Alice 1958 - 360 VR Ride-Through
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2020
- Here is the final piece of the Alice 1958 project, a complete 360 Ride-Through all ready to experience on your computer, mobile device, or best of all on your VR headset.
This represents our ultimate goal to deliver an extinct Disneyland attraction that you could actually ride again. Thanks to everyone who followed us along while we worked together to research and recreate as best we could this dark ride that risked being lost to memory.
Creators - Don Carson, Daniel Rover Singer, Karen Thompson, Heidi Hirsch - Zábava
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I've always wished there was a video game or virtual experience where we can explore Disneyland thru the years and learn about the park's history and experience it's attractions from back then.
Me too!
Definitely check out Defunctland! There’s currently one VR demo available
@@Booksds I definetly heard about Defunctland's VR! I forgot attraction they they made. I think it was Magic Kingdom's 2000 leagues sub ride.
@@redzrobinz3135 y³3r
Me three!
It’s an honor to be able to live in a time where people can recreate these classic attractions virtually! This recreation is absolutely incredible!
Andrew, I could not agree more. I do wish more people were doing this but I think they will over time. I feel the same way for the creation of historical and architectural environments. What would it be like to visit a virtual MOMA (NYC) where you could visit every exhibit they have presented since the late 1800's? They already offer photos of these exhibits on their website today, it would only take a small team and a modest capital investment to transform these into virtual, visit-able places. The possibilities are endless.
Disney would make a KILLING if they had virtual recreations of the original park for fans to view. I've always always wanted to experience it as it was before. Thank you for this invaluable work in preserving the park as it was.
Just as I remember it. The Upside Down was cooler than people think.
I’m glad I didn’t grow up with this version, I was a scaredy-cat as a little kid
It really does bring back memories. I love the head of the caterpillar on the car.
Loved that ride more than any other Fantasyland ride...and only at Disneyland Anaheim....the only thing I did not hear was the sound of the pneumatic pump as the "umbrella Bird's" body lowered...as I watched...I could literally recall the smell of the air in there...thanks for sharing.
If you don’t mind me asking, did the owl’s neck actually extend toward the ride cars in the ride?
@@sealy1 Yes.
@@LadyMissCoppertone oh wow.
Good gravy, this is absolutely PHENOMENAL!!! Ever since I found out about this version of the ride, I've always wanted to see it in its entirety, and you and your team captured it beautifully based on what I've read in descriptions. Thank you all so much for putting together this wonderfully insane blast from the past!
dang, a virtual reconstruction of a virtual reconstruction, wild.
My only "difference" of opinion is that, as I remember it back in the 1960s, when you went past the flowers, the choral version of "Golden Afternoon" was playing. Here you have the instrumental version - which may have been the case back in 1958. And I always wondered what was up with the "Upside Down Room" since there wasn't one in the movie - but - oh - wait - there was an "Upside Down" moment: when Alice reaches the bottom of the rabbit hole, SHE is upside down (her feet held up by a curtain rod) and she sees the White Rabbit running off upside down. Then she realizes her feet are stuck in the curtain rod and rights herself up. I guess ride designer Claude Coats thought that would be a fun moment to exaggerate.
Your memory of the Golden Afternoon song is correct; almost all of the audio reels used in the original ride save for Alice's narrations were ripped straight from the film, and Golden Afternoon was no exception. Furthermore, the instrumental arrangement of Golden Afternoon used for this video was recorded for the 1984 Alice ride.
You can hear an actual audio recording of the original ride from 1971 on several in-progress ride-through videos on this channel if you really want your memory jogged.
Wow, that's almost completely different from the version I grew up with. Thank you for documenting this history.
I always finding the old version of Alice ride on the internet. This is amazing! ❤
I do remember all the screams at the end from when I was a kid.
Did they scare you? I heard they sounded really loud through the speakers.
can you build the original verion of snow white and her adventures and peter pan flight at disneyland
YES!!!...there's actually a TON of reference pictures for both original attractions out there. I found ones for Peter Pan through old articles in Disney's "E" ticket magazine that gives you an idea on how some of the original scenes looked. This in itself is amazing because I remember as a child growing up in the mid-70's in L.A. I do remember the Upside down room and the Mad Hatter sequences as they were, very trippy. Very well done Don Carson, thank you so much.
@@CC007 I am plan on doing a Virtual of the Disneyland in 1955 I am doing a ton of research
First time I’m seeing the final product. Takes me back. I remember freaking out at age three from the horns and Cheshire dropping down.
Quick, somebody share this video with Mark from Yesterworld! As someone who previously talked the ride’s 1958 - 1983 iteration in an episode about the ride itself, he’d *love* this!
Wow. Completely different than what is currently at the park.
This is incredible. Thank you for allowing those of us who came later to experience this attraction in such a cool way!
So this is what the original Alice In Wonderland ride looked like when it first opened to the public.
Thank you for being able to finally experience this ride again.... Fantastic job.
Wow scary and amazing. I remember Disney back when it was good
The two American parks haven't necessarily been "good" since the 1990s, when many of the old attractions were removed and the IP garbage really starting rolling in. How old are you, exactly?
Thank you! I remember all those moments like it was yesterday, especially the Chesire Cat's head in the Upside Down room and the twirling tea stream at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party. I also remember coming down out of the ride and seeing those doors with the tracks running into them - but never going in whatever room was there. I'm guessing it was where they repaired the Caterpillar cars - and then later after the 80s renovation, they set it up as part of the ride.
That was such a fun flashback
Think I prefer it in real life better. I loved the neon colors of this ride. A favorite for sure
Very impressive for 1958
Kudos to all who worked on this ambitious project! The end result is truly wonderful, and it really brings back fond, vivid memories from my childhood! As a small child, on my very first visit, I remember being absolutely terrified during that initial, twisting plunge into darkness. I loved the "Upside-down Room", and I'm really sorry that it's absent in the current version. And, I loved (and sorely miss) the original, narrow leaf ramp that takes you back down to ground level after you exit the show building. A couple of detail differences in the original ride that I distinctly recall, however: 1) In the "Upside-down Room", there was an "upside-down" flame effect in the fireplace created by a fan playing on orange and yellow fabric "flames". 2) After you crashed through the teapot, the next room was pitch black for a very brief moment. Suddenly, the "explosion" graphics were illuminated by strong strobe flashes (maybe from behind?), accompanied by thunderous sounds. I always referred to that segment as the "Lightning Room", and I could never find any meaning or correlation between it and the story as told in the animated film.
This virtual model unfortunately isn't fixed with a very advanced lighting engine, which is something that happened to take a toll on the starburst graphics that you pointed out in particular. All of the scenes here also have a warm, incandescent look due to a lack of an ultraviolet lighting effect as well.
What a wonderful memory for the original attraction. You caught us, we scrimped on both the fireplace flame effect and the strobe effect, good catch!
Don Carson I just hope that you didn't think of my comment as a criticism of your work, because I think that you all did an absolutely fantastic job on this! I just wanted to add in my additional memories of the ride, which has always been one of my favorite attractions in the park. I've been watching your video a lot... having fun exploring all different angles and viewpoints.
Anything else you remember? Or is that all?
Sorry I’m just interested in hearing more about this ride lol
Awesome I totally flashed back I remember this version!
We moved away from SoCal a few years ago for work so we haven't been able to return to Disneyland in a long time, plus with the Pandemic happening it's made it more of a challenge. We are planning a move back next year when the Pandemic, hopefully, cools down. In the meantime, this made me extremely happy with memories of Disneyland and one of my favorite attractions. Thank you for that bit of joy.
This is wonderful, pretty much as I remember it. I remember always putting my fingers in my ears when we got to the doors!
Could you do both tracks from Walt Disney World's Mr. Toad's Wild Ride?
This is Fantastic Don!
Don, this is fantastic and I clicked to watch the video before I realized it was you who'd posted it! We definitely needed this in There. 😁
Beautiful job! Loved it! Had my VR headset on and it brought back memories of when I was a kid.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
This is so well done
Great Work! Amazing to watch the progress as it came together!
Thanks for making this! And thanks Mousetalgia for helping us find it!
Absolutely Brilliant! Well done!
Can you do Fantasyland dark rides from 1955? You know like Snow White, Peter Pan and Mr. Toad?
Walt Disney would be proud.
This is really super cool. Amazing job man
this is incredible!!!! thank you for making it !!!!
Fantastic job with this, I would be willing to contribute to a Patreon or something like that if it means you'll do more old Disney attractions.
What a treat! Thank you!!!!
THIS IS AMAZING!!! :D
So awesome!
OMG this is amazing!!! Great work!!
This is incredible, you did a great job
2:39
That's from the Goofy cartoon "Hello Aloha"
Makes me wonder where the other screams are from
This is truly AMAZING! You people have done a wonderful job on this. Have you made any more 360 Disneyland attractions? Thank you for all your loving work. :)
I haven't. This was a COVID project which allowed my friends and I to pour a lot of love into the Alice recreation. This doesn't mean other attractions couldn't be recreated this way. It only takes time and enough documentation to make the attraction as accurate as possible.
wow, how different it is now.
I now understand why everyone said it was scary… not like I didn’t before. The sheer size of the props and sets was enough, I’m very glad with the version we have now… why did somebody think the Cheshire Cat laughing maniacally was a good idea, let alone including a full on jump scare?
(Edit) Claude Coats, he thought it was a good idea. Of course it was him.
I am no expert but I imagine that the first dark rides, pretty much all of them, were designed in a time when traditional amusement park and carnival rides were more spook houses. The more placid and imaginative attractions came later while these first black light experiences did have jump scare moments and surreal juxtapositions of their various elements. This original Alice ride has all that for sure. Perhaps why it was updated? I agree, the new version is my favorite but I love the ability to go back in time and see historical recreations of older attractions that are now gone. I hope more will come in the future.
@@DJCarsonCreative ohhhhhh.
Yea it’s creepy for suuure the Cheshire Cat part would’ve made me scream as a kid
That was a nice surprise.
This is absolutely incredible! It really gives a sense of what dark rides were like at that time! May I ask where you found the soundtrack? I've been looking for it for years!
It makes me so happy that you think so! The soundtrack was pieced together from a variety of sources on the internet and through some friends who collect such things. My advice is you pull the audio from my video through a 3rd party service, you will effectively be getting the entire soundtrack I put together.
Wonderful
Tony Baxter said he's impressed
Watch this during 2021
Good show.
Okay, this is way cool.
OH I love it
Amazing recreation, i still hate the old ending which is just strobe lights, signs and 4 screaming doors, because there’s no Queen of Hearts garden.
One thing the original ride actually did better than the current version was handling the rider's point of view. The 1958 ride had Alice narrating each scene in past tense, while she herself was nowhere to be seen; this particular arrangement made it pretty apparent that the riders themselves were supposed to assume the role of Alice. The current ride is totally inconsistent, as it treats riders as if they were Alice _for the most part,_ but sometimes throws in an Alice figure seemingly for no reason.
Maybe the original ride could be interpreted as an older Alice telling you about her experience in Wonderland as you experience it for yourself.
@@jacoblakins6628 That's how I've always seen it, especially since Katheryn Beaumont's voice circa 1958 was simply a lot younger than it was by 1984.
What program did you use to make this?
im traumititized
This is absolutely amazing! You should do more of these for the rest of the Fantasyland attractions from 55
Thanks! I’d love to but I don’t have the reference resources I did for this project, sadly.
@@DJCarsonCreativeit’d be cool if you could somehow do the ‘55 Mr. Toad.
This is so cool👩🏼🎩🎂🐇😊!!
It's weird hearing the screams at the end after hearing how "terrifying" they were from other people.
Those are the screams of Goofy (If you think I’m making this up, no I didn’t)
As much as I love this ride, I always thought the extra short indoor portion with the cat and the tea party was a bit odd after going outside.
I didn't work on the 1984 refresh of the Alice attraction but I believe one of the goals of New Fantasyland was to plus each of the attractions and that included adding length to the track and extra show elements. For Alice that included taking a bite out of the Toad show building which happened to be located at the lower end of the exterior ramp. I have always enjoyed it but light leaks were always going to be a challenge for this area. Still, more show is always good in my book.
@@DJCarsonCreative agreed
Its kinda creepy how theres rarely any media from this era of the ride; only a few images and tidbits of audio.
That is true but imagine back then we didn't have CZcams or low light digital cameras. The only images tend to be from marketing and home movies were very dark and usually out of focus. This is proof that these attractions CAN be fairly easily recreated but you do need source material to make sure they are as accurate as possible.
@@DJCarsonCreativeyah that's true. I forget cameras weren't too common back then, and it was really expensive to even have one for personal use.
Far Out!!
is the audio legitimately from an old recording?
This video uses a lot of the raw sound effects from the old ride, but an actual, fuzzy ride-through recording from 1971 can be heard in several in-progress videos on this channel, such as this one: czcams.com/video/Kvw8GpXeZ-Y/video.html
Haven’t seen this since the late 1970s
If you don't mind telling me, where exactly did you lads even find all that original audio to begin with, aside from what was just recycled from the film? I had thought for sure Disney would have thrown it out way back in 1982 when the original Alice ride was gutted.
There are pockets of audiophiles out there that have collected these clips over the years. When I started posting the process images and video on Instagram many of these came out of the woodwork. The rest we needed to strip out of the film which amazingly the original ride did a lot as well, including the Cheshire Cat laugh.
@@DJCarsonCreative Do you happen to have a little archive of all those original bits and pieces of audio produced for the ride as heard in this video? I would love to attempt my very own audio re-creation of the 1958 Alice.
I've been listening to that 1971 recording constantly since I discovered it along with this astonishing project. I had never heard any real audio from the pre-1983 Fantasyland dark rides prior, so it's a real treat.
If you don’t mind me asking, where’s the Cheshire Cat singing in the Tulgey Wood? Also, did the Owl’s head really go toward the guests? I’m just interested in this version of the ride all of the sudden.
The Cheshire Cat never physically appeared in the Tulgey Wood scene; it was just his voice. And the owl's head most likely rose upward rather than jutting forward, revealing a plywood set of accordion bellows underneath.
I read on one of your Instagram posts from a while back that you weren't familiar with issue #31 of _The "E" Ticket_ magazine, which is the issue that details the original Alice ride. If you ever decide to do revisions to this virtual model, I would highly recommend reading that issue if you haven't already, as it contains a full ride-through description and various technical details that would ultimately help in creating a model that's even more accurate to how the attraction was in real life than even the current version. I've scanned the entire section on Alice, so if you're interested I can upload the pages somewhere.
Oh, that would have been really helpful! We had some wonderful folks come to help us with some of the details but no the "E" Ticket issue you refer to. I would definitely love to see that if you are willing to share it! You can DM me via Instagram and I can send you my email. Many thanks!
@@DJCarsonCreative I actually posted the entire thing here a while back: jumpshare.com/b/PP3dIoSqe3YEbWS43aV5 I'm honestly surprised that only a select handful of "E" Ticket issues are available online, seeing as how old the magazine is.
@@goatprince1 What a wonderful resource and definitely some images we didn't have while working on our project. I am just happy this is out there!
@@DJCarsonCreative Also, if you're interested in scans of each individual photo from the issue, I have those available as well: jumpshare.com/b/A2SoHoq9yotrV9SpVQ9S
These have better color than the full-page scans, and the photos bridging between pages don't have details missing in the center.
Many thanks! :)
The Tea Party scene is incorrect. The hatter was not pouring Tea; him and March Hair pop out with scarey faces and scream that you are rude and tell you to move down. Before you go through the explosions and get kicked outside. Your video is the second version of the ride made after Walt died. There have been four versions. The third version added the Queen of Hearts and caterpillar. The fourth version added cartoon clips of Alice.
You are absolutely right, I took creative license and included the second, friendlier version of the Hatter and Hare.
Then maybe you should title it 1960s version or which ever date it was changed.
Where is the part where the mad hatter and rabbit say “very very rude!”
I believe that was in the very first version. We took artistic license and replaced the hatter and March hare with the second less scary (rude) versions.
I think the movie and the ride are Both weird and insane the story and tune itself i cant figure this out like whats the point 😕🤔
What happens to the Queen of Hearts?
She didn't appear until the 1983/84 rehab of the attraction. The dark room with the explosions and the pointing signs is where the Queen is now, and I believe she also too up space that was originally a maintenance area in that scene as well.
Actually this would be the 60s version as the one that opened had the mad hatter and March hare screaming at you
This seems to be a weirdly common misconception, but the repeated yells of "move down" you hear in this video are the very same reels that were used for the Hatter and Hare all the way back in 1958. It was a lot louder in real life, but I can assure you it's the original audio from the fifties.
@@goatprince1 I was referring to the visuals here’s a photo of what I’m referring to forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/original-alice-in-wonderland-ride.864119/
@@castle3267 Okay, I see now. The original pop-up flats were replaced with the full-body figures in 1961, so technically the "1958" label for this virtual model is a misnomer.
i think don's recreation is a mesh of both versions of the ride which closely resemble the 60s toned down version. Doormouse's face here uses the 1958 version not the toned down one.
what game is this? iwant to ride this ride
This isn't a game, just a SketchUp/Blender creation.
@@goatprince1 how do i download this?
@@disneylover3434 I don't think he provided a link, although I don't really see why you would want to download it to begin with seeing as you can already view a full ride-through in 360 degrees.
Mousestalgia brought me here.
Weird how the queen of hearts is completely omitted from this version of the ride