2020 Subaru Outback Review - New Platform, Same Idea
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- The new Outback might not look all too different, but Subaru put it on a new platform and threw a bunch of new tech in it. So, what effect has it made on the new outback? Let's find out!
CORRECTION: The previous generation 3.6r engine did not require premium fuel, thank you, @ruprick!
Big shoutout to Royal on the Eastside for providing the Outbacks featured in this video. Check out their inventory at Royalontheeastside.com
Thank you Tad Petts and Andrew Walker for helping film this review! Instagram: tadpetts and andrew_jw17.
You’re review was FANTASTIC! So much so, that I subscribed! Good work!
Thank you!
I wanted to buy a 2020 Outback to get the Turbo motor, but I can't deal with that hideous idiotainment screen. I got a 2020 Forester instead. Some old people prefer a few knobs and physical buttons.
Last gen 3.6r did not need Premium.
My bad, I placed a correction in the description, thank you!
Really nice review. Liked and subscribed. You have quite a breadth of Subaru knowledge. I have a Crystal White Pearl Onyx Edition XT on order here in Boise ID. Should be here in about another 4 weeks or so. Looking forward to seeing how it does this winter.
Thank you and congratulations! The turbo engine is certainly the way to go.
".....everything is very easy to get to...." Except for the head gaskets.
Hey, I mentioned it! But lots of brands have their own sets of problems, while Subaru is no Toyota, they are usually pretty problem free with the exception of head gaskets in the past, we'll see how the new design goes. Also, spark plugs on some subies are difficult as well.
@@Realistick Yep. And Toyota has had it share of issues over the years, too. Everything from oil sludge in the V6 to oil consumption on their 2.4-liter engine (bad rings). And then there was that whole "hey, why is my car accelerating thing." From what my Subaru mechanic tells me, the head gasket issues had to do with the type of composite gasket Subaru was using. When they repair the heads, most mechanics go with cork or a rubber gasket. He also says change your oil on time. Many of the cars he seen were driven by owners who waited 7,000 miles or more to change oil. Over time, gas gets in with the oil and when the temps are not hot enough to evaporate via the crank case ventilation system, the oil gets more fuel in it and becomes corrosive to gaskets and seals. This also applies to most small engines, but for some reason the boxer is more prone to failure under these conditions.
Yep. If I had a dollar for every time I've heard "the head gasket problem is old news, they fixed it this time around"...
I wonder if Subaru finally went to a closed deck engine design this time around. If so, the HG thing probably really is fixed. If it is open or semi-closed, you can expect head gasket issues at some point.
@@rabbitruck Probably not, I believe they only do closed deck for ultra high performance models, even then, usually they'd go with semi closed.
Not not having a real button for the auto-start-stop is a deal breaker.
Honestly, I don't blame you, that part of the outback was frustrating. Although, I'd still give it a chance if you were to ever consider one.
Yippie the auto start/stop disable is built into a submenu in the touch screen. You just have to find it. And it turns itself back on every time you start the car.
Yippie yeah. I cancelled my order for the XT because you couldn’t permanently disable the Auto Start/Stop.
Christopher O'Meara sure you did... you canceled an order on a car because of one feature that’s not even a big deal? Makes sense lol.
Wolves Den Gaming May not be a big deal to you.
Great review very thorough! I actually sold my 2016 legacy that I loved because I needed something with more space and this fit my needs and wants perfectly as I didn’t want a huge SUV got the xt and love it!
Finally Turbo is back!!! 185 hp for the base version is weak. I love they keep analog cockpit!!
In EU there will no turbo version. Likely it will be equipped with electric motor, kind of mild hybrid.
So it will deliver around 200 hp which is not bad.
Insane to not be able to permanently shut off the auto start/stop. I have the same problem with a new Crosstrek, and it is very annoying.
Decent review, thank you! Not bad looking either 😎
Glad I came across this video. I considered - for a nanosecond - a 2020 Outback Touring but too many problematic design flaws; e.g., the auto/start stop which has to be disabled every goddamn time I get in the car. No thanks. Again, much appreciation for this timely review.
Yes, and I hate that Subaru would do something like that to it because it truly is a great vehicle, but I can see how that might drive someone elsewhere. In the 2019 Forester, the engine start stop can be deactivated with a button like pretty much all other cars and I don't know why they didn't just do that.
I like your cadence and style. The clarity of your video is second to none as well.
What is your camera setup?
Thank you! I used a Canon M50 with a 15-45, a f/1.8 50mm, and then my friend brought along his Sony A7iii too. My latest videos use only the M50 with a 22 mm and a 32 mm ef m lens. I love the 32! The gopro hero 5 black is the one next to my face during the drive. I also have a ronin s and more recently a slider!
Boxer engine isnt easy to work on especially the spark plugs. Also mazda and most European cars have soft touch down low.
Certain things are difficult like spark plugs, many things are much easier and this is common knowledge among the Subaru community. VW, honda, Toyota, GM, and other subaru products sparsely have soft touch down low.
Great job. You know your Subaru's . I have a 2018 Outback Limited which I love. Great car.
Great review. It is not an SUV. It is a raised wagon.
Thank you! And raised wagon.. SUV.. I can't tell the difference anymore. I'm told a Toyota CHR and a Ford Ecosport are SUVs now so the term has almost lost its identity to me.
It is annoying that at the Onyx price point, it doesn't come with the Harman Kardon system. Note to your viewers, Subaru does offer a Rockford Fosgate amp/speaker upgrade to the Premium and Onyx radios. It's only $599 and definitely improves sound quality and volume levels.
Good note! The 6 speaker system is one of the better stock systems at least, the onyx is based on the premium so that's why you don't get the Harmon kardon system.
Great job,but front mask without paint is no good.
I don't think it had the engine shut off thing before, so there would not have been a button for it before.... honestly, I'm upset they added this stupid feature and it has to be turned off... and big screen with less hard buttons is also a negative. Who do they listen when they do these things ? Isnt their main consumer older folks, and they likely don't want a big ipad in their cars.. I don't !!.. looking forward to test drive the turbo in it, though
Yes, I should have noted it is the 2019 Forester with the button for auto stop start, the 2019 outback didn't have it. Older people do love outbacks but there is a lot of outdoorsy types and regular commuters out there that like them. It was smart of subaru to keep the temperature buttons and volume/tune knobs but it will certainly be an adjustment for the older people. The XT is the model to buy, you might be surprised, thanks for the feedback!
Yes, I should have noted it is the 2019 Forester with the button for auto stop start, the 2019 outback didn't have it. Older people do love outbacks but there is a lot of outdoorsy types and regular commuters out there that like them. It was smart of subaru to keep the temperature buttons and volume/tune knobs but it will certainly be an adjustment for the older people. The XT is the model to buy, you might be surprised, thanks for the feedback!
Nice review! Thank you!
My 2020 onyx xt, is much quicker with high test, and with mine, the lumbar support isn’t as good , as my wife’s 2019 Forrester sport?
I'm glad i just bought one.
Great review
Lumbar support for the passenger too? Thanks!
No, but it does have electronic height adjustments
@@Realistick Thank you!
When I checked Several Subaru dealers’ website, they say fuel economy as 20/27 EPG on turbo model. Subaru America website says 23/30 mpg. What s it?
23/30, that's what subaru has said. 20/27 is for the old 3.6!
Thanks for reply. I checked several Subaru dealers who have inventory of 2020 Outback Onyx Xt model. It is 20/27 mp
@@chansong9862That is incorrect. www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=noform&path=1&year1=2020&year2=2020&make=Subaru&baseModel=Outback&srchtyp=ymm
If you go to any Subaru Dealers websites, who have 2020 Outback XT, You will see 20/27 mpg. It is confusing cause I am interested in buying a XT model .
@@chan-hosong4376 Many dealers use the same information for models, something must be wrong with their information as those are the numbers for the old 3.6R. Subaru's own website and the EPA have the actual numbers up. The window sticker on the XT I drove had the 23/30 as well. From driving it myself too I can report it easily gets those figures!
How bout compared to the Crosstrek? I can't decide lol
Well, both are refined and have their own set of advantages. The Outback is overall a better vehicle to the average person but the unique styling and the comfortable nature of the Crosstrek makes it still a good option. If you dont necessarily need the size or optional turbo and there is a debate between the two (watch my Crosstrek review!) then I would say do not pay for what you do not need!
@@Realistick yea a bit torn. I come from the WRX end and am used to the ups/downs of a turbo charged engine. Love and hate. I wish the outback had more power in a na engine. I'd be happy with 200whp
@@robbiexiong3508 Yeah, I'd definitely recommend the xt for you then. As far as more power from the 2.5, I doubt we will see that but the xt is really a good option for people that want efficiency and power. Just wish you didn't have to pay 35k plus to get one!
Way too much black cladding
I love my 2020 outback
I love Subaru's, one of the many brands using CVT transmissions, constantly having transmission issues, keeps the shop full and making me money while i go home in my Mazda 3 AWD with a 6speed auto getting the same MPG but never having to worry when my transmission is going to blow.
Now with a turbo, they'll be coming in even sooner, Thanks Subaru.
I have a 2015 Mazda3 hatchback. No issues so far.
@@kevinW826 Every costumer that comes in with a Nissan, Subaru or other vehicle with a CVT transmission that has blown, i tell them to go get a Mazda or another car/suv with a regular automatic transmission.
I have (i think) 22 or 23 customers with 2012 or newer Mazda's with no or minor issues, all the while, just about every customer i have that bought a vehicle with a CVT 2008 or newer, has had it replaced once (either here or at the dealer under warranty) or even twice.
Most CVT vehicle's get the same MPG as there regular automatic counterparts, and even those that do get a bit better MPG, you lose all that savings when the transmission goes out.
Some Subaru outbacks, Nissan pathfinders and rogues, Honda CRV's and Honda accords with the 1.5 CVT were only making it 60K before their CVT trans were slipping or just went out. All the while, one of my Mazda customer (a 2013 Mazda 3) has done 210,000 miles with no major issues.
Josh Austerlitz nice. Were the CVTs regularly maintained? The reason I ask is I work with a couple of guys and they have never had issues with their Nissan CVTs. One guy had a 2008 Altima and he traded it in at 330,000 kms. He got himself a Murano last year. The other guy is our maintenance guy. He had a first gen Nissan X-Trail, which is now sold as the Rogue. He had 300,000 kms on it before he traded it in for the first year pathfinder with the CVT. He currently has 200,000 kms on it and no issues.
@@kevinW826 It may have to do with the area one lives, i'm in the mountains near a city with lots of heavy right footers, two things CVTs can't seem to handle very well.
There's so many out there now, some will make it through, but the percentage of them with issues is very high, its a high wear design, like a timing belt, its good for a certain time, but its not designed to be serviced.
All vehicles were regularly maintained at the dealer, but most dealers here don't cover the CVT trans for very long, so alot of them find there way to our shop (sometimes still under a power train warranty, though not covering the transmission "cough cough mostly Subaru and Nissan)
I still can't believe Honda is still using a CVT in there CRV, percentage wise as of this year are the worst, all the while with this hit or miss with CVTs and so many we see coming in (mostly slipping) with issues, while regular automatics are cruising by with little to no issues.
Putting all of that aside though, the big thing for me is gas mileage, most all my new Mazda customers said they saw no difference in gas mileage going from a CVT to a 6 speed auto. one of my customers that bought a civic with the 1.5 CVT said he got 38 MPG, didn't like how it drove, traded it in for the 2.0 10 speed, and now he's getting 37 MPG, with that, one MPG just don't cut it for me. the main reason car makers use CVTs is that they are cheap, less parts then a regular automatic, not because it gets a tiny bit better gas mileage, yes i will admit, rebuilding a CVT trans is a whole lot easier then rebuilding a regular automatic, a Nissan J series CVT rebuild is like 6 hours, where as a normal 6 to 10 speed auto takes like 10 to 16 hours to rebuild.
I know some have been doing well with their CVTs, but on average, you take a much higher chance of transmission issues with a CVT.
@@joshausterlitz3798 I'm so use to driving a cvt that when I drive a regular automatic it pisses me off so bad. Dead spots everywhere and having 2 push so hard to initiate a downshift or having it downshift 4 gears or 5 just to maintain certain highway hills while I gently raise the rpm in a cvt vehicle..
I am concerned about two issues about Subaru: 1. the in-born long-lasting engine oil burn problem (www.subarucomplaints.com/oil-consumption/); 2. quality of the CVT transmission.
Anyone has more information on these problems? Although this commercial gives nice review , I hope that the buyers get unbiased information/facts before they buy.
Check consumer reports! They usually have above average reliability with all things considered, however, they still lag behind Toyota and Lexus overall. There are a lot more reports online, I mentioned the head gasket issue (excessive oil consumption). Time will tell if they fixed it but I've personally seen many high mileage subarus that are fine (I've seen the opposite too). Surprisingly, they haven't had nearly the amount of issues with CVTs that Nissan has despite both being built by Jatco. Toyota has CVTs in corollas and priuses, honda has had CVTs in the civic, both have been reliable so it's not impossible to have reliable CVTs. Again, check consumer reports and others based on a large portion of owners! I hope this helps.
Whew. He a cutie.
The old wheels look better
7:33 😂😂
Snore.....💤💤😴😴. Not the car, you.
I'll try an accent next time if that will help!
@@Realistick Why an accent? Is that some sort of bias joke? Here's what you need to hear then: your delivery was flat many times, you needed better knowledge of the product as you made some errors, your music was timed badly as it played over your voice at times, your voice needs more projection, etc. Stsrt with that of you want to compete with all the other reviewers. Once you master that, then you can worry about "accents".
I'm more than competitive, most of my competition don't mention the stuff that I do and my errors are minor and few in number. I love doing these things and my growing number of followers enjoy it too! If you don't like it then don't watch it🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@Realistick Good. You dropped the racist rhetoric. If you don't like negative criticism, do a better job. I'm free to watch and comment, last I checked. Your video is too long for your deadpanned and inarticulate delivery. Do better.
@@tommymas1I honestly thought you were joking with the first message, bud, so I joked that I'd do an entertaining accent to make you not bored. I'll do better, as I always strive to improve across the board but to say I'm less than fellow reviewers and demeaning. My goal is to give people the important takeaways, detailed info on trims, special features, and most people appreciate what I do. I'm always open to constructive criticism and feedback so long as they aren't an ass about it.
Great review
Thank you for the feedback! I will try to make a shot with the door open in the next one. I was using a new telephoto lens and I liked the look of the door being closed and I tried to incorporate more insert shots but I agree, it looked a little closed off compared to what I've done in the past. My last video, the ridgeline, I tried to open the door but it didn't open enough to look good so sometimes I run into that issue. The blue is beautiful and you are going to love that XT engine, congratulations!