Nazi Flare Collection and an MP44 Sturmgewehr!
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2020
- In this video, we show you a collection of Rare Nazi Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe flare pistols, original ammo crates, and an original fully auto MP44 sturmgewehr!
- Krátké a kreslené filmy
Top says "Leucht- und Signalmunition 500 Patronen Hülsenlänge 83mm" which translates into "flare and signal ammunition 500 rounds case length 83mm".
Inside says "500 (crossed out to 60) flare rounds" with an order number from "Luft" (I guess Luftwaffe or airforce), a lot number (9), a production date in december 1939 and a hint to use them until january 31st 1946.
Thanks for the help. Are in Germany?
@@LegacyCollectibles yes I'm a 28 yearnold engineer from Germany and I just have to say I love your videos!
A hint to use them until January 1946? Sounds like a use by date, that explains why they didn’t go off. 😆
@@JohnMcMahon. yes thats what I meant. Didnt find the correct word for it ;) something like best before....
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The quality of the leather after all these years is astonishing.
That is because (in the case of the leather flare holster) it is a commonly sold reproduction made in India...really. Check Ebay ;)
Destroy an attic found MP44, never, I would become an instant felon.
YOU are so cool!! that you tried the flares ,AND tried till you got one to fire !! You were reading all our minds about wanting you to try to fire one !! It like being a kid and wanting the adults to give in and try the flares !!THANKS!!
Thanks. My kids dont think Im cool.
@@LegacyCollectibles SO ! WHAT DO THEY KNOW .."REALLY" !
@@LegacyCollectibles We do!
HEY !! any chance you could put new primers in them ,see if they fire ?/
My neighbor in Germany had one of those large flare guns. He would fire it on New Years.
That’s unlawful and would make him a felon in Germany. Ridiculous but true...
There's nothing like hearing you laugh (giggle) out in the dark as you try to shoot a flare up into the air.
Like a little school girl
It's great you show us these. I couldn't care less if you dont know every minutiae of detail because your enthusiasm makes up for it. Top stuff.
Don't feel too badly there Tom, someone years ago gave me what I thought was a treasure trove of .45 Auto ammo. After many duds, I noticed the date stamped on the rear of the shell, 1939!! Hell, I was born in 1945 and I don't work too well either.
When I was 17 .I found out Sturmgewehr in the forest with my uncle by metal detector .. We was searching for relics and gold ,and this pop up after cleaning the soil not even deep . I was so happy about that ,special we found two full magazine next to full like it new. The MP 44 was bit corrosion ,and the wood in the end was eat up by nature , But who cares ,We took it home and cleaned ,I cannot even sleep the day and watching all night this assault rifle next to me. Now I am 46 and you telling me ,its cost 30 000$ ? people are greed ,all the prices on guns are crazy .
In the United States, we cannot as individuals own machine guns manufactured after 1986, so we have a limited collection of then that were registered prior to that year, and the price increases over time far beyond the materials and manufacturing involved just because of the rarity.
Illegal ist scheißegal haha, ich mein wer würde das nicht behalten
Gun?
What gun?
@@user-kf6nc5jv3l Jawohl !!!
When I was a 12 year old boy, I saw that gun in a book and I fell in love with it. It took me 40 years to get a MP44, I fullfilled a dream and it is a delight to shoot with it.
Very sporting of you to shoot those old flare cartridges! Had a lot of fun watching this episode. Thanks
You are a riot. Love watching your videos. Thanks.
Leucht und Signal Munition.
500 Patronen Hülsenlänge(?) 83 millimeter
Yes that's flare gun ammo.
"Lieferfima" is the delivery company
"Deichmann" the name of the company (they sell shoes nowadays lol no idea if its the same company)
and i think below that is the place from where it got shipped i read it as "Velten Mark" thats in Brandenburg
the dummy round says "Light round yellow"
the second box says "airtight" on it
the first round that you attempt to fire is a smoke round (and i guess the others are too)
Thanks for the vid Tom. Sweet items and a real joy to see to learn about.
I love these videos and how excited you get about this stuff. It’s nice to see others who are as well! I wish I could buy a T-shirt!
Thanks for showing all these great things from the war.🇳🇱👍🏻🇺🇸
"Star of David" (Seal of Solomon)
It's just a hexagram that was in common use long before the NAtsoNiceguiz took power.
It was used in heraldry and vexillology and just called a star in Germany. In English and French heraldry it's called the "mullet of six points." In Albania it's a sixagram. Then there's the Star of Damascus found on swords to denote quality of the steel that came out of Damascus... It's also found in other religions like Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, etc.
Was in Germany sometimes also used by brewers guilds.
I enjoy your in-depth knowledge and presentations, thank you for sharing your appreciation and knowledge.
Love your videos
Fantastic collection! Thanks for sharing.👍🏻
Always informative and well done!
Very Beautiful example of fine
Mp44 .
Thanks for Sharing Tom !!!!!!!
great video as usual
Outstanding video. Thank you.
I'm glad I watched till the end, I wasn't expecting you to actually fire one. They expired 30 april 1945 the exact same day Hitler shot himself. What an irony.
Great piece of trivia. Wish I had remembered that on camera!
Tom if I could afford it I would buy that Sturmgewehr! I remember seeing the photo of a German soldier with one in the Battle of the Bulge when I was a kid! I thought even then what a cool weapon! Thanks for posting such cool content!
Yes, you can ship it directly to a C&R license holder, but ONLY after the Form 4 for transfer of an NFA item to the individual (or trust) has been approved by the ATF, and ONLY if allowed by the purchaser's state laws covering NFA items. I know you called out the lengthy background check process, but the only difference the C&R license makes is that you don't have to find a local NFA dealer and file a Form 3 for the dealer transfer BEFORE filing the Form 4 for transfer to the purchaser. All applicable state laws apply, and just having a C&R license and an approved Form 4 does not make it legal to own a machine gun in every state, including mine. I wish it were that simple.
flairs are now required in boats now and those look so muck better then the walmart plastic one
you do a great job, we all learn and enjoy
another great video from you.the flares you tried to fire is smoke ,for use in daylight . and they are not the correct flares fore the bakelite box. the single star flares fore the box is longer .i collect this stuff and have a good collection of flares and other things .
25:44 "Now that's a Nature Preserve"... Tom shoots and kills was once thought extinct, but actually last Dodo bird!
The condition of those bags and holsters are amazing. They look as if they were manufactured yesterday!
If I win the powerball I will certainly put this type of stuff in my week-one shopping list
I appreciate your sharing your knowledge with us, and don’t worry about critics. I loved the video.
Awesome video thanks brother keep it up
The STG 44 is to many the holy grail of WW2 german small arms collectables , that and the FG42 of course
I wish i had 50,000$ a C&R license and an approved NFA form 3 letter
So nice !
Twenty years ago a coworker brought his dad`s bring back flare pistol and a sack of flares with him when I invited him to go shoot a few rocks out in the Mojave. The flares were notched on the rims according to the color flare so you could tell the color in the dark.
I fired off three of them before we became concerned the local U.S. NAVY weapons center might send out someone to check us out.
They were all sure fire, maybe because they had lived in the desert for sixty years or so......
The condition of the bags etc were incredible. They must have been stored in a controlled area.
Well done for trying them out.
Great video! Many thanks,,,,
Great video! I bought several boxes of Czech 26.5mm flares, and I thought I got a deal at less than $15.00 a pop! Those German flares with the aluminum cases are high quality, like most things WWII German-John in Texas
thanks for the effort awesome video!
Thanks for sharing with this great stuff 😘🙄🤗🤔😍🤩
I'm still can't belive that I saw this and stuff could be in that great condition...
Another great video. Thank you :-)
But I wanted to add a little something to the video. The cartridge that you wanted to fire at the end was a smoke trail cartridge, so a signal for the day. It actually didn't belong in the box with flares.
And the stamp with the eagle at 11:45 am is not from WWII, but from West Germany after 1945. This bag was probably used by the "Bundeswehr".
Greetings from Germany
Red flare = international distress signal, when ever I've seen one I've called the emergency services LOL
Glad it did not go off. My neighbors would have called the police
@@LegacyCollectibles Rauch...those were red smoke cartridges anyway...you would have been disappointed had they gone off at night
@@LegacyCollectibles Those flares did fire off, but they were black flares for use during the daytime /joking. Thanks for the video!
Cool Stuff!
This is a really cool channel.
Wow, I had the Erma 22 M1 look alike, bought in 1967. Bloody hopeless , extraction was totally hit and miss , mainly miss. I should have bought a real 30cal one or a brand new Jungle Carbine in grease for $15. At the time Guns and Ammo magazine had tiny little b&w ads for war surplus weapons, I remember MP44 advertised for $15! Pity that I was a kid in my teens at the time.
The condition that these items are in is nothing short of phenomenal .
Tremendous video
The ending of this video is amazing lol
To my knowledge in Germany these flare guns are legal to buy/possess only by collectors with a special permission.
I was really wanting the flares to go off dang it lol
Curios and relics, kinda like me. Fun vid.
Fantastic vídeo!!! BR
I like that MP44!
C&R are subject to state laws, just holding a C&R isnt sufficient if your state doesnt allow transfers on C&R
That is fucking stunning, if I had the money that STG44 would be mine !!!!
Long over due of this channel a weapon of this quality !
I like those crates
Thanks!!!
Thanks for showing the MP44 Sturmgewehr an all of the Flare guns , Sir !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is the silver double made from stainless? Also, thats a beautiful StG 44.
Impressionante a qualidade de todas as peças 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Your neighborhood was real quiet for being Independence Day, nature preserve or not, anyway thanks for sharing :)
Navy use of flares was heavy relied on for stealth communication. You couldn’t intercept a flare signal unless you can physically see it.
lovely firearm
The six pointed star is not strictly speaking a star of David. It's an old symbol the interlocking bars representing strength. It was used by a lot of weapons manufacturers and similar metalworkers for a long time. That is however still a little ironic.
Sorry, but I want to slap the man who let his wife use the ammo box as a planter! 🤬🤦♂️😂
I really wanted to see the flare.....
Collectors like their cartridges unfired...plus it could detonate, instead of shooting a flare....as the cordite can breakdown into its base components, nitroglycerine, petroleum grease, etc
Otherwise, an informative video!
Excellent video God bless America 🇺🇸 double barreled flare pistol cool Destroy one of those beautiful guns never
Although a fascinating and storied firearm, the STG 44's ammo is pretty esoteric. It's pricey when you can find it and I met one man who loaded his own 8mm Kurz for his STG-44-John in Texas
Here in germany you find this some times in basements and throw it away. Next time better save them. How many dollar per round ?
The box on the left is an airtight cartridge box...For 5 300 rd battle packs...1500 rds. of 8mm Mauser with lacquered steel cases. The manufacture date for the box will be on the side near the bottom. Not a Star of David on the flares, too. that means star flare. Re: Your earlier video...The 'Nicht Werfen' (Roughly translated Do Not Drop) held fuses for 88mm AAA rounds. There are actually lots of both kinds of boxes around because they were useful after the war. Also, If these were used to mail things home they would have an address on them...You probably shouldn't guess about this stuff...;)
I found about 20 of theese german flare rounds with my metal detector here in Croatia. After 70+ years in the ground 9/10 I fired still works, the ones that I found are made of steel and they are lacquered wery tick.
13:49 It is (not sure "ironic" is the word I would use)...on a first cylindrical container marked September of 1941 Sternsignalpatronen (which - if I am not mistaken - translated as Stern's signal rounds/ammunition) and other boxes have dates of 1944(?) and have a Magen David (shield of David) aka Star of David on them. Stern is a very common Jewish surname. Which leads me to think - company that used to belong to jewish businessman - was "nationalized".
I have no knowledge about flaregun ammunition. But ,Stern' is in english ,star' , so i think it simply describes a special type of flaregun cartridge which was called so in those days.
9:35
Yeah, you slaughtered it
How many STG 44's are in the US
Maybe changing the primer with shotgun primer will work
Could have been a light hammer strike try another flair pistol .hit the same rounds again
The german word is Zug ( singular)/ Züge ( plural) , in this context it means the rifling grooves. But attention: Zug/ Züge can also mean Train/ Trains in railway context, and in Switzerland there is a canton with the name Zug. So, please no confusion ;-)
Love the video. Keep it up. Never mind the trolls. Trolls just gotta troll.
In Holland the flarepistol is legaal bit the ammo not 😢
18:10 The official designation is actually 8mm Kurz (or 7.92x33mm Kurz) but everyone will know what you're referring to. ;-)
These are fun to shoot
You'd need to time travel back to 1945 for those flare cartridges to work!
I understand the rebels thought these were a form of AK47:
Army captures 5000 STG44s | Armory Blog
www.armoryblog.com/.../free-syrian-army-captures-5000-stg44s
Aug 11, 2012 · Probably captured by the Soviets and sold to their Middle East allies in the early 1950s. American Taxpayer February 28, 2016 at 5:44 am The STG44 is a quality battle rifle. It’s stronger than an AK and more accurate than an AR but it weighs almost as much as both of them put together.
Why do the Bakelite cases have the Star of David on them??
8:29 looks from here as if it has grooves in the barrels?
Hello nice video👍🏻
Is this flare ammo chest for sale? Im really interested in.
Best greetings from austria
10:05 wouldn't that flare/grenade launcher be classed as a destructive device, because of bore size and rifling?
Flare guns can be mailed to your house. I think you have to state you’re over 18. I bought a few around 20 years ago. Czech and Polish Cold War era ones were pretty inexpensive. Flares are still out there.
Thank you!!!
I'm curios if there is a modern manufacturer that can supply flare rounds for these vintage pistols?
I thing it is all same caliber. Here in germany called Kaliber 4 means 26,5 mm Cardridge. You can buy it today and fire from this old signal pistols. Different types you can shoot up to 300 Meters with parachutes and 30 sec flame. But are carefully when you shoot this flare pistols, they are very kicks your hand hard. Imshot it one time and have enough.
At least you tried. Maybe someone will send you some live rounds to fire on new years eve. Even if they are duds, it's better than Ryan Seacrest. LOL!!
It means "Leucht und Signalmunition" L..u.S. Munition Hülsenlänge 83mm
I’m interested in a WW2 M42 jump jacket can you help me locate one?
ধন্যবাদ...
thanks
StG..the rifle design Kalashnikov ripped off.
The Eagle is the Weimarer Repuplik Eagle-the same as today again....
15:02 The only thing you came here for. You're welcome.
cool!