm really glad to see that !
Thank you for your kind reception and also to be indulgent with my English ^^
I'll keep doing my best, for giving you a good animation in lot of shows :)
See you !
very interesting to hear from you ❤️ thank you for your hard work!
Omg, I am loving jujutsu kaisen and love all of the shows you've worked on. Love your work and thank you for going on trash taste
Yes thank you and bless you for giving us good animation quality
We appreciate you man! Remember that. Keep working with passion and wish you success!
You where an awesome guest in this podcast, and thank you for explaining how the anime industry works.
I KNOW IT WAS PART 5 SOMETIMES YOUR BRAIN FUCKS UP AND SAYS 4
Bruh
-i
Hey Connor what was artstyle for magnetic rose
Monke Brain strikes again
Man I haven't reached that part but I forgive u
Animator: gets death threats
Animator: "I don't have time to die i'm too busy!"
Also Animator: "jokes on you I already am....ᴵᶠ ᴵ ᵈᵒⁿ'ᵗ ᶠᶦⁿᶦˢʰ ᵗʰᵉˢᵉ ᶠʳᵃᵐᵉˢ ᵇʸ ᵗᵒᵐᵒʳʳᵒʷ"
Warhammer reference
@@leogazebo5290 THANK YOU!
ah yes the staple Goge Van Dire reference
@@flybybullets he needed to finish his emperor x sanguinius fanfic
Everyone’s gangsta until the credits for the animation roll and it only has one name
this right here
XD
what ep of a anime just one hella man animated?
@@Itsyowoo Ex Arm lmaoooo
@@harismhmmd LMFAOOO
Connor is basically our exposition character... Needs explaining on everything, so we learn as well...
Facts
A few episodes back this could be the case of "self-insertion" in hentai they were talking about, but this time on a podcast lmao
Thank you Connor 🙏
Definitely more efficient than all of us having to individually research it all.
TLDR; Connor is Speedwagon of Trash Taste
"Talking to a REAL JoJo animator"
Connor has entered the chat.
A turtle has approved this chat entrance
*Connor has entered the podcast*
nice avatar
XD
Connor be like you sir have 110% of my attention
موجود بكل حلقة يا رضوان هههه
“You don’t live, you survive” really puts into perspective the unfair pay. Especially when you’ve got mad anime fans threatening animators on Twitter
cough, aot fandom, cough
@@Microecinae the company is to blame, not the animators
@@Spirit_Circle The fandom sucks
@@nicolasgallardo2863 no it doesn't
@@nicolasgallardo2863 yeah the fandom sucks that is the reason isayama is a millionaire . right???
Somebody get literally every animator a patreon god damn
Too bad they can't even get that
I think because of their contract to the studio or something like that
I have read of
@@bapponoflacko THATS SO STUPID. ITS LIKE THEY WANT THEM TO BE UNDERPAID TO EXPLOIT THEM FFS
Patreon is not available here.
@@babassoonist557 it is, what are you talking about ô_ô
Japan is weird man
They keep things old fashioned, specially when it comes to economy, ita really hard to understand.
You can see some people doing things like patreon (Like Rapparu, one of the called web gen animators), and some crowdfunded stuff, but its so rare. All we can do is to support them directly when possible.
Everytime he uses a technical term Connor goes:
"I like your funny word magic man"
haha
this comment is underrated
Monke brain time
Thats so cute
Hehehe yes
Everybody who speaks multiple languages will understand the struggle mr. Arto is going through in this episode. Props to him man, speaks French and Japanese but still can express himself in english
Lol, I only know my native language Filipino and English and this guy is much better than me. I sometimes, no, always forgot my native language.
i wouldnt say that speaking 3 languages at good level is kinda hard or something
Garnt and Joey also speak multiple languages. Yes, the struggle. That's most of the world speaking multiple languages.
@@mq9demo Connor too
@@aqxbjc5879 Right, I forgot about that. Exactly :)
As someone lacking a real passion, I always admire people like Ken. It's so nice to listen to them sharing their emotions about their aspirations. And he is so humble about it. Very pleasant talk. Thank you for the spotlight. Well done, everyone!
Try finding a woman. It sounds superficial but for me after finding a girl I liked my motivation sky rocketed 1000x
@@jasonlee7928 I am a woman (so that search ended quickly) and I don't think my mediocre passion is a problem that needs fixing. I am quite content. I just wanted to express my admiration for a way of living quite different from my own. Thanks for the advice though. You have good intentions and cared enough to comment. Have a good one and all the best for your relationship. She seems to be a real keeper!
I think talking with people with similar passion as you could become a motivation for your lack of passion cause you and the person can express your idea with one and another. At least that's for me, but it's really hard for finding people with similar things as you do.
@@jasonlee7928 jesus christ.... not looking forward for when she inevitably leaves you cus she is your whole world, the most unnattractive thing a woman can find in a man
@@dorriebanana4983 Oh, don't worry, you are woman, you are incapable of being passionate about something that isn't You, and also don't have hobbies. Good luck!
Thank you for sharing this , I am animator for pokemon anime and I'm happy to learn more about anime industry from this video
Really, how is it?
Oh damn
How do you do?
@@rio486 My man asking for leaks lmao.
Talking about anime*
Connor: I sleep
Talking with JoJo animator*
Connor: Real Shit!
Connor talkin about Jojo: Woke As Fuck, Real Shit!, Only Chads Allowed
Hello Jesus
Ohhh boy this gonna be in the reddit
Monke sleep monke wake up
jojo is trash
His accent is an interesting blend of French and Japanese.
Like it wasn't obvious
Hmmm the ground here is made of ground
His accent sounds so pleasing to me tbh
Hmm this guy from x country have an accent of x country... Interesting
@@silo4762 I think he meant that it was interesting to listen too, since its very unique. First time I've heard that kind of blended accents which is cool.
I love how the title implies there are fake jojo animators
Still animation
@@naiknaik8812 but not jojo's animators
@@thomasmurrell9394 have you seen disco ballad, they definitely should be a jjba animator
He is incredible as a guest. The language barrier is non-existent, he is so calm and personable, confident, funny. I hate when people who get guests that are too quiet and hardly talk, this guy fit in like another one of the boys
I want to see his opinion on the animation in the critically acclaimed EX-arm
Yeah man they missed an opportunity god damn it
Ain't no fun to get an animator to sh*t on other animators, is it?
But yeh they do briefly mention Nanatsu no Taizai season 3 though.
I don't feel like an animator would diss other animators and especially when the new animators haven't worked on a single series.
@@bestpriest2224 yeah same , also it would be rude. This is japan not USA where there are no rules and boundaries.
@@bestpriest2224 yeh, u know someone out there’s gonna find some frame he animated in the past that wasn’t up to scratch and shit on him for it. Best not to call out anyone and be called a hypocrite etc
This man was a gift to the show.
hoenstly
I'm the 1000 like
Where do you buy them want to get one and gift them to my friend
3:40 - I kept wondering why this guy has a French English accent. Strange combo.
Wait hol up your here
yo ... my man a fellow trash taste gang
Do not think I'd see you here lol.
I thought it was like french-japanese accent
My mentor is also a JoJo fan?
It seems like Japanese animators are in desperate need of a union.
True, but I don’t think will happen. These jobs have already been outsourced to other countries like Philippines, China which are impossible too regulate.
@@jsus159 wait what do you mean by outsourced, and why it is impossible to regulate?
@@thecoc8746 It means they will hire people from other countries. Japan can't regulate other countries so if they set a minimum price per frame Animation studios will just hire people from Philippines , China, Thailand were the cost of living is lower than Japan.
@@jsus159 damn... That's quite sad actually
@@jsus159 typical cheap labor tactics. Company greed should be regulated by the government.
The fact that he's only been in the industry for five years and yet he's been involved in some of the biggest anime of recent years is seriously impressive. Not a single project he's worked on hasn't been hugely successful, goddamn.
Exactly! Man just talks casually about being a part of probably the two biggest anime movies of the decade and has been in the industry in only five years
I mean, not to undermine his work, I love Ken Arto's animations, but right now there's a shortage of animators in the japanese animation industry, mostly because japanese beginners are turned off by the impossibility to live off of that job (underpaid + overworked as fuck) and most studios are desperate to get any decent artist on their productions (hell, there's some youtubers who were contacted to get into a production even though they didn't know how to draw)
Outsourcing is huge in the japanese industry, you could say at this point the industry lives off of it as most of the anime episodes you've ever seen have been for the most part outsourced to cheap chinese and korean studios
@@gian.4388 I know someone who got contacted to work on animes.
@@gian.4388 wait even tho they dont know how to draw they still get recruited? where can i sign up?
@@tommyblade8093 assuming you can somehow move to Japan, studio wit is legitimately paying to train people into the industry. Good luck, there's reasons why a big medium doesn't have a sustainable work force.
Garnt with another guest: I REIGN SUPREME!
anime protag and all his friends
This should just be tradition.
A canon Garnt hosting episode
They were defeated in a tournament arc that we've never seen
And Connor having the returning guests
It would be really fucking cool if they had a mangaka on the podcast
They'd have to be fluent in English.
@@babywolf4238 there must be at least one i guess
@S. There's also the mangaka behind metamorphosis who joey interviewed. Maybe the rest of the boys might have questions?
@@Artwolf007 Shindol
@S. what's his channel name?
I appreciate the transparency in this! Ken seems like such a nice and talented guy... like what a heart. I want animators to be paid a living wage, because they work so damn hard.
This didn't feel like a trash taste episode. It felt like an interview which is kinda nice. I like how this podcast can be everything at once
When the guest is an expert you look up to, it do be hits different 😳😳😳
@@derrilazkia1002 ikr its always great when they have a guest!
the only way i knew it was a trash taste episode was when they mention shitting
I mean one of the trash taste episodes was literally them driving cars lmao
Connor is trying his best not to be a massive fanboy
Would've been fun to see
Connor: Yes.... I am!
TRueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Dude, imagine him meeting Araki. I think he would disintegrate.
But then again, so would I
whatever works, mate.
Connor would vibrate at such a high speed that he’d phase through physical objects.
He got such a soothing accent and voice. The mix of French and Japanese is so nice to listen to, and him talking so calmly is really nice.
I'm an art instructor from the Philippines. Here's why anime is frowned upon quite frequently.
It's because most art profs want art students to pursue studying the fundamentals of figure drawing which is realism or drawing the human figure in it's realistic form. Because once you master the anatomy, that's when you can explore stylizing or creating other styles such as comic book, anime, cartoons, etc.
I always put it this way, Think of drawing as a making a dough for baking and the bread,cakes and other pastries are the different art styles. You cannot jump from baking a cookie to baking a cake immediately. You have to master making the dough first before venturing out to other stuff you can bake (art styles.)
Where do you work? There are no art schools near my place here in the philippines, It sounds like I can learn more in this art school than where I am right now
But realism is different from learning fundamentals, body positioning, symmetry..., realism can be considered a style in it self
@@spring3281 realism is fundamental because that is where all other art forms derive their style form. When the first person drew an anime man who was his inspiration? A chicken? No idiot, obviously a real man
not a great comparison, bread dough is completely different from cake batter or even cookie dough, knowing how to make bread dough won't help with cookies, and cookies won't help with cakes...
@@okhappiness4773 yeah completely agree, however it did get its point across
dawg, animators are seriously underpaid. can’t stand seeing genuine people like this getting underpaid for the massive amount of top tier work they produce.
Waifu merchandise is the real money maker. That's why they keep making harem show in hopes something explode. Limited edition 999$ blonde tsundere always sold out.
@@BearMeOut in the pre-order phase too. They don't even know half the time they'll actually get it but the peace of mind of them getting it, is worth it.
@@BearMeOut True dat. Very few franchises can manage like Pokemon or Hello Kitty where main selling point is not B I G T I T T I E S.
It sucks that they get paid little for their hard work, but on the other hand if they got paid 50% more, let's say, that comes around to us, the consumer. Streaming services will cost more, blu-rays will cost more, etc. And I don't know about you personally, but if you're like many anime fans and only pirate anime then it's not fair to say animators should be paid more when you don't even support the product. Again, not saying this is anyone in particular, just some anime fans in general.
They are so underpaid it’s cost average 2 million usd and they barely get paid like 1% of that right now
He didn't have the time to even say three words that my french accent detector activated.
I didn't know a french guy worked on so many big titles, that's sick !
I was literally thinking that he sounded really French.
Same. It's so weird the french accent is so recognisable accross so many languages.
@@rohitramkumar5525 I think he's french, or maybe belgian? But he has made videos with french youtubers :)
On le retrouve dans deux vidéos de Japania à propos de l'animation japonaise, je me disais bien l'avoir vu déjà quelque part.
This dude has the most French-Japanese English accent I’ve heard in my life lmao
Animators, especially people like this deserve a lot more money
I love how they don,t just drop generic interview questions,they have a genuine friendly conversation.
Animators: Low pay AF, Overtime every night, Depressed
AOT Fans: LOL Death Threat Go Brrrrr
twitter gave these people a voice. twitter was a mistake
That’s a pretty broad accusation tho I feel like that’s a pretty small minority that’s being super vocal
Cringe
@@peetsaman8889 agreed. I hope they know that it's the vocal minority and most are enjoying their work!
@@peetsaman8889 ye it’s just the minority
Timestamps
●Intro●
0:01 preview
0:25 Garnt's intro
0:50 Ken Arto's introduction
●Ken studying animation●
3:45 Ken getting into anime
6:22 Garnt's first anime
8:15 Keigo
11:08 Ken studying animation
12:25 manga style being looked down upon in art school
●the japanese way of animating●
14:43 the japanese way and the disney way
15:22 about the Japanese Industry
17:53 the animation process
23:42 One man army
●Ken becoming an animator●
25:42 Ken moving to Japan
27:42 Express vpn ad
29:30 back to the episode, Ken's first internship
30:20 Key and in-between frames
34:36 Ken at summer school
●Animator questions for Ken●
37:36 reacting to you own work
39:38 Working on Dbs:Super
●How much an animator makes●
43:22 Ken after his internships
44:00 being paid per frame
●life as an animator●
49:43 needing passion for animating
53:08 why Ken wanted to animate in Japan instead of the west
54:38 Speaking Japanese is important
56:47 hitting the 30s
58:07 honey ad
59:36 back to the episode, how Ken stays healthy
●Animation quality●
1:02:38 drawing faster
1:02:57 why animation can be bad
1:07:04 super animators
●Web-gen animators●
1:08:13 looking for new talents
1:10:13 How Japan started to work with foreign animators
1:11:51 the best way to get into the anime industry
1:12:33 Ken's life outside of being an animator
1:13:55 getting a salary without a contract
●Backlash on animaters●
1:16:38 Ken's opinion on Backlash
●Ken's work●
1:20:14 The ip gets likes
1:21:00 Ken working on Jojo
1:24:23 all anime is dubbed
1:25:10 referencing manga
●Questions for Ken●
1:26:48 Ken didn't know the dragonball movie was about Broly
1:27:52 Ken's favourite anime
1:28:43 amazing anime scenes & Kon Satoshi
1:32:10 legendary animation
1:34:36 paper and digital animation
1:38:24 work changing how you see anime
1:40:36 legendary animators
1:43:15 Anime Ken wished he could've worked on
1:44:21 denying a job because of your schedule
1:45:21 What Ken hopes to work on in the future
1:47:14 Ken's podcast & the outro
Hello there
Thanks very much, was searching for this
thank you
Merci
Thanks mate
im glad connor is here. hes a stand in for all of us who know close to nothing about this stuff and needs it to be explained
I swear I just watch these now for the sponsored adverts. It's like entering an alternate dimension where the the Trash Taste team are doing everything with a gun to their heads.
Imagine being underpaid by doing a heavy amount of work, even risking their own lives to give us entertainment, and still get death threats to suffer to just because people are not satisfied with a little change in art style
Animators deserve respect!
Better yet, deserve better working conditions.
Fr they did a rlly good job bringing a real animator to share his experience. Really changes the perspective of people
The studio had to be blame, not the animators/ workers. Mappa boss should get the shit. Same as other company, such as jeff bezos get shitted because of underpayed their employees. don't defend the company/boss, defend the worker!
@@dendenmushi5458 I don't think the studios make that much money either. Many season 2s don't happen because it is deemed unprofitable.
@@shadowefeX make a season2 of a popular series with million of fan waiting for s2 or make a new anime that no one know? Just a filler of seasonal anime that you had to scroll down to find? Hmm where the money at huh?
I'm not surprised if they ended up getting Araki-sensei himself as a guest on the podcast
5head pro gamer move if that happens
3 Jojo fans in a room with Araki would be like apeshit jojo brainrot, (tho they should be cautious since Araki is old after all)
Man, Araki didn't age
@@lele_lokal2507 he uses Hamon
Garnt even got the Author of Domestic Kanojo on the Studio but not in the podcast, but im sure it's possible
It kinda boils my blood seing reaction channels doing way more money than actual animators. And lets be honest reaction doesn't require any effort.
I just realized this...the f.
It requires lots of effort, like being annoying, fucking braindead, just say what the hell happened in the clip, use that red background thingy etc etc
@@IonicBonding2468 😔
Dude, these CZcamsrs who make zero efforts are making more money than actual REAL jobs like being a doctor in some countries. These people can end world hunger and solve famine but they only care about getting money for themselves.
@@IonicBonding2468 😂 true
You should try to get Murase Ayumu on the show, it would be great to have a VA on and he'd be perfect because he speaks English and Joey's worked with him in the past.
7 months later in the future...
Congrats, your suggestion came true. The lads had interviewed Ms. Uchida. Not Murase exactly but a voice actress nonetheless.
It still blows my mind how many stories I hear of people getting looked down on for liking & drawing Anime/Manga, so glad I never went to any art school.
I don't where you are from but in Europe this is veeeery common
It has a reason though. In order to be able to simplify real life, you first need the fundamentals, and many people coming into art school think that they can draw anime right away without fundamental knowledge and call their lazy attempt an "artstyle" while in reality they do it just because it's somewhat simplee with less detail that they wouldn't be able to add in anyways.
@@Cavi587 i think they mean, even with fundamental knowledge being put into an anime artstyle, it would still get ridiculed.
@@pixiepearl2783 you can't really put all fundamental knowledge into anime since it is a very confined style , so not really, you can put kowledge (was just using your term), but you cant use it fully through application
@@pixiepearl2783 Possibly yes, but you go to art school to learn. Most people going fresh to art school will most definitely be taught the fundamentals for a very long time at first before getting into more personal projects. But even then, in order for the teachers to test your knowledge and skill, you must create pieces that revolve around these fundamentals, and a simplified style is not fit for that. I guess what I mean is that art school isn't a place for your own style, that's what you do at home. You take all the things that you've learned at art school and put them into your own style, even if it's simplified or cartoonish.
Ken looks like Japanese Chuck Norris in his Walker days.
Oh shit he does 😂
I think he looks like that one Beatles cover with Paul mcarthey
@@greendro6410 INDEED
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🤣🤣🤣
Half japanese Keanu Reeves
Not gonna lie but French and Japanese accents together is so good
1.5 Asian men, 1.5 European men, and half an Australian what a combo
You need to count its 2 asian men
3.5 people in the room 🤔
@@jasonlee7928 no, 1.5 asians and 2 europeans. Garnt and the animator are half euro and half asian, connor is full euro, and joey is half australian and half asian. 1.5 asians, 2 europeans and 0.5 aussies.
@@corurachi7054 when i wrote this i didn't know it but honestly i'd still argue that living in britain for most of his life makes him half european and half thai.
@@bonogiamboni4830 inb4 brexit
Imagine this. 20 years from now The Boys are still going strong, they are supper famous and Ken comes to them again. First they watch this "old" video. Laugh about how young they were. And then Ken will tell them that animators in Japan are still fucking underpaid.
Fuck this is too dark for the anime industry man
LMAO
Bruh
and that his wife left him cause he's stuck at work most of the time.
Possible that their teenage children will watch how vulgar their parents were.
These Trash Taste episodes really make my day.
SAME.
Ngl the best and most wholesome podcast to me
Man this used to be me idk what's happening, I think it's Joey's fault lol.
Connor is carrying it for me
true
@@seasesh4073 u what
This guy’s accent is really cool! Mostly French with touches of Japanese thrown in at seemingly random intervals
Thanks for this guys, getting the perspective and stories of a real life animator on how the industry works and the general behind the scenes is incredibly fascinating.
Omg he's half French half Japanese and he was comfortable going on an English podcast, that's awesome
chad boi
because that's where he will get the most respect
this is the community he belongs to
Why is it being made out as such a big deal why would he feel uncomfortable on an English podcast?
@@absolutescotsman9597 People can't be impressed with someone being trilingual?
@@ver93 their japanese is not that good
They still watch anime with subs and read manga in english
Only Joey is good at japanese but he learned it as a child
So apparently I get paid almost double as much working 24hours a week as a cashier as some poor animators who studied their asses off and spent hours for some bomb ass seconds in an anime I watch after work. Wow. Artists of any kind are so underappreciated.. :/
It's depressing to say, but kids that get an allowance from their parents are probably making more than most animators.
Your profile pic has reached peak degeneracy
@@Salchichas38 i swear 😂
I hate when people bitch about someone charging money for their time and skill like it's worth nothing.
You get paid what you negotiate.
Interviews like this makes you realise how much effort and time was put into something like Attack on Titan season 4, it just doesn't feel right criticising the animation quality after hearing this
It's already bad enough if you criticized it at all I fucking hate the idiots who got mad about it
His English is fantastic for the fact that he's already fluent in 2 languages.
Respect to all animators, we fans don't deserve it
Seeing how the fans have been treating studios like the AoT studio. Yeah we dont deserve it.
At the same time they willingly chose that lifestyle.
@@vagabondgamur1279 and we are thankful that they did . Because of that choice we are getting this amazing source of media 😍
@@Kevinofrepublic don’t generalize us bra
@@Kevinofrepublic hey man those who diss on MAPPA’S work for reasons of cg and harassing staff doesn’t deserve anime
Remember what Joey said in the last ep...
50:00 "You don't live, you survive"
damn that hits different
Quote of the year.
Quote of the year.
Quote of the year.
Quote of the year
Quote of the year
This episode is probably the best one yet in my opinion. Really enjoyed the information dump in this ep.
Ngl, my first reaction was "This Japanese accent sounds awfully French"
Like how Connor is playing the role of POV character who needs to learn background knowledge this episode. That’s probably a good thing in case some people listening also don’t know the animation process.
Connor basically function as the insert protagonist for normies.
Its hard to understand this french guy though
@@imsentinelprime9279 u can turn on captions...
That's what I was thinking
Everyone has to watch shirobako
The dude speaks with a French accent but in every other way, he is definitely Japanese. The way he quietly waits when the boys crack jokes just exudes politeness without any words needed
Ken: *is Japanese*
The comments: Yeah, he's definitely Japanese.
He was born and raised in France and is half french, that's why it's being pointed out
Japanese people are like that around people they aren't that close to. Once you are close friends with a japanese person they joke around with you normally like any person
@@IWantToStayAtYourHouse Kinda depends on where you grew up.
I'm native Japanese, but I'm from Osaka. Grew up in Osaka, moved to Texas and lived here for three decades.
Osaka's culture is naturally open and loud, and so are Southern Americans. So I'm not at all shy or reserved like you would expect from stereotype of a Japanese lol.
But he does....
What i learn: Animators in Japan don't get paid enough and they are overworked. Ppl look down on them and sometimes they receive threats. Yet, they make anime out of passion for all of us to enjoy. Thank you, animators.
Animators are definitely intentionally undervalued by these big companies so that they don't have to pay them more than the starvation wages they get. I really hope they can unionize someday during my lifetime, that'll probably be the happiest day in my life as an anime fan. Thank you so much Ken for sharing all your knowledge and experience, it was super informative and helps people understand the trials animators have to go through in order to create the entertainment we enjoy
unions aren’t always that great.
When he was talking about the “One Man Armies”, all I could think about was Rohan Kishibe
Same lol Rohan Kishibe could probably remake all the episodes of One Piece in a single afternoon with Ufotable levels of animation.
@@matheusmoreira9951 Wasn't Rohan a mangaka, not an animator?
Tom the Pain Train Conductor
Yes but do you really think that that’d stop Rohan from doing it?
@@Circ00mspice yeah, he was a mangaka. I just said that cause it is cannon that Rohan Kishibe can draw his amazing art extremely fast. Even during the final arc of part 6, when Pucci is making time move faster and faster, Rohan can still keep up with the schedule of his manga, so I bet he would also be fast as fuck if he took any work as an animator.
@@Circ00mspice yeah but he’s just so good at his job that he can translate that skill into anything he does, prodigy things.
Man they are natural at interviewing. Ken was kinda uncomfortable at the start but 10 minutes in and he's not even a guest anymore. He's one of THE BOYS.
Absolutely man
"I had to get up from my chair because my feet were swollen and bleeding."
THIS EPISODE SPONSORED BY HONEY
This man is trying his best and thats enough. This was a very nice, wholesome episode.
♡
The man speaks japanese, french and defends himself in english, now thats epic.
To be fair he could work on his English but still impressive for the most part
I speak English, German, Turkish and Arabic and currently learning japanese
His English was really good, to be fair. He could understand three natives with different accents no problem and had an almost two hour conversation entirely in English. The only thing you could point out is the accent, but French people usually have a very hard time with English accent. Other than that, it was impressive.
@@sofiipote7 I shouldn't be hard on him because of his job and upbringing but Arabic (my mother tongue) is WAY distant from English than french is, but I still managed to learn it for my SAT (I got 780 out of 800 in English section) so I guess he can work on his English a little bit more
@@appleslover A lot of people learn English all over the world, I'm aware of that. I just pointed out that French people usually have a hard time with the accent, from what I've seen. He also didn't have to learn it for an exam like you said you did, but he could have a two hour conversation with three native speakers, so his English is functional. Plus, he already knows two other languages. That's a lot.
This man said he wants to work on Chainsaw Man, what a legend. This gives me faith that a lot of talented people will want to work on the CSM anime because so many people love the series. I've seen so much fanart and fan animations of the series, there is definitely a lot of passion for it.
i can't wait to see what animators do with the series
I was seeing on twitter people were saying that a ton of animators were basically begging to work on the series so I would like to bet that CSM's adaptation is going to be legendary.
@@JDUU2K the problem is animation director who is the one that fill that position will make or break the anime adaptation. Is there any staff leaks yet.
At what time ?
@@quwrof Yo, give us those timestamps
The editing on this episode is underrated! Having some reference to the topics in the video is so useful and makes understanding the topic easier.
I hope this episode will blow up more. It's such a good episode with so much factual insights and information about doing one's passion, working for the anime industry, and so on.
Mad respect for Ken Arto for all his work and cominga long the podcast!
Baccalaureat he speaks of is not the bachelors degree, it means secondary school diploma in France
high school diploma*
@@clydu91 it’s the same thing tho. in Belgium 🇧🇪 we say Secondary school and in France High school
In Germany it's called Abitur
Uk say secondary school
i have that this year
I have gained new respect for animators
and people who can read cursive japanese
I gained respect for them ever since I saw the Studio Trigger behind the scenes of Little Witch Academia.
Its kinda depressing to be honest.
This was an amazing episode - I'm so glad you guys really let Ken talk about his experiences as much as he did.
The video editing in this episode was amazing with very little additions which won my heart especially when he added kamekaeme ha on ken when he mentioned that he was excited to work on DBZ
Man I hope Garnt mentions working at the BBC
@@jqa16 wtf?
@Are you choking? lol that Konosuba reference
Lol
Got the Bingo card out
He didn't :'(
Garnt Joey ken:talking about animation
Conner: Smile and nod boys smile and nod
The budget spend/strategy answer Ken gave at 1:04:46 really explained to me why a lot of the shonen anime I watched give or take 15 years ago had such low quality before and after the climax episodes (especially during filler arcs), while the climax episodes looked top-budget-movie-quality... Such a simple yet practical explanation finally clicked for me just now haha
IK I'm late to the party but Ken Arto is so WHOLESOME FAM
He’s so cute ☺️
Ken: Speaks for 1 secs
Me: *french Detected*
Frenk
I just love his voice
Imagine having "art" in your name. What a legend.
ARUTO
@@ltsf arturo
You should check a french CZcams channel called Japania.
He was interviewed with other french peeps working in the animation industry. It's in french but English subs are available
oh yeah Garnt? I see what you mean
@@matthew_natividad arturito
"If you have a good animation director, it changes everything"
*cries in Haikyu Season 4*
ikr :_( for haikyuu season 4, the director, the chief animation director as well as two of the absolute best key animators had stepped down from the staff.. The old director's approach was so perfect for the show that the change really catches the eye..
Yeah I know, right!. It is so much noticeable that it's hard to ignore it.
Also, I don't blame the staff since they for sure tried their best to put out the anime but I'd blame the production committee for the choices they made for the critical positions *when* there were clear BETTER choices available for it (like for Director, Chief Animation Director)
It would have been a different scenario if there was a studio change or they were given less time to work on it, but technically they had like 4 years to work on it and still they couldn't put up a single episode at the level of S3 (which I know was a high budget season) but not even at the level of S2 matches which is just sad and unfortunate for a hype match overall.
The best indicator that season won't be same as previous one was the openings. They had less action which directly implies so many things... Season 2 openings were filled with so much action.. Rip Season 4, adaptation was 7/10 for 10/10 plot 😭
@@asp2410 you know what pissed me off? The fact that people were acting as if there was no change in animation, or that the change in animation/artstyle was a decision to better resemble the manga.
I don't care, I liked the old Season 1,2,3 look. Everyone else is a jackass.
True, and even though if character designs were changed which I honestly don't mind as much, the animation lacked everything what made previous seasons better. It wasn't smooth, action wasn't as great, pacing of the series on top of that was all over the place, OST placement was mediocre...
Also, you know the staff is having a problem with pacing and adaptation when they had to put a still frame of Rooftop of the stadium in between of WHEN KARASUNO was doing a Synchronized Attack against Miya brothers... I lost it there honestly.
@@asp2410 bro, so true.
And yes, I understand, we have a pandemic. Honestly, I understand it. Stop calling me stuff, I understand their plight. But Production IG made Noblesse, and it turned out fine, didn't it?
Honestly, I am at my wit's end. I love Haikyuu, but I just said "Screw it, I'm reading the manga".
Also I watch Coach Donny's Haikyuu reaction videos. They're at "Elevate Yourself".
Amazing episode, amazing interview. Ken was such an amazing guest giving insight on everything. I wouldn’t be mad if Ken started being a regular guest on the show.
"Tell him to go animate Part 6, Johnny."
Tell him yourself
🤣
Animate part 6 asshole! fall off your chair
It is?? Since when???
@Jannes Ebeling there’s an announcement on the 4th of April. They haven’t confirmed that announcement being Stone Ocean, but ofc it’s likely
It's weird. I had a hard time understanding him till they said he was French then my brain was all like, "oh French, not Japanese. You may now understand him."
Same here ! Its so strange
In my case, it was "I swear that sounded French. But he's Japanese right? Stop it brain." Then boom he's a hafu lol
I thinks its also like how I have to adjust my mind differently if I am listening to an Australian guy vs a a person with British accent
Probably my favorite trash taste episode with a guest! Very inspiring!
I think this is one of your best episodes by far. Everyone here agrees that we learned so much about the animation industry and have so much respect for the animators who are working their asses off day and night to give us quality entertainment! Great job you guys!
he has the coolest accent ever, half french half Japanese and while trying to speak in an English accent
@Kate A English is lenient. English is basically dumbed down Latin imbued with a mixture of all other languages in Europe, made so that the illiterate masses could have some sort of literacy for communication without wasting half their life learning it. One of the ways English is easy is that unlike most other languages, it doesn't give a gender noun for objects without life. Theres only a single 'the' for all the objects in the world. It's a crowd pleaser language.
@Kate A but it's leniency is what makes it a good language. It does the job of communication very very well. A few words can get your meaning across to almost anyone anywhere. It's only when you try to go in depth in the language, u realise how its also incomplete and kinda troublesome at times. For example, Shakespeare, to make sense of his plays and poems and the ideas he wanted to portray, he had to invent and add almost 1700 words to the English language. Even now, it's one of the few languages that has to keep updating it's dictionary from time to time as more words keep coming up.
@@prajwalkrishnabhat5539 Guess the phrase “there are no shortcuts in life” also applies to languages
There is barely any Japanese in there. It's very dominantly a French accent
As in a French person with a slight Japanese tinge, who learned English in France
Shout to the boys for being great hosts and making all their guests comfortable
This
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The mix of Japanese and French accent in his English speaking voice is super unique. He has great expression in his words!
I've seen every Trash Taste and I think this is probably my favorite. Ken is a phenomenal guest and really appreciate him sharing his knowledge and experiences
had so much respect for animators but after this podcast, it increased so much more. salute to all animators 👏
My heart hurts when I heard about how low pay animators get. The companies literally exploit their passion for animation. Working over time with lots of sleepless nights is already brutal enough on their mind and bodies, so at least pay them what they deserve!
This is such an amazing episode. I love getting inside industry information about stuff like this, especially from someone who is so passionate about their work. Just fantastic.
literally learned so much in this ep; most interesting thing ive seen all day and I don’t regret sitting though the entire thing 👍🏻
He's like joey but half French
Joey is more like Joji both half Australian half japonais.
He's a trilingual Joey.
I am convinced there is a half-japanese Joey for each country.
@@baronvonbeandip truu 🤣
French Joey isn't real, he can't hurt you.
Teachers regardless of age just denying "manga", this is pissing me off as well, just recently i was asked to showcase the "Best works of my mine according to my opinions & taste" to my teacher to evaluate my skills & knowledge. And i proudly brought in about 9 drawings, some were graphite, some were paintings, some were oil pastel, and of course i sneaked in a "Manga" drawing, I didn't really give a fuck that it was manga or not, i thought that the work that i have put in was probably the greatest and finest of all. That could have been an other ordinary graphite drawing, it could have been my oil pastel works, but that the one i thought was my very best happend to be "Manga" like drawing, and it was just mere coincidence..
So as she was flipping thru my works, she took about a minute to evaluate each work, but when she got to my manga drawing she just, flipped thru it right away, and she said "That's manga" with a disapproving face.. Look, i understand Manga as a style and or artistic choice can't be evaluated because it's history is merely TV / Manga entertainment, but mother fucker at least value the work i have put into it.. It's not like it was created via a wish fulfilling golden fish, it was still created by my hands and my tools..
I think all art teachers seem to be that way though. They're all seem to be assholes if they don't like a certain style.
I'm so lucky to have 1 art teacher that appreciate manga so much that he literally talk about it most of the time. But yeah, except for him, majority of art teachers only care about their opinion about art.
Dude I used to love drawing back when I was younger but in high school I got an art teacher who absolutely hated anime. After that I basically stopped drawing. Every now and then I’ll try to draw but get frustrated and end up not finishing it.
That is because your art teacher is incompetent and filled with Nietzschean resentment. People hate things that are better than them. Manga is a highly stylized artform that is not easy. It is the artform of the people and---of course---that means that elitist dickheads hate it.
I bet your art teacher has never sold a piece of art in their life.
@@karlnord1429 Or maybe it's just that anime was created as a cheap and quick way to make animation. Easy for anyone in the team to copy with no trace of personal style so that the studio doesn't depend on a single artist and so that they can hire animator with near to no experience. While it's starting to change in the last few years it's still mostly what it is for cheap studio and it will take even longer for that reputation to disappear.
It also doesn't help that the point of art class is to get out of your comfort zone by experiment with medium, style and subject you're not used to. In the last few decades student who draw anime gained the bad reputation of being very stubborn about staying in their comfort zone and only focusing on copying a single art style instead of actually learning and developing their art skill
45:06 It took everything Garnt had to stop himself from saying "It hits different"
I’m an animator in Canada and even tho I already knew all this info, hearing about the working life of a jpnese animator straight from an actual source really scares? Shocks me. Especially hearing that bit about being paid per frame, jfc
Animators are so underpaid it's literally a crime
I genuinely found this episode one of the most (if not the most) interesting episodes of trash taste.
Needless to say my respect for animators skyrocketed aswell because damn like you hear about heavy work hours and stuff but when its coming out of the mouth of someone in this specific field it just hits different.
1:45:30 Of course, everyone wants to work on Chainsaw Man
Impact frames are like bass drops for your eyes
Wow thats a cool way of putting it