I thought a.a.p. used the logo from the B&W Popeye cartoons for the Harman-Ising Merrie Melodies they acquired (which would have plastered the original WB logos on those cartoons like they plastered Paramount on Popeye).
Another thing I could have seen been done for the H-I MMs a.a.p. acquired was to attach the logo a.a.p. put at the front of live-action WB titles they acquired (with the prominent bongos)
This is how AAP did all of the WB cartoons - I've seen several 16mm prints of the Harman-Ising shorts that begin like this. In fact, on some they didn't even bother to fade out the "Merry Go Round Broke Down" audio, it just cuts off and jumps to the next intro. AAP even used this intro for some live-action films by just cutting it off right when it stops zooming out, before the cartoon characters appear on screen - but that's a truly rare find.
Wow! This is a rarity! This is definitely the rarest to find a 1933 WB cartoon “A Shanty Where Santy Claus Lives” with the AAP intro which was a rare B&W variant. There were some earlier WB cartoons that had the AAP opening. For example “Lady Play Your Mandolin”, “Smile, Darn Ya Smile” and a few earlier B&W cartoons right up until 1934. Steve Stanchfield did a beautiful job of restoring this 1933 WB cartoon a few years ago. In addition, it had a live action scene from a 1942 short “Christmas Cartoon” from Castle Films which I have it on 8mm where was silent with inter titles, but it had sound on there in the first half right before the cartoon. Watch carefully and see how it holds up. czcams.com/video/bUvFpCXHcIs/video.html
MTN -- You do realize there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that this cartoon -- or ANY cartoon for that matter -- could ever have an insert from another film that wouldn't be ready for NINE YEARS, right? Also, where are these other WB MM shorts which you claim to bear these AAP titles?
Thanks for the acknowledgment, @@SpongeDan. The truth DOES tend to have that effect on the uber-gullible. Be sure not to choke on that backward barf all at once.
Something tells me that the B&W Harman-Ising Merrie Melodies do exist with the a.a.p. logo; but even though they used the same color a.a.p. logo as the color cartoons unlike the B&W Fleischer Studios/Famous Studios Popeye cartoons which instead used a different text-only a.a.p. logo which looked very plain, except here this Looney Tunes a.a.p. opening card has been grayscaled to create a fake B&W effect to fit with the B&W cartoons, just like how the same color UM&M TV Corp titles used on the non-Popeye 1940s color cartoons from Famous Studios are grayscaled to create a fake B&W effect to fit better when plastered over the original Paramount titles of the Fleischer Studios' B&W Betty Boop cartoons.
They wouldn't have had to grayscale anything back then. All they needed was to use B&W film, and given what they were working with, not too much effort was needed at all for UM&M to perform separate plasters.
I don't remember the name of the tape, but the other two films on it are "Christmas Night" with the Little King (a bootleg Krazytoons print), and a live action short from Educational Pictures that I think was called "Dreamland", or something like that. I had uploaded the entire tape on my old channel, the Analog Archive, but everything is deleted now.
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Finally original a.a.p b&w print opening and end titles are saved and preserved!
I also recall seeing “A Great Big Bunch of You” (1932) with a.a.p. Titles.
If only A.A.P. had the rights to the B+W/redrawn Looney Tunes instead of Sunset Productions.
Why?
@@staspastukh2005 And why not? If that happened THEN Turner would got those in addition in the early 1980's.
@@Rlotpir1972 Yes? That is correct.
In this version Daffy's head is less tilted than in the color one
What if a.a.p Owned It Instead Of Sunset/Guild Films? Mine: The Original Opening and Closing Will Be Saved!
0:48 ending
Wait. Are you sure that this cartoon had an AAP Opening when it first came to TV?
I thought a.a.p. used the logo from the B&W Popeye cartoons for the Harman-Ising Merrie Melodies they acquired (which would have plastered the original WB logos on those cartoons like they plastered Paramount on Popeye).
i thought the opposite that it only did in looney tunes and merrie melodies but also in popeye
Another thing I could have seen been done for the H-I MMs a.a.p. acquired was to attach the logo a.a.p. put at the front of live-action WB titles they acquired (with the prominent bongos)
This is how AAP did all of the WB cartoons - I've seen several 16mm prints of the Harman-Ising shorts that begin like this. In fact, on some they didn't even bother to fade out the "Merry Go Round Broke Down" audio, it just cuts off and jumps to the next intro. AAP even used this intro for some live-action films by just cutting it off right when it stops zooming out, before the cartoon characters appear on screen - but that's a truly rare find.
Wow! This is a rarity! This is definitely the rarest to find a 1933 WB cartoon “A Shanty Where Santy Claus Lives” with the AAP intro which was a rare B&W variant.
There were some earlier WB cartoons that had the AAP opening. For example “Lady Play Your Mandolin”, “Smile, Darn Ya Smile” and a few earlier B&W cartoons right up until 1934.
Steve Stanchfield did a beautiful job of restoring this 1933 WB cartoon a few years ago. In addition, it had a live action scene from a 1942 short “Christmas Cartoon” from Castle Films which I have it on 8mm where was silent with inter titles, but it had sound on there in the first half right before the cartoon. Watch carefully and see how it holds up.
czcams.com/video/bUvFpCXHcIs/video.html
Not sure if you are not knowing that shit.
Mostly correct except AAP didn't purchase Lady Play Your Mandolin, for unknown reasons so its highly unlikely that cartoon had an AAP opening.
MTN -- You do realize there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that this cartoon --
or ANY cartoon for that matter -- could ever have an insert from another
film that wouldn't be ready for NINE YEARS, right?
Also, where are these other WB MM shorts which you claim to bear these AAP titles?
@@DLCOrganizationyour comment is so bad i barfed backwards
Thanks for the acknowledgment, @@SpongeDan. The truth DOES tend to have that effect on the uber-gullible.
Be sure not to choke on that backward barf all at once.
Something tells me that the B&W Harman-Ising Merrie Melodies do exist with the a.a.p. logo; but even though they used the same color a.a.p. logo as the color cartoons unlike the B&W Fleischer Studios/Famous Studios Popeye cartoons which instead used a different text-only a.a.p. logo which looked very plain, except here this Looney Tunes a.a.p. opening card has been grayscaled to create a fake B&W effect to fit with the B&W cartoons, just like how the same color UM&M TV Corp titles used on the non-Popeye 1940s color cartoons from Famous Studios are grayscaled to create a fake B&W effect to fit better when plastered over the original Paramount titles of the Fleischer Studios' B&W Betty Boop cartoons.
They wouldn't have had to grayscale anything back then.
All they needed was to use B&W film, and given what they were working with,
not too much effort was needed at all for UM&M to perform separate plasters.
Say, Jordan... exactly WHICH Amvest Christmas tape did this come from?
I don't remember the name of the tape, but the other two films on it are "Christmas Night" with the Little King (a bootleg Krazytoons print), and a live action short from Educational Pictures that I think was called "Dreamland", or something like that. I had uploaded the entire tape on my old channel, the Analog Archive, but everything is deleted now.
You know it color right