So I Finally Played the New Byzantium...
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This one took a little longer to make than expected lol
Uhhhh 3k likes for part 2?
almost half way there we might be there by tonight also happy new years quarbit also do your homework
I think it's refreshing seeing really good youtuber struggle with hard nations, like all other mortals. It's usually always cut so that everything goes perfectly
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As someone knowledged in classical history, yes celts which belonged to the same ethnic group as the gauls did conquer Galatia thus it became known as Galatia because of that
WAIT REALLY?? I just made that up on the spot lmao
@@QuarbitGaming Galicia (in Spain), Galata (in Turkey) and Gallia (for Gaul) all probably have the same etymological origin from Gallo-Celtic tribes
I had the same exact thought...the fact he got that right entirely on accident was so funny
@@QuarbitGamingyou didn't. It's likely that you forgot when you learn it
@@safs3098 see also the also Eastern Europe's Galicia: it was the northeast border of Austria-Hungary throughout the 19th century and is today on the border between Poland and Ukraine
24:27 The animist advisor is gained from the Peloponnese Renaissance mission. Gemistos Plethon was a Byzantine scholar that was integral to kickstarting the Renaissance by way of him providing many Greek manuscripts of ancient literature to his Italian counterparts. He's most infamous for secretly rejecting Christianity, it becoming discovered he desired the restoration of the Hellenic religion according to Platonic principles in his "Book of Laws" that was circulated initially solely among his friends.
Hence why they made him "animist," though a bit strange because I'm pretty sure EU4 does have the Hellenic religion in the files, so I'm not sure why they didn't just give that to him.
Upon checking, turns out there isn't a Hellenic religion in the files... The Hellenism in the CK2 to EU4 save game converter DLC evidently was just created for that DLC alone. Shame that they didn't do any easter eggs with Plethon, it was a ripe opportunity to do so.
@@Apotheism he also plays a major role in the Third Odyssey mod (Byzantium exile to the new world) as the leader of the Hellenic faction during the early-game religion disaster. EU4 dev diary said he only exists as an advisor to be an easter egg shoutout for the mod
I mean, animism in EU4 is a category of religions that aren't necessarily genealogically related, and the Hellenic religion was by definition animistic.
45:55 you’re actually exactly correct. That’s 100% what happened.
There were Gauls that had migrated to Anatolia and started living in that area, so the romans started calling it Galatia.
Same thing for the area of Spain called Galacia
Yeah but Spain is less of a shoker because Gauls were spread out in Europe so it's more obvious they would also be in Spain
Also if Quarbit played Imperator Rome with Invictus he would know such things smh
I was surprised to hear him say he made that up. I just always assumed people who played these games were history nerds.
@@ohNojamesNo one can know/remember everything 🤦♂️
I still think rushing the Gallipoli fort at the start, even with the massive debuff, is still the best option. That's what I did in my playthrough and I was able to siege 80% of his european holdings before I had to even think about engaging him.
You should try the island trap strategy. So you conquer epirus and give athena the one province and keep cordu for yourself. Then scutage athens. Ask theodora for mil access bring your troops there and deckare war on ottomans. You then have to weaken the otto fleet so get a navy moral boost advisor and a good admiral. Attack fleet disengage and wait do this until you can destor their fleet. Meanwhile doing that you have a boat in corfu to keep them from going on your island. What you want is them to send ALL of their troops over to corfu then steal province from athens and trap them so you can 100% conquer the ottos
Yeah, I'm not sure whether it is worth to actually assault it with the -75% modifier, but it absolutely should be the first fort you try to get. If you just stack your whole army there (with the mercs, so like 25k or whatever), the Ottoman AI will likely ignore you for dealing with any other war participants or trying to march all around the Black Sea.
Great video! I'm inspired to try Byz again, after receiving several righteous butt-kickings. A couple thoughts...
* Galatia was settled not by Gauls, but related Celts, so close enough. Their descendants are the "foolish Galatians" from the Bible.
* A Syria trick: force their religion *right* before peaceing out the war where you give their cores back; the returned cores will counteract their unhappiness from being forced Orthodox.
45:50 You may have made that up but it is actually true. Gauls indeed lived there at one point
ahh yes, the true Roman way of waging war, hiring mercs to fight it for you
45:48 technically, You were not so wrong - Galatia is named after the celtic tribes that settled there in III century b.c. and it literally means Gaul in Greek 😅
best way to play byzantium is like being the emperor at the time, What the fuck do you mean the orthodox are revolting ?
Love your vids because you actually do decent length campaigns. Keep up the great work!
To ensure Knights won't raid you day 1 use 1 trade ship to protect against pirates in ragusa trade node and 2nd one in constantinople trade node, also set them both to return base during war - rest of fleet is enough for war against Epirus and you can't get raided when there is at least 1 ship protecting against it.
well yeah, that's what a smart person would probably do
Happy new year Quarbs!
Over 1 hour of Quardaddy. Let’s go
those quick tips were insanely INSANELY helpful for me please keep it going
I know in the past once the attacker has 25 percent warscore nations can no longer be called into defend them.
that's likely still the case, but better safe than sorry
A little tip: the palace guards mercs that byz has doesn't take any force limit to hire
This is the quality content that I subscribed for
45:50 you were actually right, there were once Gauls living in Galatia, and that's why it was called that. The Gauls weren't limited to France and northern Italy, their original range stretched from what would now be Austria, through northern Italy and Switzerland, through France, into Iberia and nominally into Britain and Ireland (though the peoples there were Gaelic and more of an admixture of Gallic and others that had been there before). Galetia in Turkey was the result of a tribe of Northeastern Gauls who tried to invade Greece in 279 bce but failed and ended up crossing the Hellespont into Anatolia and moving into the interior where they conquered some locals becoming a warrior aristocracy.
Galatia was actually named after the gauls living there, tho. Cool coincidence that you caught onto that
It's definitely worth just reforming the army to get rid of that debuff, rushing gelibolu definitely works out better over time
Happy new year
50:20 I'm pretty sure there is also a -1000 modifier to call to arms acceptance after the first couple months of war, so when you do the timing right, it shouldn't be an issue
I've also recently started a Byzantium campaign and all I can say is that it's been pretty easy despite the otto buff and byz nerf. All I did was ally Serbia (because mission and to throw under the bus as canon fodder), Hungary (stronk ally) and the knights (mostly to ensure naval supremacy). I'm in the early 1500s and it's been very fun so far so I totally recommend the experience
45:50 "did you know there used to be gauls here that's why it's called Galatia. Just kidding I have no idea I made that up" That's literally true though, the Galatians were a group of Gauls who migrated into Anatolia in the 3rd Century BC and the region is named after them
gonna pretend I knew that all along then
War thunder segway was incredible, i wasnt expecting it and war + war thunder combo knocked my socks off
24:28 - IIRC he’s a reference to the Hellenic Guy from Third Odyssey.
came for guide, stayed for the suprise of a blind playthrough of byzantium.
"There's a fairly decent chance you've just watched me fail 3 or 4 times in a row" - Quarbit foreshadowing the Karaoke stream XD
1071 was the battle of Manzikert, where the byzantines got beat by the Seljuk Turks.
So, fun fact Quarbit, you are right about Galatia having Gauls/Celts living there. They migrated in after the collapse of Alexander the Great's empire, and remained there well into the Roman Empire.
52:18
In my recent Zoroastrian Persia run, I was defender of the Faith for well over 3/4 of my campaign, and had numerous fellow Zoroastrian nations be attacked by non-Zoroastrian nations, yet never got called in to any of them.
I'm wondering if that might be a bug from them recently allowing zoroastrian DotF
@@QuarbitGaming I am a bit late, but the DotF only gets called into wars from nations on the same continent of his capital or that border them.
As an example - until you border Georgia, you wont be called in if they get attacked (when playing Byzantium)
45:45 You actually seem to be right on this btw, it was named after the Gauls from Thrace
I appreciate the historically accurate amount of Byzantine pretender rebels
super big fan of the avatar
you dropped this 👑
45:46 Galatia did actually have an ethnically celtic population for quite some time, so no, you're actually right 😂
41:26 CS into pronoia is a trap. The gimmick with pronoias is that you can do a lot of reconquest which keeps their LD down. CS have no cores to claim so you'd have to deal with +25/50 LD by itself. +65 if you consider that CSs have -15 LD which they'd lose.
Also they have +100% ccr and -20% admin efficiency which makes coring super slow and expensive so there's a chance you have to core that land yourself anyway.
I definitely didn't learn this the hard way or anything.
so like, we can turn them into pronoias when we're done expanding them though, right?
@@QuarbitGaming That's probably the way to go yeah. If CS can at least start coring their provinces then turning it into pronoia doesn't hurt.
You were actually right about galatia. There were celts that migrated into anatolia, established themselves, and now we have galatia.
1071 was when the Seljuk Turks conquered Anatolia from the Byzantine Empire in the Battle of Mazikert.
it's actually fairly overblown, (Byzantine losses were fairly low and nearly no commanders were lost) the real downfall of the Byz to the Seljuk was the civil war of 1072 which placed the Turks in an extremely dominant position in the area.
*pretender rebels are awesome for HRE playthrough* you just need to maintain high prestige to constantly introduce new heirs
they fixed it.
you dont get IA anymore from pretender rebels enforcing
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I'm sure they'd actually be happy to hear that
1071 is the year where the war Malazgirt happened, if I'm not mistaken that allowed Turks to enter Anatolia. So when you drove them back from Anatolia you avenged 1071
...you can also still just siege race them as they siege something in Anatolia. Is how i did it. No need to assault.
Budgetmonk has the most reliable strat, however.
45:51 actually it's called Galatia exactly because it was inhabited by Galatians (aka Gauls) in the 3rd century b.C. lmao you got it right
There were keltic peoples that settled in Galatia
46:15 1071 is the year that Battle of Manzikert happened. As the result; Turkish rule in Anatolia began.
0:21 The best way to play as Byz is to start at ottoman conquer and then nation ruin and then release.
Ditto for Mandate of Heaven stuff as non horde
Part 2 please
I was thinking about taking that island and putting a fort on it. And bait them with it by moth balling it but turn it back on. Cause years ago moth balling forts would make the AI walk in big circles. Between Siberia and Europe.
I did something similar but you don’t even need a fort, just black flag your army in theodoro, let them siege you down, at the same time attack their navy and retreat when you are about to lose a ship until you kill their navy
woop woop
Part 2
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Part 2!!
Galatia is actually named after the book of Galatians from that weird jesus book
hey man don't forget to use the new missionary automation at the bottom of the religion tab, i keep seeing you manually assign them in this vid
I tend not to turn it on because it tries to convert stuff I haven't cored yet. It gets super annoying imo
fair enough, I guess I haven't noticed since I only ever turn it on when i've conquered swathes of land with a different religion, and since it goes in order of least time to convert, the non-core provinces are at the bottom of the list and are usually cored by then
Quarbit play Imperator Rome with invictus mod and you watch the Gauls invade Anatolia.
46:14 Its The date that Seljuks Beat Byzantine and Turks took Anatolia
Lol, Galatia actually DOES come from the greek word for "Gauls", and were a celtic tribe that invaded the are in the 3rd century BC.
The way I had the most success was deving and fighting Naples to get the necessary development to get rid of the bad army malus, then just do the old strategy by rushing down Galipoli. If you raise relations with Genoa/Venice to 50 you reduce the ship building malus to -100% instead of -200%, plus if you click that mission to dev 20 times it reduces the amount of dev you need to fix the army. That plus the relation with genoa buys you enough time to build enough ships. That game I was able to restore the Roman Empire as Byz too(plus I finally got Mare Nostrum) so I'd say that strat worked out.
I think genoa rivalled me in every run I tested
@@QuarbitGaming I might have just gotten lucky with Genoa not rivaling me in any of my tests then?
@@Majora1988usually one or the other rivals you in my experience. I
45:45
Fun fact Quarbit: You're actually not that quite far off really.
Uptill the height of the Roman Empire; The middle of Anatolia/Asia-Minor was largely known to be inhabited by Celtic tribes. And that very province's name, was what they were (or would be) collectively known by/as here; ""The Galatian Celts""
I mean I'd watch a part 2....
If we get a pert 2, it'd be nice to rather than see the usual forming the roman empire route, instead embracing Alexander's legacy and take the Eastern Roman Empire further east. Claim the Mandate of Heaven.
Unless they patched it out since I last played it, I prefer to start as Hungary and just eat Byzantium while going Orthodox so I can reform into them.
Selling titles and manually lowering autonomy is definitely the meta, so stop worrying about people being upset about you doing it, unless you actually needed a certain percentage for some mission.
The way crownland works, if you have lots of estate influence (and everyone does in the first 2 ages) your crownland "equilibrium" point is going to be somewhere around 20%, so actively trying to go over that will severely cripple you and your economy, since every time you take land from wars you'll lose most of your progress instead of gaining more crownland, and you'll be missing out on the money you could've gotten to build up and blob harder.
oh I know it's meta (because it works) but some people like to make their opinion known anyway
46:06 the battle of Manzikert
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Manzikert
Eu4bit
yo quarbit is ardabil series going to be a youtube video as well
it would take like 30 hours to make that into a video so no
@@QuarbitGaming fair enough lmao
Actually that is why it’s called galatia
need moar!
Eepy Quarbs 1 minute into the video oh no 😮
we a little eepy
That animist advisor is the last known ancient greek religion worshiper, that's why he's "animist". He's one of the first greeks from the medieval period to actually start calling themselves greeks, instead of romans. He is a medieval neopagan and ethno-nationalist, essentially. Quite the character.
Ottomans is way too op, they really need to tone them down. They always end up being the bbg in every single game
So you use the morale debuff to purposely lose vattles before taking a ton of casualties and manpower war the ottomans 🤯
hell yeah we love fighting uphill battles
Quasileus
I think Quarsileus has a nicer ring to it
Ryukyu Shinto Emperor of China challenge
not much of a challenge, I already did the three mountains :/
With One Faith? Damn.
Checked it, with Sunni. I was wondering if Shinto would be possible using the monuments. I always get bored by 1550 and conquest of Malaysia😅
@@Dante-mr3rz yup one faith sunni (after finishing the WC as Mayan)
bro doesn't know who gemistos plethon is, DESPITE playing third odyssey 💀
bold to assume I remember character names from any of the mods I play
I just hope we have a Byzantium colonial empire like see greeks sprout in the USA XD
when did you start doing the cringe anime thing in the lower right corner?
almost a year ago now.
I was going to clap back, but instead I hope you find peace and happiness in your life brother
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just ally hungary. They're alliable in many cases
they start with a truce with the ottos and I'm impatient
@@QuarbitGaming fair enough, but the time you get + lack of pressure initially means you can cycle some humiliations to get powers on epirus, Albania, wallachia + dev up a bit. Mission tree for Constantinople goes up to 40 dev req for the province. Then when the war does come its pretty easy to win with hungary's help.
Big fan of EU4. However, not a fan of the little avatar, so much so that i dont want to come back to this channel.
ok
RELEASE BULGARIA AT THE START!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no. 🗿
@@QuarbitGaming wow you replied i love your videos
War Thunder is a grindy af ptw mess.
I feel like all of those games persistantly doing sponsorships are.
@@sizanogreen9900 not wrong. But have actually played WT in the past, so can say for definite, ya know?
@@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740 nope I can not. Therefor "feel".
Korea can do Sino-Korean so sorry but not sorry Byz is the worst 😂
bro I'm talking about groups, korean is still the worst group. you can just add the actual culture to the chinese group
Hey, Im the 4. Viewer this Video ;P Praise me 👐🏻
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@@QuarbitGaming He is the 4. viewer of this Video ;P praise him
unanime urself its cringe
I was going to respond with "unalive urself ur cringe" but instead I hope you find peace and contentment in your life brother.
@@QuarbitGaming it just doesnt feel right seeing you turn into those fake ass vtubers
fake in what way? I show more of my personality now than I ever did before
45:45 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatians_(people) not gauls exactly but celts so very closely related