Worst 1-Base BC Player EVER "Knows" Opponent Is HACKING | Salt Mines #34 - StarCraft 2
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Lore drop! In-universe, the Crucio Siege Tank was the replacement for the Arclite Siege Tank from SC1. So yes, in SC1 they were called Arclite cannons.
I guess Swann saying "These new seige tanks are just like the old ones" makes sence then
Arclites were phased out because they apparently did too much friendly fire. The Crucio, though designed to have 'smart charges' that minimise friendly fire, are still so bad that Dominion marines are convinced Siege Tanks do more damage to their own forces than the enemy.
@@rozmarinideas5340 i thought it was because the arclites just didn't hit hard enough. As in, crucio ones have like 50% greater splash radius or something ridiculous like that. Smart shells, whilst developed and sometimes used, are prohibitably expensive and thus aren't common enough for the average marine to get not killed by one.
@@rozmarinideas5340 it's actually mostly the Crucio that has the reputation for friendly fire. as far as i am aware, there is no straight-up firepower or effectiveness reasons why the Crucio replaced the Arclite. instead, most of the Crucio's improvements were made with largely in-universe reasons behind it.
for example the Crucio cannon is technically still two barrels like the Arclite, but heavily reinforced in the center, which greatly improves the cannon's lifespan. it also has a quick and automated replacement system for replacing broken tread segments, and the new way it transforms can take much more punishment from the artillery cannon firing before the tank needs to be serviced.
there is also mention that the tank mode turret is stronger and more effective, but in actuality based on actual ingame stats while the cannon itself may technically be more effective the overall DPS per supply is actually about 33% lower.
@@Templarfreak doesn't the old one do more dmg per hit, but much slower?
"I have played over 21000 games and I am hardstuck in bronze, I know a hack when I see one"
- Professor (who is very clearly not a professor in anything at all)
He's a professor in nincompoopery
Actually Professor Bronze III
to think to play for 21k games and to still suck lmfao
@@user-zb4zg8du7nDSP in a nutshell.
7:32 "negative micro" LOL
Best lesson of all time from salt mines is rock has no counter in rock,paper,scissors
To be fair the context of that one was that the guy was saying, what if rock, paper, scissors was just rock, scissors? Then rock would have no counter. It was still a dumb argument, but that was his point.
Spit counters rock 😂
OG
@@WhitePointerGaming except, if I remember the cast, I think he actually, in his anger, kept saying that if the game was only rock paper, then rock would have no counter
@@AverageUltrakillEnjoyer995 yeah, that was what the guy was saying. However, he probably meant the rock scissors.
A professor being angry about a doctor being better than him is the most beautiful metaphor for academia.
Masterful :)
In real life more often than not the reverse is true 🤣
that 21000 games line had me falling off my chair :D
I've played this Professor guy before, I actually submitted a rep with a game against this guy. I think he must be trolling, because he said the same things in my game against him, almost word for word.
If it's near word for word then the accusations are literally his best build order. ;)
srsly tho if he was trolling the mess would start sooner and the micro wouldn't be a joke.
I made a smiley-face out of nothing but manner mules once.. right under the dude's last remaining Rax that he was floating to the corner, so I *absolutely* know that he saw it. 😂
I knew you were gonna fuck up and say it on accident lmao Bleep was the best part of the video xD love the vids!
I laughed so hard when you said "laughing at a literal ogre"
First game is delusion (or alcoholism) in motion.
Second game is Average Arcturus Mengsk Dominion Fan vs Average Raynor's Raiders Enjoyer
38:25 --> Every time i beat an NA player on Asia, they start. But, they use the N-word, despite playing on asia server.
Very smart people :)
Siege Tanks were Arclite in SC1 and Crucio in SC2, yeah. I think the campaign unit description on the hyperion had a note on that.
also the siegetanks in sc1 required a tech to be siegeable. i belive thats the reason they are a different name in sc2 as its default
That last one was epic. And your "high value" promo 35:23 was the funniest thing I've heard in a while!
the manosphere is a constant source of inspiration
"Running around with his flaccid banshees" I'm dead 😂36:06
:D :D
36:03 "Flacid Banshee"! 😂 That's my new insult
Awesome spelunking in the salt mine my good sir. Love it! ♥
haha thnx mate
low plat for the last game lol?!? PiG, don't insult me like that!
I wish I had my replay from when I was still gold (I'm diamond now with only 3 fingers on my left hand!). A protoss cannon rushed me, I ignored it and built a mediavac. Floated all buildings and ferried my scv's to another safer base. I continued with what I was doing and did the ol Stim A move right into his base. His investment into that cannon rush left him so exposed. Other player raged like a liberal arts major at me because Terran are so op and broken and only round eyes play Terran.
Chef's kiss.
Terran imba though if i amove and cast storms and terran amoves marine marauder medivac viking, sits right in psi storm vs my army of stalker archon colossus high templar disruptor(bad day fudged up everything micro so no balls were sent out or the collossi microed) with like 5 zealots terran wins the fight.
"our anger stems from our own failure directed at others" wow. Deep. And sounds right.
This reminds me of the time I defended a 1 base bc rush with a 2 base +2 air weapon mothership rush
I love the deep dives into the psyche of the salty ragers.
I'd wager CheeseMonsta is an ESL instructor living in Korea. That would explain his assuming his opponent's ethnicity - the word (Korean for country/kingdom) was first picked up by American soldiers during the Korean war, but usage ramped up during Vietnam (inaccurate usage, but more soldiers involved and more movies about it).
It would also explain his hostility - a number of ESL instructors grow notoriously bitter the longer they live there. The initial appeal of high hourly wages, short work day, and free housing becomes a trap as with each passing year of their resume containing only "speak language of my birth in front of children at prompting of colleague who does all the work" makes their prospects of landing a job back home dwindle. The salt for these types is real, and at the same time, totally deserved. Tragicomic.
haha negative micro.... something I have never seen in my life before :D
8:23 Called it before the words even left PiG's mouth. Absolute donkey. I love it.
That moment you don't actually know the slur being blocked out
pig said no originality, but my man pulled out a slur thats been gathering dust for at least a decade. and now my search history is a little more suspect.
I always wonder how they feel when they see the game on youtube afterward ^^
Do you think they ever stop whining on ladder to watch games?
Cheese monster salt was like that salt that’s been stored in a super humid environment that has lost its taste and makes your food taste like it came from Florencio s sewage-pantry
Cheese monster should try cutting the dairy from his diet, sheesh. So many weirdos out there!
Had a good laugh watching this hahaha
for some reason, at the very end, when he said "and lots iof it" i fucking lost it
there's something about the silly typos when they're raging that tends to tickle me
I think CheeseMonsta's strat is to be as repulsive a human being as possible so people leave and he counts it as a W.
I fucking love how you did so well this whole episode with censorship then riiiight at the very end you drop that amazing G bomb right on us. Fucking amazing AHAHAHAHA
haha praise the editor for saving my bacon
There is something wonderful about a doctor vs the professor 1v1. 😊 I just imagine the professor whining "I'm a doctor too!"
It's also deliciously ironic to see someone so incapable of learning, calling themselves professor. 😊
So when do we get a “salt mine bingo card” pig?
Hacks
X race is overpowered
All you have to do is a move
Demonetizable words
Cursing opponent or opponents family
All micro stops because player is typing
Silver league turrets
I can’t think of much more but I’m sure other people can think of some good ones
Calling a normal harassment “cheese”
Calling an attack “all in”
" Leave " when opponent is ahead
" I win " when surrendering
... Y'know, a Salt Mines Bingo Card sounds amazing. I definitely agree with that. xD
I think you would get canceled if you had a bingo card full of salt mine words 😂
@@dylansevitt I mean, we don't mean just words, we man sentences, actions, the kinds of things you use to make a truly quality meme bingo card. xD
i love the compliment in their racism btw. "oh youre better than me? you must be a dirty (insert race here)" lmao
Good thing I brought some meat to cure during this trip into the salt mine
Love these movies 👍💪
Fajow hahahaha... Where did that come from Pig? Gotta love your French...
haha gotta stay creative to appease the YT gods :D
I'm going to go out on a limb here I dont think that guy is a professor of anything.
Pls summarise all insults and make a tier list of them one day :D
This is why Doctors make more money than Professors.
We call that first game salt strat, the tRump,
I've already played against Professor several times...I don't know how often my account should be toast. Also tells the obligatory trash like here...that guy has mental issues, whilst playing and telling the same shit (21000 games, noober, whatever) over and over again.
Worrying to see Cheese-Mon necroposting a bit of Russell Crowe's Romper Stomper... Keep the dream alive, I guess...?
How does one spend time on 21k games and not have any self reflection into attitude or improving skill. I really don't understand some people.
Assume your opponent is hacking 11k times.
Ok, "hook" and "dog" out of the same person is a new one to me. Apparently dog is one of the worst things someone from China will call you. Like, that's the "tell me you're from China without telling me you're from China" insult. So that's a bit weird. Ah well, good episode Pig!
If I'm not mistaken "dog" is also used by arab people to insult others.
dog is quite universal but yeah today mostly middle east
Think the dog thing popped in because he thought about words TV commies use. Though I'm bias as I've assumed anyone with killa/wolf/monsta in their name is a pale neckbeard with dreams of losing their virginity in thailand for over a decade now.
I have to go check my replays, pretty sure I played professor and he said the same thing to me. I was thinking it was similar but with the whole now you lose your account and so sad for you, I’m positive it’s the same guy
haha another commentor said the same thing, must be his best excuse for losing build order. Like a true SC player refined and legit
Hey @PiGStarcraft are there quick ways in a game to mute the chat if the opponent is abusive?
F12 or F11 I believe opens the chat menu and you can just click a button there that mutes em, good choice if it's throwing you off/distracting at all
i love bronze league heroes salt. so funny.
Not just vietnam war, they used that slur in korean war too
33:48 thats like child molesters and killers that go to prison. Even prisoners have standards lol
23:27 Slur counter? 🤔
I have down ranked while playing the games out, it wasnt on purpose.... but it happened.
man i'd be the type of player who'd come in, destroy my opponent's army, then simply sit and destroy every unit as it comes out with no intention of killing him until he rage quits.
Pig has it right, it's trying to waste your apm and concentration; ignore it, kill it, mock it in chat afterwards.
Love me some salt mines. My favorite was "kill your family rat" that guy must have hated rats lol i am a terran player and i notice its mostly terran players with the most salt. I can understand it because you can't just usually build 1 type of unit and win witj terran as easily. I have been playing random lately and i definitely noticed that terran requires the most skill and finesse. I do great when i play as Zerg or protoss. This is just fun to watch
Negative micro! Haha
I think you’re right. I think some of the players think “if I have to lose my video game, you have to lose your cool” which is why not responding works so well against them, because then they are losing their game AND they lose any chance at losing gracefully
I remember studying all replays and playing against quite a few map hackers , but at bronze to plat elo they'd waste so much time looking at my base that it made them play worse, just learn critical scouting timings
I like salt, but man... that first game. Assuming there's any real skill or that hacks are actually useful at that level of play... that's pure copium.
And I say that being about Gold. Anyone could wreck me more often than not just by having a build order. I could see the Starport being built through the fog of war and go "hurrr.. durrr... Void Rays" like I was going to do anyway, but I forgot about Probe production for 20 seconds and am now floating 800 minerals just to reach that conclusion. (And then the Starport is just for Medivacs that instantly A-move to their death over my Silver-league cannons and you tell me how I'm supposed to use maphacks at my level)
A true Bronze League Hero.
edit: Make them two. Next time I should watch the entire video before making a comment...
I didn't know what g--k meant or even was a word. Thought gronk was censored and was like "that's bannable!?" So I looked up gronk and kept trying different searches of it to see why it's so awful now. Then I was like "wait he only changed 1 letter for runt so maybe it's just 1 letter for hook" and yea didn't find any info about it but it's listed as a slur.
The word is presumably gook
It's a slur against East Asians e.g Chinese
yeah it's pretty rare to hear it these days
I like the avatar you use for CZcams on this channel, I think it would make a good logo to blow up for merch…
Well only if you wanted to go that design route, like then it’d be awesome as long as they’re tasteful and nice desirable shirts front and back. (Was getting ads about your clothing…. Just my two cents. 🤔)
good idea, cheers platypus
Assuming an average game duration of 10 minutes, professor would have 2100 Minutes of play time. If I would have this much play time and be still this bad at micro, I too would be frustrated
I wonder if the people who show up humilliated in these videos actually watch them and I wonder what their faces are when they see themselves being laughed at by an entire community.
Probably the Streisand Effect. xD
This terran is probably a follower of Avilo 😂
idk which one is worse, the first game or second game.
My mommy told me the g**k thing came about because the Korean word for a Korean is “Hanguk” and the word for American is “Meeguk” (sort of means melting-pot referring to the racial diversity of the country). American soldiers would meet koreans who would excitedly say “ahhh! Meeguk!” And assumed they were calling themselves g**ks
thats so american oh my
I take offense to you calling that player an ogre. we are more intelligent than they will ever be. :D
LOL sry mate
I've played against that guy!
28:52 uncensored
@PiG I just had someone accuse me of hacking and reported me cause i gate/cannon rushed him 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 small private exchange after game with screen shots. THE SALT MUST FLOW🧂⚡️🧂⚡️🧂⚡️🧂
I am kind of a nobody and only in silver but i was curious how i can send you the replay and screenshots?
Han Guk is korean for korean, its really not derrogitory out of context.
Seems like they were trying to be offensive tho
Why don't pros use the BC? I've always wondered about that.
To dodge the demonetization and further emasculate the Salty players, I propose you change all their curse words and insults to the silliest things possible. Like F*** becomes "Fluff" and C*** becomes "Cutey".
Imagine how hilarious it would be to hear a salty player say "Fluff you you fluffing cutey!"
On a totally unrelated note why the heck are CZcams subtitles calling them "spork rollers" and not "spore crawlers"... 😂😂😂
LOL
Pig, why did I place in platinum after winning 10 games against a.i?? I was getting my a$$ whooped but now stable, is this a glitch? Don't we start from bronze?
don't worry your league doesn't matter just your MMR, your mmr takes about 25 games to stabilise during which you gain and lose massive amounts on each win or loss. So you'll drop or climb real quickly to where you belong. First 10-15 games can be a bit one sided one way or the other though. Gl mate
i THINK the asian slur started in vietnam? or maybe ww2 era? but im pretty sure vietnam war
I love how PIG wants to stay monetized so he's putting so much effort into blurring out the ultra bad words and even mispronounces them, like fa-jeot. :D
yeah gotta come up with placeholder words for all of em to appease the YT gods
21000 games ... I hope he is lying because if hes not, he should really try another game.
In Counter-Strike when someone became overly salty I always found it entertaining to talk about all the positions I had sex with their mom (or dad) and how much they were into it (or I was into it in case they were no longer among us). If there is a salt mine in front of you, why not put on your headlamp and grab your pickaxe?
Personally I would improve CheeseMonstas salt-rating to a 2/10 with the late hail mary pass of "eat lots of rat poison".
dog is pretty common in Aus too actually. Especially when paired up so it's "You dog runt!"
goober > noober
+1 to that
Jesus christ, this was painful to watch
That second game is probably how people convince themselves racism is running rampant. I get called the N-word every other day in HotS.
time to cancel PiG. He said the G word once after sidestepping it for 20 minutes
I played against DrZerg recently, who played as random, we had a great game and he definitely didn’t hack. However he did leave without a GG which always look silly when you start the game with gl hf.
I don't really follow your logic. "GL HF" is a friendly statement of intent, you wish your opponent good luck and fun, "GG" is a qualitative statement. I know a lot of internet people these days don't take it literally, but I, and no doubt many others, still like to reserve "GG" for games that were actually good. If I stomp my opponent, I'll never be the first to type GG, if I get stomped by my opponent, I don't always leave with a GG. There can be nothing wrong with a game, but that doesn't make it a good one. When I get really outplayed I prefer to stick with a "WP" for my opponent, as that fits the situation better. Other games I just leave the game without additional typing, as the game was simply unremarkable. I'll always wish my opponents GL HF, but I like my GGs reserved for actual good games.
@@Merthyc yes that’s your way of interpreting GG. But that’s not how the vast majority of people see it. It’s like when someone says “what’s up” you don’t give them your life story, unless you’re on the spectrum.
@@Merthyc The logic is that the demeanor changed because he lost the game. GG is more of a curtesy than a judgement about the quality of the game.
@@ToTheNines87368 I'm not here to argue which interpretation is more or less valid, mate. You can keep finding it silly, I just gave you an explanation as to why some people might not. Either way it's over-reading into a very minor interaction.
@@Merthyc No, over reading into it is what you did imo. You might even be right, but it's sort of a convoluted "what if", when the most likely explanation is probably the simplest one. which is the guy is nice and wants to interact, unless he's in a foul mood after a loss, which is what I find funny when people start a gl hf and then don't gg. Hell I've been in a foul mood myself after a loss and not gg'd its not a big deal, it's just a small observation about sc2 players.
shitty zergs when good terrans beat them: terran is op
shitty terrans when good zergs beat them: zerg is op
Love the contents. Keep em coming. I subscribed with more than one accounts, lol. :D
Does any1 know what I can do to change the border on my account? I am silver border but platinum MMR of 2770. I think there is a bug that gives me a silver border despite me truly being platinum right now, and I fear despite 1v1 matchmaking to similar MMR, the opponent player may think I am a silver league and not try as hard...? I heard leaving the league did not do anything for people in past with similar issues.
that's weird i thought the border issues were gone. Definitely keep playing more games and try leaving league (your MMR will still be the same so don't worry about it resetting progress or anything) - I've heard it just eventually fixes for most people
@@PiGstarcraft Yeah you are right. Today I logged on and it fixed itself.
Your account was just trying to do gibus pyrovision strats to give you the edge lmao
how do you play 20k games and still are in silver lmao
'geek' is a slur for Asians... wat? 😵
EDIT: with 'oo' instead of 'ee'. Never heard or cn that one hmm 🤔
I think CZcams is okay with Anti Asian words. Anti black is a no no.
PiG you need to think about racial insults from the perspective of a racist. I imagine that for them, yelling out racial slurs is a win-win game. If you hit the correct race - great, and if you don't - it's even better since you've both insulted them and said they're not the race they are
haha that's true. Absolute nutters
To understand why people use racial slurs when they don't know their opponent, you need to understand the mindset of the person using the insult. Anyone who uses racial slurs is well... a racist. And in a racist's mind, anyone who isn't their race is automatically inferior. And therefore, being called a member of any other race is an insult... so it doesn't matter if they hit the right ethnic group. To them, being called anything other than their own race is an insult.
Racial insults are used by people who, frankly, are the perfect example of why racial supremacy doesn't really exist.
"the people who drop N bombs with the hard R in games would NEVER say that in real life" looks at pewdiepie
ruined by being offended
The general chat is the most degenerate place I’ve ever seen. They talk about trump and blatant racism constantly. It’s a wild place.
Agree with overall conclusion. On EU server that's mostly severe racism, LGBTQ topics, and how russia is great and how it will conquer the whole world (I guess there are a lot of russian 30-years old kids on the EU Server).
it's wild, they spend so much time chatting I don't know if they ever actually play the game or it's just a chatroom hangout for them
I've been accused of belonging to another gender, to several races and nationalities, of having thoughts and religious/political/social views I never had - and some of that happened to me not only on the internets.
I won't say I don't care at all, but what matters is _they_ don't care of what is real.
yeah ego lashing out wildly to deflect from their own failings, once you understand it for what it is it loses a lot of its power. Then you just get to enjoy the circus show
Most cheating, direct cheating is easy manipulation of data that is recorded. Easy.
Cheating via injects, codes and some exploits are considered cheating.
Other forms of cheating is engine manipulation or hardware manipulation. Ie common cheating method for moat games that involve data centric needs for advantages is map hacks, walling.. these operate by modding the layers directly, hardware render hierarchy change, a overlay process while playing.
Everything else is the same... but you simply know everything and see everything. Usually give aways would be camera over a base or elsewhere without any actual vision, then there is all dar.. see everything on your radar.. then there is data counters, so no map hack but each unit queries a request and you simply read the write data in process and it gives you a live unit count and building count of the enemy.. so you can never be countered... then there is harder cheats..
You use a on off command and an ai can control your mouse for you like a player.. and you can instruct it and turn on different ads for situations, like micro ai bot to manage attacking better... these ate currently undetectable without specialized software, since the ai can relay from another computer and simply direct inputs of movement without a mouse.., but use the same data port quadrant system.. cheating in a un known companion is not cool, cheating in a known system among friends as a prank is funny. Play nice...
I had one a couple games ago that my opponent had quite the mouth on him. Got called homosexual quite a bit.
People really need to stop whining about racial slurs. Sorry, but no one gives a shit when someone calls me a hunky, which was a highly derogative term for an immigrant Pole in the mid 20th century and is still used today by certain privileged classes with absolutely ZERO repercussions or moral outrage.