Are the A's prepared for their move to Sacramento? | Foul Territory
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- With uncertainty attached to both the quality and quantity of player accommodations in Sacramento, the guys discuss on #FTLive how the MLBPA can step in and prevent the next few years from being a disaster.
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The ongoing A’s saga is the plot of Major League if the owner got her way
100%
And the sad part about this too, is the worthless commissioner Manford has allowed this train wreck to happen for 3 seasons now. He should have told FIsher after last season, if your not in to win, them sell the team to someone who will put a competitive product on the field.
Par for the course for Rob “do nothing” Manfred.
A great reporting, guys! Thank you for the insight. And to add to that, from a fan's perspective, the A's management strategy, while effective on paper, carries a certain emotional weight for those of us who follow the team closely. Watching key players develop, only to be traded away, feels like a recurring theme that's hard to get used to, no matter how many times it happens. Again great reporting..no big leaguer wants to play at AAA park during the season.
Rob MANFRAUD doing what he does best, the worst
Yep Rob is just a ventriloquist dummy for the billionaire owners who control the league. They play cities off each other to see which is dumb enough to build them the most expensive stadium. It's a total clown show all in the service of our .0001% overlords.
Manford wants the A’s to move. He always did. He literally gave Fisher the playbook on the DL
The Blue Jays situation was different because the Team was not able to play games at their home Ball Park due to Canada's travel restrictions. This move is entirely the decision of their Ownership Team.
The Casey Pratt interview was amazing
It’s the plot to Major League 3
Indians won games.
They’re not even going to try and get good players on FA deals while in SAC. They never tried to under his ownership in OAK either.
Why sign free agents when you can watch Aaron judge for free anyway.
Manfred has set baseball back more then any commissioner in history. How do you allow a billionaire owner to intentionally destroy a storied franchise like the Oakland A's? This is a huge embarrassment to the game! You think Vegas will change this? Fisher has NO intention of fielding a winning team, let alone a higher playroll team. It's almost like they just want in Vegas to use it as a tourist attraction and the heck with the poor Nevada taxpayers that will be footing the bill to support Fisher and his stadium......disgusting is an understatement!
John fisher never wanted to be in Oakland. They bought half of the coliseum because they claimed it will certify the A’s staying in Oakland. For years they tried in San Jose, Fremont, Laney college, and towards the end Howard terminal. The city was ready to make the deal and they just backed out. Why? Because first of all, they didn’t want to stay in Oakland in the first place and secondly, they don’t have the money to build Howard terminal. Also, when Howard terminal was in the works, he wanted the infrastructure around the ball park which will be more money and the city had to cover that part of the deal. So the city got the money through grants to cover there end of the deal. In Vegas, they don’t even have infrastructure around it, other then the hotel. Fisher was fishing for a handout and he got it in Vegas and Sacramento.
It is up to the city to provide sufficient water and sewer mains to the Howard Terminal site that doesn't have it. While a developer will connect to a city's mains from his property, a developer does not build the city's mains under city PROPERTY for blocks, a half mile, a mile, or more. Apparently the city of Oakland does not the financial resources to upgrade city infrastructure anywhere in the city. No wonder there is NO development of low rise or high rise apartments for the homeless. No wonder why they are living in tents on city easement and sidewalks without water mains or sewers... I am surprised there isn't a dysentery outbreak in Oakland...
@@ronclark9724 How does Fisher's ding dong taste? I'm guessing like Gap jeans and caviar.
@@diamondlion47 How does Casey’s taste? Maybe you guys should walk up and down the Oakland streets begging for help.
@@ronclark9724hey Clark..get a life.
"The MLB is acting monopolistic" absolutely, this who moving issue with the A's absolutely displays why the MLBs anti-trust exemption is such an issue!!!
The anti-trust exemption elimination isn't going to keep the A's or any other team in any other sport from relocating whenever the owner chooses to do so. NFL, NBA, and NHL teams have relocated in the past and will in the future without a anti-trust exemption... PERIOD...
@@ronclark9724 Sure they have, why wouldn't they, but they wouldn't be allowed to takeover a minor league field, in MLB they can and did remember? That exemption was why they could just take over, what's theirs' is ours'. Independent had their League just taken away, you play by _Our_ rules or don't play at all.
edit; So owners of AA or even AAA parks who lost their status can and are starting up their own leagues again and MLB cannot stop them, BUT if they become profitable guess what? We have a monopoly and are taking your league away.
@ronclark9724 looks like you like striking that e-penii everytime you see anything negative that your master fisher or kaval opposes to. What stuff do they give you now free jerseys, free tattoos. You and your shill cronies are just at our high dr Josh Albrektson JalbyMD? The same person who is paid by Fabiani himself?
The A's have also filed for the "Sacramento A's &Sacramento Athletics" trademarks....but not "Las Vegas A's/Athletics"
(Last Dive Bar has an application in for Las Vegas Athletics though)
Now John Fisher has an excuse to field a AAA team for the next 3-4 years. The A's payroll is $43 million TOTAL. No marquee players on the roster and their minor league system is ranked 25th out of 30 MLB teams. I'll go watch the Oakland/West Sacramento/Las Vegas AAA's when they lower ticket prices from $70 to $15 per seat. If you're going to field a AAA team, you can't charge MLB prices. If the fans in Sacramento are ok with getting ripped off, that's none of my business. But for me? No thank you. No way I'm paying $15 to see the Rivercats and then pay $70 to see the AAA's. Minor league park, minor league team, minor league experience? I expect to pay minor league prices.
They're going to charge MLB prices for the A's in Sactown? That ballpark will be as empty as Oakland is now.
They'll put Ass on the score board
I live in Las Vegas. I will never be a fan of a John Fisher team. MLB should have forced a sale and avoided all of this.
I'm a life long A's fan since I was a tiny kid in 78. You had me at MEH! Love you guys. Well said.
The Triple A’s. A disaster for baseball.
The California Athletics of Sacramento ✅️🍺👌🤙💯💪⚪️⚫️🟣
Last Sunday, the Sacramento river cats had bigger attendance than the Oakland A’s did…. And Fisher is supposed to just sit there for the next three years, while up in Sacramento, he will have 14,000 fans?
I'm going to keep pointing this out. They won't play at the Vegas AAA ballpark because of heat? Record temp in Las Vegas at 2,000 feet elevation is 113º F in the shade at the airport. Sacramento record is 116º F in 2022, but if you don't trust modern temps like I don't the 116º broke the record set in 1925 and was 114º F before the city heat island effect was a thing. I've been there in July and the humidity from the Delta was horrible. Never had that in Vegas.
I lived in Sacramento for 5 years. It gets hella hot there. No thanks.
Sacramento averages 15 days per year of 100 degrees plus. Vegas averages something like 75 days per year of 100 degrees plus.
And the humidity is very low in Sacramento, it’s a dry heat. I lived 50 years in Sacramento and never heard a single soul complain about the “humidity from the delta”.
The delta brings a cool breeze in the evenings.
@@johncummings2087 No it isn't, I've been there when it was 100 degrees and it was no different than Georgia. It was miserably humid. You trying to say there isn't any evaporation on a hot day? You live up the mountain?
I LIVED IN SACRAMENTO FOR 50 YEARS.
it’s a dry heat, that’s not a debate.
I think you all are really underestimating the investment Vivek Ranadive (owner of the Sac Kings and Rivercats) will put into that park to have it ready for MLB. John Fisher may be a cheapskate, but Vivek is definitely not - he provides the Kings with some of the best facilities and amenities in the NBA. He wants an MLB expansion team for Sac and is treating this as an audition. They may not be able to do much in terms of expanding the capacity of that park, but I'd be shocked if he doesn't already have a plan to upgrade the clubhouses, bullpens, facilities, etc in time for the start of the next season.
the joke is that the mlb has a commish who hates the game
Can you imagine the dodgers under macord where almost there!?
Fisher not doing anything with pay. He is partial owner of the San Jose Earthquakes and they're one of the largest markets and one of the lowest paid MLS teams
@2:40 A'SS
Its really nice stadium but its too damn small for MLB players
Hi Sac, don't worry about the postseason, can't host a game at a AAA park.
Can maybe find the cost of the renovation of the field in buffalo (jays pandemic stadium) for an idea of total cost to upgrade that aaa stadium.
Unfortunately the Players association will just go with whatever the owners say because they’ll pay them off and tell them once this is done the league will expand to 32 teams giving more roster spots open for players
Last Sunday, the Sacramento river cats had bigger attendance than the Oakland A’s did…. And Fisher is supposed to just so there for the next three years, while up in Sacramento, he will have 14,000 fans?
It should say “MEH”
I don’t understand how nobody is doing anything about this announcement. MLB owners are OK with this?? How can the commissioner allow this? If you can’t field a Major League team in a Major League facility, then you need to SELL to an owner who can. Period. What are we doing ??
Fisher likes the major league money with a minor league mindset
It’s the sports leagues cycle…promote team equity (everyone can win the championship, then battle it out), after a time of non-desirables (small market teams) participation in the playoffs - let the super teams develop and create the Super Superstar Players until that wears out (league becomes irrelevant and boring), then start over with league equity. The A’s have been chosen to be the Washington Generals. New name Sacrament Generals (no typo). White Sox, Angels, Rockies, Marlins are Generals, too. Globetrotters need generals.
Manfred praised Arte for not selling right after he pulled out of deals, then he proceeds to keep Ohtani with little support, not trade at the trade deadline for multiple prospects, ship off the best Angels prospects for $hit that the release 3 weeks later, that most get released before the season ends…net loss of about 10 top prospects in 4 weeks….intentionally tanking the team for years. A decade before they can compete, and probably a new stadium will be required by new ownership at the time. It’s entertainment at the end of the day….not sports as we wish…it’s more than the love of the game.
The Homeless Athletics and The Homeless A’s, but fr they’ll probably do California A’s (CAA)
Are the A’s ready to have a packed stadium every balmy summer night in Sactown? Are the A’s players ready to play in front of big crowds at their new temp home? Are the A’s ready to move to a better city, that’s actually growing?
I think we all know the answers to these questions.
This will be a huge stain on Manfrauds time as commissioner
EMINENT DOMAIN!! Municipalities should own their sports. The citizens should own their sports teams. The teams should belong to the cities.
State owned companies, businesses or organizations are never a good idea.
So you are a fascist, correct?
@@PaulSmith-yu1bx Works in Green Bay if you change it to citizen owned.
Woke socialism is what you suggesting? This isn't not China or Russia!
@@broker4u China or Russia don't have MLB teams, last I looked.
I feel like the MLB paying for renovations in Buffalo was essential due to the Covid situation and not a fault of the Blue Jays ineptitude. MLB helped pay to keep the team in the US during the crisis and allow them to play. I hope they make Fisher pay for all renovations in Sacramento as this is all his choice
Vivek says fisher can pay for it all. He charges no rent to the A’s - fisher gives rivercats stadium free upgrades to facility.
That’s their reasoning anyway since they’re buddies. It’s honestly a scam and a joke.
Manfraud has ruined ball
If they are going to make improvements at Sutter Health Park they better start immediately. If there are no construction equipment by the end of the month then it won’t be happening.
Oakland is done ...that place is a cesspool.
@@AK-qo6tx What does that have to do with Fisher better hurry up and make improvements or big name teams can say not playing there? It isn't a given this is allowed to stand yet.
Angels spent 3 years in Dodger stadium from 1962 to 65 not a minor league park. Players Union might demand the same deal.
I think they will get prepared to hit it hard by September/October. Probably add seats or bleachers in the outfield where the grass is, that will be easy. Put seats wherever they can. Improve the clubhouse and bull pen. They will have 5 or 6 months to prepare unemcumbered.
It will have to be SAC
Or maybe SACAS lol
He sounds like John Henry
MLB still has its monopoly you guys, they were forced to get rid of the Reserve Clause and lost _some_ of their exemptions from antitrust laws, BUT not all of them.
How I will support the A's players and not the Ownership. If you want to attend an A's home game in Oakland. Purchase your ticket for a site that has a resell of tickets. This way Fisher will not get any extra money from ticket sales. Also use BART to travel to the game and bring your own food and snacks. DO NOT purchase anything at the stadium. Fisher then has to pay for security/clean up and other things. By doing this Fisher gets no extra income from you and you can attend the game and support the players not the Owner.
MLB tries to stop the wealthy owner (Cohen) with luxury tax thresholds and hurts the game (this past year’s fee agent class). But if the owner goes on the cheap, he’s protected.
No, let's call them the Sacremento Triple A's...
I wished professional sports would be like the Packers tbh lol let the fans have a piece of the pie!
Also for people saying Oakland is dangerous etc.
the 2024 10 most dangerous cities in the US (according to World Population Review):
1) Detroit, MI (Tigers)
2) Memphis, TN )
3) Birmingham, AL
4) Baltimore, MD (Orioles)
5) St Louis, MO (Cardinals )
6) Kansas City , MO (Royals)
7) Cleveland, OH (Guardians)
8) Little Rock, AR
9) Milwaukee, WI (Brewers)
10) Stockton, CA
I don’t see MLB moving those teams out of those cities 🧐
The following locations are the most dangerous cities in California:
Oakland.
Compton.
Richmond.
Lancaster.
Vallejo.
Modesto.
Victorville.
Huntington Park.
Been 4 blocks from Camden yards in the wrong direction?
This entire saga has been a fiasco we still dont know if this move to Vegas will happen. This gets more and more ridiculous
they did file naming rights sacramento a's
Should’ve been the Sacramento Circus Clowns.
For teams that are getting revenue sharing they should be forced to put 3/4's of that money into their teams payroll. No more taking all that money and pocketing most of it. Make the owners spend and get better or get the f out of the league.
PhiladelphiaKansasCityOaklandSacramentoLasVegas A's
Just like the Oakland Los Angeles Oakland Las Vegas Raiders
Should call them the Nomads, or the diaspora.
If they would’ve bought into the city
Sac would be great or Fresno would have been a better option in terms of bell park. Just bad marketing
It's pointless to blame the owners and the league of sports teams. The owners own them, the league runs them, they will always, ALWAYS get what they want. You, the people in charge of public resources (funds, land, building, location....) either put up or shut up. The city of Oakland, the county of Alameda, lost the Raiders, Warriors and now, the Oakland A's, what does that tell you about their priorities when it comes to getting a major sports franchise? There's a pattern, a playbook that the city of Oakland, the county of Alameda use against major sports franchises, one that DOES NOT WORK.
ATH will be what they put probably for Athletics.
If MLB had promotion/relegation then there'd be a punishment for an owner being cheap and letting your team suck.
think about it. Either playoff baseball in a minor league ballpark or a bad team w/AWFUL momentum for the sport of baseball trying to win over attention in Las Vegas
The Tropicana has closed but the demolition isn't happening until October ... won't even really be able to break ground for a new ballpark until 2025
Evidently you are former MLB ballplayers. I don't see anywhere on your site who you are. I heard "Kratz". Are you Erik Kratz? I heard "A.J." are you A. J. Pierzynski? Who are the rest of you guys?
This should be so embarrassing for the Fisher family, MLB owners, and Manfred. But for some reason it is not. I just do not understand !
That's minor @FoulTerritory - Strider going for tests and Bieber getting TJ surgery! Ouch!
If the NFL could kick out the owner of the RedSkins for being a douche so why can't MLB kick out the owner of the As ....for actively not trying
Sacramento is a great sports city.. they ALWAYS supported the Sac Kings , even when they were awful. Sac would still sellout Arco Arena.
It is sad to see what Oakland athletics ownership has done to that franchise. Very sad. If they go anywhere, they should go to Sacramento. They do not belong in Las Vegas. They need to stay in northern California. Let Sacramento keep them they will support them
The hatred for the city of Sacramento is real on this pod.
It's not towards Sacramento, but for Fisher and MLB in general for allowing this to happen.
Scott Braun and AJ are abrasive personalities. Interesting topics, but neither of those guys should be in public. No wonder MLB Network got rid of them.
They can go play in japan if they dont like the river cats stadium. At least they wont be walking in Sewer water in the dougout 😂😂😂😂
Shame on mlb for allowing this.
shame on everyone in the sport that doesn't speak out about this bullshit
It will Obviously say SAC.
You can’t spell Sacramento without A 😊 Sacramento A’s
You live there? Are you going to pay MLB prices in a minor league park? I'm wondering, it would be like paying $50 to sit in the grass in Spring Training.
It’s crazy the league is continuing to look the other way & let this happen. MLB is a joke, no wonder they’re losing to the NFL, NBA, & NHL.
As an As fan in sac im excited. At least you wont have to worry about your windows getting busted while you watch the game
I just think you guys are overreacting, to be honest! I think you will be impressed by Sacramento, the stadium, and the environment. Literally there are literally 4 to 5 mlb teams that average less fans than what the Sacramento stadium has in capacity. Baseball is on a decline regardless. It literally is a past time!
Except for a few teams you're pretty much right.
Don't underestimate the greed of these people. They don't just want more they want it all.
Boo Hoo. It’s like a bunch of chicks sitting around whining because they don’t like the new drapes at their favorite brunch spot.
They tried to build new stadiums in the Bay Area but too many people cried about it, so adios Oakland. And I went to high school 6 miles from the colosseum. Nobody is going to baseball games there, so it’s Adios Oakland.
Another episode of the WHINE and cheese club!
oh boo hoo. Sacramento will be hosing major league baseball. keep on crying
A,s will make more in sac than oak just get over it
There are 4 In/out Burgers within 7 miles of the new ballpark in Sacramento. Meanwhile the only one in Oakland(it was located near the coliseum) left and it's being watched 24/7 to make sure it's not tagged by graffiti. So far so good, there is a youtube channel monitoring it. Oakland can't even keep a Target/Costco/Walmart superstore in their city how did they expect to play hard to get for Major League f'ing baseball.
The moral of the story is Oakland is a s-hole, the Coliseum is an s-hole. There are 3K fans showing up to games in Oakland. They'll probably be around 10K in Sacramento. If you're only defense for the Coliseum being a big league stadium that players dream of having a cup of coffee there, because of the spacious locker rooms. That can be taken care of in Sac for chump change too. A's will gladly foot the bill, instead of paying 97 million in rent in the coliseum, the A's are getting free rent at his friends 'intimate' stadium in Sac town. So they'll use that extra money to improve Sutter Health Field.
Agree with all you say but it would be great if the A's built a retractable roof stadium in Sacramento. The Bay Area would likely still support them and the Oakland A's fans wouldn't get totally screwed like the Raider fans did. Have you ever spent a summer in Las Vegas? It ain't no picnic.
@@justkeepingitreal2024 You spend a summer in Sac? Record temp in Las Vegas at 2,000 feet elevation is 113º F in the shade at the airport. Sacramento record is 116º F in 2022, but if you don't trust modern temps like I don't the 116º broke the record set in 1925 and was 114º F before the city heat island effect was a thing. I've been there in July and the humidity from the Delta was horrible.
Fisher doesn't spend money. He let's prime talent go elsewhere rather than pay them. He gets revenue sharing and pockets the money instead of investing it into the team. He has a very clear and very consistent pattern of behavior. He's not going to change and start spending money in Sac.
Why would any team want to play in Oakland? Lmao....its a crime infested hood.
Black on Asian crime is out of control. 280 to 1 Ratio in a 2018 Dept of Justice Report. Justice for Jasper Wu
@@RevolutionTruthand 4 people were just shot in Vegas… wtf is your point?
@stefanbrown5872 4 people in a population of 2.8 Million. Las Vegas 12000 Cars were stolen in Oakland in 2023, population 450 000. New York City population 8.5 million only 4500 cars were stolen. Oakland has 120 square miles of food Deserts. 2000 stores have closed. Oakland defunded the police that cost 450 Police officers & 911 operators. I use to work Security & Host at San Jose Sharks Games, Oakland A's games, San Jose Spartan Football games & concerts at Shoreline Amphitheater in Mountain View. I took the Bart from Fremont to Oakland. You are talking out of your element. OAKLAND is scarry. I use to travel to DC. & Baltimore. Oakland is thousand times more dangerous. Just smiling at Your Own Girlfriend or Your Wife can get you shot if a Thug thinks you are dissing him 😆
@@RevolutionTruth just cuz your scared doesn’t mean anything.
I live in Santa Cruz rn. Still work in the East bay and and sf. I lived in Hayward for years. You turned tail and ran. You were definitely out of your element haha.
You really think people can’t walk down the street? Or have a normal life??? The Bay Area is more beautiful than anything Vegas has to offer haha.
Bro there are more addicts in Vegas than any other city. Make excuses what you want but you only read headlines which is the extent of knowledge…..
You left Cali cuz you couldn’t afford it as a security guard - let’s be real lol.
@stefanbrown5872 You making excuses. California and bay area is corny. Your right it is expensive. Why live in bay area I just watch bay area news. Get Ready for the Migrants Taking Over Oakland & San Jose. 😆 there be bussed in & planes full of dependents are on there way. You guys don't have jobs lol. Also you are right why live in bay area be a fake miionare paying $8 to $10,000 a month for a mortgage or $1.3M a house when you can pay $380 for a new two story $2000 Mortgage a house big back yard and not Woke like Wokeland & Haywire. You guys have PRIDE Parades 😆 🤣 We Have MALE Professional teams Enjoy your Crime & Side Shows 😆 🤣 Thank You Mayor Sheng Thao for The A's. SACTOWN is better than Oakland 😆 🤣Also $20 Raise Minimum Wage just closed 20 Restaurant Franchises in California lol 😆 😜 😂 you voted for it 😆 🤣 😂 😹
4 grown men crying about a city they’d never take their families to.
It's not about the city, it's about the huge scam that Manfred is allowing to happen
You are right 100,000 Videos how f-ck up WOKELAND is Nick Johnson has 14,000,000 views on his Oakland video and how bad it is. Every Major Store has left. No Dennys No Target, No Walmart etx...
@traci635 Oakland City Leadership is the scam. Oakland is rated the most dangerous city in the USA. I dare you to go to east Oakland at 11AM. I dare you take Bart from Fremont to Oakland.
They are commenting on how the franchise and players on the team are being treated because their owner doesnt care to win regardless of where the team calls home.
@EHASS43991 Would you build a stadium in OAKLAND? The City of Oakland was about to make the TAX payers pay for a $14 to $16 BILLION for a Stadium Development Deal over 45 years to John Fisher lol. Now the fake media & some player are mad at Las Vegas. Vegas is only going cost $380 million stretched over 30 years not using school funds like the lie Schools over Stadiums Propaganda is pushing. No school union Las Vegas is fighting this that's a lie. The State of Nevaca will use the taxes raised around the stadium zone to pay back the bond. John Fisher Saved Oakland from paying at least $14,000,000,000 Billion for a city that can't afford to make a Veterans Homeless Shelter, but it will give $14,000,000,000 to a cheap owner lol. America being fooled by what's going on in WOKELAND...By the Way John Fisher. Only worth about 2 Billion and Howard Terminal Cost $14 to $16 Billion, What bank in the World would finance this. NONE LOL. THE TAX PAYERS would have rewarded a CHEAP owner lol. Does that make sense.
Fisher should have been forced out. He doesn't have the money and/or is unwilling to spend his $ for a new ballpark. He's running to a minor league park now too. The union is doing nothing and imo are complicit because Oakland raised a LOT of $ plus a TIF to where the city would be dishing out near $1 billion. Fisher has to go... New owners would be willing to spend 1.1bil to build a waterfront park.
Besides the Players Union having a strike until the team is sold, what can they do? They don't have a formal say in the relocation/ expansion process.