Cheesers RAGE when they get cheesed LOL | Salt Mines #21 - StarCraft 2

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  • Salt Mines: Everyone has encountered a salty or BM opponent on the StarCraft ladder before. UPLOAD YOUR REPLAY TO drop.sc/upload then send the link to RateMyStarCraft@gmail.com along with “Salt Mines” in the title + in the body of the email add your IGN & Rank & What happened in the game to make them salty.
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Komentáře • 165

  • @alro9338
    @alro9338 Před rokem +184

    LadyBug here!

    • @danm2084
      @danm2084 Před rokem +1

      Just so you know, if you did get your head cut off, I'd totally sew it back on for you! You don't deserve that. Horace is just a bit... disturbed.

    • @GruppeSechs
      @GruppeSechs Před rokem +17

      Yeah, there's rage and then there's just disturbing. Imagine being really proud of a win and having the rug ripped out from under you by that level of toxicity.

    • @emissarygw2264
      @emissarygw2264 Před rokem +8

      @@GruppeSechs yeah people are pretty dumb. Like if you're super toxic and make everyone feel like shit when they play, then there won't be anyone to play against.

    • @kseliascryser5259
      @kseliascryser5259 Před rokem +14

      Right before he started raging, I was thinking, man, this is a sick game, I wouldn't even be mad loosing to this. Really well played!

    • @johnnovak6386
      @johnnovak6386 Před rokem +7

      Well played LadyBug! ❤️

  • @habarvaz
    @habarvaz Před rokem +34

    "He was playing with 100 APM, he was incredibly slow". I felt that

    • @knighthawk2062
      @knighthawk2062 Před 11 měsíci

      Weapons grade Oooftonium right there....lol

  • @ryanwsu4
    @ryanwsu4 Před rokem +46

    Horace needs help… But like actual professional help.

  • @PlumpLumps
    @PlumpLumps Před rokem +73

    Your channel got me back into playing and watching StarCraft after nearly a decade away. Keep up the great work man 😊

    • @Baracktor
      @Baracktor Před rokem +3

      between him and harstem, same.

    • @pavilion64x32
      @pavilion64x32 Před rokem +2

      Me too bro. I reinstalled sc2 after 6 years of inactivity because of him xD

    • @pavilion64x32
      @pavilion64x32 Před rokem +1

      Ladder is somehow easier now

    • @PlumpLumps
      @PlumpLumps Před rokem +1

      @@pavilion64x32 so true lol. I got to diamond in 40 games just watching replays of pros

    • @balvo
      @balvo Před rokem +1

      Me toooo
      This game is timeless

  • @raf74hawk12
    @raf74hawk12 Před rokem +27

    I enjoy the minigame in this series where Pig tries to figure out the pattern in the replays that Dot picked out

  • @lupusprobitas
    @lupusprobitas Před rokem +17

    21:59 kys means kiss in Danish, so I'm just imagining Toons acknowledging his flaws, becoming a better human, and the postgame chat turning into a beautiful romance... ah, young love. ;-)

    • @colonelmcquak5994
      @colonelmcquak5994 Před rokem +3

      I'm the other guy in this game, spookybadger, so I hope you're right and he sent me a kiss ❤

    • @lupusprobitas
      @lupusprobitas Před rokem +1

      @@colonelmcquak5994 But no postgame heart to heart? I guess my interpretation just has to stay Salt Mines fanfiction. ;-)

  • @corgibuttz2550
    @corgibuttz2550 Před rokem +23

    Hey PiG! Was fun meeting you at Dreamhack and chatting at margaritaville! :D

  • @Compulsive_LARPer
    @Compulsive_LARPer Před rokem +11

    PiG showing his wholesome side at the end

  • @matthewpopowich
    @matthewpopowich Před rokem +9

    I like to imagine the internet tough guys threatening people, laying in bed at night staring at the ceiling like "I'll really do it!"

  • @DonYablos
    @DonYablos Před rokem +11

    I hope that last player gets a ban, that was genuinely unhinged.

  • @Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer

    “Stay gold, AcTiVillain. Stay gold . . .” The pillow seemed to sink a little, and Player died.”
    S.L. Kerrigan, The Stargazers

  • @omargoodman2999
    @omargoodman2999 Před rokem +2

    I'd call this mentality "Unilateral Rules of Engagement." People will create arbitrary rules for themselves like "I *have to* build _in_ my base" so they can't even conceive of the idea of their opponent having a proxy. And when it *does* turn out to be a proxy, they don't correct their preconception, they double down on it. They rage on the opponent for not following these arbitrary, self-imposed rules. "You've broken the Rules of War which you never agreed to and which are really more like guidelines... *shame on you!"*
    "I *can't* fly over and attack their defenseless base, I *have to* beat this contain down with my _face!"_ Unilateral Rule of Engagement
    "I *can't* capitalize on a failed attack with a counter-attack, I *have to* rebuild the 5% of my economy and infrastructure they damaged!" Unilateral Rule of Engagement
    "I *can't* pull back damaged units, I *have to* press forward with full strength until I win or wipe." Unilateral Rule of Engagement
    And how *dare* anyone do otherwise!
    "Anything I don't know how to defend is cheese" The *Ultimate* Unilateral Rule of Engagement

  • @Markfr0mCanada
    @Markfr0mCanada Před rokem +8

    Man, Pig, with that closing speech I want to see a reaction stream of you watching the rants Artosis goes on when he loses!

  • @alphariusomegon3022
    @alphariusomegon3022 Před rokem +4

    "In throes of rage, I shall hone my craft."

  • @Pineapple-Lord
    @Pineapple-Lord Před rokem +4

    "which one's the click again" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Sparta-vu3jj
    @Sparta-vu3jj Před rokem +1

    that last guy was just hilarious. From the bottom of my soul. LOL what soul

  • @bendystrawz2832
    @bendystrawz2832 Před rokem +1

    The side tangent after 12:25 got me rolling! Your analogies are the best, too. Man I love this series!

  • @galaxeon797
    @galaxeon797 Před rokem +4

    Wise words in conclusion! Great video as always! Really like how u're giving an analysis of what could be done to avoid the situation or how to manage it! thanks

  • @mrpotato8985
    @mrpotato8985 Před rokem +3

    I love to see cannon rashers getting punished. Their rage makes it even better

  • @erictred4529
    @erictred4529 Před rokem +1

    I love salt mines my new favorite thing to watch. I know watching two players rage at each other and liking it dosent make me a bad person right?

    • @passenger175
      @passenger175 Před rokem

      No, it is fun! It is a stressful game I never play myself, only co op and custom modes. But watching others at it - so fun

  • @jackogoeswacko4smackos
    @jackogoeswacko4smackos Před rokem +1

    Hi im activillain, I like clicking on things. Thanks for casting my game

  • @billmozart7288
    @billmozart7288 Před rokem +4

    Glad to get a visit to the Salt Mines so I can bring some home for my Thanksgiving leftovers. Do you have anything akin to Thanksgiving in Australia?

  • @JonNeimeister
    @JonNeimeister Před rokem +3

    These were funny but can we group report Horace? There's salt and then there's... that.

  • @onegnometorule
    @onegnometorule Před rokem

    My favorite salt episode yet, with the last 3 minute eloquent-as-usual monologue being more proof of why I hold you as the best and most enjoyable SC caster in the history of the game (even ahead of the always funny Tastosis). :)

  • @maxmustermann8985
    @maxmustermann8985 Před rokem +3

    i have no idea why the ppl get so upset about cheese.. its an rts game... every strategie u can win the game u can use.. iff i die to cheese i watch the replay and look for what i can improve in my own gameplay... will still say gg and often i laught if ill get cannonrushed or somthing. its a game enjoy it guys

  • @Baracktor
    @Baracktor Před rokem +2

    The salt mines is a fantastic series

  • @tomas539
    @tomas539 Před rokem +3

    Test always rages, I face them on the ladder all the time, funny to see them here.

  • @sagitswag1785
    @sagitswag1785 Před rokem +1

    6:41 pawns aren't worthless. Alot of games are decided on pawn moves and promotions. A passed pawn can singlehandedly win you the game. It's like saying that drones are worthless cuz they can't fight...

  • @Templarfreak
    @Templarfreak Před rokem +1

    23:02 if at any point someone ever suspects this at all in the slightest, you know what they can do about that???? *go fucking check.* lol

  • @FitzAF
    @FitzAF Před rokem +11

    Love this, cheesers getting stuffed with a better quality cheese and refusing to accept it 😂
    But tbh this is why I don't want to ladder, too. I just stick to AI matches and sparring with my friends. I don't need to experience this to know I'd totally be thrown off by a cheeser. 💀

    • @dexketristo2349
      @dexketristo2349 Před rokem +2

      When people settle for that very obscure and weird brand of American cheese that doesn't taste quite right and gets Meunster put infront of them. xD

  • @aussj4link214
    @aussj4link214 Před rokem

    That second game was perfect. Absolutely love seeing people get their own cheese back in their face and then getting pissed.

  • @cjfletcher325
    @cjfletcher325 Před rokem +4

    The dumb ass build was how I would defeat protoss every game in diamond : p when all they did was turtle into sky….maybe it’s different now

    • @TheMuffinman191
      @TheMuffinman191 Před rokem

      You can also make 66 dromes, 3-4 bases and max out on 2-2 hydra infestor and just run them over

    • @cjfletcher325
      @cjfletcher325 Před rokem

      @@TheMuffinman191 Hrm maybe if you don’t get hit by storms or disruptor

    • @TheMuffinman191
      @TheMuffinman191 Před rokem

      @@cjfletcher325 Unless they are going heavy on those you’ll be fine if you engage even half decent. If they are just goin air then you auto win. Maybe substitute some vipers for infestors, or just fucking take their disruptors with neural

    • @FreakMeat74
      @FreakMeat74 Před rokem

      @@TheMuffinman191 Yeah it's a very good counter. If the Toss has critical mass they can concede the 4th and counter attack nicely, possibly take a good fight/win the base trade. So there is some play either way at least.

    • @TheMuffinman191
      @TheMuffinman191 Před rokem

      @@FreakMeat74 nah you just make lurkers and kill his dumb ass. Microbial is actually pretty good vs skytoss and if you can get lurker range then you can outrange HT.
      Vipers for disruptors and ez life

  • @lundden
    @lundden Před rokem

    hahaha gave the thumbs up for the high level insight on how to properly insult someone. You're all right

  • @mischaprudon3316
    @mischaprudon3316 Před rokem +1

    It amazes me how many just never use control groups and just f2:
    I started with command and conquer zero hour and while that is way less micro intensive then sc2 it was just handy to have control groups.
    So it keeps amazing me that so many in a micro intensive game just never use control groups.

  • @Chase-zv9te
    @Chase-zv9te Před rokem

    Pig, I love your psychological analysis on players, you're my favorite SC2 steamer and you're hilarious. Much love from Colorado_Battle ❤️

  • @matszz
    @matszz Před 4 měsíci

    Pig, you need a cybernetics core to build shield batteries, hope that helps. Love your videos!

  • @chir0pter
    @chir0pter Před rokem

    zerg proxy cheese is the best to watch because it's the hardest to pull off, but hugely effective if it can get rolling

  • @1Rekuiem
    @1Rekuiem Před rokem +29

    Is uThermal to blame for all these proxy hatches 😂

    • @MadShadow_
      @MadShadow_ Před rokem

      Nah perhaps a little reassurance in these types of builds, but not by miles I think. Though I am surprised uThermal doesn't get thrown as much salt at him oddly enough with his YOLO approaches.

    • @altaykilic2142
      @altaykilic2142 Před rokem

      @@MadShadow_ I guess there aren't that many crybabies out there, it's just that this video format makes it look like they are the majority. But I rarely play pvp so I wouldn't know.

    • @WinterChicken
      @WinterChicken Před rokem

      @@altaykilic2142 I've been salt mine level raged at one time ever. Most of the time people don't even say anything all game, and the closest thing to "BM" if you could even call it that you run into is just no GG. A couple times someone replied "ez" to my gg at endgame but that's pretty much the extent of BM I've seen in the last several months of ladder. League of Legends, on the other hand..... every bloody game!

  • @enriquegarciacota3914

    Second one is *cheff’s kiss*

  • @Lingboysc2
    @Lingboysc2 Před rokem

    by the way when someone is named Player it usually means that they got their name forcefully name changed for having an inappropriate name

  • @jkowalski33
    @jkowalski33 Před rokem +2

    are death threats banned by blizzard? that last game was a few tiers higher than just being salty, goodness

  • @justadudeN72
    @justadudeN72 Před rokem

    25:00 Idk man, I'm no SC2 ex-pro but I'm no twitch chat neither, but that definitely ain't the middle of the map

  • @Tao_75
    @Tao_75 Před rokem +1

    Good ol' sex panther, 60% of the time works every time

  • @alexderksen1213
    @alexderksen1213 Před rokem +1

    I think i need to change my cannon rush response to include proxy hatches. I need more ragers in my games

  • @oponomo
    @oponomo Před rokem +1

    if i had a son/daughter, i would set a recording on their monitor if they had internet access because i would want to take away their gaming days if they ever said anything hateful like these online. these poor kids are crying for help and their parents have no idea what they are doing/feeling.

  • @FlyingDragoon8
    @FlyingDragoon8 Před rokem +1

    uThermal starts his Zerg cheese series and suddenly there are a bunch of players proxying hatch, coincidence? I think not!

  • @idkstuff7339
    @idkstuff7339 Před rokem

    So many pvz in the 1st half of the video lol

  • @pavilion64x32
    @pavilion64x32 Před rokem +1

    Ima following ur Twitch channel
    This is some decent content and worthy watching lul

  • @lukeaberdene-wallwork8029

    I miss the Florencio files :(

  • @MaiAolei
    @MaiAolei Před rokem

    Even though I viscerally dislike Zerg, when I see a cannon rusher, even I root for them with all my soul.

  • @guerra_dos_bichos
    @guerra_dos_bichos Před 9 měsíci

    spinecrawler micro lol

  • @sirlisterofsmeg333
    @sirlisterofsmeg333 Před rokem

    Such Heresy coming from Horace.

  • @SteveSoper1979
    @SteveSoper1979 Před rokem

    Test messed up in wasting 150 minerals with that cannon on the 3rd spot. If you do that strategy, I would assume you'd would have at least seen Flo or someone else do this. Anyways, you know not to start that cannon until the Hatch is about 75% done. This way the cannon finishes at the same time or just after. If see the hatch cancel, cancel the cannon.

  • @hydraulichydra8363
    @hydraulichydra8363 Před rokem

    I once had a game of DotA 2 in which one of my team mates vowed to get my IP and cut my head off.
    That was when I knew I had been successful in griefing the hell out of his game (and all my teammates')

  • @wod5203
    @wod5203 Před rokem

    I hear the term 'social contract' being used, but I have yet to sign one...

  • @danm2084
    @danm2084 Před rokem

    ugh ya that red zerg in the third or fourth game was so hard to watch... reminds me of bronze league heroes for sure.

  • @Daren_PNW
    @Daren_PNW Před rokem

    i hate meat products but always love your content, dude.

  • @Apr0x1m0
    @Apr0x1m0 Před rokem

    Tactical salted nukes, just the way I like it!

  • @Ulti_H
    @Ulti_H Před rokem

    while I love laughing at angry nerds in starcraft replays, Horace made me feel sick

  • @furryfan1416
    @furryfan1416 Před rokem

    so a quick question...
    what do pools have to do with a video game?

  • @knighthawk2062
    @knighthawk2062 Před rokem +1

    yeeeeeeessssssssssss gimmie more salttttttttttttttttttt 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤

  • @donnyofdoom1873
    @donnyofdoom1873 Před rokem

    This game made me wonder if there are ever replays sent in that get cut either by the filter or by PiG for just being too yikes

  • @Jacob-cm3io
    @Jacob-cm3io Před rokem

    I just came to say I think you are really cool.

  • @lockstepsavior
    @lockstepsavior Před rokem

    I wish I could be as sanguine about winning and losing as you, brother PiG. I am just filled with rage at each loss, to the point where I no longer even play any PvP stuff.

  • @VAPhillyFan54
    @VAPhillyFan54 Před rokem

    iPwn is a certified legend.

  • @asharak84
    @asharak84 Před rokem +1

    First game insults were confusing - both an incel and their gf left them? I don't think your celibacy regrows when you get left.
    Second game they didn't rebuild the cyber core so i think no batteries in main as an option? (of course, so much money they could have rebuilt that ages ago)

  • @reznya2700
    @reznya2700 Před rokem

    A pawn is like most important piece and it's just i PWN, not own not pawn. You look old enough to remember 1337 speak.

  • @derrickjenniferdunn8621

    PiG doesn't know the 5 year awards??? Does he REALLY play this game? :)

  • @yaelz6043
    @yaelz6043 Před rokem

    I honestly don't understand why zealots are the slowest units in the game. They literally can't chase down a building.

    • @FreakMeat74
      @FreakMeat74 Před rokem

      Slow lings->Zergling speed Slow zealots->Zealot legs

  • @Direwoof
    @Direwoof Před 2 měsíci

    AMD HHHYZEN AND AMD HHHADEON FTW!

  • @toreger2852
    @toreger2852 Před rokem

    Not to defend the salty ragers, but I think what they mean when they cry about "noobs" and "no skill" and "stay diamond" is that they belive their opponent is resorting to "dice-roll" strategies (where little to no skill is involved for either player, and you just pray your opponent isn't blind-countering you). In some cases I'm even inclined to agree, certain strats do take much more skill to defend than to execute. Thanks for the entertaining vids :)

  • @CarlingBlackJuice
    @CarlingBlackJuice Před rokem +1

    Pig go easy on Player. He going through a rough time. He just wishes for his baby to come back. I mean any kinda fool could see this

  • @GruppeSechs
    @GruppeSechs Před rokem

    I'm gonna start saying mother+ to insult someone through youtube's censorship. Thanks, test!

  • @Novocane23
    @Novocane23 Před 11 měsíci

    If you won't say the F word, you shouldn't say the T word either. Otherwise love your content PiG.

  • @Sejdr
    @Sejdr Před rokem

    Yet another player that needs to be reported to the police for threatening to kil a person.

  • @joeygawl4346
    @joeygawl4346 Před rokem

    2:08 dude has less drones than you start the game with.

    • @jackogoeswacko4smackos
      @jackogoeswacko4smackos Před rokem

      If drones are supposed to give you minerals, and they cost minerals, why waste them on minerals

    • @joeygawl4346
      @joeygawl4346 Před rokem

      @@jackogoeswacko4smackos xD word good logic.

  • @itcomptek
    @itcomptek Před rokem

    The only reason he loses is because his opponents are f'n noobs! LOL

  • @MrOlsonn666
    @MrOlsonn666 Před rokem

    I sure hope there’s some RTS gamers among you, for im looking forward to shaking off those cobwebs and playing 1v1 with you in my all time favorite game… only criteria, I get to be my strongest race, you get to be you… PvT.
    anyone else grow up playing nothing more than C&C and StarCraft for the better part of a decade? My childhood ROTC so to speak…

  • @fishlobs
    @fishlobs Před rokem

    RUMB is are you mad bro

  • @Xelnarash
    @Xelnarash Před rokem

    well ... report that person with evidence ... its a crime so he will sit long ... very long ..

  • @Selloca
    @Selloca Před rokem

    Not pig calling the pawn the worst piece in the game 😥

  • @thewave5536
    @thewave5536 Před rokem

    EPIC

  • @geuros
    @geuros Před rokem

    Yeah Harstem, Protoss players are so mannered.

  • @shadowmeister5432
    @shadowmeister5432 Před rokem

    Saying Pawns are the most worthless piece goes to show how much you know about chess.

  • @Kilorelv
    @Kilorelv Před rokem

    Just came back to sc2 played some elite AI games was crushing it... got shit on by a bronze player in my placements xD I was laughing at how terribly I played
    Edit: not saying I shouldnt lose to bronze was mentioning rank to show how low tier I am. I hope i didn't offend anyone or come off as an ass

    • @Kilorelv
      @Kilorelv Před rokem

      1st 2 ranked games I've EVER done both were losses and I'm honestly kind of glad, it's a bit upsetting to just come into a game and stomp. You have to start from the bottom and crawl your way up.

  • @Sarkwer
    @Sarkwer Před rokem

    holy didn't know sc2 players were so toxic :o

  • @kildeer
    @kildeer Před rokem

    you were on player's side when he used "tranny" as an insult? that's tactical and precise still? it's the after game insults that ruined it for you? lmao

  • @user-eo3ph1jn8e
    @user-eo3ph1jn8e Před rokem

    No compassion for comments like that,a

  • @sc2_RS1
    @sc2_RS1 Před rokem

    🧂 =you just 👎

  • @iateaBibleonce
    @iateaBibleonce Před rokem +5

    didnt expect trans slurs this episode tbh

    • @Selloca
      @Selloca Před rokem +1

      Well A trans slur but I agree

  • @sc2_RS1
    @sc2_RS1 Před rokem

    noobs

  • @romain50b
    @romain50b Před rokem +3

    Isnt it kinda hypocrite to censure rape? That's what he meant, and if you do censure why not death threats?

    • @romain50b
      @romain50b Před rokem

      Otherwise another fun cheesy vids wp pig

    • @jkkim6928
      @jkkim6928 Před rokem

      Interesting take

    • @abouttime2569
      @abouttime2569 Před rokem +3

      So you want him to hide every word? No thanks

    • @jiayojames
      @jiayojames Před rokem +1

      I'd imagine it's less a case of Pig wanting to censor it and more to do with youtube's content detection algorithms demonetising and suppressing videos with certain words.

    • @cyre77
      @cyre77 Před rokem

      @@abouttime2569 I think romain50b is just confused about why "rape" is censored, but stuff like "kill yourself", " if i had your address i would behead you", and other stuff about violence and murder isn't censored
      i'm also confused by this decision to be fair

  • @adamlouis3725
    @adamlouis3725 Před rokem

    the horace heresy

  • @WoWUndad
    @WoWUndad Před rokem

    Can there be an option for auto chatoff and show a little icon next to your name or give a system message. I want to play a strategy game but blizz knows 99% of people are emotionally fueled. Im sorry but im not playing sc to socialize especially with salty inbreds who rage at others before they self analyze.
    The only time i could possibly imagine getting mad is to getting 2raxed lower ramp before rubble was implented