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    National Airlines Flight 193, registration N4744, Donna, was a Boeing 727-235 en route from Miami, Florida to Pensacola on May 8, 1978. It was scheduled with stops at Melbourne, Florida; Tampa; New Orleans, Louisiana and Mobile, Alabama. The accident occurred at night in low visibility from fog. During the descent into Pensacola Regional Airport it impacted Escambia Bay, sinking in 12 feet (3.7 m) of water.
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  • @breb8418
    @breb8418 Před 5 lety +194

    My grandma was Carol Crawford. The flight attendant that was recognized for saving lives of the passengers. She passed away in 2016 and I was looking to see if I found photos of her on the internet. I remember her explaining everything to me and I remember how hard she would cry and emotional she would get every time. I have pictures of her in the plane and several other planes. It’s amazing to see this video.... finally understanding what she went through meant a lot. Thank you!

    • @cantinman6365
      @cantinman6365 Před 4 lety +39

      My mother was one of the other flight attendants, severely injured and trapped in her seat underwater. Passengers managed to free her and get her off the plane.

    • @safeinmyheart1
      @safeinmyheart1 Před 4 lety +14

      Thank you, Bre and Cantin, for sharing something so personal. Happy 4th of July. 💜

    • @treimoir8420
      @treimoir8420 Před 2 lety +8

      My grandmother was a passenger on this flight. She was injured but survived. What helped her survive was she was sitting in the very first seat and the Captain got to her first, gave her his jacket and told her no matter what, hang on to me. She was obviously never the same, and passed away in 1985. We still have the jacket.

    • @simonpazdera3710
      @simonpazdera3710 Před rokem

      Did she ever explain to you that the pilot had his teenage daughter and son in the cockpit, I do believe she did know and was told to keep her mouth shut.
      The crew of six lied to the world and especially to the fifty two passengers on board 😇😈
      It's not hard to research the truth, The black box recording has been released to the public and it's quite shocking 😇😈

    • @treimoir8420
      @treimoir8420 Před měsícem +2

      No Sir. She would probably not have remembered if they were in the cockpit. How insensitive of you to respond in such a manner to a victim’s grand-daughter. I don’t care if Micky Mouse was in the cockpit. That Pilot saved my grandmother’s life.

  • @davidbehman4836
    @davidbehman4836 Před 3 lety +20

    The tugboat captain, Glenn McDonald, that was credited with saving 55 of the 58 lives just passed away at the age of 84. He was at the right place at the right time that night. What a story.

    • @marshallbrinson2815
      @marshallbrinson2815 Před měsícem

      Actually, he was in the wrong place at the right time. Due to the fog, the barge got off course and ended up in the right place. Had they been on their correct course, the barge would have been too far away for the rescue. The Owner was a friend of my fathers and explained it to him. Without the fog, the barge would have been further away.

  • @living2ndchildhood347
    @living2ndchildhood347 Před 4 lety +5

    I was a Seaman on the USCGC RAMBLER (WLI-298). We had anchored in Santa Rosa Sound that night. The fog moved in right after sunset. After hearing the first MayDay. We had cranked up, hoisted anchor, and were running full speed (10kts) in zero visibility for the 32 miles to the crash site. It was an erie ecperience. We stayed next to the wreck for 14 days when it was picked ip and floated out on a barge.
    The young mother (Francis) who died but saved her infant son still has me wondering about his whereabouts and what he has become.
    He would be 42 or 43 years old now.

  • @bertraminc9412
    @bertraminc9412 Před 4 lety +12

    Nice. My dad had photos of the plane in the water from his boat.

  • @cyrusstow8073
    @cyrusstow8073 Před 5 lety +23

    My brothers and I ran outside after hearing that airliner to see it fly directly over our house on Garcon point!
    We knew it was way to low!
    Maybe 300 feet overhead!
    Went out by boat to see it in the bay a couple days later!
    There were armed guards on it to keep people from getting to close!
    What a sight!

    • @None-zc5vg
      @None-zc5vg Před 4 lety +2

      Wasn't the plane equipped with landing-lights ?: surely the use of these lights would have given the pilots some indication of how near the ground/water they were ( on top of the "50 feet"/"pull up" audible warnings). In the landing-phase, there have to be some visual checks from the cockpit, just to ensure that the aircraft is properly lined-up with the runway.

    • @Raison_d-etre
      @Raison_d-etre Před 4 lety

      @@None-zc5vg Visibility was poor and they were dropping too fast. They also could've just kept an eye on the altimeter.

  • @trex2092
    @trex2092 Před 3 lety +2

    A construction barge owned by Glen McDonald with McDonald Marine Construction, a "spud barge" was lost in the fog heading for a repair job on the old wooden RR bridge than spanned the bay and heard the jet pass overhead and pulled right up to the aircraft moments after it hit the water and off-loaded the survivers. This was at night and in the fog.

  • @watershed44
    @watershed44 Před 6 lety +99

    Allec Joshua Ibay
    Thanks for all your hard work with these videos. They are excellent.
    I always loved the National penchant for using girls names to name their planes.

    • @delstanley1349
      @delstanley1349 Před 6 lety +7

      +watershed44> The name of this plane we learned was Donna. NPR (National Public Radio) used to air a show called "Car Talk" hosted by Click & Clack, the Tappet brothers----Tom and Ray Magliozzi. They would occasionally remind listeners of the "Donna Syndrome." The late Tom's wife first suggested it and it went something like this. If you ever see a female driving a camaro or firebird (usually red) her name is Donna! And if her name isn't Donna it is proof that at her birth the hospital screwed up and mixed the babies.

    • @delstanley1349
      @delstanley1349 Před 6 lety +5

      +watershed 44>That "National penchant for using girl names to name their planes," probably wouldn't "fly" today I don't think. In 1979 just one year before National was acquired by Pan Am the U.S. started using male names instead of the previous female only names for hurricanes; so the political trend had already started by the time they ceased as National.

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 Před 6 lety +9

      Del Stanley
      It's absolutely ridiculous as well. Like anyone is ever going to change that age old saying "There she blows!" haha....I always thought that using male names for hurricanes was just idiotic. The truth is that the reason for female names was partly seafaring and also hurricanes have a hole in the middle. heheee.

    • @delstanley1349
      @delstanley1349 Před 6 lety +17

      +watershed44> The REAL reason hurricanes were named after females I learned a long time ago (60s) was on a bubble gum wrapper riddle. The question: "Why do hurricanes have female names?" Answer: "Have you ever heard of a himmicane?" Now you know the facts!

  • @sarahalbers5555
    @sarahalbers5555 Před 3 lety +4

    Gosh, I remember this so well I grew up in Miami and had neighbors who were pilots for National and Eastern. This is a great explanation of the incident. Great job as usual.

  • @stevewilliams3850
    @stevewilliams3850 Před 4 lety +9

    I remember this. I was in the Navy. I was stationed at N.A.S. Memphis, in Millington, Tennessee. I was thinking this happened later in the year. I got transferred to N.A.S. Pensacola in September, 1978; and spent the rest of my short Navy career there.

  • @antman5474
    @antman5474 Před 6 lety +164

    they didn't even attempt a perfect ditching yet pulled it off spectacularly.

    •  Před 5 lety +37

      +I Em Hoo Iz I hope you eventually gain some form of intelligence.

    • @daveofarrell2417
      @daveofarrell2417 Před 5 lety +1

      Ant Laud nnn

    • @martytdd1606
      @martytdd1606 Před 5 lety +17

      Seemed that way looking at the condition of the aircraft. It was in one piece, didn't look much different to Sully's plane damage wise.

    • @austindarrenor
      @austindarrenor Před 5 lety +20

      If the plane had been even in a slight turn it would have cartwheeled and broken up. Except for their soaked luggage everyone on that flight was very lucky but for the three people that couldn't swim.

    • @novemberdelta1282
      @novemberdelta1282 Před 5 lety +4

      @I Em Hoo I Iz OKAY SHUT UP!

  • @1310magoo
    @1310magoo Před 5 lety +10

    I was in Navy Flight Training at Whiting Field in Milton, FL when this accident happened. I drove daily over the I-10 bridge across Escambia Bay for weeks viewing the nose and tail of the 727 peeking out of the murky waters. What you left out is the fact the aircrew testified they turned off the ground-proximity horn in the cockpit because it made it difficult to hear each other. The human error was due to the aircrew, NOT the ground controller.
    A former F-14A driver.

    • @robvoyles
      @robvoyles Před 4 lety +2

      The NTSB report clearly mentions the controller's failures in it's report.

  • @_01waldorandooskichambers01_

    I dig that National Airlines tailfin logo

    • @sarahalbers5555
      @sarahalbers5555 Před 3 lety +1

      Love the SunKing livery! Just not the " fly me I'm Donna" crap ad campaign.

    • @scottl.1568
      @scottl.1568 Před 3 lety +1

      Folks had style back then

    • @sam_the_aviator
      @sam_the_aviator Před 3 lety

      You what that national airlines tailfin logo? Srry can't understand what ur sayin

    • @_01waldorandooskichambers01_
      @_01waldorandooskichambers01_ Před 3 lety +1

      I.....LIKE.....THAT.....NATIONAL.....AIRLINES.....TAILFIN.....Get me now?

    • @sam_the_aviator
      @sam_the_aviator Před 3 lety

      @@_01waldorandooskichambers01_ oh kk

  • @CoolAce1
    @CoolAce1 Před 3 lety +1

    National Airlines was probably the safest airline back then. Even this crash could have been far worse. It's amazing they were able to control it enough in the last minute to avoid a big disaster. What a nice looking airplane.

  • @johnpollard4158
    @johnpollard4158 Před 3 lety +2

    I flew on that plane several years earlier from Miami to New Orleans. Landed in a horrible storm and almost overran the runway.

  • @wotan10950
    @wotan10950 Před 6 lety +57

    I remember this accident so well because the day earlier, I told my college buddy that National Airlines had some strange accidents (like the crew-induced DC-10 engine failure over the southwest desert). The next day, the newspaper showed the National 727 in the water.

    • @michaelchamberlain1441
      @michaelchamberlain1441 Před 4 lety

      I believe the DC-10 engine failure talking about was United Airlines Dave that jet crash at the Sioux city Airport

    • @WMAcadet
      @WMAcadet Před 4 lety

      @@michaelchamberlain1441 No, he's referring to the National DC-10 that had the #3 engine overspeed and come apart with part of the engine compressor blades breaking a window and the passenger sitting next to it was sucked out and his body was never found because he went through the #2 engine. The NTSB could not determine how the engine was capable of overspeeding at 39,000 feet with the testing that was done afterward.

    • @michaelchamberlain1441
      @michaelchamberlain1441 Před 4 lety

      @@WMAcadet OMG THO 😫 I'm done flying I'm serious.. Or I will always sit on the isle.

    • @vixen4327
      @vixen4327 Před 4 lety

      @@WMAcadet holy crap!!!!!!

  • @zoso73
    @zoso73 Před 5 lety +5

    My dad worked at National until the PAA acquisition. Great airline. He said it was the best company he ever worked for.

    • @255-southcarolina8
      @255-southcarolina8 Před 4 lety +1

      My dad worked for National to CHS My dad got me a job Unloading the airplanes For ARA Ground services For Pan Am

  • @RamadiTaxiDriver60M
    @RamadiTaxiDriver60M Před 2 lety +1

    I was a kid riding across the bridge with my dad when that happened. We were stuck there for the longest time with no idea what had happened. They moved the aircraft to a hangar on the navy base later.

  • @abedekok322
    @abedekok322 Před 6 lety +6

    PNS is my local airport, never knew any aircraft crashed there but most approaches are over Escambia Bay and I can see why that would present a challenge or danger in situations like this.

  • @GEM850
    @GEM850 Před 3 lety +2

    I live in Pensacola and when the fog rolls in, it is no joke. It becomes zero visibility with zero ceiling. This was a combination of errors that led to this.

  • @patriciamariemitchel
    @patriciamariemitchel Před 5 lety +111

    The pilots were blamed, but could it be that the reason these other planes were going around was because the controller was giving out wrong information in the first place?

    • @MrEastern021
      @MrEastern021 Před 4 lety +14

      @Disney Rants the pilot is the 'ultimate' controller of his aircraft. With over 14,000 hrs of flight time He should have known better than to continue the approach.

    • @dashcam26
      @dashcam26 Před 4 lety +9

      Yes - I bet that was why flight 177 did a go-round.

    • @shojinryori
      @shojinryori Před 4 lety +8

      acbulgin2 that’s a very thorough explanation, thank you.

    • @stuartlee6622
      @stuartlee6622 Před 4 lety +8

      Hillary Clinton, cackling around on her broomstick, confused the controller.

    • @hehhehhuhhuh7014
      @hehhehhuhhuh7014 Před 4 lety +16

      @@stuartlee6622 No, it was your beloved fuehrer Donald Dickless. He confused the controller by telling him/her that the airport has been well protected by our soldiers since the Revolutionary war.

  • @davidtheswedishtechguy
    @davidtheswedishtechguy Před 3 lety +3

    Crazy that the plane took it so good 😮 water tends to rip planes apart like ripping BBQ folio 😬

  • @boudreux9318
    @boudreux9318 Před 4 lety +3

    To those blaming the controller, please take a minute to understand a "Surveillance Approach". ( Or ASR approach in ATC speak). This is a "non-precision approach" not much different than a GPS approach is made today. Back when this crash occurred, ASR approaches were pretty standard in the military, and usually available to civilian airports as well. Today , they are rarely used. Anyway,.. the air traffic controller issues constant course guidance (left or right of the center-line of the runway. They guide them to the runway. However, the descent of the aircraft is the completely the responsibility of the pilot. The controller will issue a "minimum descent altitude" for the crew to descend to, to remain safely above any obstacles, but as low as possible in an attempt to find the runway. The controller will tell the flight crew what the altitude is, and, at a specific point on the the approach, tell them to descend to it. If the pilots descend below that altitude, it is not the fault of the air traffic controller. Any pilot will tell you,.. be it an ASR, a GPS or an ILS approach,.. you DO NOT descend below that minimum altitude UNLESS you have the runway in sight.

  • @lwing77
    @lwing77 Před 6 lety +3

    Ok Allec I have watched for a week just about all your videos. You have spiked my interest in aviation , you have opened my eyes from assuming what I usually assume when I hear of a plane crash. I I’ll tell you this now I understand what NTSB actually does and the FAA now I know why they work so heard to recover every detail they can in these crashes and the flight recorder boxes . These planes are amazing and pilots and crew have to be on top of their game and so does Maintnance and inspection. It’s a process that saves lives amazing job on all your editing and your real life views

  • @jimrossi7708
    @jimrossi7708 Před 6 lety +5

    Among your best work to date, keep it up because I enjoy 😉 these videos, I learn a lot of useful information

  • @AudioRevive
    @AudioRevive Před rokem

    I live about a mile from Pensacola Airport. I see the planes landing & taking off all the time. This was very interesting. Thanks!

  • @moonlight_catto
    @moonlight_catto Před 6 lety +8

    Keep up the good work allec!

  • @vetere0599
    @vetere0599 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank You Allec, another great video. You never disappoint. From KBOS

  • @gregorycarter3194
    @gregorycarter3194 Před 6 lety +4

    Nice job as always, keep up the good work.

  • @nissantsuru9108
    @nissantsuru9108 Před 6 lety +122

    Rip to those 3 passengers

    • @southrules
      @southrules Před 5 lety +2

      Anthoni Valseca
      I made it but now have a new identity

    • @julosx
      @julosx Před 4 lety +5

      @John Scott Clopton That's pretty unusual. Most of the time when people drown in an aircraft that made a "good" landing on water is because they inflate their jacket before exiting the sinking plane.

    • @cremebrulee4759
      @cremebrulee4759 Před 3 lety

      @@southrules so disrespectful

    • @cremebrulee4759
      @cremebrulee4759 Před 3 lety

      @@julosx you are right. They inflate their life jacket, and then can't get through the exit. It is so sad that no one could convince them to get off the plane. I assumed when I read the description that they had drowned because they fell off the wing or didn't have their life jacket on properly.

    • @djohnson2571
      @djohnson2571 Před 3 lety

      @TheLogicJunkie RIP

  • @flyinghow
    @flyinghow Před 6 lety +12

    I remember this accident well as I was a junior in high school and living in Pensacola. Two weeks later I was on the same flight returning from New Orleans.

  • @nenblom
    @nenblom Před 6 lety +7

    You do an amazing job! Keep it up!

  • @dgriffin6074
    @dgriffin6074 Před 5 lety +13

    It's PensAcola, not Pensecola. What saved the passengers' lives was the presence of a quick thinking barge captain who maneuvered close enough to rescue passengers.

  • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043

    Yikes! RIP the three who drowned trying to get to safety. But it really was a spectacular landing with unintended input from the crew.

  • @novola1972
    @novola1972 Před 6 lety +6

    You are doing a great job man.

  • @jimbeck3230
    @jimbeck3230 Před 4 lety +5

    Pilots are supposed to check notams for the destination airport as well as alternate airports. They obviously hadn’t because they weren’t aware the ILS was OOS.
    They failed to recognize the aircraft had reached the MDA until it was 430 feet below it. Being as the aircraft ahead executed a missed approach they should have been extra cautious.
    They didn’t seem to have a backup navigational aid to confirm what the controller was telling them was valid.
    It is only dumb luck that only three were killed in this accident.

  • @535igo6
    @535igo6 Před 6 lety +2

    Yes! Thanks Allec!

  • @korsondo
    @korsondo Před 5 lety +2

    My dad and I were fishing when this happened. We were about 5 miles away when the plane went down.

    • @ralphcharette7571
      @ralphcharette7571 Před 4 lety

      Why didn't you go and save those drowned people, ass-hole

  • @thomasfritz6425
    @thomasfritz6425 Před 5 lety +4

    Sorry Alec forgot to thank you for your great work.

  • @fleetwin1
    @fleetwin1 Před 4 lety +2

    I flew National quite a bit back in the day and remember this crash like it was yesterday

  • @FloozieOne
    @FloozieOne Před 6 lety +14

    As a 65 y/o disabled person I watch a lot of videos and am impressed with yours. I would like to send you a donation but I can't afford to commit to a monthly plan. I have searched your site but don't see anywhere to give a one-time donation. Do you have this option?

  • @reenasolanki2004
    @reenasolanki2004 Před 4 lety +1

    👍For the video... Now when I fly in the plane... Know already whats going on in cockpit 😁Thanks for your videos👏👏👏RIP for the 3 precious soul till the Day of Resurrection ❤

  • @oakleyjacket7922
    @oakleyjacket7922 Před 6 lety +4

    Great as always!

  • @chrisk8187
    @chrisk8187 Před 4 lety +4

    The lack of maturity level of a lot of these comments is astounding.........
    Like little children........
    and THAT'S really disappointing and sad.......

  • @echaurijpl
    @echaurijpl Před 5 lety +1

    Amazing video

  • @Gusrikh1
    @Gusrikh1 Před 6 lety +3

    Great video clip as always..

  • @mrpaulgrimm6129
    @mrpaulgrimm6129 Před 4 lety +4

    What saved this plane was no engines on the wings to catch water and break it up

    • @jaik195701
      @jaik195701 Před 4 lety +1

      Wing mounted engines (like all engines) are made with special pins that break, allowing engine separation, before causing structural damage

  • @cherripaterson6066
    @cherripaterson6066 Před 4 lety +2

    its amazing people survuved this crash in the water sad about the ones that drowned.

  • @deltaflyer1441
    @deltaflyer1441 Před 4 lety +3

    I live In Pensacola and they have it on the map of the airport for pilots that Runway 26 does have an illusion of it being closer than it actually is

  • @johnharris7353
    @johnharris7353 Před 6 lety +37

    Look how that Boeing 727 held together! Great aircraft. If it ain't Boeing I ain't going!

    • @TheOmega13a
      @TheOmega13a Před 6 lety +8

      It helped that the pilots were preparing for landing when they hit the water.

    • @davidhoffman1278
      @davidhoffman1278 Před 6 lety +4

      john harris ,
      A DC-9 would probably have had similar limited damage.

    • @AllecJoshuaIbay
      @AllecJoshuaIbay  Před 6 lety +11

      Considering the aircraft's engines were located at a higher location prevented the engines from scooping up water

    • @pingpongpung
      @pingpongpung Před 5 lety +5

      Oh dear, another Boeing fanboy. Lame.

    • @hafidzandi2920
      @hafidzandi2920 Před 5 lety +12

      pingpongpung is it wrong to be a boeing fanboy? I mean he didnt insult airbus or anything, he only said it was a great aircraft.

  • @nikolitsahasoura1265
    @nikolitsahasoura1265 Před 5 lety +1

    Great job

  • @Gomoboo
    @Gomoboo Před 3 lety +1

    National Airlines Advertising- "Is this anyway to run an airline? You BET it is!" By a very young, slim, beautiful and smiling Stewardess. Back in the days...(I have been flying since I was about 5 years-old in late 1953 so yes, many changes)

  • @living2ndchildhood347
    @living2ndchildhood347 Před 6 lety +1

    I worked this crash onboard the USCGC RAMBLER (WLI-298), for 2 weeks.

  • @destry5250
    @destry5250 Před 6 lety +49

    "Did you get your thing . . . . ?"

  • @chrisolson2846
    @chrisolson2846 Před 6 lety +88

    Why did the ATC not bear any responsibility by providing incorrect information? This would have been prevented then.

    • @carolmorris404
      @carolmorris404 Před 6 lety +8

      Cali Nuts Thank you for posting this question. The second the video went blank and the sound of the crash, my immediate thought was ATC was largely responsible???

    • @JordanWilliams-ix2td
      @JordanWilliams-ix2td Před 6 lety +4

      Cali Nuts that's exactly what I thought too...like ummmmm so y'all just Gunna act like ATC had nothingto do with the crash.? Umm ok

    • @MrBwincali420
      @MrBwincali420 Před 6 lety +3

      not sure where you guys think they didn't.. they were blamed also

    • @chrisolson2846
      @chrisolson2846 Před 6 lety +14

      "The pilots were blamed for not conducting a missed approach when it was apparent the approach was no longer stable". No mention of the ATC getting in trouble bro.

    • @MrBwincali420
      @MrBwincali420 Před 6 lety +6

      the NTSB report clearly mentions the controller's failures in it's report.. that is partial blame BRO!!!!!

  • @spensert4933
    @spensert4933 Před 6 lety +5

    These vids are second to none.

  • @six-pack1332
    @six-pack1332 Před 5 lety +2

    I'm pretty sure I flew on this plane in 1974 or '75. I flew National Airlines quite a few times in early and mid seventies.

  • @novola1972
    @novola1972 Před 6 lety +2

    Allec thanks a lot.

  • @theoburgess6166
    @theoburgess6166 Před 6 lety +3

    fantastic video

  • @powellbenedict3522
    @powellbenedict3522 Před 6 lety +3

    Great stuff. Love these videos. I'm always a tiny little bit concerned that I am missing new ones.

    • @AllecJoshuaIbay
      @AllecJoshuaIbay  Před 6 lety +2

      Powell Benedict be sure to hit the notification bell to ensure no Vids are being missed :)

  • @NeverforgetElvis
    @NeverforgetElvis Před 4 lety +2

    While radar control got some blame, it is ultimately the pilots responsibility to monitor the altitude. If they hadn't decended through 450 feet they would have either called missed or flew along for a bit at MDA to see if they could detect approach lights.

  • @thefurbeastunderyourbed5012

    From Miami to Pensacola via New Orleans and Mobile? :D Should have brought a map for sure there.

  • @jayrobinson525
    @jayrobinson525 Před 4 lety +2

    This suprises me because I live an hour away from Pensacola. But i don't live in Florida im from Alabama. Just across the state line

  • @MrCrystalcranium
    @MrCrystalcranium Před 4 lety +4

    I guess "Did you get your thing" is code for TOGA!!!

  • @keenxiandreefuego3731
    @keenxiandreefuego3731 Před 2 lety

    I love the song of
    Lonely - Mylatestfantasy.

  • @eeeecccc
    @eeeecccc Před 5 lety +3

    Impressive water landing all things considered

  • @eliteschaf5697
    @eliteschaf5697 Před 3 lety

    GO-AROUND!!! What a strange cockpit crew + controller. All are to be blamed for that crash + the loss of life.

  • @darrenmartin9402
    @darrenmartin9402 Před 5 lety +4

    I lived in Pensacola when this happened I was 8 and remember my dad took me out in our boat to see it.

  • @boblawblaw6875
    @boblawblaw6875 Před 3 lety +1

    You’d think that with all the flying experience, they would have conducted a miss approach.

  • @markmonse5285
    @markmonse5285 Před 3 lety

    I can recall seeing a copy of a newspaper photo of this bird sitting in the bay, posted on the pilot's bulletin board. Some joker had penned in "AHOOGA! DIVE! DIVE!" on it..

  • @davidsilverio5837
    @davidsilverio5837 Před 6 lety +2

    Truly amazing spectacular magnificent video!

  • @bradmccullough8240
    @bradmccullough8240 Před rokem

    As soon as I saw the word deadly in the title I knew it would not end well

  • @Smotive1
    @Smotive1 Před 6 lety +4

    R. I. P.

  • @islanders1329fan
    @islanders1329fan Před 5 lety +2

    Those poor 3 passengers 😢😢😥😥

  • @255-southcarolina8
    @255-southcarolina8 Před 4 lety +2

    My dad worked for this airline national for a long time Then panam took Them over I remember this crash I was very young

  • @terrelmchenry9524
    @terrelmchenry9524 Před 4 lety +4

    I HAD FLOWN ON DONNA A NUMBER OF YEAR BEFORE THE CRASH. I'M ALMOST 60.

  • @Lightblue2222
    @Lightblue2222 Před 5 lety +2

    Pretty good ocean landing since they were able to recover the plane.

  • @TJRatfink
    @TJRatfink Před 5 lety +1

    It's PensAcola! Enjoy the videos btw.

  • @aircraftexpert3605
    @aircraftexpert3605 Před 6 lety +1

    Nice Video Allec

  • @tdickensheets
    @tdickensheets Před 4 lety +1

    Contributing to the crash was poor preparation on the part of the flight crew. While the captain and first officer were aware that runway 16 was closed, they had both forgotten it. A visual approach slope indicator (VASI) light system serving runway 25 was available and operational, but while the information was available to the flight crew, the flight crew was unaware of this alternate approach aid.[2]
    An additional contributing factor to the crash was an error on the part of the radar controller. Procedure for runway 25 was to direct flights to intercept the final approach at 8 nmi, with the approach gate at 6 nmi. The controller misjudged the aircraft's distance and turned it to final inside the recommended distance, resulting in the aircraft being on final approach vector at about 4.5 nmi, close to half the distance of a normal approach. The NTSB report concludes the controller "created a situation that would make it impossible for the captain to configure his aircraft in the manner specified in the flight manual".[2]
    A reluctance to declare a missed approach pervaded the descent. Radar controller, captain, first officer and flight engineer all had indications of an out of the ordinary approach, producing a rushed and busy environment. An example of this that the captain failed to lower the landing gear immediately after lowering the flaps to 25 degrees, because he "wanted to avoid placing a simultaneous demand on the hydraulic system while the flaps were in transit". Similarly, the first officer never made the required 1,000-ft callout, because he never got to 1,000 ft mentally, because of his "inner time clock" which was based on a normal descent rate. In addition, each person chose not to ask for or offer additional assistance or warnings, including recommended announcements and acknowledgments. The lack of crew communication and a "no problem here" attitude resulted in false awareness of altitude and descent rate on the part of all involved.[2] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Airlines_Flight_193

  • @leesantos9711
    @leesantos9711 Před 4 lety +4

    I miss the 727 it was a workhorse !

    • @howward4071
      @howward4071 Před 4 lety

      Me too. It was the first plane I ever flew on.

  • @Springbok295
    @Springbok295 Před 6 lety +3

    I remember this being front page news in our local newspaper the Tallahassee Democrat the day after. NA used to serve my old hometown of Tallahassee.

    • @julosx
      @julosx Před 4 lety

      Maybe National should have named the aircraft serving there "Tallahassee Lassie".

    • @bryanbaker274
      @bryanbaker274 Před 4 lety

      I went to school in T- town.
      FSU class of '08

  • @catherinesophiereese672
    @catherinesophiereese672 Před 6 lety +2

    Great as usual but confusing as regards flight numbers; I think you should keep mentioning the airline together with the flight number. Thanks!

  • @richardgonzales9564
    @richardgonzales9564 Před 3 lety +1

    Safety first

  • @aerospacerules1883
    @aerospacerules1883 Před 6 lety +2

    According to me, they should land only when they see any visual signs of the runway, such as the runway beacons

  • @princessbuttercup8954
    @princessbuttercup8954 Před 5 lety +1

    I live near this place and never knew of this.

  • @pwrfl2357
    @pwrfl2357 Před 7 dny

    Please change your misspelling of PENSACOLA. Great video!!

  • @richardg1917
    @richardg1917 Před 5 lety +3

    Why would the pilots not see tha altimiter at 450 since they just said moments before 450 was illegal ?

  • @tomking6304
    @tomking6304 Před 6 lety +2

    Nice video

  • @Bobrogers99
    @Bobrogers99 Před 5 lety +1

    I know nothing about flying a plane, but after watching many videos of crashes, it seems that many times there is a failure to monitor altitude and speed when landing. The checklists apparently occupy both pilots, so perhaps a third person needs to be in the cockpit doing the monitoring if ATC radar doesn't have that capability. The pilots have to do a lot of multitasking in those vital minutes. I read somewhere a quote that said that flying a plane is 95% boredom and 5% sheer terror.

    • @Sphere723
      @Sphere723 Před 4 lety

      When the pilots requested the "ILS" runway that's a radio beam that guides the airplane down a "glideslope" so as to make a landing in bad conditions relatively easy. In this case the pilots had to go old school and descend without the aid of a radio glide slope. Obviously they fucked it up, but you with a working glide slope such an accident is basically unheard of. There was one where the pilots where told the glideslope wasn't working, but somehow they still picked up a false signal, trusted it, and followed it right into the ground.

  • @vikramgupta2326
    @vikramgupta2326 Před 5 lety +3

    I found this one a bit difficult to follow. So what were the corrective actions from this event? Are controllers trained differently? Different procedures? Or was it plain human error? In these videos it would be nice to find what happened to the culpable parties.

  • @harrisonofcolorado8886
    @harrisonofcolorado8886 Před 6 lety +2

    Well made.

  • @md65000
    @md65000 Před 3 lety +1

    Engine noise-->crash-->piano music. I'm starting to see a pattern here :D

  • @rafanifischer3152
    @rafanifischer3152 Před 4 lety +3

    This year I flew from Miami to Pensacola direct. I don't think I would take an otherwise short flight with 3 stopovers.

  • @damientan3547
    @damientan3547 Před 6 lety +3

    Nice vid

  • @bambertthe803
    @bambertthe803 Před 3 lety

    Damage: Substantial
    Airframe: Wipeout

  • @zoso73
    @zoso73 Před 4 lety +2

    The audio at the start of the video sounds like a 727.

  • @niceguy60
    @niceguy60 Před 4 lety +4

    Flying at 50 feet the pilot looks out the window and says the people on the ground look like ants
    Copilot screams back those are ants.

  • @michaelreynolds3592
    @michaelreynolds3592 Před 6 lety +2

    Is this what happens when someone fails basic math? Man... that one had to be confusing to make, sir Josh... but awesome as always.

  • @BreezerBeej
    @BreezerBeej Před 5 lety +11

    Awesome video, as usual, but it’s spelled Pensacola. 😀

    • @bryanbaker274
      @bryanbaker274 Před 4 lety

      Clearly he's not from Florida.
      My family is from the Panama City Beach area and my aunts attended UWF University of West Florida in Pensacola. I went to Florida State University in Tallahassee and lived on Pensacola St. Small world.

    • @jkdm7653
      @jkdm7653 Před 4 lety +1

      Right! Also, just because this is in Florida, it's not a "Twin Beach", it's a Twin Beech.

    • @BreezerBeej
      @BreezerBeej Před 4 lety

      Bryan Baker That’s cool. I went to UWF and used to go to PCB until it became a concrete canyon next to the beach.

  • @lonemaus562
    @lonemaus562 Před rokem

    Flying a plane a night really seems like you are flying a plane in a void of blackness.. I would be scared to fly at night