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A Visit to Genesee Valley Center
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2023
- Genesee Valley Center is a surviving shopping mall near Flint MI. However, recent events suggest that maybe this mall isn't doing so well after all. Let's discuss and I'll tell you what I mean.
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I remember in the mid 2000s there was a Disney store and fye in the early 2010s in this mall
The Woolworth's space was a Tilt arcade in the 90s. I spent many, many quarters there.
Me as well!!
You can't grade anywhere based on money!!! It's living beings here with great ideas and a whole lot of tenacity. You won't see the growth until it's too late just like a cheap stock price that goes through the roof!! FLINT IS THE BEST PLACE TO INVEST RIGHT NOW ESPECIALLY WITH ALL OF THE "BAD" Press.
Man this mall has quite the rollercoaster history. And _damn_ Namdar cannot manage a mall.
Yeah, I don't think Namdar has ever managed any of their malls well. Northfield Square(Bradley, which neighbors Kankakee), River Oaks Center(Calumet City), and Ford City are examples of this in the greater Chicago area.
I think Namdar buys them to put them out of business. I'm sure it's a great tax write off 😠😢
Anytime I see Namdar or Kohan manage a mall I just assume that the anchors and in-line tenants will start leaving. It’s basically a death sentence for a shopping mall! Like 5 to 10 years at the very most.
I live in Flint Twp. and I drive past the mall all the time but I've never been in the mall.
This mall was so packed in the 70's, it's sad.
I grew up in flint,grand blanc, burton from 1983 to 1999 when I escaped lol I visited this mall some or the other one I think it's called courtland center maybe now last year I moved back to mi. briefly all of 2022,in hindsight bad idea north of flint in clio but visited my parents a dozen times in flint I only regret 2 things not checking out these malls i kinda lived at 30 years ago and forgetting to see the comic shop I spent maybe 5000 plus dollars at in the 90s lol but life moves fast and I got back out of michigan even faster.
I regret run-on sentences and lack of proper punctuation.
I regret people who either have a mental illness or is a fail ex english teacher to go to a rando normie video,actually read comments and have the time to think anyone has the time or care to grammar police a nothing comment.
Namdar is following Kohan and Moonbeam.
Scary part in Raleigh NC kohan owns a mall here triangle town center he All ready promised the city of Raleigh improvements🙄😬😔
You don't have any solutions. WE'RE A PART OF THE SOLUTION BUSINESS HERE. It's some exciting things happening here and I'm personally a part of that reimagined Flint. Genesee Valley and all of the malls of America can thrive with Augmented Reality fully integrated into the stores.
No need for the critical commentary of Flint and Detroit. Seems pretty classist.
Then Fix it.
@@DoomieGruntVentures I mean, do you even live there? I have lived within 45 minutes of Flint or Detroit, my whole life and neither one of them are as bad as some people think. They’re really just like any other big city, you wouldn’t go to certain areas of any cities and be safe. Flint and Detroit are the same. Especially the part of Flint that the mall is in. And downtown Flint has made massive strides in the last 10 years. It’s just really hard to know and to comment on something properly if you’re only listening to what you hear on the news and not actually in the area frequently.
It's not just half of the food court being closed off it's literally only hibachi Express that serves food up there anymore everyone else left, it's sad but honestly everything except the major store chains will probably close in that mall and after that the major chains will probably leave too
And really I don't think there is any saving this mall, it's literally just the people, people go there to fight all the time people get shot there and that's because of it being in flint I'd rather drive the 45 minutes to somerset mall
I remembered back in the days during the holiday shopping season it would take you a long time to go from one side of the mall to the other, that's how packed it was! I spent most of the time in Sears, Kay-Bee toys, Aladdin's Castle, etc. Anywhere there's video games that is.
Your mysterious mall closings were due to non payment of the water bill by the mall owners and the water company cut them off.
Flint township was also never on the same water system as the famous flint city water incident. Although people talked and joked about it like it was, thus hurting businesses within the area.
It's interesting that your video has so much information and history, yet you choose to leave out arguably the largest news piece that happened only a month before your visit. The 6 person shoot out with automatic guns that happened in the mall in Nov 2021.
It's the end of 2023 and watch the transformation happen in 2024 the mall will stay.Namdar is no longer in charge that's all I'ma say....
Namdar, hired my son to do a patch job on the roof of the Genesee Valley Mall, in the Summer of 2021, My son informed Nadar that the roof needed to be replaced not patched, and Namdar refused and hired another company. Just like the Courtland Mall located in Burton not far from The Genesee Valley both mall's are deterioating rapidly from slum owners and poor management. Company's like Namdar purchase property's and write them off on their taxes as losses instead of putting the money into repairing them and vamping them to thrive. It's sad really, I was born and raised in Flint, MI and The Genesee Valley Mall was an iconic part of my childhood and young life. I wish something could be done about the slum company's that purchase businesses and allow them to deteriorate just for the tax write off.
That breaks my heart. That was the mall I went to my whole life. I bought prom dresses there. I’d take my nieces and nephews there all the time.
Use to go here back in 80's, was busy place then. And yes Flint is worse then Detroit, GM downsizing 89K workers to less then 10K employees and Crack epidemic about finished the town off
I visited the mall with my friend about a month ago and no parts of the mall were shut off to the public. However, I noted H&M had left, and many more stores are starting to leave. Another thing to notice was that dollar sense, a store heavily affected by the water main break, is still boarded up, with all decor still in there. Idk when, but i also visited there recently and the food court looked like a ghosttown with only one stall operating. I really hope this mall doesn't become super dead bc i have alot of memories here.
My first retail job as a teen was at the Victoria's Secret in this mall. Whenever i visit my mom i stop in. It's sad but it's not the worst mall I've seen. They are actually far better off than many Illinois malls. Thanks for this!
Man, i go to this mall all the time. There's still a thriving auntie anne's there, so it's the furthest thing from dead.
Again, Not all the declination is caused by the owners, Most of it yes, but the violence and the shootings at the Mall caused a lot of it's declination, No one wants to get shot while simply out shopping for gifts. If Namdar would have kept their contract with the security company it would have been prevented.
They shouldn't have kicked our the Flint Township police and the in-house security. That's the real problem!
Annndddd there was another shooting there
It's unpredictable sometimes. I thought Concord Mall in Wilmington, DE would be on life support at this point, but the Boscov's end of the mall with ChikFilA is still doing somewhat okay.
I'm Canadian and I've only been to the United States once because of a graduation trip to New York City. I would so love to visit the Concord Mall. It is seriously one of my favourite malls by far that I've seen in the U.S. Love it so much.
While Namdar ownership is usually the Kiss of Death for a mall there are signs the company is cleaning up its act. A couple of months ago Namdar bought two malls in Connecticut and New York from Westfield, as part of the latter's exit from the US market, and they're both successful malls with high occupancy.
Namdar. Say no more
I like the outside of this mall way better than the inside but either way I hope it finds a way to survive. If Macy's and Bath and Body Works keep having loads of customers then it should be good. Good luck Genesee Valley Center.😊
Yeah, this mall isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Silly to think otherwise.
@@supersanic1254 I don't want it to. I want to see as many malls as possible keep going.
I assume the open air shops you walked past in the opening scenes were part of the expansion. The almost same exact looking layout (also with a Barnes and noble) was added on to Monroeville mall about 15 years ago. I assume the same owner at the time, CBL.
I worked at H&M at this mall when it still existed!!!
mmmm darkpop, doom, gloom and mall corpses. It's gonna be a good night
STOP SHOWING WHERE I LIVED 😱
Roger and Me 2.0 LOL
It’s a Ghost Town now
At this rate Dort Mall might outlast GVC haha. I went here in 2020 with my brother and felt weird vibes about it. I did like the outdoor area and the fact the food court was upstairs.I think Courtland Center is my fave Flint mall tbh.
I visited all three Flint malls a little over a year ago, and that was my prediction. Dort, having had to struggle for the longest, seems to have found its niche, whereas Courtland/Eastland Mall is dead in all but final closure and GVC, while still mostly full (outside of the food court) was already looking worn down by Namdar Pseudo-mismanagement (that visit was BEFORE the water main break).
When GM pulled most jobs out of Flint, Flint became somewhat of a ghost town, that not even the ghost wanted to live there. GM was the only thing Flint had going for it. After it was the Auto birth place/
Yes, When Buick City went down Flint lost over 100,000 people to transfers, and people who took the buy out just to get out of Flint, and their leave triggered the blight that swept through and is still sweeping through flint. Abandoned houses, closed businesses and crime followed. God Help Flint if General Motors Pulls the Truck plant out. It really will be a wasteland.
I live 10 miles, and it's been more than 20 years since I've been inside. It still looks like it did then. It needs to be closed and razed, and the land made into something else.
It needs to be repaired and have proper owners and management
Too big, too many empties
Nice video 👋
All malls like this, specially ones owned by such a shady company, won't survive this current recession we're in right now.
This one will be fine, as it is the only one in the area, and most people who live here won't drive 30+ miles to Great Lakes Crossing or Saginaw.
@@supersanic1254 I don’t know about that. With target and all of the other big box stores around and online shopping really taking over, I don’t see this mall lasting. And I am a native of the area so I remember back when it was a thriving mall 20 years ago. It’s a literally a ghost town compared to what it used to be.
This mall looks very nice, It’s definitely on the decline from the looks of it.
Cute