Hi Ryky. I know this is a little bit late. I fully endorse your efforts to include German knives because this is a great range of really good deals out there. I would also be very interested in seeing your reaction to a Belgium Brocken. This is actually one of the polishing stones I grew up with when my father taught me how to sharpen knives.
Greetings from Australia. I own a Miyabi Birchwood. Wondering whether a Cerax 1000/3000 combination would suffice for sharpening. Also what would be adequate for grinding out chips? Ta!
"I don't like high gloss on my knife" I think it is ok for a kitchen knife like Gyuto, but for single bevel or Yanagiba you need that clean polish bevel. From shinogi line down to the cutting edge, that's why when you see a professional sushi chef they often use a mirror finish Yanagiba or honyaki. They chose that finish for a reason. You can slice fish like feels like slicing thru air. Meat does stick to your blade or create friction.
Where should I get or look for With 10000 and 30000 grit stones I recently made a knife that as far exceed any thing I’ve done before and plan to sell it for quite a bit and want it to be the absolute sharpest and most polished I can possiably get
I have the Shapton Pro 5000 and the 6000 King and think your comments are about right. The Shapton 5k is not a fun stone to use, and i would happily swap mine for something else on your desk. That's not to say it's a bad stone, Shapton are a superb company producing highly effective tools, but it is not a pleasure to use. It does work very well, very quickly and is much admired by wood workers i believe. However there are better stones for kitchen knives if you're the kind of person that actually enjoys the meditative process of sharpening. My 6K King - a standard, thinner stone than the combi stone here - is actually more pleasant to use and has better feedback. It does get very soft and dishes easily, but it feels smooth and is rewarding to sharpen on. One of these days i shall get my hands on the Suehiro Rika, a stone i'm confident i'm going to appreciate.
Hi Ryky! Got a question for you. Considering I use carbon steel knives hrc 62-65, after a day at work they are still sharp but not razor sharp. What stone would you recommend (just one stone) as a quick touch up instead of starting over from a 1k because I think it will consumes to much steel over time. Thx
Hello there I like so mutch what you doing and I learn with every single video I see,but I have a question,I sharp for restaurants kitchen knives and I have some problems with the stones,they seems to dull mutch faster,so I need some advice what profesional stones you recomand to sharp profesional kitchen knives I use between 400 to 3000 and then to finish I use leather strope,thx
Hi! Have you tried to finish the sharpening process with leather? After finishing with 3k or 8k or something do a cut test and then sharpen a bit with leather (just a couple of moves) and do the cut test again. I'd really like to see if there is any difference.
Great video as always. I needed this comparison. I still haven't decided for sure what ro get but a comment at the end of your video Intrigued me. You mentioned selling some stones. I know that was a while back but if you are still interested, let me know.
Actually, this is good because you will have more for comparisons. I can't wait to see what you will review next with the new product that you opened on the other video.
thanks again for all you do. My current stone lineup (even though I have many of the other stones that you reviewed) I start with the shapton glass 320, then use the Naniwa/chosera professional 1000 and then end with the Cholera 3000. That is from no edge (I make knives) to wicked sharp. I have you to thank for this line up!!!!!
Hey ryky, gonna buy à kramer knife this week and I'm choosing between the carbon steel or the damascus one.. I've actually waited to buy the knife because I'm waiting on your review of them. And Also I need to know how reactive/sensitive the 52100 steel is. When will your review be out? Thanks in advance for any help and keep up the good work!! Sincerely, your most loyal swedish viking
Question, I am looking to invest into a set of stones not $1000 but $400 or so and have learned that cheap stones simply suck ... I have bought many stones but I get the best results hands down from my simple Naniwa Traditional 1k/3k combo stone that I have had for five years and I get a reasonably mirrored edge with the 3k without a ton of effort ... I am choosing really between the Naniwa Super Stones and the Shapton Glass stones they will be similar grits and then I am thinking adding an 8-12k to the set ... I have watched your reviews of both but do you prefer one over the other ? It's a tough one to me I trust Naniwa as their lower end stone produces consistent extremely sharp knives for me but the hardness and smaller profile of the glass stone is quite appealing as well
overall, the shapton glass stones are faster, and offer better feedback. super stones are a bit soft, especially at the lower end of their grit ranges. so, if you don't mind mixing, i'd go with super stones for grits over 3K, and shapton glass for under 3k. basically,. super stones are great polishing stones, not great sharpening stones. shapton glass are great all around, but i would get the the shapton pro 120 over the shapton glass 120. here are my top picks for stones and knives . kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit
Thanks for the quick response I Interesting you like the shapton pro 120 I thought they were on your don't buy list but at that grit I can understand feel not being of concern ... I am going to buy the shapton glass 1000 and then move into super stones for higher grits perhaps 4k and 8k as I know the Naniwa stones will provide the polish I am looking for ... the shapton glass stones are appealing though for certain I just know the Naniwa products are excellent
So I've ended up getting more stones than I originally thought of course ... I ended up with the shapton glass 320, 1000, 3000, 5000 and the Naniwa SS 8000 and 12000 I probably will never go through that entire progression but I had a gift card and decided after the 1000 it's a matter of what I am using the knife for ... my chefs knife I don't see a reason to go past 3,000 but my deba for example I may take all the way to make filleting fish more pleasurable ... cost me under $500 including some other accessories
"Burrfection" Because it's a Scandi grind LT Wright Genesis that came with a mirror polished bevel right out of the box and it was aesthetically pleasing so I'd like to return it to its original condition or at least as close as I can get it to its original appearance.
If the Naniwa Chosera (Professional) 3000 and Naniwa Superstone 3000 were the only two options you had and the diiference in price wasn't an issue which one would be your first choice and why? I'd appreciate feedback from other viewers as well.
I've worked in a commercial kitchen, and I'd say if you are only allowed one stone, a medium grit like a 1000 would serve you fine. Diamond plates? Not so much, for the same reasons why I don't recommend using sharpening machines. Grit/abrasion in sandpaper, waterstone/whetstone and plate works very differently.
knife sharpening norway, it's going to sharpen but it might not be the level of refinement ideal for his knife. Diamond plates don't shed trailings well (which is why some plates have dimples on them).
the 1200 atoma is nice, and can handle ALL HRC ranges. the only thing i would say, is the feedback is nothing like a whetstone. if you really want just a single 1000 grit stone, go with the Cerax 1000, OR go with the Chosera 800, both here. however, if you plan on doing any sort of flattening of polishing stones with the atoma 1200 is also great for that. Top Soaking Whetstone #320 goo.gl/AGa9km #1000 amzn.to/2cwLxWB #1000 goo.gl/wZ94xk #1000 amzn.to/2d0Th9x #5000 goo.gl/LJfGHv #5000 amzn.to/2i7wJFk #1000/6000 amzn.to/2dmxDMZ Top Splash-n-go Whetstones #120 amzn.to/2gAEZIN #320 amzn.to/2gABXEA #800 amzn.to/2d4esno #3000 amzn.to/2dmCity #6000 amzn.to/2hPGsk0 #8000 amzn.to/2vUMB4C #16,000 amzn.to/2lA9bHu #30,000 amzn.to/2lA0FIi
Can you add links to forums? I have several stones coming...Shun stone and a Paderno(inexpensive italian company) would be interesting to know if others have an opinion. Thanks How do you feel your extra equipment?Ebay?
Shun stone? Seems overpriced (that's Shun for you). You shouldn't be paying out the ass for a medium stone, much less a combination stone. For the price of a Shun stone I could buy 2 good single stones (medium and high) and get more value for my money.
Through work I have several accounts that I have to use and these were what was available to me. Assuming the Shun is a chosera it wasn't a bad deal. The other was relatively cheap along the lines of a king in price. We shall see but who knows until I get them really? Thanks for the advice.
hello, Can I not use the polishing stone after finishing on a sharpening stone(like after chosera 800)? Will the result will be the same if I use leather stop with loaded compound?
May I ask what is the purpose of the polishing stone anyway? Why do people need to move from a smaller grit to higher grit? Will it make the edge retention better than honing on the strop? As I understand honing process is removing the access materials left on the edges after we sharpen the knife, so I don’t know why there are such a high grit stone like above 8000?
Sure sorry for the 3 yr delayed answer you prob know by now. Naniwa ss is a soft high polish resin based stone, kinda not a natural feedback but with time you get the benefit of a great polish. Pro is more of a natural stone feel and great for knives but they don’t have an 8k in that range anyway but the 10k is great. The Snow White is beautiful and you can’t go wrong with it in my opinion, a true 8k and a nice feedback and results.
smokin Joe really i wanna get these stones are they good (All from naniwa) 220 speciality 400/1000/3000 professional 5000 speciality 8000 snow white 12000 speciality
Hi RIcky I have the nanawa pro 400 and the 1k and 3k stones as wellll as the king 6k and the kitayani 8k stone looking forward to you comparing the kitiyarma 8k stone to your other 8k stones does nanawa make a stone higher than the 5k stone my supplier in australia only sells stone s up to 5k in nanawaa pro stones
Agent 58 Yes, Naniwa make #10,000 and #12,000 stones. Shapton make a #30,000 and Suehiro make a #20,000 although both are the same grit, 0.48/0.5 microns respectively. Shapton make a #12,000 stone which is 0.98 microns. Naniwa #10,000 is around 1.47 microns. Naniwa Superstone (Japan only these days) #10,000 is a great polishing stone. It loads fast and feels weird but the results speak for themselves. What is available in the US is different than what is sold in Japan, and AU to a degree. We always get Japanese domestic market only products. For example, US sellers have been saying for a few years now that Naniwa Chosera and Superstone have ceased being made and changed into Professional and Specialty Stone. This is completely false as the later two lines are only for people outside Japan; the former two are still sold in Japan. Get a new supplier as most stores in AU are of a very poor quality as far as range and prices go; unless they are specialists stores who have a larger grit and company range. In a truth you’re better off buying from Japan on eBay as you will get anything you want and often for much less.
If we were to buy ONLY 1 stone for a long-term for a soft/med/hard steel, what would it be if your budget was $30? $50? $75? $100? $100+? (Something like that)
I'd wager your best option if you're looking for a single stone is a 1000/3000 combination stone. Depending on brand, I'd guess you're looking at a minimum of 60 bones for that? I could be very wrong.
Either ways, isn't going to be expensive, because medium stones aren't expensive so £30/$40 would do you just fine. I've got a Kiya 1000 roughly in that price range, and a King 1000 would have been my choice if it was mounted on a base. My problem with combination stones is that if you don't flatten both sides you start to get...problems, but the same could be said of single stones that's not mounted on a base.
REALLY hard to say. below are my current picks. 800-1200, Chosera 800 splash/go, or cerax 1000. from there, there are no wrong options. rika 5k is great. shapton glass 8000 is great. Top Soaking Whetstone #320 goo.gl/AGa9km #1000 amzn.to/2cwLxWB #1000 goo.gl/wZ94xk #1000 amzn.to/2d0Th9x #5000 goo.gl/LJfGHv #5000 amzn.to/2i7wJFk #1000/6000 amzn.to/2dmxDMZ Top Splash-n-go Whetstones #120 amzn.to/2gAEZIN #320 amzn.to/2gABXEA #800 amzn.to/2d4esno #3000 amzn.to/2dmCity #6000 amzn.to/2hPGsk0 #8000 amzn.to/2vUMB4C #16,000 amzn.to/2lA9bHu #30,000 amzn.to/2lA0FIi
have a solid backup schedule is really, really important for filmmakers (especially after you bork up :P ) Have it as thing you always to every day no matter if you film 1min or 5 hours. always back it up on a separate harddrive
Next time download a program to restore deleted data from your SD card, it is easy as two clicks if you do not write anything on the card after formating :\ (after you write on it it is not the same story as you write OVER the old datas still on the card, because yeah when you format you most of the time just tell the card it is empty but datas are still physically written on it, unless you do a big format which writes "0" all over the card.
I have a question regarding this 2 types of metal VG10 + VG2 steel "Dual Core" that is in the new Shun Hikari VS SG2 powder steel that is in the Miyabi Birchwood series Which is better??
HeyLexGo! SG2 hands down, no competition. I would look at the Miyabi Artisan line in SG2, (the 240 gyutoh is great) warikomi clad, cocobolo pakkawood handles, like 10 dps. I have the whole line and love them.
Herb Toker Wow thanks for the reply yeah I was reading online and this SG2 powder steel are the real thing. Is it true that SG2 does not require frequent sharpening?
HeyLexGo! Not nearly as much as VG10, Miyabi runs their SG2 at 63 HRc +/-, that's already a plus over VG10, but it also has about 2.2% Vanadium and 3ish % Molybdenum which is great. It's mildly more brittle than VG but I've never had problems, I wouldn't ever cut through bones/frozen foods with it though personally.
You should do your updates videos seperate. It'll help keep video focused as well us up to date! =) Been wondering why you were missing and now there is a slew of videos.
I have chosera 3000# and rika 5000# and i they are incredible..The best feeling ever ,the feedback and rubery feel of both of them..Im in love🥰
Great video again Ryky!
Thank you for this video.
Great vid!
Could you review the (King G-1 Goldstone 8000)?
There is no info on it that I can find.
Hi Ryky. I know this is a little bit late. I fully endorse your efforts to include German knives because this is a great range of really good deals out there. I would also be very interested in seeing your reaction to a Belgium Brocken. This is actually one of the polishing stones I grew up with when my father taught me how to sharpen knives.
I think I preferred your reclaimed wood wall you had before the remodel. Any plans to bring that back or do something other than the blue paint?
Greetings from Australia. I own a Miyabi Birchwood. Wondering whether a Cerax 1000/3000 combination would suffice for sharpening. Also what would be adequate for grinding out chips? Ta!
I just got the Dalstrong 10.25 in. Vg10 with 62+hardness. What stones would be recommended? Any help is greatly appreciated
"I don't like high gloss on my knife" I think it is ok for a kitchen knife like Gyuto, but for single bevel or Yanagiba you need that clean polish bevel. From shinogi line down to the cutting edge, that's why when you see a professional sushi chef they often use a mirror finish Yanagiba or honyaki. They chose that finish for a reason. You can slice fish like feels like slicing thru air. Meat does stick to your blade or create friction.
Would be great to know your opinion on Naniwa Lobster Stones.
Yeah the shaptons 5k is a good stone in the series..it is a great mid range for razors but I understand your concern for knives
Can you define what you mean by a pass? How does that translate to stoke count if you do the whole length of the blade each stroke?
Any plans to do a video on Japanese Natural stones?
Where should I get or look for With 10000 and 30000 grit stones I recently made a knife that as far exceed any thing I’ve done before and plan to sell it for quite a bit and want it to be the absolute sharpest and most polished I can possiably get
I have the Shapton Pro 5000 and the 6000 King and think your comments are about right.
The Shapton 5k is not a fun stone to use, and i would happily swap mine for something else on your desk. That's not to say it's a bad stone, Shapton are a superb company producing highly effective tools, but it is not a pleasure to use. It does work very well, very quickly and is much admired by wood workers i believe. However there are better stones for kitchen knives if you're the kind of person that actually enjoys the meditative process of sharpening.
My 6K King - a standard, thinner stone than the combi stone here - is actually more pleasant to use and has better feedback. It does get very soft and dishes easily, but it feels smooth and is rewarding to sharpen on.
One of these days i shall get my hands on the Suehiro Rika, a stone i'm confident i'm going to appreciate.
appreciate the input. you'll love the Rika.
Ryky I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Naniwa Professional 10,000 grit !
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Hi Ryky! Got a question for you.
Considering I use carbon steel knives hrc 62-65, after a day at work they are still sharp but not razor sharp. What stone would you recommend (just one stone) as a quick touch up instead of starting over from a 1k because I think it will consumes to much steel over time. Thx
Ceramic sharpening steel
@@godsdreadlocks5643 for 62-65 hrc knives?? are you crazy??
Hello there I like so mutch what you doing and I learn with every single video I see,but I have a question,I sharp for restaurants kitchen knives and I have some problems with the stones,they seems to dull mutch faster,so I need some advice what profesional stones you recomand to sharp profesional kitchen knives I use between 400 to 3000 and then to finish I use leather strope,thx
i think a good 800 or 1000 stone plus leather strop is best for you. since stropping takes much less time than 3000-6000 polishing stone.
What is the last stone that you mention called? the 5000 soaking stone link seems to go to a different stone ?
goo.gl/LJfGHv rika 5k,
Hi!
Have you tried to finish the sharpening process with leather? After finishing with 3k or 8k or something do a cut test and then sharpen a bit with leather (just a couple of moves) and do the cut test again. I'd really like to see if there is any difference.
czcams.com/video/xdsakEafFRU/video.html
Great video as always. I needed this comparison. I still haven't decided for sure what ro get but a comment at the end of your video Intrigued me. You mentioned selling some stones. I know that was a while back but if you are still interested, let me know.
all out of stones for sale. thanks for asking. just had a small number of them from my previous test series.
Actually, this is good because you will have more for comparisons. I can't wait to see what you will review next with the new product that you opened on the other video.
Do you only own/ collect kitchen knives? I'd love to see a sharpening vid of a folding knife or EDC fixed blade. Thanks
thanks again for all you do. My current stone lineup (even though I have many of the other stones that you reviewed) I start with the shapton glass 320, then use the Naniwa/chosera professional 1000 and then end with the Cholera 3000. That is from no edge (I make knives) to wicked sharp. I have you to thank for this line up!!!!!
good to hear from you, and glad you are happy with your results. great choice of stones.
Hey ryky, gonna buy à kramer knife this week and I'm choosing between the carbon steel or the damascus one.. I've actually waited to buy the knife because I'm waiting on your review of them. And Also I need to know how reactive/sensitive the 52100 steel is. When will your review be out? Thanks in advance for any help and keep up the good work!! Sincerely, your most loyal swedish viking
Lukas, will have a video out next week that will address the Kramer 52100 steel
Burrfection thanks for the reply ryky! Take care and looking forward to your vid!
Question, I am looking to invest into a set of stones not $1000 but $400 or so and have learned that cheap stones simply suck ... I have bought many stones but I get the best results hands down from my simple Naniwa Traditional 1k/3k combo stone that I have had for five years and I get a reasonably mirrored edge with the 3k without a ton of effort ... I am choosing really between the Naniwa Super Stones and the Shapton Glass stones they will be similar grits and then I am thinking adding an 8-12k to the set ... I have watched your reviews of both but do you prefer one over the other ? It's a tough one to me I trust Naniwa as their lower end stone produces consistent extremely sharp knives for me but the hardness and smaller profile of the glass stone is quite appealing as well
overall, the shapton glass stones are faster, and offer better feedback. super stones are a bit soft, especially at the lower end of their grit ranges. so, if you don't mind mixing, i'd go with super stones for grits over 3K, and shapton glass for under 3k. basically,. super stones are great polishing stones, not great sharpening stones. shapton glass are great all around, but i would get the the shapton pro 120 over the shapton glass 120. here are my top picks for stones and knives . kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit
Thanks for the quick response I Interesting you like the shapton pro 120 I thought they were on your don't buy list but at that grit I can understand feel not being of concern ... I am going to buy the shapton glass 1000 and then move into super stones for higher grits perhaps 4k and 8k as I know the Naniwa stones will provide the polish I am looking for ... the shapton glass stones are appealing though for certain I just know the Naniwa products are excellent
So I've ended up getting more stones than I originally thought of course ... I ended up with the shapton glass 320, 1000, 3000, 5000 and the Naniwa SS 8000 and 12000 I probably will never go through that entire progression but I had a gift card and decided after the 1000 it's a matter of what I am using the knife for ... my chefs knife I don't see a reason to go past 3,000 but my deba for example I may take all the way to make filleting fish more pleasurable ... cost me under $500 including some other accessories
Ryky there is a sandisk app that can save even if you reformatted.
If I want to polish a knife that's already shaving sharp could I go straight to a 6000 grit stone?
sure. but if its' already razor sharp, why bother polishing it?
"Burrfection" Because it's a Scandi grind LT Wright Genesis that came with a mirror polished bevel right out of the box and it was aesthetically pleasing so I'd like to return it to its original condition or at least as close as I can get it to its original appearance.
If the Naniwa Chosera (Professional) 3000 and Naniwa Superstone 3000 were the only two options you had and the diiference in price wasn't an issue which one would be your first choice and why? I'd appreciate feedback from other viewers as well.
chosera. faster, and will not load up.
thanks, I just ordered a Chosera 3000 on Amazon from Japan.
Very interested in Kuraku Aogami Super Gyuto review! it uses top of the line steel, carbon steel, but at 125$ range. Thank you!
i'll see what i can do
If I can only buy 1 stone for sharpening 58 to 61 hrc knives would you recommend a 1000 grit atoma plate?
I've worked in a commercial kitchen, and I'd say if you are only allowed one stone, a medium grit like a 1000 would serve you fine. Diamond plates? Not so much, for the same reasons why I don't recommend using sharpening machines. Grit/abrasion in sandpaper, waterstone/whetstone and plate works very differently.
Neil oppa atoma is very good and would serve you very well if you can sharpen. A 1000 naniwa choosera/proffesional would also be very good
knife sharpening norway, it's going to sharpen but it might not be the level of refinement ideal for his knife. Diamond plates don't shed trailings well (which is why some plates have dimples on them).
the 1200 atoma is nice, and can handle ALL HRC ranges. the only thing i would say, is the feedback is nothing like a whetstone. if you really want just a single 1000 grit stone, go with the Cerax 1000, OR go with the Chosera 800, both here. however, if you plan on doing any sort of flattening of polishing stones with the atoma 1200 is also great for that.
Top Soaking Whetstone
#320 goo.gl/AGa9km
#1000 amzn.to/2cwLxWB
#1000 goo.gl/wZ94xk
#1000 amzn.to/2d0Th9x
#5000 goo.gl/LJfGHv
#5000 amzn.to/2i7wJFk
#1000/6000 amzn.to/2dmxDMZ
Top Splash-n-go Whetstones
#120 amzn.to/2gAEZIN
#320 amzn.to/2gABXEA
#800 amzn.to/2d4esno
#3000 amzn.to/2dmCity
#6000 amzn.to/2hPGsk0
#8000 amzn.to/2vUMB4C
#16,000 amzn.to/2lA9bHu
#30,000 amzn.to/2lA0FIi
Can you add links to forums? I have several stones coming...Shun stone and a Paderno(inexpensive italian company) would be interesting to know if others have an opinion. Thanks
How do you feel your extra equipment?Ebay?
Shun stone? Seems overpriced (that's Shun for you).
You shouldn't be paying out the ass for a medium stone, much less a combination stone. For the price of a Shun stone I could buy 2 good single stones (medium and high) and get more value for my money.
Through work I have several accounts that I have to use and these were what was available to me. Assuming the Shun is a chosera it wasn't a bad deal. The other was relatively cheap along the lines of a king in price. We shall see but who knows until I get them really? Thanks for the advice.
hello, Can I not use the polishing stone after finishing on a sharpening stone(like after chosera 800)? Will the result will be the same if I use leather stop with loaded compound?
you certainly can. as long as your edge is clean, there is no need to hop on a polishing stone, instead of a strop.
look at the edge i got from a brick to a cheap stropping compound on my DIY strop czcams.com/video/aeHfVcr11Rk/video.html
May I ask what is the purpose of the polishing stone anyway? Why do people need to move from a smaller grit to higher grit? Will it make the edge retention better than honing on the strop? As I understand honing process is removing the access materials left on the edges after we sharpen the knife, so I don’t know why there are such a high grit stone like above 8000?
Aesthetics mainly I stop at 3k 99% of the time unless I am trying to get a mirror type finish
Hello, could anyone explain me the different of the Naniwa 8000 sharpening stone/8000Specialty stone/ 8000Professional stone/
8000 Snow white.
Thanx
Sure sorry for the 3 yr delayed answer you prob know by now.
Naniwa ss is a soft high polish resin based stone, kinda not a natural feedback but with time you get the benefit of a great polish.
Pro is more of a natural stone feel and great for knives but they don’t have an 8k in that range anyway but the 10k is great.
The Snow White is beautiful and you can’t go wrong with it in my opinion, a true 8k and a nice feedback and results.
Selling your Chosera 3k? Let me know. Would like to try one. Thx. Andrew
if u like the chosera 3k, you should try the 2k and the 5k they both feel better than the 3k....a little bit softer.
polishing with the 5k is amazing.
the belgian coticule is definetly one that you should try....sure one of the best natural stones.
smokin Joe really i wanna get these stones are they good
(All from naniwa)
220 speciality
400/1000/3000 professional
5000 speciality
8000 snow white
12000 speciality
Stay away from the King if the knife is 62+? Does that mean that I can't sharpen the Shogun X on the Kingstone?
pentrixter you can just takes a little longer
yeah, it'll take twice as long than a chosera or a cerax to sharpen the same knife.
Thanks for the reply! What is the cheapest set of stones or combo-stones for sharpening the Dalstrong shogun series?
Please review Naniwa Traditional stones
Hi RIcky I have the nanawa pro 400 and the 1k and 3k stones as wellll as the king 6k and the kitayani 8k stone looking forward to you comparing the kitiyarma 8k stone to your other 8k stones does nanawa make a stone higher than the 5k stone my supplier in australia only sells stone s up to 5k in nanawaa pro stones
on the way
Agent 58
Yes, Naniwa make #10,000 and #12,000 stones. Shapton make a #30,000 and Suehiro make a #20,000 although both are the same grit, 0.48/0.5 microns respectively. Shapton make a #12,000 stone which is 0.98 microns. Naniwa #10,000 is around 1.47 microns.
Naniwa Superstone (Japan only these days) #10,000 is a great polishing stone. It loads fast and feels weird but the results speak for themselves.
What is available in the US is different than what is sold in Japan, and AU to a degree. We always get Japanese domestic market only products. For example, US sellers have been saying for a few years now that Naniwa Chosera and Superstone have ceased being made and changed into Professional and Specialty Stone. This is completely false as the later two lines are only for people outside Japan; the former two are still sold in Japan.
Get a new supplier as most stores in AU are of a very poor quality as far as range and prices go; unless they are specialists stores who have a larger grit and company range.
In a truth you’re better off buying from Japan on eBay as you will get anything you want and often for much less.
Wolfgang Hedegaard thanks I’ll check on eBay
Where are you filming? The background is very... eh, photogenic...
If we were to buy ONLY 1 stone for a long-term for a soft/med/hard steel, what would it be if your budget was $30? $50? $75? $100? $100+? (Something like that)
Double sided or single stone?
I'd wager your best option if you're looking for a single stone is a 1000/3000 combination stone. Depending on brand, I'd guess you're looking at a minimum of 60 bones for that? I could be very wrong.
Either ways, isn't going to be expensive, because medium stones aren't expensive so £30/$40 would do you just fine. I've got a Kiya 1000 roughly in that price range, and a King 1000 would have been my choice if it was mounted on a base.
My problem with combination stones is that if you don't flatten both sides you start to get...problems, but the same could be said of single stones that's not mounted on a base.
REALLY hard to say. below are my current picks.
800-1200, Chosera 800 splash/go, or cerax 1000.
from there, there are no wrong options. rika 5k is great. shapton glass 8000 is great.
Top Soaking Whetstone
#320 goo.gl/AGa9km
#1000 amzn.to/2cwLxWB
#1000 goo.gl/wZ94xk
#1000 amzn.to/2d0Th9x
#5000 goo.gl/LJfGHv
#5000 amzn.to/2i7wJFk
#1000/6000 amzn.to/2dmxDMZ
Top Splash-n-go Whetstones
#120 amzn.to/2gAEZIN
#320 amzn.to/2gABXEA
#800 amzn.to/2d4esno
#3000 amzn.to/2dmCity
#6000 amzn.to/2hPGsk0
#8000 amzn.to/2vUMB4C
#16,000 amzn.to/2lA9bHu
#30,000 amzn.to/2lA0FIi
I ordered one of these suehiro stones and it came on a base??
they do make some versions that come on a base. which model did you get?
Suehiro Stone; Professional Finishing Whetstone Series; 5000 #5000, Large Size
would love to see you try the DMT plates
james brown I second that!
Do a video of the the kitayama 8000.
Yess @burrfection do a review on the kitayama 8000 😀
He did
Thanks. I'm working my way backwards from March 23, 2018.
have a solid backup schedule is really, really important for filmmakers (especially after you bork up :P ) Have it as thing you always to every day no matter if you film 1min or 5 hours. always back it up on a separate harddrive
i KNOW i KNOW!
Can you try natural stones some time in the future?
hahah. can't afford those !
This man should stream knife sharpening
Next time download a program to restore deleted data from your SD card, it is easy as two clicks if you do not write anything on the card after formating :\ (after you write on it it is not the same story as you write OVER the old datas still on the card, because yeah when you format you most of the time just tell the card it is empty but datas are still physically written on it, unless you do a big format which writes "0" all over the card.
thanks for the info
You can recover deleted items from a SD card....
File restoration/recovery could have helped... There are a lot of apps out there
That sucks that your footage got deleted!
Also you should try the Naniwa diamond 6k stone
haha. it's life.
I have a question regarding this 2 types of metal
VG10 + VG2 steel "Dual Core" that is in the new Shun Hikari
VS
SG2 powder steel that is in the Miyabi Birchwood series
Which is better??
HeyLexGo! SG2 hands down, no competition. I would look at the Miyabi Artisan line in SG2, (the 240 gyutoh is great) warikomi clad, cocobolo pakkawood handles, like 10 dps. I have the whole line and love them.
Herb Toker Wow thanks for the reply yeah I was reading online and this SG2 powder steel are the real thing. Is it true that SG2 does not require frequent sharpening?
HeyLexGo! Not nearly as much as VG10, Miyabi runs their SG2 at 63 HRc +/-, that's already a plus over VG10, but it also has about 2.2% Vanadium and 3ish % Molybdenum which is great. It's mildly more brittle than VG but I've never had problems, I wouldn't ever cut through bones/frozen foods with it though personally.
Just bought three Shapton pro's. 1000, 2000 and 5000 and you hate 'em all I see :(
don't hate them. i just don't love them.
You should do your updates videos seperate. It'll help keep video focused as well us up to date! =) Been wondering why you were missing and now there is a slew of videos.
first comment xd