Degrassi Deep Dives: The Next Generation (Part 3)

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  • čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
  • In season four of Degrassi: The Next Generation, we talk about court cases, gun violence, mental health, and those jelly bracelets that caused a moral panic in the early 2000's! This season packed a lot of drama in one place!
    Degrassi is a teen drama from Canada that has touched the lives of multiple generations. For more information on the series and the deep dives, please check out the rest of the videos on this channel for more!
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    CHAPTERS:
    Intro/Content Warnings/Previous On: 0:00:00
    Skip Intro: 0:00:58
    Paige: 0:06:37
    Manny, Spinner, and Paige (Part 1): 0:14:20
    Rick: 0:19:09
    Sean: 0:45:47
    Emma: 0:52:02
    Craig: 1:00:42
    Non-Intermission: 1:15:11
    JT, Liberty, and Rasishes: 1:15:31
    Jimmy: 1:19:58
    Manny, Paige, and Spinner (Part 2): 1:24:22
    Kevin Smith & Jay and Silent Bob Go Canadian, Eh: 1:33:48
    Lightning Round: 1:44:22
    Conclusion: 1:47:48
    Patreon Thanks: 1:50: 56
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    Sources:
    Time Stands Still Interviews: conventionalrelations.net/201...
    Jelly Sex Bracelet Email Forwards from Snopes: www.snopes.com/fact-check/sex...
    The Ringer Moral Panics Article: www.theringer.com/features/20...
    Jimmy Almost Quit Degrassi by Nylon: www.nylon.com/entertainment/d...
    Kevin Smith Changed Degrassi History by EW: ew.com/tv/2019/10/12/kevin-sm...
    Jake Epstein Interview by EW: ew.com/article/2007/01/11/cat...
    Donate or volunteer to help end gun violence: www.everytown.org
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  • @totalrevengeance3904
    @totalrevengeance3904 Před rokem +204

    I think one thing that annoys me about the rick story is the teachers reaction to it all. They start talking about how they didn’t notice any “warning signs” aside from the fact he was bullied - but the entire reason he was bullied was BECAUSE of the warning signs. I just find it ridiculous that Rick assaults his girlfriend & puts her in a coma, but is allowed to return to school. The students hound the teachers about how they don’t want a dangerous abuser in their school and the staff take no notice, and then are surprised when the man who has already assaulted one classmate… shoots another? The warning signs were there from the beginning, the bullying was done because the teachers were already ignoring it

    • @withpeacelove366
      @withpeacelove366 Před rokem +14

      yeah that's really weird that he was let back into school. Normally when someone does something like that, even if charges weren't pressed, the perpetrator would be expelled and sent to juvie. Idk maybe Canada doesn't have juvie or something, but in the US I don't think Rick would have been let back into school.

    • @mudkipjuice
      @mudkipjuice Před 11 měsíci +10

      @@withpeacelove366 This storyline is true to my experience in school in the US. It took my primary bully planting a firestarter in the school with a bomb threat for her to be sent to juvie. She was suspended several times for physically assaulting me and others but the school did not care to do anything beyond that until police had to be involved with the school directly. (schools also didnt do anything about my abusive partner at the time either)

    • @withpeacelove366
      @withpeacelove366 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@mudkipjuice That's crazy. Im sorry you went through that :( hope youre okay now

    • @jaleelfelder5031
      @jaleelfelder5031 Před 11 měsíci +5

      That makes a lot of sense the students wouldn't have had to bully him if they thought the teachers and staff was doing they jobs and they figured they wasn't due to fact that they let him return to Degrassi so I guess the students thought they had to handle it they self but I blame punk ass Mr radictch over anybody he poorly handled the rick situation just like he did back in the day on Degrassi high in the Claude suicide situation 💪

    • @RoseRose-hp4rq
      @RoseRose-hp4rq Před 8 měsíci +2

      As a high school teacher in Canada, I can tell you that it takes a hell of a lot for a student to get expelled. If ricks parents at all could convince that it was an accident he has a right to attend school.

  • @NoviLeigh
    @NoviLeigh Před rokem +289

    I think Alex’s role in the prank was glossed over because Spinner wasn’t confessing because of the prank - his guilt was focused on what he and Jay did in that bathroom, which Alex wasn’t involved in.

    • @kwynn1016
      @kwynn1016 Před rokem +52

      My conclusion as to why Alex's role is forgotten is that she had no part in putting the blame on Jimmy and had no idea (at the moment) that Jay and Spinner had done in bathroom.
      I also don't *100%* believe that Spinner and to an extent Jay are at fault either and that Rick is the only one at fault. Neither Spinner nor Jay knew of the gun that Rick was hiding. But they were the final straw per say
      I've always found this storyline very interesting because the different ways people view it

    • @RyanStorey1231
      @RyanStorey1231 Před rokem +32

      @@kwynn1016 Also, think of this: If Spinner, Jay, and Jimmy hadn't been the ones to send Rick over the edge, somebody else would have eventually.
      It could have easily been Emma turning him down under a different circumstance.
      Rick was a ticking time bomb, and the warning signs were everywhere.
      The fact is, none of this would have happened if Rick hadn't been allowed to return to Degrassi.

    • @kwynn1016
      @kwynn1016 Před rokem +17

      @@RyanStorey1231 exactly he was a ticking time bomb waiting for that final tick to happen til he blew. Had Paige not said what she said it could have been her who got shot. But without even knowing it she was able to defuse the situation. Rick shouldn't have been allowed back at Degrassi at all. And when he returned after the pranking he should have been escorted home or had his parents come to get him. He clearly was not okay.

    • @topkek4223
      @topkek4223 Před rokem +6

      @@RyanStorey1231 exactly he was just an evil person he should’ve been in jail from the moment he abused Terry and put her in a coma.

    • @charity9660
      @charity9660 Před rokem +6

      @@RyanStorey1231 but they couldn’t tell him not to come back because he hurt Terri off of school property and his parents were shite.

  • @DisabledDragon
    @DisabledDragon Před rokem +202

    I really love Joey's line, "what is happening to my son?" First, because Joey calls Craig his "son," and not his step-son. Not that there is anything wrong with being a step-parent, but it just affirms that Joey's motivation for caring for Craig isn't just that Craig is his late wife's son and his daughter's step-brother.
    I also think the exact question he asks is important--"what is happening to my son," not "what is wrong with my son." The latter *could* mean exactly the same thing; "wrong with" is also a term that could be used to refer to someone being sick. But "happening to" avoids negative connotations "wrong with" could have towards Craig himself (which I suspect Craig would immediately assume were intended if he were to hear Joey say that.) Joey knows his kid well enough to know that this is not how he acts, and his response is very clearly concern rather than blame or anger at Craig.

    • @Rookiewompus
      @Rookiewompus  Před rokem +43

      Yes, exactly this! The "my son" always hits me in the gut. And the way he uses "happening to" also emphasizes that Joey doesn't UNDERSTAND - he feels that the problem lies with him and his lack of knowledge, not with Craig. It's such a powerful line, and Pat delivers it with such conviction.

    • @dollinterrupted
      @dollinterrupted Před rokem +3

      awe i love this take

    • @kadeen876
      @kadeen876 Před rokem +4

      Love this. My only correction is that Angie and Craig were half siblings.. not step

  • @jjthepikazard212
    @jjthepikazard212 Před rokem +210

    "when in doubt kiss craig" is one of the best quotes in the whole series

  • @mememachine3412
    @mememachine3412 Před rokem +96

    Everyone frames Jay & Friends' "bullying" as them taking advantage of a situation to bully a nerd, but those kids are the ones more likely to have witnessed or experienced DV or child abuse, so IPV isn't just some hypothetical to them, and they know that if you let an abuser back into the same situation, they're bound to fall into old habits. Additionally, Rick demonstrates that he still objectifies women and sees them as inferior, so he really hasn't changed, and he should absolutely have been ostracized. He should not have been able to come back to Degrassi, for his sake and everyone else's.

  • @teamweavertv
    @teamweavertv Před rokem +90

    I’ve always seen Craig’s violent outbursts in these episodes as a result of the abuse Craig endured from his dad that were elevated by his BPD.

    • @PGOuma
      @PGOuma Před rokem +14

      Just to clarify, BPD is borderline personality disorder

    • @lindawilliams1933
      @lindawilliams1933 Před rokem +2

      Although Ashley handled it, okay. I don't know. Manny could gave handle Craig's episodes.

    • @jonathanmiller9235
      @jonathanmiller9235 Před rokem +1

      ​@@PGOuma You know, you didn't need to correct him, you both know what he meant. And in case you haven't already noticed, Craig had Bipolar Disorder.

    • @steph5868
      @steph5868 Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@jonathanmiller9235it’s moreso to prevent spread of misinformation. just because we know doesn’t mean others do.

  • @cottoncandyponies
    @cottoncandyponies Před rokem +414

    I think the reason on why we don’t get reason for the shooting is so people don’t romanticize or give sympathy to Rick to justify his actions.

    • @cottoncandyponies
      @cottoncandyponies Před rokem +71

      Also, (spoilers for Season 5) I don’t like how Jimmy just forgave Spinner in the finale like that.
      The only reason he forgave him is because Jimmy would be all alone next year because the senior class is going to college.
      But also, the man’s got you shot also (spoilers for later seasons) the shooting does not get brought up past Season 7 just because your friends are moving on to better things doesn’t mean you can forgive someone for making you paralyzed.
      When Spinner is talking to Holly J about what’s the worse thing he’s ever done he says “one time I didn’t invite Jimmy to my birthday party he didn’t speak to me for a whole year” I mean you also got him shot.
      It could be a character development thing or something I don’t know.

    • @frowup
      @frowup Před rokem +55

      ....except you DO get reasons why. It's literally the entire plot of the 2 parter.

    • @kells4315
      @kells4315 Před rokem +33

      @@cottoncandyponies To be fair I think it's good they didn't blame Spinner. Spinner bullied a kid, THAT was awful, but he did not cause a school shooting, the only person who did that was Rick (and people who allowed Rick to have access to guns)

    • @hesayshesayhowboutmesay
      @hesayshesayhowboutmesay Před rokem +22

      @@kells4315 Rick would have never had a reason to specifically shoot Jimmy if not for Spinner going along with Jay. True, he didn’t know Rick had a gun, but he did give Rick a reason to target Jimmy so he deserves partial responsibility.

    • @T0xXx1k
      @T0xXx1k Před rokem +13

      No you guys you can't blame others for your actions. Idc what spinner did he didn't make Rick do anything. Just the same I underage Jimmy being upset he got shot and paralyzed but it's not his fault that's absurd..
      🧡🦇

  • @KitsuneRokaku
    @KitsuneRokaku Před rokem +63

    If wish Sean hadn't left in season 4. I would've loved to see them explore his PTSD and survivor's guilt. There was potential to tell a story there.

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Před 2 měsíci +1

      They traded him for Emma to be sexual….why?

    • @KitsuneRokaku
      @KitsuneRokaku Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ninjanibba4259 I still don't get it either. They could've still done that *and* have Sean stick around. I just don't get it.

  • @samlewis6487
    @samlewis6487 Před rokem +64

    Even without the audio, seeing the scene with Rick and Paige is still terrifying. Actually, all of the scenes with Rick holding his bag are terrifying.

    • @samlewis6487
      @samlewis6487 Před rokem +7

      I'm physically shaking from watching that segment of the video. I need to take a break from the video at this point. It's a great episode and handles things really well, but that's what makes it so intense.

    • @MrAjking808
      @MrAjking808 Před 2 měsíci

      @@samlewis6487dramatic asf seriously lol 😂

  • @Tesseract_King
    @Tesseract_King Před rokem +89

    The Rick and Toby friendship is really interesting to me; in high school I was the kind of friendly but socially clueless outcast kid that was like, one step up the social ladder from the resentful Rick types and they sought my friendship a lot.
    They were frequently pretty misogynistic, and expected me to be as well. I pushed back when I could, but usually just drifted away.
    One of them, that I was relatively close with, ended up falling down the alt right hole.
    Probably a lot of them did.
    I feel like Rick would have.

  • @FireofGia111
    @FireofGia111 Před rokem +122

    I actually wrote about Jimmy for a Disabilities Studies class and during my annual rewatch, I found his story with disability in 4, 6, and 7 to be excellent! (He was barely in 5 lol) I have a physical disability and to see a young guy acquire a disability and use a mobility aid was so good to see. I think he contributed to me deciding to finally get a cane

  • @starsinthesky7997
    @starsinthesky7997 Před rokem +35

    Caitlyn’s “storyline” in “Jessie’s Girl” is one of the reasons why that episode is one of the worst episodes of Degrassi. Hands down. 😡

  • @kamcalste
    @kamcalste Před rokem +88

    this season is so fascinating, because I think it includes some of the best episodes of the series, but it's also definitely the turning point of when Degrassi: TNG started to go a little wonky. I think the continuity was a really nice addition - especially since Degrassi purported to deal with real teen issues, it was nice to see some of those storylines have actual, long-term impact on these characters. but it definitely makes the "lore" a lot messier and requires the writers to start balancing character arcs with the issues they wanted to represent. I remember one of the big jokes in fandom at the time was that Degrassi was the worst school on earth because of all the horrible things that happened to the characters, and how much trauma they all have by the end. even with such a big, ensemble cast, there were only so many characters to give issue episodes to.

    • @Rookiewompus
      @Rookiewompus  Před rokem +21

      Yes, I remember those jokes! They definitely remain true. Transferring to Degrassi is one of the worst things that could happen to a teen lol

    • @crystallewis5902
      @crystallewis5902 Před rokem +14

      And sadly, it seems like Lakehurst was worse than Degrassi, judging from all the shady characters we saw from that school lol.

    • @devonmunn5728
      @devonmunn5728 Před měsícem +1

      Storytelling wise it's obviously due to the writers wanting to tackle as much social issues as possible. Realism wise I would speculate that it's due to it being in Toronto, the biggest city in Canada as well as one of the biggest cities in North America period and due to it being a school in such a massive city and Degrassi having a large student body more people equals more problems. It's like how massive cities tend to have issues with crime because more people equals more things in general happening at a given location. If Degrassi was set in a small rural town it would definitely come off to people as less believable but since Degrassi is set in a massive city it definitely has a more believability to it

  • @skylarmae02
    @skylarmae02 Před 9 měsíci +10

    when you mentioned Danny Van Zandt i was totally shocked that he’s in the show as early as season 4. they do nothing with his character, which is such a waste. younger siblings of older degrassi members are always some of my favorite characters-mostly cus i love their siblings lol.

  • @breecreates1161
    @breecreates1161 Před rokem +70

    You typically blow me away with your analysis but your point about Snake being critical of Raditch but failing to do anything himself in the Rick situation is both mind blowing and vindicating to me. As I’ve gotten older I’ve realized that Snake (as much as I love him) has been consistently hypocritical throughout his run on the show. He scolds Emma for a fight she has with Manny in one of the early seasons, telling her “She’s your best friend, I think it’s time you remember that,” and the last time I watched that scene I screamed at my TV. It’s especially egregious because I really don’t think Wheels’ story would’ve gone the way it did if someone had stuck through his bad behavior and intervened. While I don’t blame Snake or anyone else for not standing by him, it’s painful to watch Snake’s hypocrisy as the show goes on.

    • @breecreates1161
      @breecreates1161 Před rokem +8

      I also enjoyed the fashion corner, it will be missed!

    • @Rookiewompus
      @Rookiewompus  Před rokem +17

      Totally! I love Snake, but he's absolutely imperfect. I don't know how much of that is intentional, but it's fun to think about.

  • @carleeelizabeth
    @carleeelizabeth Před rokem +83

    1:04:40 - spinner: hey manny we're trying to prove a point with craig and ashley would you mind showing up to band practice to play the tambourine awkwardly?
    manny: a chance to make the two people who ruined my life last year extremely uncomfortable? i'm in.

  • @larrylegend574
    @larrylegend574 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I need you to finish this series. Where are you? 😩

    • @devonmunn5728
      @devonmunn5728 Před měsícem +2

      I want them to as well but obviously life can be busy and with how the world can be I don't doubt that she can get burnout. Plus making these videos definitely isn't a walk in the park, as much as I want Kat to finish these videos ASAP I am patient enough to wait eventually for more time come out and when the next one comes out I am clicking on it IMMEDIATELY

  • @alexandrialeroi772
    @alexandrialeroi772 Před rokem +17

    Alex never dealing with consequences for the whole Rick thing has always bothered me. Like drives me insane. I have rewatched the show so many time and googled the hell out of it. No answer given.

  • @samirascarlett
    @samirascarlett Před rokem +10

    I find Raditch dismissal was an "out with the old" type of vibe because since he had been there for so long he had ideas and tactics that just wouldn't work for the newer generations. Teachers were a lot more no nonsense, I'm 39 and I can only imagine how some of my teachers would handle these issues.

  • @jjthepikazard212
    @jjthepikazard212 Před rokem +61

    i like the episodes of degrassi where they skip school to do fun stuff. they're always fun

    • @Pinkladyisv
      @Pinkladyisv Před rokem +7

      I loved those episodes! I never skipped school so I lived through them.

    • @scottmcneely1927
      @scottmcneely1927 Před měsícem

      I didn't like it when they blatantly stole from movies, though. That episode was basically "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" and they had another one that was "The Breakfast Club".

  • @mmarceline3
    @mmarceline3 Před rokem +55

    i appreciate the way you talked about bipolar disorder. like i’m tearing up because idk it was supportive and validating and i appreciate you taking the time to emphasize important things not just relating to BD but all the topics mentioned. but especially that people with BD all aren’t violent. even in my worst moments i’ve never physically hurt someone

  • @Cas-nq5oq
    @Cas-nq5oq Před rokem +10

    Like others have stated the fashion and music corners were really good actually. You should bring them back for the next video

  • @catsrule1343
    @catsrule1343 Před rokem +51

    I literally just finished rewatching the next generation today and this is like my reward for finishing 14 whole seasons. Love your videos!

  • @t.l.4652
    @t.l.4652 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Every now and then I rewatch these deep dives, they fuel my obsession with degrassi. I can't wait for your next video!

  • @imbuffysummers
    @imbuffysummers Před 8 měsíci +10

    I’m genuinely so heartbroken there’s still no follow up to this video even an entire year later 😭

    • @juanitahulsey630
      @juanitahulsey630 Před 7 měsíci

      I was literally thinking the EXACT same thing🥺

    • @maddie-mv1mk
      @maddie-mv1mk Před 6 měsíci +5

      She’s working on it now! The creator had to take a step back from CZcams for a while.

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Před 4 měsíci

      @@maddie-mv1mkgreat

  • @MsTinkerbelle87
    @MsTinkerbelle87 Před rokem +14

    Take care of yourself Kat! A shooting at prom (Adam vs Vince) is coming up so please don’t feel like you have to rush these, we appreciate them but your mental health matters more. ❤

  • @JustHereForCats
    @JustHereForCats Před rokem +6

    I freaking LOVE Heather Sinclair 😂😂 I about died when they introduced Holly J to the school

  • @macyg
    @macyg Před rokem +7

    I really love Spinner and his redemption arc, but Jimmy’s moment when he calls him selfish for telling him the truth is my favorite of this season. I feel that Degrassi calls back to this in season 13, when Imogen ultimately doesn’t tell Becky about her and Adam. Honestly, not everything has to be said.
    I love these videos btw ❤ I just finished a Degrassi rewatch and was kind of disappointed. It wasn’t as good as I remembered and I think I felt that way because of the Kevin Smith episodes.

  • @ChrisG667
    @ChrisG667 Před rokem +41

    Love Jake Epstein's story about that they had the hotel room and had one take to destroy it, so dude ended up electrocuting himself slightly when he destroyed the light but he had to keep going..even when the director was like :O

  • @NCC-1031-A
    @NCC-1031-A Před rokem +49

    I always drop what I'm doing to watch your new Degrassi deep dives, and I'm never disappointed.
    It's clear how much passion and work you put into these, and I love that you don't shy away from criticizing what doesn't work (either at the time of airing, or now in hindsight.)
    I can't wait for the next deep dive when it's ready. I have mixed feelings about the seasons we're going into and I'm so interested to hear your takes!
    Thanks so much for all the great work you do on these videos! 💕

  • @litneyloxan
    @litneyloxan Před rokem +7

    34:17 couldn’t help but think about Carrie. Rick definitely had his Carrie moment

  • @ToShanshuinFiction
    @ToShanshuinFiction Před rokem +17

    The Spike reference is absolutely perfect, tbh. 🤣

  • @TheKpa11
    @TheKpa11 Před rokem +24

    I am glad you brought up Raditch. Same actor since the original, and his final scene and send off is being forced to resign and be pushed aside
    It’s realistic, sure. And flavor wise it works in an interesting way, but from a 4th wall perspective it just feels disrespectful. If there was maybe a final dialogue from Snake maybe it’d be a bit more of a proper sendoff

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I didn’t like it either, imagine being the person that binged this franchise to this point for his character decline and sendoff horribly….

  • @Uwubestie
    @Uwubestie Před rokem +27

    Girl I’m so fking excited for this. Honestly I’d send you money just so you could always work on this series 😭 it gives me so much joy to relive my teen years watching this show while it was airing (yeah I’m an old far)

  • @Katy-ys6rn
    @Katy-ys6rn Před rokem +14

    I will never be able to put in words how much the show impacted me, at least not anywhere near as well as the thesis level GENIUS of your series. As a teen who did in fact try to pirate most of the series using Limewire and had "Everything's Dust" pirated and on many burned CDs, this hits all the right notes for me right down to early Windows motif. This season especially touched on very personal issues to myself and even though Degrassi does tend to drastically over dramatize things, we do that as teens anyway and I think it captures that all consuming self discovery and confusion. I will say though, that some story lines that are appreciated but not as well executed, like Craig's for example, sometimes come down to how well or not...well the actors understand and/or portray the part. I too wore black and red jelly bands with my Hot Topic princess get up and heard whisperings of "sex bands", hell I even remember the soda can tab thing "sex tabs" discussed in 6th grade, so I did miss the fashion and music corner this episode but absolutely appreciate the time spent on the overarching season recap. Maybe it's more thrilling for those of us that lived it? Idk. I could go on and on but I just thank you so very much for this series and, again, struggle to find the words for how happy and nostalgic they make me feel.

  • @Hazeljv3
    @Hazeljv3 Před rokem +22

    I cannot express how much I love these Degrassi videos. I've been rewatching the first four basically every week or two for the last few months and I was so delighted to see this pop up in my subscriptions! Keep up the great work, Kat!

  • @myjunkdrawer8014
    @myjunkdrawer8014 Před rokem +17

    Oh my gosh am I glad to see you! I really thought you had decided to bin this series so I am pleasantly surprised.
    Thoughts -
    1) Paige and Manny would have been an interesting romantic dynamic to explore. Because they are both so "extra" and so similar in so many ways that they either would have been the best couple on the show and the ones who ended up happily married or would have flamed out in the most fascinating and fun way , with no in between.
    2) It's interesting to me how Manny seems to only truly be interested in a guy after she's seen him with someone else. Maybe it's because when Craig said she was "too young" , her brain took that as "You aren't pretty or good enough." (probably because of her strict upbringing). So now she goes after guys with girlfriends to "prove" to herself that she is. Because if she can get a guy with a girlfriend then she must be really special and clearly good enough (which is obviously not true but in 15 year old girl with trauma out the ying yang's mind it makes sense).
    3) Knowing some of the plot points coming up for him I kinda wish they had just killed Snake like the message boards rumored. It would have been so heartbreaking and hard to watch but this seems to be the heartbreak season so it makes sense and I am not looking forward to certain plot points with this character.
    4) I love how all of Jimmy's friends basically take advantage of his lack of mobility to have a captative audience to vent about their drama. It feels like a very high school thing to do.

  • @morticiax540
    @morticiax540 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Ephraim Ellis absolutely crushed this role. Junior High Me really wanted to fix Rick okay

  • @thebd798
    @thebd798 Před rokem +13

    This came right as I was thinking of restarting the series from the beginning! Season 4 really was the season that changed a lot of the show for me (in a good way). Everyone stepped up their game, but specifically, the Rick/shooting storyline, Craig's storyline, Emma's storyline, Sean talking to his parents about the shooting🥺, MARCO DUMPING DYLAN: all moments that made an impact.
    Also, this video unlocked how deeply in love 15-year-old me was with Jake Epstein lmao.

  • @joaniaho
    @joaniaho Před rokem +12

    I think the story line with Sean seeing Tyler is because Tyler implies that Sean was bullied while living in Wasega. Sean snapped one day and in a moment of rage acted out in violence. I think it's meant to say that he may understand on some level how Rick fealt in the moment leading up to the shooting. Also serves for seeing Sean in a different light. He comes to Degrassi and had an image of a bad boy, a image he may have wanted to portray to avoid further bullying?? That's my fan theory anyway. Makes Sean an even more interesting character.

    • @Rookiewompus
      @Rookiewompus  Před rokem +3

      I never considered this! That's a really interesting interpretation!

    • @joaniaho
      @joaniaho Před rokem +5

      I think that's also why Ellie says 'your stories don't mesh'. Sean's story has always been that Tyler and him had a fight, not much more. Tyler says "wouldn't want to take your lunch money ... AGAIN" that paints a completely different imagine of Sean than anyone ever saw. Tyler is claiming to be Sean's bully! 🤯

    • @hostileX7
      @hostileX7 Před rokem +2

      I love this.
      Looking back, and I have been binging and rewatching Degrassi like crazy over the summer(how I found this delightful retrospective series), it shines some light on Jimmy's early teasing of Sean when he first came back; Maybe Sean was a target during his first run at Degrassi. There seemed to be a vibe of Sean originally being friends with him and Paige and those guys so Jimmy was just busting his balls for being a grade behind and Sean was over it but now I think they ALWAYS teased and bullied him. Maybe because of his home life, which we know he is not proud of, Sean was that misfit kid from the projects everybody treated like shit for being "trash".

  • @CookieMonster1390
    @CookieMonster1390 Před rokem +3

    RIP the fashion corner, my favorite segment! 😭

  • @smithens8867
    @smithens8867 Před rokem +38

    i am one of the viewers that has never seen a single episode of Degrassi so these videos are always a total trip! i always appreciate the thought you put into discussing the after school special issues the show is known for while also being super entertaining and informative. (i am going to second another commenter about missing fashion corner though.)
    another good video and i am looking forward to the next one(s)! 💓

  • @user-sq4tm3oq7w
    @user-sq4tm3oq7w Před 8 měsíci +7

    Will we ever get part 4? Lol I love these!

  • @jamienattier
    @jamienattier Před rokem +12

    Never clicked on something so fast in my life. Thank you! Cannot wait to watch this!
    This is my childhood. The original TNG cast were basically my classmates. I grew up with them.

    • @jamienattier
      @jamienattier Před rokem +1

      PS, I loved all your previous deep dives and
      I’ve been really looking forward to this one!

  • @mjj6976
    @mjj6976 Před rokem +5

    2 hours of Degrassi content after I just spent 2 months of my life doing a complete rewatch from Degrassi Jr High through Degrassi Next Class?!!? SIGN ME UP.

  • @sleepysadpoet
    @sleepysadpoet Před 4 měsíci +2

    "I didn't know he was gonna bring a gun to school!"
    "Really?" Kills me Everytime

  • @enitacehic
    @enitacehic Před rokem +2

    Time Stands Still changed me when I first watched it at 12 years old

  • @flarefox726
    @flarefox726 Před rokem +4

    I appreciate the conversation on Craig's bipolar. It is true that most people don't get violent but some do. As someone who's family member had it I've witnessed a lot of highs and lows and violent episodes so I related so much to Craig's storyline. It helped me so much to better understand my brother and what he was experiencing. These are the Degrassi moments that made the show so good.

  • @SummerMaluQueen
    @SummerMaluQueen Před rokem +8

    Please make another deep dive video!! I love these so much! I feel like i’m on Facetime watching degrassi with you!

  • @samanthacreeden8388
    @samanthacreeden8388 Před 9 dny

    It takes a lot for me to cry at shows, but I BAWLED my eyes out at the scene of Sean breaking down to his parents

  • @courtneycummins1946
    @courtneycummins1946 Před rokem +19

    Girl I never comment on videos but I just want to say the work you put into these is so amazing and so thorough!!!

  • @TwoBs
    @TwoBs Před rokem +3

    I can’t get enough Degrassi deep dives. This one is amazing. Well done!
    The Emma part about the bracelets sent me back to 2004 when I had bought some of the black ones and wore them in 10th grade. Was going through the “Avril just isn’t punk enough for me” phase.
    I overheard a girl behind me in my pre-calculus class talk with her friend about how I was wearing the black bracelets and saying stuff about me being “loose” … you know how teenagers can be when they’re talking about someone, but they’ll say it loud enough so the person they’re talking about is within earshot distance to hear it while pretending it’s totally not on purpose lol.
    My friend had to clue me in on what they were even talking about. I didn’t know what the bracelets supposedly “meant”. I felt mortified because I actually had lost my virginity to my long-time boyfriend the weekend prior and was now thinking that me wearing the black bracelets was basically broadcasting that I did the deed and am open for business. I remember taking them off and putting them in my messenger bag to never really wear them again. I just wanted to accessorize with some stuff I got on sale from Hot Topic.
    I eventually wore them again, but I’d be a liar if I said I didn’t question others wearing them because of that stupid rumor lol. The 2000s was such a weird time with stuff like that.

  • @chimpmasterflex
    @chimpmasterflex Před 10 měsíci +5

    I hope you're able to keep these going eventually. I've been binging some degrassi lately, and your videos highlight a bit more than the same 10-ish plotpoints, and it's nice to see. Very well made content, with interesting views and takes.
    I know this might me a controversial topic, but I went through very similar things to Craig, outside of the bipolar diagnosis and some of the things surrounding that. But honestly I wish he wasn't actually diagnosed and was kept as someone who may randomly have outburst moments, but is largely chill. Maybe even had a certain "tick" that could easily set him off. Like maybe on a trip they go golfing, and he has a flashback to the door breaking down. Whether it's more of ptsd situation, or something he tries to overcome, I'd have just preferred those. Or even have him sort of "re-create" the dinner when his dad comes back, he gets mad at whichever girl (maybe Ash?) and storms out. She chases after him, and he backhands her in a fit of rage, though maybe not as severe as his dad's. Then make it about "breaking the cycle". I know it'd sort of be similar in a way to Rick, but the sort of "cause and effect" of Craig's dad was just something I lived through. When you live in that environment for so long, you just sort of develop the same sort of anger issues that are being expressed upon you, even if they may not be as severe. That funeral scene is so well-done in particular, and I did almost the exact same thing, but swap laughter with rage. He didn't need to ever go "full" rick, but I just felt that I related to Craig less and less in a way. I mean like especially later, but I'm sure you get it. Just my take.

  • @francescawhite4166
    @francescawhite4166 Před rokem +5

    Every time a new degrassi video is uploaded is like a holiday for me

  • @tamarag9975
    @tamarag9975 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I hope you’re doing alright. Although I just really want the next part in the Degrassi Deep Dive, I hope you’re doing immensely well and better than how you felt when you made that community post.

  • @maddie-mv1mk
    @maddie-mv1mk Před rokem +8

    When I saw this video was out, I had to go back and watch the whole series you’ve done! Just now at this video. First, I want to say that I absolutely adore this retrospective. It’s what got me to watch Degrassi for the first time. Secondly, PLEASE bring back fashion corner!!!! I LOVE this segment and it’s a good way to break up some of the harder/darker topics you discuss in here. It’s also a good way of seeing how trends changed as the series evolved. Anyways, thank you for all the hard work you’ve done on this series. It’s seriously one of my favs, and your voice is so cozy and warm :)

  • @uniraffesaur
    @uniraffesaur Před rokem +1

    One of my favorite unintentional consequences of CZcams content moderation and monetization is the various code words people will use to avoid demonetization.
    “Podiatrist” instead of “pedophile” is so A+

  • @2moldy
    @2moldy Před rokem +4

    these degrassi deep dives are awesome i love the lil intermissions and i cant waittttt for the next part omg i binged it all in one night . thanks for making these!!

  • @kindofkelly
    @kindofkelly Před rokem +11

    this is 100% what i needed during my work day today!!! i've been binging degrassi recaps from various youtubers, so i'm in full on degrassi mode. soooo excited to see you uploaded!!

  • @tuskiewuskie2355
    @tuskiewuskie2355 Před rokem +4

    I am just now returning to neopets, and rewatching Degrassi. So finding your channel has been a godsend. More neopets content please!! :D

  • @ariannabanane
    @ariannabanane Před rokem +7

    These videos are an awesome accompaniment to processing Degrassi through adult eyes after having watched it as a kid, and then re-watching it as an adult. Really interesting and fascinating work, thank you!

  • @kyragaye8542
    @kyragaye8542 Před rokem +4

    Okay but I hate how Ashley says “who was this guy if not some psycho?” Like she doesn’t know exactly who Rick is.

  • @erinhall1042
    @erinhall1042 Před rokem +1

    I am obsessed and checking far too often for #4

  • @Jamessmith-xk3fh
    @Jamessmith-xk3fh Před rokem +5

    I'm glad you're back I love to hear CZcamsrs go through each episode or talk about Degrassi

  • @garbcat
    @garbcat Před 8 měsíci +1

    Hey thank you so much for giving Heather Sinclair her own spotlight in this part. I adore offscreen characters and Heather especially, she may be on the higher end of my favorite TNG characters just because of her offscreen status almost painting her as a myth. It's just heartbreaking that she'll probably never get to appear on one of your fashion corners because of that

  • @SeyvonTheGenie
    @SeyvonTheGenie Před 5 měsíci +2

    i just binged this entire playlist & now i’m crushed you haven’t posted the next one in over a year😭💔 where did you go???

    • @probablynargles
      @probablynargles Před 4 měsíci +1

      Was just searching for this answer!! 😭😭

  • @Caittycat
    @Caittycat Před rokem +8

    I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR VIDEOS SO MUCH! Its like a little present every time i see one of these videos pop up on my homepage, you are one of my favorite people on youtube for sure!!

  • @lazhuli5058
    @lazhuli5058 Před rokem +3

    While I’m not bipolar, my mom was diagnosed later in her adult life and I’ve know people around my age with bipolar. I never considered the scene of Craig hitting Joey solely to his bipolar. My mom had violent episodes through my childhood but she also experienced abuse. After rewatching these episodes after my mom’s diagnosis, Craig’s violence just makes more sense to me as opposed to “mentally ill people are scary and violent.” I think the violence was a combination of his manic episode and how he was raised.

  • @devonmunn5728
    @devonmunn5728 Před rokem +10

    FINALLY ITS HERE!!!!!!!!! I've been waiting for the next part
    EDIT: Also it's ok that you took time off. I and others surely understand
    EDIT: I'll probably add more but I have to say. This has been my favorite Degrassi retrospective out of all of the ones I have seen. It's very detailed even going into the time around the show aired. I was born in 2000 so I was a child around this time so it's interesting to see more detail about a time I was around
    Last EDIT: Also I wasn't a fan of the Kevin Smith episodes this season. It made him come off a bit full of himself. Plus Caitlin in general in Next Gen comes off as a huge fool

  • @Heyheyhaleyd
    @Heyheyhaleyd Před rokem +10

    Thank you so much!! I live for these video essays of Degrassi. It gives me the Degrassi content I need without rewatching the entire show. You really go into full detail which I love.
    Also I’m 19 years old who recently watched the series from April 2020-August 2021. And I tried & tried to research the jelly bracelets to know if it was true or not. It was also mentioned in an episode of “George Lopez”, but my I never could find out.

  • @jerryserrano5218
    @jerryserrano5218 Před rokem +4

    Been in a Degrassi mood and rewatched the first 4 parts yesterday. I am being gifted today.

  • @nahpro6662
    @nahpro6662 Před rokem +3

    These videos GIVE ME LIFE. I just binge watched all of your degrassi videos for a second time. Thank you for all your hard work to entertain me.

  • @MariahJoleigh
    @MariahJoleigh Před 4 měsíci +2

    Me finding this video a year late is a crime. Amazing video! You have really insightful information and opinions.

  • @DukDukDerek
    @DukDukDerek Před rokem +4

    My older step siblings always watched Degrassi growing up but I just had no interest at the time of caring about a long running drama series so this series of yours has been great for me to see what it was all about! Have loved all the parts so far and always look forward to more.

  • @katinasoleil
    @katinasoleil Před rokem +2

    We looooove the fashion-filled intermissions here at my house!

  • @ashleigh4729
    @ashleigh4729 Před rokem +8

    I think they should have fleshed out the relationship between Emma and Jay more, especially with her desire to control things, her eating disorder and always trying to help the flawed victim. Emma and Jay made more sense to me than Manny and Jay...I feel like they rushed the whole subplot of Spinner and Manny and in the future it would have made more sense for those two to end up together...instead of what we got. I wish we also got to see more of Alex's perspective after the school shooting I feel like that would have established more of her character.

  • @nahpro6662
    @nahpro6662 Před rokem +2

    Also I would love a “corner” just for Spinners many hair style eras. He is one of my fav characters!

  • @tajhstallworth3141
    @tajhstallworth3141 Před rokem +3

    These retrospectives have been EVERYTHING!

  • @ChrisG667
    @ChrisG667 Před rokem +6

    Also I like how you mention Jumping the Shark in the same video where Sean jetskiing away from his problems dramatically which could be seen as Degrassi's own literal shark jumping moment lol. And while I won't say that was 'Jumping the Shark', I will say that stuff after Sean's departure in Season 4 (besides Emma and Craig's two parters imo) does slowly lead to a point where the show becomes more about trying to top itself and 'go there' instead of trying to be a 'good' show, if that makes sense.

  • @Pinkladyisv
    @Pinkladyisv Před rokem +6

    Season 4 is so incredible. It’s really just amazing writing.
    Thank you for the video! It’s always a treat to watch.

  • @francescawhite4166
    @francescawhite4166 Před rokem +6

    My fav seasons of degrassi are 3, 4, and 10 so I'm super ready for this 😌

  • @Chalcedony6421
    @Chalcedony6421 Před rokem +10

    Kat: "Is it the right thing to do? Is it appropriate?"
    Me: Yes
    Kat: "Absolutely not"

  • @hannahzerbey3146
    @hannahzerbey3146 Před rokem +4

    I’m so excited for the next I can not wait out of all the reviews/retrospectives Iv seen on this show on CZcams yours is definitely the best 💙

  • @marvelousTUD
    @marvelousTUD Před rokem +4

    I completely respect your choice, but just let the record show that I loved the fashion and music corners and would love to see them make a return in future Degrassi videos!

  • @saigeennis4963
    @saigeennis4963 Před rokem +8

    I love these deep dives and retrospectives!! And I do actually enjoy the little fashion corner intermissions 🤗

  • @clover2950
    @clover2950 Před rokem +9

    Your videos are so comforting to watch. The time and research you put in is awesome, I just want to thank you for creating really great content! Also, I really enjoyed the fashion corner segments, so I vote to continue them if you want^^

  • @5centdaniel
    @5centdaniel Před rokem +3

    This is just what I needed today to ignore the approaching Hurricane!

  • @ghosthallgremlin
    @ghosthallgremlin Před rokem +4

    i mean i always enjoy the intermissions. though i kind of love everything about these videos. degrassi was something i discovered in middle school when for some unknowable reason our teacher played the entirety of the original seasons of the show and i loved it. then going home, watching the tv guide and finding there was now a next gen of this series was really exciting and i do really feel like this show was an important part of my life.
    watching you do these recaps is so great because as much as i have wanted to go back and watch it through again i struggle to watch tv and movies (i know this is not like a real problem but it's very much related to my terrible mental health so it feels like one).
    so thanks for making these videos

  • @prescott0913
    @prescott0913 Před 6 měsíci +1

    KAT WHERE ARE YOUUUU?!?!
    I need the season 5 video!

  • @fullofspoilers7446
    @fullofspoilers7446 Před rokem +7

    Was having the worst day and this upload surprised me! Landed at the best time ❤ Your vids are always so in depth and I love your perspective on the series!

  • @nahpro6662
    @nahpro6662 Před rokem +4

    Why does Rick have to be so attractive to me when I was a kid tho, not his actions mostly just Ephraim himself. I would totally fall into where terry was 😭

  • @dktro8831
    @dktro8831 Před rokem +1

    Somthing I find endlessly interesting is that in regards to Kevin Smith's role in Degrassi the Next Generation is that it indicates that he either never met his wife Jennifer or they broke up, which in turn means his daughter Harley Quinn Smith was probably never born. What brought me to this conclusion? Kevin married his wife in 1999 their daughter was born later in that year, and his apprences in DNG for season 4 is in 2004. This is a thing that has endlessly fascinted me sense i relaized it

  • @aaliyahnicole5972
    @aaliyahnicole5972 Před rokem +1

    thinking about the scene with sean, tyler, and the aftermath: i feel like the creative choice was to represent chaos. new trauma can sometimes resurface old trauma. whatever the storyline is with tyler doesn’t matter to us as the viewer. the bigger picture seems to be that it REALLY affected him and now he’s majorly affected by his showdown with rick. overall, sean is messed up. and his trip home to his parents was the boiling point. nothing makes sense to him. he’s angsty and acting out. his decisions are haphazard and chaotic. this scene is done well in fleshing out sean’s character and backstory as well as painting a picture of his current mental and emotional state. sometimes there’s no words to communicate immense trauma, seeing that he couldn’t open up earlier in the episode.
    love this video. degrassi forever.❤

  • @ambers3344
    @ambers3344 Před rokem +4

    I love the effort you've put into Degrassi I hope you cover the next class too!

  • @kennedyi14
    @kennedyi14 Před rokem +4

    Thank you so much for these videos! I will always drop whatever I’m doing to watch these Degrassi deep dives, no matter how long lol. They are perfectly edited and your commentary is amazing as well. I hope there is more because I need your feelings on the later TNG seasons and Eli, but Please know your hardwork does not go unnoticed!

  • @RyanStorey1231
    @RyanStorey1231 Před rokem +6

    Ooh, you're getting into the good stuff now.
    I really love these Degrassi retrospectives and I've been looking forward to this one for a few months now. You're amazing.

  • @mkayyy1918
    @mkayyy1918 Před rokem +3

    I hate you for that OC reference! LMAO you made burst out laughing at one of the most serious moments in the show

  • @dillpicklez
    @dillpicklez Před 10 měsíci +3

    Patiently waiting for the next part! I've been such a huge fan since I was younger and you do such a good job covering these series

  • @GabrielaDay
    @GabrielaDay Před rokem +4

    The pure JOY I felt when seeing this video in my inbox. Thank you. This is by far and away my favorite season of Degrassi and revisiting it though your lens was such a delightful and insightful experience

  • @nowknowthis
    @nowknowthis Před 3 měsíci +1

    Also I think with the Tyler situation it was implying that Sean felt like he was also Rick. He was perhaps bullied by Tyler and he lost control and in a violent outburst changed someone’s life forever.