I quit Classic for a while because I missed that mass leveling phase. Came back because Classic's slow progression makes the world feel bigger and more meaningful than in retail.
I generell didnt Played wow since wrath but my Main time was tbc, so i started with retail some month ago because of corona, unaware of what even the Max level Was 😂 i played a warrior like always and was shocked that i could kill hogger on my own an that i finished forrest of elwynn in like 20 minutes. Than i found out about the dungeon Browser and rushed through them, cleared Molten core unaware of its even molten core because as a kid i never made it this far. Than i just played classic für 10 Minuten and thought, fuck this is it. How shitty was it to level a warrior. All the memories. Not having a mount for days and days of playtime. Wonderful
@@cencil6497 It's no more a "real" MMO than any other MMO. Get out of here with that. Classic has been and always will be people with rose tinted glasses on that can't handle change. The world of gaming has shifted in the last 15 years and Classic just isn't good anymore. It worked back when it came out, butthe climate of gaming has changed completely. Classic consists of hardcore try-hard players, people using dungeons to boost instead of enjoying them, and elitists-- the same thing retail is full of. You can't fix the community and it will never be the way it way it was back then. Plus, let's not pretend that Classic didn't have massive problems of it's own. I like that people can go back and enjoy the game they loved and get that nostalgia fix, but this Vanilla WoW elitism is just... gross.
Same here, then phase 2 massacre made me quit lmfao, I should come back, but kinda would rather just wait for TBC at this point. Esp sinc it's the first wow I played not Classic.
Would have love to kept playing classic but between the uni and work I've got no time. Don't worry Arthas, once WOTLK Classic comes out I'll meet you again pal :D
I was debating resubbing just so I could lvl my toons on classic just in case they do decide to go through TBC and Wotlk. But I figured lvling through each expansion would have a different feel, and more quests get added for lower lvl players in TBC so I’ll probably just wait.
The thing that keeps me coming back is that the game is genuinely engaging. Getting a level feels good, getting a new item feels good, and the fact that I actually have to put time and effort into my characters leaves me a lot more invested in them. It's funny, I look at BFA and I've got a 120 or 2 of everything, and I care about maybe 1 or 2 of those characters, theres just no investment. Meanwhile my handful of 60s in classic are like "yeah it took a lot of time and effort to get those 60s, and a lot of time and effort to get gear on them."
@@FecalMatador i stopped playing retail actively myself and went to classic. I'm just asking him has he done the content on retail that is actually a challenge or engaging, min/maxing mythic plus feels amazing when you push your new best + and mythic nyalotha has a few really cool bosses. After that i cant see how is classic engaging as its just a grindfest, a much slower one than live.
@@FecalMatador You're implying people on classic don't behave the same way. Do you have all orange parses and your guild top 5 in speed for all raids on your server?
9@@crysosisback7115 For sure. I had actually started playing very end of Vanilla so TBC was when it got real for me. Looking forward to it (Arenas yum)
Yeah, in bfa you speed through the leveling and the game rushes you to max level. There’s no time to take in the world or feel enjoyment from reaching certain milestones.
Nice video, thanks for sharing! I just recently started classic again after years of not playing. This was WoW to me, and I don't really mind the grind. Running through the Deadmines is one of my favorite instances in the game.
Class quests are reaaaaally needed on retail. Like, fine, have most spells learned magically as you level up. But let's reaaaally do something for those really special and very iconic spells each class has.
In Shadowlands, from what I could play on PTR (one of the quests is glitched thanks to hunters so you can only get so far unless you play AT server reset time), they had class specific quests to unlock specific spells. The two I got to play were Druid and Shaman. On Druid you had a quest to unlock your travel form, while on Shaman a quest to unlock your spirit wolf form. And they were really well designed from a class flavor standpoint, and a lore of the island standpoint. They were a bit on the short end, but they are still tutorial quests after all.
Legion went above and beyond that and they trashed it during BfA with that “bring the player not the class” bs that then they changed again with “bring the class” by giving us back spells like eye of the beast, demonic circle, mirror image and such
@@kennygallagher4700 Ya I'm not sure I'll give shadowlands a try. I jumped on retail last week because I was thinking about doing Shadowlands. Everything was just... off.. especially the attack animations were super annoying and didn't feel good. The core of the game doesn't work for me.
i have an absolutely amazing guild that makes me come back to the game, we recently had our 1 year aniversery with drinking games, pub quizzes, races and deathrolling
7:45 the gear struggle is what makes classic so amazing. I grinded SM Armory 43 times in a row for my ravager. It was about 6-7am and as soon as I got it, I threw my sweaty self in the bed and the best sleep I'd had in a couple weeks.
@@CIA.Langley Yea but what is the point of life at the end of the day? I feel it is to reach happiness, and while some might not understand the happiness in grinding for pixels, I do. Money doesn't interest me past what is minimum for living, considering human life is short and can end or change radically in the snap of the fingers.
@@CIA.Langley I reckon speedguy20 has a comfortable income and is more into entertainment and self realisation. If you live in poverty, however, you're absolutely right about looking into time management and maximising income, to sort your financial situation. Once done you can focus on what makes you happy, be it playing games, watching football or tasting wine.
Great vid WillE! A lot of what you mention is what I love about classic too, I hope there's still a thriving community to do all these raids and dungeons after TBC releases which is where the majority will end up going
Man, even though I can't seem to find the class I enjoy playing in Classic and therefore I don't care a whole bunch about the game (yet), I'm so stoked to see you upload a video. Just listening to whatever you have to say makes my day. Thank you :)
Have you tried a Hunter past lvl10? Its the only class that I can ever get into. Its what I play on classic and retail. It really fits my play style due to the pet being like a tank of sorts. That way I can sit back and deal ranged damage and heal the pet as needed. Classic hunter has a much slower start but its very rewarding and the pet "care" is much more in depth than retail. Anyway I'm rambling now lol. Have fun out there!
@@caymanhilldesigns453 I can see what you mean. But as with most things in Classic the thought behind the class is supercool, just when I play it for a while it's quickly not fun to me anymore hehe, regardless of how motivated and hyped I am when I start playing. But slowly my chars are getting leveled and perhaps past a certain level one of them will convince me to actually start raiding some day haha.
Took a long 8 month break from CLASSIC due to family/personal issues. Wanted to come back, but felt supet lost and my guild imploded after a Binding dropped and drama ensued. I'm slowing getting back into it thanks to your videos. I might even reroll on a pve server because I love leveling more than pvp. All my old guildies are gone, but even playing alone will be fun as long as I dont have to worry about getting ganked 90% of the time.
Well after a full day watching many many of your Vids I've decided to give Classic a try. I played WoW 2007 - 2010 so this should be a blast from the past. Many thanks for the content.
I don't play Classic often, especially since I'm trying to get Azeroth's Champion on retail, but it is fun sometimes playing a slower, more methodical game. In retail I find that most of the challenge is in the execution but on Classic it seems to be in the preparation, so quite different paradigms.
yeah, the botters are the biggest issue by far. The min maxers are really a non issue once you find a community that just doesn't care about that shit.
I'd love this game even more if I could actually find a guild, most of the people that I run into have the retail mentality where if you're not a Raider your second class citizen and they ignore someone who's not important and that just pisses me off to no end.
On Pyrewood Village, Horde side, there are plenty social guilds with cool people, and many excellent PuGs. There are also several well organized guilds where you can raid every two Weeks or whatever suits you.
if raiding is not your thing you should still be able to find a good casual/social guild, theres usually one or 2 big ones on each server. A lot of raiding guilds will take socials/pvpers too. You could also make your own - you'd be surprised at how easily you can find like minded people if you have a good recruitment msg to post. Also, you should try raiding - you can easily pug ZG or AQ20 and they are both super fun and reasonably quick raids. I raid on my rogue but have a warrior "non-raiding" alt that i just run dungeons and farm and pvp on, and I have just run a couple of ZGs and AQ20s on it to get stuff like a good 2h. Raiding is really fun and accessible in classic tbh.
@@Noface121 you will need discord but just to listen to the raid leader, dont need a mic. in the game you would want the addon deadlybossmods, but thats really the only essential. raiding is really very easy, most of the fights before AQ are really straightforward and watching a 15 minute youtube video before the raid and listening to your raid leader is all you need to do to succeed. most reasonable sized servers have a pretty active pugging scene, especially for MC/BWL and the 20 man raids since a lot of guilds aren't farming those anymore necessarily. joining a casual guild is also a good option. Raiding is piss easy in classic and you will enjoy the feeling of getting heaps of nice new purple gear if you havent raided before.
Good video as always, keep coming back to watch your videos each time I get notification :) good luck leveling your warrior, many people say it's pain but I loved every moment of it! Just make sure to always have minor speed on boots and first aid at max lol, it'll make questing etc so much easier ^^ (And save the damn Diamond Flask xD) I leveled my warrior up when p2 and world pvp hit, yes it was hard sometimes, but damn it got fun after lvl30 or so :)!
Recently there were server news on the Pyrewood discord server regarding a player who had lvled 1 class of each class to 60, which set me off to try something similar too: I have only gotten my main and 1 mage alt to 60, but now I've started a challenge for myself to lvl 1 of each race, and 1 of each class (starting with nelf druid), and to try something different with each one - for instance lvling in zones I usually avoid or dislike, trying new professions (only ever had skinning and mining previously, since Classic I've been going blacksmithing to completion and with alts slowly dipping into engineering, alchemy, and herbalism ... so far!) TLDR; Trying something new in this game is really eye-opening and enjoyable.
@@Quitarstudent No, all races as in horde and alliance. My warrior (main) and mage alt are both humans, so now I am gonna lvl 1 of each race and 1 of each class. I play on Pyrewood (pve), so I can do all on one server.
I love watching your videos and following on all things Classic WoW. I can't bring myself to play again (fear of addiction like 2004? or am I getting too old and my attention span sucks). Either way, I really appreciate all your hard work bro.
No titanforges, however something to note: if youre hunting absolute BiS in retail, most classes need specific items from specific dungeons, raids, and even PvP. I'm probably one of the few that CAN name every item on my Monk, because its BiS, not just random gear thats slightly better than my last stuff. In defense of retail, this is one argument I hate the most because gear DOES matter in retail. I cant tell you how many times I beat the shit out of king mechagon just to get the hyperthread bracers that reduce CDs for my mage. And my damage skyrocketed 15% higher than it was from that item alone, I can even tell you the day I got that item.
Same here i'm a levelholic, Always love lvling up new Characters in Classic and Retail for all Expansions except the last 2 new once. The craziest was MoP when I had one lvl 90 Class and race for both horde and Alliance :P
Right now I'm on a mission to get as many characters to level 35 with 250 tailoring so I can make mooncloth and stack up my main with all bottomless bags
Classic is good because you know your time isn't being wasted. Every raid is relevant throughout the game. Imagine Uldir being good because the pants for Taloc are bis despite a lack of item level
I'm on Horde side in Pyrewood and even though our population is lower than the Ally, it's amazing how massively my alt leveling experience differs from the experience of my friend who is currently leveling an ally on a large pop PvP server. He's struggling to find any dungeon groups during peak times that aren't boosts, while I've rarely had trouble finding groups even as dps. Strange how the same game can encourage such widely differing community priorities and mindsets just by flipping the world PvP switch on or off.
I leveled every Horde class to level 60, and also got all professions to 300 with a specialization where available. That's all I really wanted to do in Classic so I canceled my account shortly after that and am going to the backlog of other games I'm interested that I bought on sale during the last year. I did it all (except the main) solo questing, just to show that it could be done all the way to 60 with every class (so long as you have rested xp all the way), although I did need the Silithus quests that weren't in at launch to finish most of the characters that way (though if I had known I'd needed them, I probably could have done more of the annoying quests I skipped along the way). I did not level a Paladin partly because a lot of the reason I was leveling all the classes was to have a mini-guild of my own characters helping each other out, and the Paladin wouldn't have been getting any help. They also absolutely suck, or at least did in Vanilla, at doing quests solo; the highest I got one back in Vanilla was mid 30s. I'll definitely be leveling a Blood Elf Paladin if we get to TBC on the same server. The only thing I wish I had thought of was to make my enchanter on a different account so that I could enchant my own gear on all my characters, although that obviously would add the RL cost of playing. My main did raid MC and a little bit of BWL, but I just didn't like having to do the farming for consumables and I hated the world buff meta. While that will be better in TBC, especially if they start with the consumables overhaul instead of allowing all of them at once like they did to start, I also didn't particularly enjoy raiding anyway. Maybe it's having done some raids in MoP where there were bosses with actual mechanics, maybe it was picking a class that just cast the same spell over and over in raids, maybe it's just that I don't like having to plan time around other people's schedules; whatever it is, it's just not something I really liked doing compared to leveling. I don't even know if I'm going to level all my characters to 70 in TBC, or if I'm even going to play at all, simply because I saw TBC from the start the first time around, while I only saw the latter parts of Vanilla and so missed the chance to level while that was new content. By the end of the initial run of TBC I had most classes to 70, so there's just no compelling reason for me to do it again like there was with Vanilla.
I love how different my character feels in each spec despite being based around many of the same spells. Now I have a really strong gear set for healing on my priest I'm working on my shadow set - it's like having a built in alt. How I play the game changes dramatically, what I can solo, what I do in teams, how I tackle a raid, all different but still my keybinds are 95% the same - the class design in classic (altthough it could do with some re-tuning) is really really fantastic.
What keeps me coming back? I do what I want in the game, and it's really freeing. I play on an "ironman", so to speak, no trading, no ah, no groups, and I do completionist stuff - getting gear, pets, fishing items and reputations. I've found the sandbox in the theme park, so to say, and it really made me love the game again.
I want to get back into classic, but with no goals or friends, and the open world more or less dead for doing dungeons and quests (from what I had seen the last time I attempted to play) I have all but given up on making it to 60.
I keep seeing the same.. Some say it's not because of boosting, but... it is! When I leveled my 3rd char, I basically struggeld to find any players for group or elite quests. There were lot of players in my level bracket, but lot of them were inside dungeons with 60s and not leveling in Wetlands or Arathi Highlands. It gets better at high levels though, since there is no boosting in dungeons there. If you can manage to get to around level 50, I'd recommend leveling that character. Playing around max level is still a good community experience.
Weirdly leveling during classic (at the start) was the most fun I had with it, as it was the most varied time to play. One day you might be leveling through wetlands in a group of absolute legends at the elite quests in the north, the next you're in RFK with a tank who never played wow prior to the threat changes and, as a resto druid, are calling the shots on how to tank. Level 60 dungeons were fun at the start but since everything (gear, mats, dungeon routes, class specs) have been "optimized", it just feels monotonous now - nothing is a surprise any more. Raids felt the same every week, dungeons were repetitive, and PvP was either Vs premades or rush boss.
Yeah i agree i've leveled to 60 on private servers twice and now 2 times on classic aswell and yeah it just seems the end game doesnt keep me interested but man is the leveling addictive
My guild just killed Viscidus for the first time and the Sharpened Silithid Femur dropped and I won it on my warlock, gotta say haven't felt so happy about gear in retail in a looonngg time.
Try to watch something on your second monitor and just farm mobs,there are guides where you just over farm specific mobs in a specific zone.You farm gold to get your epic mount and you dont have to pay attention to quests
Although I don't play classic I do owe it a lot of thanks. After playing classic for 2 months it made me try retail again and appreciate how much better the game is now, yes, even the abomination that is BfA is preferable over classic to me.
Why classic wow is top: 1) you can’t make wrong or bad decision. Since there are a lot of information of wow classic, and you know which class is best, which gear is strongest, how to farm gold, how to lvl up, how to kill bosses. Since you know the future, you can make decision which is best acceptable for you. It is like if you go to school again when you are adult. You know how to study and what will be useful in life. And will just enjoy your time with friends =). 2) classic is easy, it is time-consuming but it is easy for average gamer, since you have a lot of game experience. You will always feel the great, since you are always wining. 3) it is relaxing. Let’s be honest retail wow is like second job, where you do tasks without joy. Mythic raiding is like sport, you spent a lot of time to prepare yourself and then during raiding time you spent hours to do the same pulls and have negative impact on your health (siting a lot, eye problems and so on). It is not playing for fun, you can not bring your friends and in a good mood kill bosses. You must be focused, stressed, do complex mechanics, you can not let you just play, you need to give all the best in retail. Or LFR is your home. While in classic you can spam one button and feel nice. The game should be about FUN and not about ratings. 4) developing creative ways to entertain yourself. In retail wow there is dailies, weekly chests, assaults, visions, achievements, brawlers, secrets, non-stop keys. So you enter the game and system suggests you what you can do. You can switch off your brain and just manually do what wow says, and you always will have something to do. While in classic you can come to the end and have nothing to do. Then your mind and creativity comes. You can make speedruns, you can make events, make tournaments, create challenges (like iron man challenge) and so on. As sponge bob said “imagination”. And I think it is a key to play wow classic. And this is great. And that is why games like Minecraft is popular, use your imagination and creativity. Or develop it. 5) know your history or you are doomed to repeat it. Wow is great game with huge history. So it is great to experience how it started. And it will make you value some retail things, If you play both retail and classic. We are growing, the time can not be stopped. So it very pleasant to experience good old days and move on.
ppl sayin that leveling is dead, but they never played on Gehennas server. Gehennas server has a huge world pvp and comunity that are still leveling. WillE, idk if you know about horde united vs alliance, but you should make a video about it :)
I think for a lot of people what keeps them coming back is the relationships you form within the game. The games content is fairly trivial for the most part so its more about building comradery between people.
I am of the opinion that the only class leveling should be the gaining of new abilities, and each of those should have its own quest or quest line, and mostly have prerequisites of other abilities. Ditto for Talents. Generally characters should stay numerically within the same range, and only gain numerical advantage through increase of attributes and skills, and the Class Skills (e.g. Fire, Ice and Arcane for Mage) should only increase through use, much like weapons skills. Gear should only provide some basic protective assistance proportional to the scale of character stats, and should not be an endless mill of attribute increases. Enchantments or specifically magical items are fine, so long as those don't contribute to more than perhaps a quarter or a fifth of the total scale, and improvements of one gear set over the last should be incremental. Like this next better set of armor provides you one more point of protection (per gear location). Mobs throughout the world should be similarly scaled, and their numerical power should have more to do with their size, skill, supernatural power than some arbitrary zone or dungeon level.
You play on my realm I main a warrior called Kushington, love your videos man, pryewood is a dope relam been there since I started classic, also there's a addon called autocarrot that auto puts anything on that increases your riding speed once you mount up
I played classic when it was released and stopped after 2 months. I picked warlock because of you ! I stopped because classic is too good. It was too addictive it was hurting my life. My problem with wow classic is that its too good.
Played classic back in the day and fell off in BC, never made it to end game and now I'm back in classic trying to get my first ever 60 so I guess its a lot more than nostalgia for me, I'm still wrapping my head around the game for the first time. Its quite difficult with the min/max culture going on as a "new" player. Desperate for questing friends but nobody even quests anymore...
What keeps me coming back? I was lucky to join a great guild on the 3rd or 4th day of launch, and most of the people I became friends with in guild, still play too. There's is also very little guild drama, and when there is, discord is full of meme's about it after so we can all have a great laugh!
I started playing on launch cause I started WoW in Wrath, so never really got to experience Classic. I quit by October, partly because my guild fell apart..... Twice, but mostly because it's a genuine remake of a 15 year old game and it shows.
The combat feel! It’s the reason I can’t play retail. Perfect example, wind fury and flurry. In classic it feels SO GOOD to crit, get a wind fury proc, and have flurry proc. In retail every ability feels the same; lacks that “gritty” feel. If they changed that I’d probably go back to retail, or at least play it once in awhile.
Classic combat has real impact in it's big hits, and you feel it with every upgrade you get making a significant increase. It's not unlikely you can sometimes delete a mob or person with a series of lucky crits and it feels so good. Retail is so restricted every fight feels stale and slow and it's just an aoe fest of spamming skills and avoiding aoe blobs.
It now just came to my mind that in my personal crusade for a Classic+ version of the game (which is never going to happen, I know) I have to simply consider Classic as an option for an Endless Warcraft, in the sense that as long as servers are live and with enough players I can take my sweet time at leveling, questing, raiding, etc. Maybe one day I'll tackle Naxxramas as well...
once, back in the day, i made a new n.elf rogue. i did my intro corner and went to the capitol to pick up some items a mailed and stash some stuff in the bank when dragonslayer popped. it tripled my dps. i got to 10 in no time.
I really liked playing classic WoW but the all min maxing experience pissed me off. Was playing a warlock and it was pretty hard to find parties for dungeon leveling. The worst part came once i hit 60. For all dungeons/ raids players prefer the same 3 classes warrior/mage/priest. If you are one of those yea sure you will have the best experience grinding for your gear but if you play something else you are going to have a real bad time finding groups. I remember searching for groups for hours to do dungeons and that was the moment for me to give up on the game.
Is Pyrewood Village my best bet at getting a relatively authentic levelling experience in terms of finding groups and a non try-hard guild? I’ve just started on Earthshaker as I heard it was okayish, but now I’m thinking Pyrewood Village might be best for this experience
Been on the fence. PLayed 2 months after launch, stopped due to stuff. Asked Blizz for a 2 day trial, I went on my 35 horde only to see the server is like 99% horde. THat's not fun. idk if I wanna come back and make a new toon on a server, or not since I don't want this to happen again
1:00 Me too. I'm almost there. I'm at lvl 401 of 480 (total for all chars) to get to full 60's. That my shammy will get to 60 in the comming days and then the last 4 are in the midt 40's
I personally hit 60, cleared MC once for nostalgia, quit during phase two as the community did a total 180 and become one of the most toxic communities I was a part of. The game hasn't changed, its the mentality of modern players affecting how the game is played. I'm happy for the people still playing, but everytime I look in with streamers or youtube or reddit, its just constant drama. Most MMO'S have drama, but for classic, the main component IS drama. Went back to retail/playing other shit. A similar situation happened with OSRS, with the mentality of maximum efficiency- no fun allowed- but its dropped off but some people still clutch to that. *EDIT* I have to say, the levelling experience and the community experience prior to phase 2 was one of the most fun I have had with gaming in years.
I stopped playing for a while because the game felt stale and it wasnt fun anymore, then i realised that its because i was only raiding and have started enjoying the game again because im just taking my time to level lots of alts
Raiding CD doing them Off cooldown and atm im Farming the Winterspring mount that was one of my Goal in Classic next to having füll bis on my Main and doing every Dungeon / Raid
They always said that class quests where a waste of time because they were only doable by a fraction of the population. Imagine if someone told them that people like alts... XD And anyway, at least a solution like Legion Artifact quests would have been a good compromise. Re-using parts of those very quests for different classes would have been better than nothing.
I quit Classic for a while because I missed that mass leveling phase. Came back because Classic's slow progression makes the world feel bigger and more meaningful than in retail.
I generell didnt Played wow since wrath but my Main time was tbc, so i started with retail some month ago because of corona, unaware of what even the Max level Was 😂 i played a warrior like always and was shocked that i could kill hogger on my own an that i finished forrest of elwynn in like 20 minutes. Than i found out about the dungeon Browser and rushed through them, cleared Molten core unaware of its even molten core because as a kid i never made it this far. Than i just played classic für 10 Minuten and thought, fuck this is it. How shitty was it to level a warrior. All the memories. Not having a mount for days and days of playtime. Wonderful
@@Bayer04lev Exactly. Classic WoW is a *real* MMO.
You hit the pin on its head. I enjoy classic because of that and I sort of despise other new MMOs due to that...
@@cencil6497 It's no more a "real" MMO than any other MMO. Get out of here with that.
Classic has been and always will be people with rose tinted glasses on that can't handle change. The world of gaming has shifted in the last 15 years and Classic just isn't good anymore. It worked back when it came out, butthe climate of gaming has changed completely. Classic consists of hardcore try-hard players, people using dungeons to boost instead of enjoying them, and elitists-- the same thing retail is full of. You can't fix the community and it will never be the way it way it was back then. Plus, let's not pretend that Classic didn't have massive problems of it's own. I like that people can go back and enjoy the game they loved and get that nostalgia fix, but this Vanilla WoW elitism is just... gross.
@@sarkaztik3228 TLDR sorry, the numbers don't lie
Just thought I would let you know that you're the reason I got back into classic :) Thank you for that
Same here, then phase 2 massacre made me quit lmfao, I should come back, but kinda would rather just wait for TBC at this point. Esp sinc it's the first wow I played not Classic.
Enjoy! :)
@@NachozMan you need a lvl 60 if you havent already though :D. you can do some prepping
@@NachozMan Why not come back just to level a character for TBC? I know a lot of people that are getting classes ready!
@@NachozMan just lvl alts man!!!
Willie one of my favorite WoW youtubers atm, def deserves more recognition.
Would have love to kept playing classic but between the uni and work I've got no time. Don't worry Arthas, once WOTLK Classic comes out I'll meet you again pal :D
I was debating resubbing just so I could lvl my toons on classic just in case they do decide to go through TBC and Wotlk. But I figured lvling through each expansion would have a different feel, and more quests get added for lower lvl players in TBC so I’ll probably just wait.
@@FecalMatador the main difference is
that fly point in camp for alliance in SVT
The thing that keeps me coming back is that the game is genuinely engaging. Getting a level feels good, getting a new item feels good, and the fact that I actually have to put time and effort into my characters leaves me a lot more invested in them. It's funny, I look at BFA and I've got a 120 or 2 of everything, and I care about maybe 1 or 2 of those characters, theres just no investment. Meanwhile my handful of 60s in classic are like "yeah it took a lot of time and effort to get those 60s, and a lot of time and effort to get gear on them."
What is your current mythic nyalotha prog and raider io score? Just curious.
Totally agree on every point, nothing about retail is engaging whatsoever.
Eugen Zupa you’re part of the problem
@@FecalMatador i stopped playing retail actively myself and went to classic. I'm just asking him has he done the content on retail that is actually a challenge or engaging, min/maxing mythic plus feels amazing when you push your new best + and mythic nyalotha has a few really cool bosses.
After that i cant see how is classic engaging as its just a grindfest, a much slower one than live.
@@FecalMatador You're implying people on classic don't behave the same way. Do you have all orange parses and your guild top 5 in speed for all raids on your server?
It really is: at first it is alot slowpaced compared to legion or bfa but every move so much valuable (both combat and gearing paths alike)
When TBC comes out, it'll be my top MMORPG.
9@@crysosisback7115 For sure. I had actually started playing very end of Vanilla so TBC was when it got real for me. Looking forward to it (Arenas yum)
Every move means not much when there is x5 population of Vanilla WoW in play.
@@antonywhatever572 More of a comparison between Classic and Retail
Yeah, in bfa you speed through the leveling and the game rushes you to max level. There’s no time to take in the world or feel enjoyment from reaching certain milestones.
Nice video, thanks for sharing! I just recently started classic again after years of not playing. This was WoW to me, and I don't really mind the grind. Running through the Deadmines is one of my favorite instances in the game.
Shootout to our very own Pyrewood Village portal queen Nethielka
I'm only here for Nethielka..... Choo Choo
Legend
Awwwwwww
Class quests are reaaaaally needed on retail. Like, fine, have most spells learned magically as you level up. But let's reaaaally do something for those really special and very iconic spells each class has.
In Shadowlands, from what I could play on PTR (one of the quests is glitched thanks to hunters so you can only get so far unless you play AT server reset time), they had class specific quests to unlock specific spells.
The two I got to play were Druid and Shaman. On Druid you had a quest to unlock your travel form, while on Shaman a quest to unlock your spirit wolf form. And they were really well designed from a class flavor standpoint, and a lore of the island standpoint. They were a bit on the short end, but they are still tutorial quests after all.
Legion went above and beyond that and they trashed it during BfA with that “bring the player not the class” bs that then they changed again with “bring the class” by giving us back spells like eye of the beast, demonic circle, mirror image and such
@@kennygallagher4700 Ya I'm not sure I'll give shadowlands a try. I jumped on retail last week because I was thinking about doing Shadowlands. Everything was just... off.. especially the attack animations were super annoying and didn't feel good. The core of the game doesn't work for me.
i have an absolutely amazing guild that makes me come back to the game, we recently had our 1 year aniversery with drinking games, pub quizzes, races and deathrolling
If it wasn't for the lvling experience, I wouldn't even be playing the game.
7:45 the gear struggle is what makes classic so amazing. I grinded SM Armory 43 times in a row for my ravager. It was about 6-7am and as soon as I got it, I threw my sweaty self in the bed and the best sleep I'd had in a couple weeks.
speedguy20 LoL all of that for a virtual game that gives you no income? Good luck.
If it was fun in the end then it was time well spent
1un4cy lmao what a naive silly way of thinking. Not all things “fun” are worth it. You need to learn about time management.
@@CIA.Langley Yea but what is the point of life at the end of the day? I feel it is to reach happiness, and while some might not understand the happiness in grinding for pixels, I do. Money doesn't interest me past what is minimum for living, considering human life is short and can end or change radically in the snap of the fingers.
@@CIA.Langley I reckon speedguy20 has a comfortable income and is more into entertainment and self realisation. If you live in poverty, however, you're absolutely right about looking into time management and maximising income, to sort your financial situation. Once done you can focus on what makes you happy, be it playing games, watching football or tasting wine.
Great vid WillE! A lot of what you mention is what I love about classic too, I hope there's still a thriving community to do all these raids and dungeons after TBC releases which is where the majority will end up going
Man, even though I can't seem to find the class I enjoy playing in Classic and therefore I don't care a whole bunch about the game (yet), I'm so stoked to see you upload a video. Just listening to whatever you have to say makes my day. Thank you :)
Have you tried a Hunter past lvl10? Its the only class that I can ever get into. Its what I play on classic and retail. It really fits my play style due to the pet being like a tank of sorts. That way I can sit back and deal ranged damage and heal the pet as needed. Classic hunter has a much slower start but its very rewarding and the pet "care" is much more in depth than retail. Anyway I'm rambling now lol. Have fun out there!
@@caymanhilldesigns453 I can see what you mean. But as with most things in Classic the thought behind the class is supercool, just when I play it for a while it's quickly not fun to me anymore hehe, regardless of how motivated and hyped I am when I start playing. But slowly my chars are getting leveled and perhaps past a certain level one of them will convince me to actually start raiding some day haha.
Took a long 8 month break from CLASSIC due to family/personal issues. Wanted to come back, but felt supet lost and my guild imploded after a Binding dropped and drama ensued. I'm slowing getting back into it thanks to your videos. I might even reroll on a pve server because I love leveling more than pvp. All my old guildies are gone, but even playing alone will be fun as long as I dont have to worry about getting ganked 90% of the time.
Well after a full day watching many many of your Vids I've decided to give Classic a try. I played WoW 2007 - 2010 so this should be a blast from the past. Many thanks for the content.
+1 for solo content in an mmorpg. Mage tower was really fun!
Finally a non-rant video
This, I like !
Thanks for the gnome helping me get fishing skill willie!
I don't play Classic often, especially since I'm trying to get Azeroth's Champion on retail, but it is fun sometimes playing a slower, more methodical game.
In retail I find that most of the challenge is in the execution but on Classic it seems to be in the preparation, so quite different paradigms.
People still play retail? :o
@@johannezej8002 ☺
It was great in 2019 but the min maxers botters sweaters taking over classic wow in 2020.
yeah, the botters are the biggest issue by far. The min maxers are really a non issue once you find a community that just doesn't care about that shit.
I'd love this game even more if I could actually find a guild, most of the people that I run into have the retail mentality where if you're not a Raider your second class citizen and they ignore someone who's not important and that just pisses me off to no end.
What server are you playing on? On razorgore alliance it's the other way around, it's hard to find people to recruit!
On Pyrewood Village, Horde side, there are plenty social guilds with cool people, and many excellent PuGs. There are also several well organized guilds where you can raid every two Weeks or whatever suits you.
if raiding is not your thing you should still be able to find a good casual/social guild, theres usually one or 2 big ones on each server. A lot of raiding guilds will take socials/pvpers too. You could also make your own - you'd be surprised at how easily you can find like minded people if you have a good recruitment msg to post.
Also, you should try raiding - you can easily pug ZG or AQ20 and they are both super fun and reasonably quick raids. I raid on my rogue but have a warrior "non-raiding" alt that i just run dungeons and farm and pvp on, and I have just run a couple of ZGs and AQ20s on it to get stuff like a good 2h. Raiding is really fun and accessible in classic tbh.
@@daaaannk4362 Is software outside of the game expected for pug raids? Mic stuff etc?
@@Noface121 you will need discord but just to listen to the raid leader, dont need a mic. in the game you would want the addon deadlybossmods, but thats really the only essential. raiding is really very easy, most of the fights before AQ are really straightforward and watching a 15 minute youtube video before the raid and listening to your raid leader is all you need to do to succeed. most reasonable sized servers have a pretty active pugging scene, especially for MC/BWL and the 20 man raids since a lot of guilds aren't farming those anymore necessarily. joining a casual guild is also a good option.
Raiding is piss easy in classic and you will enjoy the feeling of getting heaps of nice new purple gear if you havent raided before.
Good video as always, keep coming back to watch your videos each time I get notification :) good luck leveling your warrior, many people say it's pain but I loved every moment of it!
Just make sure to always have minor speed on boots and first aid at max lol, it'll make questing etc so much easier ^^ (And save the damn Diamond Flask xD)
I leveled my warrior up when p2 and world pvp hit, yes it was hard sometimes, but damn it got fun after lvl30 or so :)!
Recently there were server news on the Pyrewood discord server regarding a player who had lvled 1 class of each class to 60, which set me off to try something similar too: I have only gotten my main and 1 mage alt to 60, but now I've started a challenge for myself to lvl 1 of each race, and 1 of each class (starting with nelf druid), and to try something different with each one - for instance lvling in zones I usually avoid or dislike, trying new professions (only ever had skinning and mining previously, since Classic I've been going blacksmithing to completion and with alts slowly dipping into engineering, alchemy, and herbalism ... so far!)
TLDR; Trying something new in this game is really eye-opening and enjoyable.
each class i get it, but why each race as in you want ot have all 4 different races with those classes?
@@Quitarstudent No, all races as in horde and alliance. My warrior (main) and mage alt are both humans, so now I am gonna lvl 1 of each race and 1 of each class. I play on Pyrewood (pve), so I can do all on one server.
This Gnomish Face From Hell i gonna like :D
@WillE Please always remember to equip your parachute cloak when you use the gnomer tele.
I love watching your videos and following on all things Classic WoW. I can't bring myself to play again (fear of addiction like 2004? or am I getting too old and my attention span sucks). Either way, I really appreciate all your hard work bro.
Player progression matters alot more in classic is what draws in. Retail no tier gear, random mythic titanforge can be better then raid bosses
there are no titanforges anymore
@@Azzehs Blizzard: *throws Shadowlands box at us* There is no Titanforging. Take off your Sylvanas Loyalist clothes.
No titanforges, however something to note: if youre hunting absolute BiS in retail, most classes need specific items from specific dungeons, raids, and even PvP.
I'm probably one of the few that CAN name every item on my Monk, because its BiS, not just random gear thats slightly better than my last stuff. In defense of retail, this is one argument I hate the most because gear DOES matter in retail. I cant tell you how many times I beat the shit out of king mechagon just to get the hyperthread bracers that reduce CDs for my mage. And my damage skyrocketed 15% higher than it was from that item alone, I can even tell you the day I got that item.
Same here i'm a levelholic, Always love lvling up new Characters in Classic and Retail for all Expansions except the last 2 new once.
The craziest was MoP when I had one lvl 90 Class and race for both horde and Alliance :P
Right now I'm on a mission to get as many characters to level 35 with 250 tailoring so I can make mooncloth and stack up my main with all bottomless bags
That is a worthy quest. Good idea.
Im the same, i like to do arena on every class each expansion. I dont know why, just the learning process of a new class/spec is really fun for me.
Classic is good because you know your time isn't being wasted. Every raid is relevant throughout the game. Imagine Uldir being good because the pants for Taloc are bis despite a lack of item level
I'm on Horde side in Pyrewood and even though our population is lower than the Ally, it's amazing how massively my alt leveling experience differs from the experience of my friend who is currently leveling an ally on a large pop PvP server. He's struggling to find any dungeon groups during peak times that aren't boosts, while I've rarely had trouble finding groups even as dps. Strange how the same game can encourage such widely differing community priorities and mindsets just by flipping the world PvP switch on or off.
I popped retaliation in that goblin logging building a year ago, and somehow I remember that after seeing you do it lol.
I leveled every Horde class to level 60, and also got all professions to 300 with a specialization where available. That's all I really wanted to do in Classic so I canceled my account shortly after that and am going to the backlog of other games I'm interested that I bought on sale during the last year. I did it all (except the main) solo questing, just to show that it could be done all the way to 60 with every class (so long as you have rested xp all the way), although I did need the Silithus quests that weren't in at launch to finish most of the characters that way (though if I had known I'd needed them, I probably could have done more of the annoying quests I skipped along the way). I did not level a Paladin partly because a lot of the reason I was leveling all the classes was to have a mini-guild of my own characters helping each other out, and the Paladin wouldn't have been getting any help. They also absolutely suck, or at least did in Vanilla, at doing quests solo; the highest I got one back in Vanilla was mid 30s. I'll definitely be leveling a Blood Elf Paladin if we get to TBC on the same server. The only thing I wish I had thought of was to make my enchanter on a different account so that I could enchant my own gear on all my characters, although that obviously would add the RL cost of playing.
My main did raid MC and a little bit of BWL, but I just didn't like having to do the farming for consumables and I hated the world buff meta. While that will be better in TBC, especially if they start with the consumables overhaul instead of allowing all of them at once like they did to start, I also didn't particularly enjoy raiding anyway. Maybe it's having done some raids in MoP where there were bosses with actual mechanics, maybe it was picking a class that just cast the same spell over and over in raids, maybe it's just that I don't like having to plan time around other people's schedules; whatever it is, it's just not something I really liked doing compared to leveling. I don't even know if I'm going to level all my characters to 70 in TBC, or if I'm even going to play at all, simply because I saw TBC from the start the first time around, while I only saw the latter parts of Vanilla and so missed the chance to level while that was new content. By the end of the initial run of TBC I had most classes to 70, so there's just no compelling reason for me to do it again like there was with Vanilla.
I love how different my character feels in each spec despite being based around many of the same spells.
Now I have a really strong gear set for healing on my priest I'm working on my shadow set - it's like having a built in alt. How I play the game changes dramatically, what I can solo, what I do in teams, how I tackle a raid, all different but still my keybinds are 95% the same - the class design in classic (altthough it could do with some re-tuning) is really really fantastic.
Playing your offspec for a dungeon run or pvp for a little while is so much fun and really helps me with burnout.
Man, its crazy how gear, talents and spells can make such a difference.
Pyrewood Village is definitely the best server :p
True, class quests etc. are missed heavily in retail. But they'd have to be very difficult if they were to keep rewarding strong gear.
What keeps me coming back? I do what I want in the game, and it's really freeing. I play on an "ironman", so to speak, no trading, no ah, no groups, and I do completionist stuff - getting gear, pets, fishing items and reputations. I've found the sandbox in the theme park, so to say, and it really made me love the game again.
WillE you should become a voice actor. I love listening to your voice
I want to get back into classic, but with no goals or friends, and the open world more or less dead for doing dungeons and quests (from what I had seen the last time I attempted to play) I have all but given up on making it to 60.
I keep seeing the same.. Some say it's not because of boosting, but... it is! When I leveled my 3rd char, I basically struggeld to find any players for group or elite quests. There were lot of players in my level bracket, but lot of them were inside dungeons with 60s and not leveling in Wetlands or Arathi Highlands. It gets better at high levels though, since there is no boosting in dungeons there. If you can manage to get to around level 50, I'd recommend leveling that character. Playing around max level is still a good community experience.
New sub here. Keep it up
I got GOA on our first C'thun kill. Best feeling I've had in wow ever. Never got excited about gear in retail after Wotlk. Classic is the best!
That and getting server first =D
buying boosts might not be great, but boosting your friends is really REALLY fun and very challenging
Weirdly leveling during classic (at the start) was the most fun I had with it, as it was the most varied time to play.
One day you might be leveling through wetlands in a group of absolute legends at the elite quests in the north, the next you're in RFK with a tank who never played wow prior to the threat changes and, as a resto druid, are calling the shots on how to tank. Level 60 dungeons were fun at the start but since everything (gear, mats, dungeon routes, class specs) have been "optimized", it just feels monotonous now - nothing is a surprise any more. Raids felt the same every week, dungeons were repetitive, and PvP was either Vs premades or rush boss.
Yeah i agree i've leveled to 60 on private servers twice and now 2 times on classic aswell and yeah it just seems the end game doesnt keep me interested but man is the leveling addictive
I will say with the start of P5 I have yet to run into a premade when I pug, I bg every day and it's been a lot of fun.
@@beornyondur4594 glad to hear it! I haven't logged in for a few months so I'd guess the PvP hype has died down!
Hi WillE! This was a great video.
same dude, I just cannot get into retail seriously anymore now that classic is out
And if they release TBC without the big nerfs i am done with retail forever.
I believe during Cata all classes got a class quest at level 20 which took you to Shadowfang Keep and rewards you with a rare weapon.
My guild just killed Viscidus for the first time and the Sharpened Silithid Femur dropped and I won it on my warlock, gotta say haven't felt so happy about gear in retail in a looonngg time.
Fellow Pyrewood Village member! Just moved there myself from PvP, it's a very nice change. Hope to see you around sometime.
I'm currently leveling my first 60 and I'm struggling with the motivation to get through the grind, idk how you were able to do it multiple times.
Try to watch something on your second monitor and just farm mobs,there are guides where you just over farm specific mobs in a specific zone.You farm gold to get your epic mount and you dont have to pay attention to quests
Although I don't play classic I do owe it a lot of thanks. After playing classic for 2 months it made me try retail again and appreciate how much better the game is now, yes, even the abomination that is BfA is preferable over classic to me.
glad you have the "nekkid" set :D so its not just me
hahaha there's BILLY FISHING, HAHA oh my ! I love you again.
Why classic wow is top:
1) you can’t make wrong or bad decision. Since there are a lot of information of wow classic, and you know which class is best, which gear is strongest, how to farm gold, how to lvl up, how to kill bosses. Since you know the future, you can make decision which is best acceptable for you. It is like if you go to school again when you are adult. You know how to study and what will be useful in life. And will just enjoy your time with friends =).
2) classic is easy, it is time-consuming but it is easy for average gamer, since you have a lot of game experience. You will always feel the great, since you are always wining.
3) it is relaxing. Let’s be honest retail wow is like second job, where you do tasks without joy. Mythic raiding is like sport, you spent a lot of time to prepare yourself and then during raiding time you spent hours to do the same pulls and have negative impact on your health (siting a lot, eye problems and so on). It is not playing for fun, you can not bring your friends and in a good mood kill bosses. You must be focused, stressed, do complex mechanics, you can not let you just play, you need to give all the best in retail. Or LFR is your home. While in classic you can spam one button and feel nice. The game should be about FUN and not about ratings.
4) developing creative ways to entertain yourself. In retail wow there is dailies, weekly chests, assaults, visions, achievements, brawlers, secrets, non-stop keys. So you enter the game and system suggests you what you can do. You can switch off your brain and just manually do what wow says, and you always will have something to do. While in classic you can come to the end and have nothing to do. Then your mind and creativity comes. You can make speedruns, you can make events, make tournaments, create challenges (like iron man challenge) and so on. As sponge bob said “imagination”. And I think it is a key to play wow classic. And this is great. And that is why games like Minecraft is popular, use your imagination and creativity. Or develop it.
5) know your history or you are doomed to repeat it. Wow is great game with huge history. So it is great to experience how it started. And it will make you value some retail things, If you play both retail and classic.
We are growing, the time can not be stopped. So it very pleasant to experience good old days and move on.
ppl sayin that leveling is dead, but they never played on Gehennas server. Gehennas server has a huge world pvp and comunity that are still leveling.
WillE, idk if you know about horde united vs alliance, but you should make a video about it :)
I think for a lot of people what keeps them coming back is the relationships you form within the game. The games content is fairly trivial for the most part so its more about building comradery between people.
At 1:55 - "Grandma dwarf, doo doo doodoo doodoo!"
in TBC I grinded 6 months in Karazhan for the stranglestaff on my druid only to get a better staff from Hyjal a week or two later
I once went i a grind to get spiteblade on my rogue for 6 months also. I never got it and had to stop playing :(
I am of the opinion that the only class leveling should be the gaining of new abilities, and each of those should have its own quest or quest line, and mostly have prerequisites of other abilities. Ditto for Talents. Generally characters should stay numerically within the same range, and only gain numerical advantage through increase of attributes and skills, and the Class Skills (e.g. Fire, Ice and Arcane for Mage) should only increase through use, much like weapons skills. Gear should only provide some basic protective assistance proportional to the scale of character stats, and should not be an endless mill of attribute increases. Enchantments or specifically magical items are fine, so long as those don't contribute to more than perhaps a quarter or a fifth of the total scale, and improvements of one gear set over the last should be incremental. Like this next better set of armor provides you one more point of protection (per gear location). Mobs throughout the world should be similarly scaled, and their numerical power should have more to do with their size, skill, supernatural power than some arbitrary zone or dungeon level.
6:35 that is a big true and one of the features i really love about classic
You play on my realm I main a warrior called Kushington, love your videos man, pryewood is a dope relam been there since I started classic, also there's a addon called autocarrot that auto puts anything on that increases your riding speed once you mount up
I played classic when it was released and stopped after 2 months. I picked warlock because of you ! I stopped because classic is too good. It was too addictive it was hurting my life. My problem with wow classic is that its too good.
Played classic back in the day and fell off in BC, never made it to end game and now I'm back in classic trying to get my first ever 60 so I guess its a lot more than nostalgia for me, I'm still wrapping my head around the game for the first time.
Its quite difficult with the min/max culture going on as a "new" player. Desperate for questing friends but nobody even quests anymore...
Meanwhile me, a big brain Hunter: Full T2 and that's it.
We already lose a bag slot to a quiver, cant be arsed to carry 5 sets with me all the time.
I quit classic after getting full t1. Hunters get shafted after mc
Warlocks share the same fate, but he does keep those sets anyway, as presented in the video.
What keeps me coming back? I was lucky to join a great guild on the 3rd or 4th day of launch, and most of the people I became friends with in guild, still play too. There's is also very little guild drama, and when there is, discord is full of meme's about it after so we can all have a great laugh!
I still don’t have a 60 in Classic and I’m having a blast!
I started playing on launch cause I started WoW in Wrath, so never really got to experience Classic. I quit by October, partly because my guild fell apart..... Twice, but mostly because it's a genuine remake of a 15 year old game and it shows.
From private servers to now, I’m still not bored with this game.
The combat feel! It’s the reason I can’t play retail. Perfect example, wind fury and flurry. In classic it feels SO GOOD to crit, get a wind fury proc, and have flurry proc. In retail every ability feels the same; lacks that “gritty” feel. If they changed that I’d probably go back to retail, or at least play it once in awhile.
Classic combat has real impact in it's big hits, and you feel it with every upgrade you get making a significant increase. It's not unlikely you can sometimes delete a mob or person with a series of lucky crits and it feels so good. Retail is so restricted every fight feels stale and slow and it's just an aoe fest of spamming skills and avoiding aoe blobs.
Yeah, like ambush ability for rogues. In retail it's outlaw ability that barely does any damage lmao.
It now just came to my mind that in my personal crusade for a Classic+ version of the game (which is never going to happen, I know) I have to simply consider Classic as an option for an Endless Warcraft, in the sense that as long as servers are live and with enough players I can take my sweet time at leveling, questing, raiding, etc. Maybe one day I'll tackle Naxxramas as well...
Blows my mind how many locks get the staff from their ST quest rather than the trinket
@@Cofg12345 exactly. Literally 90% of new warlocks i see always get the staff and it just hurts my soul.
31 seconds after he released it and here I am
Twins Neck dropped twice in a row for me :P You know I got one.
Wait.. is that a garb of royal ascension that I see? POG!!
I want another classic fresh instead of TBC. Maybe an accelerated server in terms of content like naxx out after 6 or 7 months?
once, back in the day, i made a new n.elf rogue. i did my intro corner and went to the capitol to pick up some items a mailed and stash some stuff in the bank when dragonslayer popped. it tripled my dps. i got to 10 in no time.
What's the name of the adddon that displays on screen the cd time of hunter's shots?
I really liked playing classic WoW but the all min maxing experience pissed me off. Was playing a warlock and it was pretty hard to find parties for dungeon leveling. The worst part came once i hit 60. For all dungeons/ raids players prefer the same 3 classes warrior/mage/priest. If you are one of those yea sure you will have the best experience grinding for your gear but if you play something else you are going to have a real bad time finding groups. I remember searching for groups for hours to do dungeons and that was the moment for me to give up on the game.
Is Pyrewood Village my best bet at getting a relatively authentic levelling experience in terms of finding groups and a non try-hard guild? I’ve just started on Earthshaker as I heard it was okayish, but now I’m thinking Pyrewood Village might be best for this experience
Been on the fence. PLayed 2 months after launch, stopped due to stuff. Asked Blizz for a 2 day trial, I went on my 35 horde only to see the server is like 99% horde. THat's not fun. idk if I wanna come back and make a new toon on a server, or not since I don't want this to happen again
Great video! I so agree with classic being on of the best games ever made.
what is the armor set addon?
Reason #1 I am an incurable dork who refuses to stop living in the past.
Just ciruous, What is your /played on all chars combined ? :)
1:00 Me too. I'm almost there. I'm at lvl 401 of 480 (total for all chars) to get to full 60's. That my shammy will get to 60 in the comming days and then the last 4 are in the midt 40's
thank god i watched this video... i almost picked the staff instead of the abyssal trinket lmao
Couldn't agree more dude.
I personally hit 60, cleared MC once for nostalgia, quit during phase two as the community did a total 180 and become one of the most toxic communities I was a part of. The game hasn't changed, its the mentality of modern players affecting how the game is played. I'm happy for the people still playing, but everytime I look in with streamers or youtube or reddit, its just constant drama. Most MMO'S have drama, but for classic, the main component IS drama. Went back to retail/playing other shit. A similar situation happened with OSRS, with the mentality of maximum efficiency- no fun allowed- but its dropped off but some people still clutch to that.
*EDIT* I have to say, the levelling experience and the community experience prior to phase 2 was one of the most fun I have had with gaming in years.
I stopped playing for a while because the game felt stale and it wasnt fun anymore, then i realised that its because i was only raiding and have started enjoying the game again because im just taking my time to level lots of alts
Not familiar with the wardrobe addon there, IR? What does that stand for?
I listen to the wise words of a sexy ginger bear.
I hate boosting. I just wanna play like this, normal questing and doing dungeons. Should i make a PVE realm character?
13th here!!! I love classic though it is so addicting
the boys
and rhianna but shes one of the boys
Raiding CD doing them Off cooldown and atm im Farming the Winterspring mount that was one of my Goal in Classic next to having füll bis on my Main and doing every Dungeon / Raid
They always said that class quests where a waste of time because they were only doable by a fraction of the population. Imagine if someone told them that people like alts... XD
And anyway, at least a solution like Legion Artifact quests would have been a good compromise. Re-using parts of those very quests for different classes would have been better than nothing.
only 25 clears for the vectus neck?
lucky
scarab lord drama, wanna see that one. Am really curious to what length that people went to get it .
never got past level 5 on classic... should i give it another shot or has the prime time kinda come and gone?