EXPOSED: Mohammed Hijab's DISHONESTY | **DEBATE REVIEW**
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Last year I debated Mohammed Hijab on the motion 'Islam explains reality better than atheism'. The debate was a disaster, and I have wanted to review it since it came out.
I originally thought it was so bad just due to the interruptions and talking over each other, but watching it back I realised it is much worse than I thought. Mohammed Hijab, and iERA, the organisation responsible for filming the debate, have some explaining to do.
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Intro - 0:00
Improper Crediting - 2:25
Editing Footage - 5:24
Controlling Comments - 9:25
My Microphone Cutting Out - 14:35
Misquoting Me - 18:26
Misquoting Me Again - 27:53
Misuses Logical Necessity - 37:25
Misquotes Me a Third Time - 40:30
Commits Tu Quoque fallacy - 50:59
Proven Wrong By Audience Member - 58:35
Outro - 1:04:15
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Timestamps:
Intro - 0:00
Improper Crediting - 2:25
Editing Footage - 5:24
Controlling Comments - 9:25
My Microphone Cutting Out - 14:35
Misquoting Me - 18:26
Misquoting Me Again - 27:53
Misuses Logical Necessity - 37:25
Misquotes Me a Third Time - 40:30
Commits Tu Quoque fallacy - 50:59
Proven Wrong By Audience Member - 58:35
Outro - 1:04:15
Alex you're very brave to debate with people who are delusional.
Bayu Istanto 👀👀👀👀👀👀 that gave me chills bro.
Alex, don't cry.
Урок на будущее.
In future, you should be careful and just stop talking when you hear that you are being cut out. Stop, look at the camera and make visual gesture to indicate that your microphone has been turned off/"has technical difficulties". They pull the same dirty trick in Russian Duma.
@Elmo And my reply to you is proof that Alex does not censor comments, unlike Hijab.
It's hard to win an argument with an intelligent person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument against a stupid person
Part of the reason might be, according to Cipolla's basic laws of human stupidity, because stupid people are mindless of the gains for themselves or others and as such act in a way where everyone loses.
@@sangwaraumo your right, because when we say win, we mean an agreeable conclusion by both side of the argumentation.
Looool alex has admitted now that the argument mohamed hijab was using is a good argument for the existence of god. He is coming closer to islam
@@ILoveLuhaidan Did u watch the whole video? I assume not.
@@pacco1737 Actually I did watch it in full a year ago but I am not talking about this. I am talking about his interview on “ capturing christianity” where he said “ The contingency argument ( argument mohamed was using) is a strong one along with certain ontological arguments” just go to hijabs channel and see the clip.
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience”. (Mark Twain)
This quote is used on both sides. Ive seen both religious and non religious people say this
@@sososoawesome1 Agreed. But in this particular case it relates to the religious person
@@paulwellings-longmore1012 my point being, its quite ironic. Dont get me wrong, im on cosmicskeptics side.
Is experience invalid? So, when men tell you about their experience, it is not true?
I don't defend these men who tells their experience. I am just asking.
@@ctt59You're seriously misunderstanding the quote. The quote isn't juxtaposing experience and intellect.
Currently the numbers on Hijab's "version" are - 3,265,042 views and 589 Comments. The views go up, the comments go down.
Lol
3 months later, 3 fewer comments
also hasn't had a new comment in 3 years lmfao
holy fck. its been 3 more years and there are LESS than 661 comments. Currently just 586 on that video. SMH!
Yep
180 ish now hahahahaa
It has blown up now, 26k plus comments
@@Nasir_3. we were talking about Mohammed Hijab's video where he keep deleting comments that don't go his way and it's just very ironic since the comment count keeps on going down
@@nosiume8275 oh I see, thanks for clarifying that
a philosopher once said: hold on hold on, hold on hold on, hold on hold on.
This made me laugh and not in a condescending kind of response. I legit though this funny.
LOL.
And followed with: “Wait a minute! Wait a minute my friends.” 🙌🏽
LOL
And we love that philosopher.
“I’ve never been more outraged in my life” -Alex in an ever calm voice
@@user-fm7nq7ul2c what's in the film?
Watch this to get gaslit almost as bad as the guy from the debate was gaslighting Alex. It's a total joke, doesn't even finish making a single point.
@@harvus796 youcef wasn't even smart enough to bait me into watching it lol
@@user-fm7nq7ul2c you messed up your chance.. I don't give traffic to trash channels
James Camper I’m a muslim and I have to agree on Alex on this debate, just this particular debate. I think Hijap completely misunderstood Alex’s statement.
In any debate it’s always important to understand the other person and listen. Hijab, I do admire him for his knowledge but when it comes to debates he is already fixed in what he believes in. I think he should have listened to Alex a lot more.
I’m a muslim, I don’t agree with everything Hijab has said in the Oxford debate. I’ve seen much better debates from muslims who actually listens to their opponents.
Mohammed Hijab said, and i quote "when the universe came into existance, it well and truly came into existence out of nothing" . Crazy that he changed his mind so quickly
He was quoting what Alex said, notice he was reading from a paper.......
no shit@@zeusoftheaegis9038
@@zeusoftheaegis9038 that's the whole point. Mohammad took Alex out of context so I was jokingly taking Mohammad out of context.
It also doesn’t even make any sense because who does he think created his god? Or did his magical powers just let him create himself
That dosent contradict İslam. The part that differed is how it came from nothing. Us Muslims beleive that the universe was created by God from absolutely nothing, and an athiest would beleive the big bang theory, meaning that it was created from nothing, but without god. Which is simply illogical
hijab is a verbal bully with zero listening skills and zero wish to understand anyone. he just wants to bully others into his beliefs by whatever dirty means needed (twisting your words, putting words in your mouth, endlessly interrupting to not allow anyone to understand you, attacking you, shaming you etc.). you have my deepest admiration to be willing to persist in a debate with such an appaling bully, as someone needs to do it for all of our sake... but it is so painful to even watch, i cannot even imagine what it must feel like to actually be personally subjected to such continued mistreatment .... thank you for your heroic representation.
"If you cant convince them, confuse them" Hijab took that literary, and to next level.
Lol guys, urs is all hate. U cant just accept the reality. Keep being morale atheist, very logical persons 🤣🤣 why instead of blaming each other like this dont we live together with all our con ceptions and misconceptions, than after death we are all gonna aree what is right and what is wrong. I mean, u artheis guys are so funny. Il make an example of you... so, there a banana on the table in a house in Iceland ok? What attestato do is refuse to accept the fact that the banana is actually there just because u dont see it;the fact is that u rejecting this fact or not makes not difference, because the banana always has been there and it is still. This same example we can use it to describe you atheist guys... u just dont like the fact that there is a creator and that he is gonna a judge you in the end of time, thats all, so u guys try in every way to put shit on people who believe in this so that ur toughts make sense for 1 time. U guys know it, in the deepest part of ur brain, that Islam is the truth, and no one ia gonna escape the power of God. Not randomly He said that if ALL ( humans and jinns) were to Pray for him, he's not gonna get bigger in any shape or form. At the same time, if ALL (humans and jinn) were to sin day after day non-stop,his kingdom will always remain the same. The pointer is that he doesnt even need you, even ur prayer, even your good deeds. U gotta care about him indeed, because u are just a useless human being, u are gonna a die 1 day and most important u dont even know what is going to happening to your Body and Soul, but you guys can well refuse the existance of a Creatore XD cringe no? So he doesnt need you and ur atheist mentality. The ones who are gonna pay for disbelievening are you, so if u are happy with this material life and ur evil doeings, well, than enjoy until u can, cuz time is short, im sure u remeber when u were 10 years old as it was yesterday... 60 years old are coming soon, if u reach them. Death is close, keep ur eyes open, have a good one.
@@morad6690 Exactly 💯 couldn't say it Better 💆🏻♀️
@@morad6690 bro your example is simply bad. for example, what evidences are there that the banana is inside the house? i mean you say it yourself, I cant see the banana inside the house. so I would need some kind of prove like a photo to make me belief that claim.
the problem is this, you guys cant give us any concrete evidence that the banana exist in that house and yet you want us to believe it simply because you guys said that the banana is inside the house.
that's just outrageous. and pls, how do you know that Islam is the correct religion. even if we atheists are wrong, based on simple probability, i can confidently bet that Islam is wrong.
That is how Satan works. Convince them or confuse them.
@@morad6690 Lol the fact that you started your reply with a peace treaty like why can't we live peacefully which made me think yeah good i should read further, and with every line the disappointment was just increasing inch by inch.
I hope you reread your reply and think what the actual heck you just wrote with a logical perspective.
and also started with peace and ended with how we are just afraid of "your" God and faking what we believe Lmao "You" people never stop making me wonder how illogical a person can be.
This is quite a beautiful example of the analogy of playing chess with a pigeon.
It is depressing how many times I have heard this analogy when used to describe a theist debating an atheist. It is like theists feel the need to lie instead of just admitting they have something wrong.
The pigeon always wins
Not theists but Muslims...
@tubetardism 20/20 dude I ment not all thiests bro , just muslims .
@tubetardism 20/20 dude!! Are you too stupid to know how umbrella terms work, or are you messin with me?
Ex-Muslim here, now an atheist. I left Islam in 2016 and finally freed myself from this death cult
Jesus is waiting with open arms! The evidence for him being god is outstanding.
@@peaweahoppeout of the frying pan and into the fire? No thanks lol
@@peaweahoppe God is only the imagination of the human mind
@@Ammeo no he isn’t. The evidence is incredible abundant that a god exists. And the historical evidence for Jesus’s life, death, and resurrection is there and fool proof. No one has been able to discount it.
We all belive everything u say cause u always speak the truth 😂
Hijab is one of the most disingenuous people to ever open their mouths. I wonder if he believes his lies or knows he's telling them when he speaks...You cannot have a debate with this man, he purposely drives the conversation into an argument.
The problem is, as the internet is showing us: It doesn't matter how obvious these people are. If someone wants to believe, they will overlook ANY knowledge that doesn't suit the belief. This is how open Iiars and pseudo-intellectuals come to have influence.
Test test... Oh hey look! Alex's comments aren't censored.
Holy Cosmic Koolaid!
What do you mean he is censoring comments? Oh so you mean he isn't censoring comments. OK so you retracted it then. You retract that statement. Got it.
@@Woodzta Hijab has censored many of mine (and not for swearing or being insulting. I'm a good boy)
In you title sequence is the red liquid wine or Koolaid?
I'm reporting you 😂😂
This debate is one of the most infuriating videos ive ever seen. People like this have to be called out and publicly ridiculed. This is just bad
I'm a free speech absolutist but momo hijab makes me pause... sometimes I think there might be someone so stupid they do more harm to society than themselves. But then I remember that society needs to know these people exist and just how stupid people can be.
@@hutchisonmichael1
"Just think how stupid the average person is. Then think how the other half is even stupider" - George Carlin - (that may not be the exact quote, but that is the essence)
no they need to be deported from the west, this isnt just an intellectual thing, you skeptics are so weak srsly
As a Muslim I’m honestly embarrassed that there are people like Mohammed Hijab defending our religion to make it look good to people when admittedly it’s not for everyone.
go watch mohammed hijab response to this video and stop with this mindset of bieleving anything the white men said u make me cringe
@@Taha-Aamamou I watched both not that you needed to, it was clear from the original debate how sleazy and pitiful Hijab was. I'm a Muslim too and Islam is about Truth. The Prophet had mortal battles with his blood and relatives for the sake of Truth!
@@Taha-Aamamoustop listening to what the brown man says you make me cringe more
Just to clarify, are you saying that Islam isn't perfect as a religion or did you mean something else by your earliest comment?
@yolande7871 Ok just to clarify, what I meant to say is that there are things that people don't agree with in Islam. If anything, it doesn't have to be forced upon to people telling them (they're ignorant for not knowing the truth). Can't we just tell people (Lakum deenukum wa lya deen) as in you got your religion and I got mine? Instead of crapping on them?
Growing up in an Islamic state, I often encountered this type of "logic" from muslim "intellectuals." While watching the debate, I could sometimes even anticipate Mohammed Hijab's next moves. What surprised me more was your amazement at his arguments rather than the arguments themselves. In another one of your videos, you pointed out certain drawbacks in Hitchens' debates, including his skillful use of humor and charm to create an impression of correctness even when he was not. In my opinion, this was actually one of his strengths. When dealing with individuals who behave like unruly children, throwing tantrums, kicking, shouting, and interrupting, you don't reason with them; you give them a timeout. Hitchens was a master at using his wit and charm to give these kinds of people a well-deserved timeout.
you can tell oconnor FEARS islama and hijab...... this is why h lost
@@cameroncarter6789 Lost? If anything Hijab's behavior shows that Islam is not to be taken seriously and doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I don't think that's true, but I also don't let one random clown represent an entire religion's viewpoint.
@@cameroncarter6789nah
He didnt lose@@cameroncarter6789
Well yes, it's the same old propaganda strategies taught in certain Islamic institutions all over the world. Refined over the centuries to convince the uneducated and to impose authority on anybody who disagrees by creating a facade that feels ridiculous to people who see through it. And, honestly, the guy is incredibly bad at it. He is so obviously acting, he is so obviously insecure about his arguments. It's all so forced, just a show. His rhetoric, his attitude, his demeanour. A terrible circus act.
Sometimes when he’s interrupting you he isn’t even saying words, he’s just making noises to be disruptive, that’s honestly ridiculous
Never in my whole life have I seen such an undignified, outrageous, unprofessional and pathetic behavior where you would really expect it. I admire your patient and calm assertiveness. Loving your content and mind!
I was shocked about Muhammed Hijabs behaviour of missquoiting. But when I learned, that he didn't missqoute and you obviously show other parts of the qouted video I was more shocked and disappointed. You truly claimed, that the universe came out of nothing and didn't qoute someone. czcams.com/video/7JibSTglpnU/video.html
He is saying minute 14 to 15 and you show parts of the video after the 23th minute
My comment to CosmicSkeptic.
The same goes for the other video quotation
@@yusufk1 you must like posting this everywhere
@@yusufk1 Stop it. Alex addressed exactly that quote. It was taken out of context.
czcams.com/video/jnf6XL7Z95w/video.html
@Rhonda T. right..
3 years later, was there ever an apology from Hijab?
Hes still actively deleting comments. Utterly disrespectful in my opinion
As a Christian I really appreciate Alex and his very rational questions to having faith in God. He tests the evidence and thought process of theists, which is really important.
I think it’s truly important to recognise that atheism does not mean blatant denial of the existence of any deity or divine entity. As an atheist myself, it is in my personal experience that I have not found any reason to believe in a pre-existing deity, however this does not mean I don’t believe there will ever be any reason to. I think it’s important that people like Alex challenge beliefs, because through admittance to mistakes or oversights, theists can develop both a stronger understanding of their cause and its nature, and a stronger arguments as to why people like myself should believe in it
God bless you brother in Christ ✝️
@@jack77262 I like that, none of us can prove anything. We can only take a position based on our own convictions and understanding of the evidence (or lack of). We must be open to ideas that challenge our presumptions and refute bad ideas.
@spike4876 doesnt that mean agnostic. Im pretty sure atheists deny while agnostics are not certain
@@mcclay9483 Inside _what?_
This video is a few hours old and there is already twice as many comments than on Hijabs video -_-
Yet only like 27k views... uh...
There are hidden agendas that media is doing to frame Islam as a peaceful religion and it’s a clear propaganda under the name of acceptance and Islamophobia...if the world continues like this it will be the end of it because of Wahhabism. We must do something. We must inform people with the truth. We must spread our message. As Arabic is my mother tongue and I actually read the Quraan in its original language (unlike many peoplr who call themselves lefies) I assure you it’s the end of the world after 200 years.
Support liberal Muslims who want to change Islam from within and raise more secular values. They are being attacked everyday and they are literally risking their lives for their message. Support Muslim reformers (who encourage the traditional value of Islam but not its teachings of killing non-Muslims, oppressing women, etc. and who generally have moderate or atheistic values like most non practicing Christians today who like only the traditional aspect of Christianity)
As a person living in an Muslim country I assure you the end is near...
@@kevinOneil6742 Someone does, or otherwise he wouldn't be consistently be getting more upvotes than downvotes nor can he convert anyone to Islam
@@kevinOneil6742 What do you mean?
j d Actually, No
Of course following the hatful, oppressive, sexist, anti-science and learning teachings of him is true that now in Islamic countries they are still debating the feasibility of western science (they still think some mental illnesses are evil spirit and they kill the mentally ill)
Christianity also has its evil past; it’s only because of reformation and the west’s more secular beliefs nowadays.
Secularism is the answer; humanitarianism is the answer.
Wow. This is so disgustingly insulting to each and every principle of honest discourse.
You expect a honest discourse when going into a "debate" with a religious person? Think again.
0x777 well I would expect them - by which I mean demand, not necessarily trust them to - to at least have the basic decency of not doing any of the things Mohammed Hijab is guilty of doing in this prime example of disingenuousness.
I don’t get why you would even engage in a discussion if you’re not open to learn something new. Same goes for a debate. You can make your point but you have to consider your opponents view as well - and do so in an honest way.
@@farmuhqas With the difference that my statement was not thoghtless but can be shown to actually be quite logical.
A religious person literally puts their life on the line when debating religion. They are invested in their position with pretty much their whole life adjusted and aligned along the idea that there is a specific deity or pantheon and that if this was not true, they would not only lose the meaning in their life but also they would lose the support of their peers, likely their friends and family, maybe even their income. Losing a debate in a devastating way could very well mean their end.
How many irreligious people do you know who are that invested in "atheism"? Personally, I'm not. If you could field a logical argument for a god, hey, ok, so I'll believe. So far, nobody has brought one up that could be considered sensible, but I'm not adverse to keep trying. I have no stake in the game, technically, because I wouldn't lose anything if I was shown to be wrong. If anything, I could win that way.
And now your argument for why you cannot expect a honest debate with an irreligious person.
@@711Zephyr If they were looking for a debate, I'm fairly sure that would be the case. The closest a debate with a religious person gets is usually what we see as "talk show" in afternoon TV.
@@0x777 he has nothing to lose by being dishonest. A Muslim has to answer to his Lord on judgement day if he is dishonest. Nice and simple
Fantastic video Alex - good on you to defend yourself and notify the public about deceitful acts. I also noticed how shady the comment section was on that video before watching yours. Especially when there were comments with tens of thousands of likes but not a single reply.
Those clicks, as your voice gets quieter at 15:05 are often the noise made by manually adjusted stepped digital trim-pots ("encoders").
A volume knob. I imagine THEN, the audio was muted, and came in with another single click as the mute was removed.
Oooooooh yeah those are from sampling! Those slime bags
I am a muslim believer myself and I studied and taught Islam for over 15 years in mosques and unis. I’ve watched the debate fully and I must say that I found M Hijab’s behaviour and debate ethical conduct don’t meet the minimum standards of professionalism and is utterly disrespectful. I’m sorry Alex that you’d to deal with that sort of behaviour, but well done for debating with integrity.
i agree fully, i'm a muslim too
I am a Muslim and I wear this Mohammed Hijab Very nice debate course And he wins And I don't know how you can feel bad about him I don't know how you claim to be Muslim Say good things to those who speak ill of your Allah to His Prophet And you call him bad who brings the message of Islam to the world Where do you get these thoughts from? 😅
@@MunnaHossain-cw7mu because Allah said in quran that we should be faithful and honest when debating people (وجادلهم باللتي هي احسن).
I’m against hijab because his bad behaviour shows that his argument is weak , i wouldn’t have any problem with that if he wasn’t representing islam to non muslims.. if he shows weakness than that mean islam is weak, do you understand?
An islam representative shouldn’t need to use devious ways and cutting people while speaking and the other stuff hijab does.
O’Connor lost. He has to just admit it and move on. He can’t stay stuck on this failure and the fact that Hijab kicked his ass.
@@cameroncarter6789 thats the thing, Anyone who studied this subject muslim or non muslim knows that Hijab panicked and started putting a show that only people with little knowledge believe, its an act not for the athiest or the non muslims there, its an act for his fans, and not all of them even, just the ignorant ones who don’t comprehend 5% of the topic, they just there just to clap when hijab tells them "افحمته"
As a Muslim I feel embarrassed. I think Mr. Hijab doesn't have enough intelligence to understand you and enough humbleness to admit it.
He has the intelligence, he is just dishonest prideful scum
I don't think he's stupid (just not as intelligent as he believes). His main problems are being manipulative, disrespectful and arrogant.
ur definitely not a muslim 🤣🤣🤣
@@ibrahimfaruq6630 and you are definitely stupid
@@ibrahimfaruq6630 What makes you say that?
Mohammad's video is several years old now, and it only has a few hundred comments from several years ago.
Almost like their deleting all comments, and critism. Well you know what they say.
Without lies Islam dies.
Just recently found your channel and have been going through all your videos. Keep up the great work and I love learning and hearing very interesting view points and ideas.
Don't know who's quote this is, but it does seem fitting here:
"Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pidgeon. It'll just knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut about like it's won anyway."
Perfect description
Even better analogy is, arguing with an idiot is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you'll notice that you're completely covered with mud, and the wretched swine has begun to enjoy itself.
😆😆😆😜😜😜
@Mohamed Boualem I thought the other guy (don't remember his name) had some really insightfull and interresting comments. I don't know that much about islam, but that supprised me in an positive way
Mohamed Boualem
Yes I to try to be open to other views on these topics. How else do we form a well researched opinion?
Couldn't say it any better..
It was never a debate. It was a filming of click-bait content.
you'd think more atheists would refuse to debate him after seeing him use the same shitty tactics in previous debates.
@@chazzanovatron He and his fanbase ridicule you online if you don't accept debate. It is clear cyberbullying but they always get green card somehow.
@@antoniusevan3722 David wood knows how to deal with that type of behavior
@em ma the solution is to simply put DWs and CSs proof of dishonesty and point out that debating with someone who argues in bad faith and straight up lies is not worth your time. his rape gang can just be ignored. what are they gonna do ? post mean things ?
@@chazzanovatron David Wood showed Love and chose not to react. by doing so, he didnt give the reaction that M.Hijab wanted and it made them look like fools and an embarasement to their religion when they taunted David Wood.
This video was the beginning for my transition out of islam
You make decisions based on how stupid Muhammad Hijab is? Because this debate is the last thing that would affect my beliefs
@@Jefflenious these people cant be real talking all this shit of islam where do they come from wtf
Bro well done for growing up. Please release that pedo mo lied and created this so called religion of islam.
Good job sir.
Good luck. I'm with you.
I saw Hijab being interviewed by Piers Morgan (yeah yeah I know), and was troubled by his technique (inability to listen; being pedantic; shouting; arrogance etc), and sought out more of his "stuff". Ended up with this debate in Oxford. Naturally Hijab was the same there.
What is really disturbing is that Hijab has 1.13m followers on CZcams alone. Millions of people in his universe are buying what he and people like him are selling.
They love him 😂😂 fools!!, I can't stand him! He annoys the crap out of me, he can't hold down a debate without becoming abusive, he is full of himself and arrogant!
This is infuriating. It's disingenuous and intellectually bankrupt and it's deceptive. No matter who wins or loses the debate, one should at least have the decency and courtesy to show it unadulterated so as to allow the viewers to come to their own conclusion. What makes it worse, is to misrepresent one's interlocutor by editing and totally strawmanning them; following up by posting a clickbait title. It's hard to respect someone who behaves in this way and then pretends that the victim of one's deception is being defensive or conceited.
@chocobonita I get that, and I agree, but in the context of basic decency with your interlocutor, it's still shockingly bad. I'm sure there are many Islamic apologists that are more consistent than this guy. You can see the antagonism in his body language as he's debating
@@akilbryan8937 let his body language aside, he annihilated the atheists. Nothing producing something? Please
@@BlackStarXx11xX Alex and most atheists never make that claim. That's why he calls himself agnostic, because he doesn't claim to know how the universe came to be, unlike religious people who claim to know because a book told them so and then refute every evidence contradicting it. Alex even said during the debate that he doesn't claim that but if that's what you got from it then no wonder you support Hijab; zero comprehension on your part.
Alex is taking advantage of his sheep follower
most of Alex viewer is very dumb sheep they clearly didn't watch the full video
the editing part is just the part where he recite the Quran in Arabic he already explained in his video
Alex can only claim that Hijab edit the video but he can never claim that Hijab twist the debate ,there are alot of audience muslims and non muslims during the debate
silly Alex and his blind sheep viewer
if he edited the video ,why would Muhammad Hijab included the part where he messed up? ?
where he literally got proven wrong by audience member
and the part where Alex microphone got cut out? why would he include that ?
why would include the part where he cut the mic when Alex quoting the verse in the quran that can be check and read by people online? even if the mic got cut out all the speaker member and the audience can hear him clearly
Alex irrationally claimed that the video has been edited and implying that Hijab twisted the debate i simply proved that his claimed is irrational
now you and Alex just giving pathetic lame excuses
Alex got crushed he need to move on instead of making pathetic excuses
nothing dishonest about the Quran recitation part like what Alex and his viewer try to imply in this video when he pointed it out
it is just excuses for Alex to satisfy his dumb supporter
it is what the Dumb Sheep who not watch the full video like to focus
@@BlackStarXx11xX just because atheists can't quite explain the origins of the universe, it doesn't fall that only explanation can be a creative intelligence. What you've just committed there is a 'Black and White' fallacy. This is not a binary discussion. Even if it were true that there were some kind of creative intelligence, how do you get from that to the concept of Jinns and Angels and the Heaven and Hell system; with an all powerful creator that governs every system? Secondly, the something from nothing argument is especially weak and is a misunderstanding of current physics. If you look at Lawrence Krauss' work, he makes it very clear what the so-called 'nothing' is using Quantum Mechanics. I find it hypocritical that theists often expect their interlocutors to have read up on everything about their respective religions before passing comment, yet make out of context, misinformed generalisations about beliefs diametrically opposed to theirs. It's a level of intellectual inconsistency and dishonesty that needs to stop
the fact Hijab handled it this way proves that he knows his performance wasn't enough to win honestly.
If he has no argument he must try something different, like lying and swindle 🤷🏻♂️
@@teckyify that is what he is doing already.
Also his faith is so clearly fake, he has to use bully tactics to keep off topic. He is maybe too smart for his own faith. But really I think he is just a narcissist that happens to be muslim.
here we have someone who didn't even bother watching the debate lol
@@MrStarnger1 I did watch the "debate" and MH did not behave as if he was in a debate at all. He is an ill mannered person through and through who only cares about looking like he won. I think he is a narcissist who is too stupid to understand the rules of western debate. Maybe where you're from interrupting people, talking over them, using semantics to push an agenda is what constitutes debate, but here in the world of not allah/jesus brainwashed fantasy bullshit behaviour we know the basic rules of debate. And if you read the comment section of MH's own debate video you would see several commenters suggesting that he develop some humility. Like the humility of shutting up his little asswipe mouth when it's other people's turn to respond.
I don't think this is a matter of stupidity, I see crystal clear signs of intentional deceit and manipulation.
Intentional, no doubt abt it. He employs tactics like this in every debate. He's like Alex Jones. Just starts interrupting whenever a valid counterpoint to his own view arises.
Wow. Watching the original debate and then watching this was just a wonderful journey. I’m so glad you made this video to clear up the air and point out fraudulent acts.
Next debate between Alex and Hijab:
Hijab takes a piece of paper and writes "GOD" on it.
Hijab: Do you believe this piece of paper exist?
Alex: Yes.
Hijab: BREAKING NEWS. PROMINENT ATHEIST CONCEDES HE BELIEVES GOD EXISTS
😂😂😂😂
Tbh I wouldn’t be that surprised if that happened.
Hahaha
😂😂😂
Lmao people like you believe whatever they are told. I feel sorry for you guys as you have no brains yourself. Tch tch
Man, haven't seen Alex this close to cussing since atheist al.
Cussing
Timestamp please.
25:20
33:34
Actually, it's the entire video.
@@airaparilla1977 I checked. There wasn't even a hint of swearing. Although, I haven't seen him this rattled before, that I'll give you. He's usually very calm and collected and in fact, he's very calm and collected in this video compared to how people in general react.
Umang Jain Lawliet is that you
I love that the original video has even fewer comments now and the most recent one was 2 years ago.
You are a brilliant man. Your analysis was amazing and I am terribly sorry that you got set up like that, we are all on your side. ❤
Hearing a religious person talk about “refuting magic” is peak irony.
I guess u get it wrong. Despite the fantastic narrative, which is actually secondary, the primary function/ purpose of monotheistic religions is to establish good and evil. It leads to a though that everything was created by someone and purposed for sth. Simple as ..ck. On the other hand magic is all about the fantastic stories.
@@prostoname5338 and is good and evil not a fantastic story?
@@hasanabduqayumov no it's not fantastic just relative
@@prostoname5338 "the primary function/ purpose of monotheistic religions is to establish good and evil" that is your interpretation of the purpose of why those religions were made. The most likely purpose of the invention of most monotheistic religions was to have political control over the people. It is easier to enforce law under one God, in contrast to enforcing law when there are multiple Gods that might even stand for different things.
Not to mention that is completely irrelevant, the purpose of something does not in any way affect its veracity. Not to mention, that how do you even know what is the purpose of all monotheistic religions, and how do you know what is the purpose of magic. It is nothing but an over generalization based on a personal and completely subjective interpretation of both, in the purpose to separate both in terms of narrative when the narrative was never in question, but its veracity. Purpose is entirely irrelevant when both are equally fantastical. Unless purpose adds veracity somehow, but if that was the case then it would add veracity to all myths and legends. Which would prove God as much as it would prove Zeus, and every other single God, therefore making Monotheistic religions false because they claim to be the only one.
@@farrex0 that’s not my interpretation. It is one of the classical as well as social cohesion theory and Marx’s idea of structure. Never thought that there is an exact answer.
“They attack the victim, and accuse the victim of attacking them.” - Malcolm X Civil Rights Minister
Without lies, Islam dies.
It's just md hijab, a CZcamsr not even a scholar.. try debating rabbi schmuley, then you will be called an antisemite..
Not just Islam.
here comes the anti vax maga pro israel evangelical
To all the anti alex commenters, dont worry, no ones going to delete your comments.
Lmao
@@inexorable100 I can't see those comments. Mind highlighting them for me?
It’s ok all yah have to do is scroll😂
Riaz Uddin just scroll down bro. Maybe look at some replies to other comments. They are in there.
Mohammed hijabs comment got deleted? Go check his response you will see he left a comment i cant find his comment. Can you?
Alex, you are claiming that Mohammed Hijab has been exposed. That is an active claim. Tell me how it is possible metaphysically, cosmologicaly , ontologicaly , from first principles. Give me the answers please.
He’s talking about making a claim during the debate and if you watch the video you will see that it’s possible without having to go through that other bullshit, because he just straight up exposed that guy right there on camera with the receipts to back it up.
😂😂👏🏻👏🏻
Nononono YOU said this. I understand that there is context, but YOU said it. Are you retracting that now?
@@bradwilliams6550 r/woooosh
@sombrero4321 r/gofuckyourself
Keep up the good work, Alex
Alex, in future debates, although it is not nice to do, you must start calling out these idiots when they misquote or flat out lie, allowing them to get away with it will not educate anyone
I have debated Hijab before... He is the poster child for dirty debating. You have to be in a debate with him to properly understand the levels of misrepresentation, sophistry & out right lies that he engages in.
Thanks for sharing. It was so hard to watch because I could see some of that but I couldn’t imagine being on the receiving end of that.
I’ve seen your content before. Your interactions in speakers corner are actually hilarious 😂
Big fan.
Heyyyyyyyyyyy 😃 Sa Ra. What you doing round these here parts?! 😎
Ertugrul Bey IYI
I’ve done that already... I’m good. I don’t debate such disingenuous people. It’s too frustrating attempting to catch them in every single sophistry type scheme, every lie & every piece of misdirection.
It doesn’t become about the topic, it then becomes about semantics.
A couple months ago I watched a video of his where he street “debates” with atheists.
He strawmans their point then chants that he “won.”
Shameful
Classic pigeonchess.
I find that cultists dont understand "if-then" statements.
They don't understand anything. Almost all Muslims are uneducated cultist.
I love how mohammed starts debating things you've said in the past rather than what you're actually arguing in the debate
I know right? That’s so petty of him
E.X.A.C.T.L.Y
Because he prepared that shit before and can't come up with credible arguments against what Alex says now, know why? because he doesn't have the access to his old video to misquote him. lol
Because Alex can and will change his stance whenever he wants even in debates he changes his “beliefs”
@@Asyrafazman11 Bro I’m a Muslim, but even I can’t deny that Hijab was petty by trying to argue against Alex by relying on things he’d said years ago on the same topic without possibly considering he’d changed his views overtime as we’ve clearly seen and that he focused more on that than Alex’s actual arguments in the debate
I love how beliefs can’t withstand criticism so people lie, turn off comments, misrepresent, etc.
czcams.com/video/_pkdBTt3O5E/video.html
Use that same logic here ⬆
There you go. 👍✌🙏🌷
Ismail Badr it is possible that he meant it as a joke. I don’t understand the full context so I can’t really say
@@obiwankenobi2520 you spoke the truth master, lead us with your high ground.
thanks for your effort here. Lots or folks we interact with have this weakness with their thinking what they want you to have said and believed.
Amazing how the woods grain changed, his mic went invisible and the lighting changed
You came to debate, he came to preach. That's it.
Ha ha...true.
Oh this
…or he came here to argue. He seemed to be solely focused on “winning” and was willing to throw reason, truth and reality out the window.
+1
@@fantasticg73 he threw lies and fabricated evidence to prove his point =.=" even his references were misquoted or dont exist
What makes you think he was misunderstanding you? Open your eyes. Whatever it was, it was done deliberately by him as a ploy to win the debate. I respect his partner though. His conscience was killing him.
His eyes seem pretty open tbf.... Chances are he's being courteous. Though sometimes it is hard to tell if someone is playing stupid or actually stupid...
I was shocked about Muhammed Hijabs behaviour of missquoiting. But when I learned, that he didn't missqoute and you obviously show other parts of the qouted video I was more shocked and disappointed. You truly claimed, that the universe came out of nothing and didn't qoute someone. czcams.com/video/7JibSTglpnU/video.html
He is saying minute 14 to 15 and you show parts of the video after the 23th minute
My comment to CosmicSkeptic.
The same goes for the other video quotation
@@yusufk1 they again , more copying and pasting the same comment everywhere - are you ill or something?
@@jonfromtheuk467 becausd Alex decieved people.
I don't like some attitudes of MH and i thought there is now one more. Dishonesty. But I was deceived by Alex. And other people should see it too.
Yusuf Kutlucan debate is all About showing power to the opponent .. the way he criticise, is Something always impress me.. And David Wood is a joke..
Heard you on the Modern wisdom podcast. New subscriber! You are brilliant and honourable at what you do, I'm so thankful there are people like you in the world.
CZcams routinely blocks my comments, not typically my original comments but comments that are part of a thread. It’s aggravating.
Yes.
Muhammad Hijab: You said you believe in Tlaloc, the Mexican god of rain.
Alex: I never said that!
Muhammad Hikab: So, you retract it? I win.
I believe in Tlaloc he's the one true God. He or She whichever pronouns they use is the best God ever. Zues? Yahweh? Odin? All garbage compared to the almight alpowerful Tlaloc. Praise him for when he pisses it rains.
@@deelaw. The only god is Dionysus. He makes that good shit
@@deelaw. u are so wrong, the only one true legend that exist is Chuck norris ~!
Fancy of you to think he knows about Mexican gods
@@deelaw. may him piss on all our lands
I'm surprised the moderator hadn't stepped in when mohammed kept talking over you. It nice to see, if you give an inch for the sake of argument and continue your point he takes a mile and states he won ... silly man not understanding debate and good form.
He understands the debate only too well. That’s why he is so dishonest. Conducting an honest, civil debate would mean he would be totally outwitted, out-argued and made a complete fool of.
I think he knows that he was outmatched which is why he went below the belt and stayed there.
Very true. You cannot be a bit charitable to such bullies. The visible discomfort on the person sitting beside him clearly proves that.
Good dhimi
czcams.com/video/jnf6XL7Z95w/video.html Hijab's response to this vid, fair to say he makes some valid points? Just get a room and sort it out rather than get a video out for each reaction and so forth
57:07 it feels like to me: "im 20 years old" "AH CURIOUS YOU SAID YOU WERE 19 YEARS OLD LAST YEAR! DO YOU RETRACT THAT STATEMENT TOO!??!??!?!"
This is an excellent video Alex but you may have to break it to parts for more reach.
Mohammed Hijab's debate strategy is theatrics.
He must have taken acting classes. 😅
"In minute twenty of this video ladies and gentlemen, my friend Alex here says the word 'the', now ladies and gentlemen the word 'the' is used by Muslims and theists alike. This proves metaphysically, ontologically and cosmologically ladies and gentlemen that Alex is a theist."
As a muslim, that's a very funny and accurate impression haha.
But ofc I have to make my stance clear...
This one sided review where he can prepare arguments to back up his arguments isnt a fair, or respectable thing to do. I think a review where he reviews his own conduct and arguments is very valid, and would be nice to see.
But this is just slander, and parts are dishonest.
I think he should instead accept he did poorly in the debate and evaluate why, instead of pin it all on "mohammed did this, mohammed did that, it was all rigged ! That's why I waited a year to make this video!"
Though, that said, I dont approve of Mohammed's conduct during that debate.
@@TheJwaad To call whatever that thing was a debate is to make a mockery of the term. Mohammed Hijab behaved disgracefully, and making a video bringing that to our attention is not only a respectable thing to do, it is the only thing he *can* do to call attention to the dishonesty, of which you have seen proof if you’ve watched the video.
If I play a game of chess against a cheater, should I “accept I did poorly in the game and evaluate why”? Of course not! I should, if I am playing in a club, report the cheater, or if playing casually, decide never to play with them again and call them out on it.
I’d very much like to see which parts of this video are dishonest, because as far as I’m concerned, Alex showed enough concrete evidence to doubt Mohammed’s honesty in every section.
A debate is not a game of out-wording your opponent, the goal isn’t to trick the opposition into agreeing with you.
@@thebuddercweeper plus there have been other times in which Hijab as strawmaned other people in his Videos by editing the Videos. So there is also outside evidence for his dishonesty. For example, he has a Video up where he speaks with atheists on the streets and there a few cuts to be found that convienently change the actual statements of these people.
@@thebuddercweeper I agree, it's hard to call it a debate, and that Mo behaved disgracefully.
But it's a stretch too compare Mo to a cheater. Your comment implies the only thing that went on in the 2 hour original debate was Mo screaming over cosmic's every word. Though of course having seen the debate, Mo did do that a lot, but that wasn't the only thing. He responded to arguments and put forward his own (it's been a year since then so correct me if i'm wrong).
So i think a more accurate analogy is you're playing a chess game, and your opponent is being noisy when you're planning your move, and distracting you, which is very crappy of them, but it's unfair to say it's the only reason you lost. (I don't think hijab won the debate though, i think the debate was just a mess)
Im ofc muslim (no shock there). And in islam we have to hear both sides before we make a decision. And i won't make excuses for Mo, he can do that for himself.
My issues are these:
This is stuff that should be handled 1st privately, and if that doesn't work, then publically. So if this was a genuine attempt to shed light on dishonesty and underhandedness (which i agree is an important thing to do), why didn't he attempt to talk to Mo about these things 1st (privately) and instead jumped straight on making a case against him.
If that wasn't the point of the video (exposing the dishonesty), and it was instead to review his own arguments (which i think is a fair thing to do, especially if you've improved or changed your stance on some arguments), then in my opinion that shouldn't be laced with mockery and derision of his "debating" partner.
So basically, i like what alex says, but not how he says it.
In my opinion what would have been the most grown up thing to do, would be get into contact with hijab and record a conversation about the points of "why do you censor comments", "did you purposely cut off my mic" etc, instead of speculating his reasons, and pinning those to him.
But for the rest of this video, i think the points he's making in review of the debate are mostly fair, but those should be separate to his (cosmic's) claims of the underhanded business.
@@thebuddercweeper I realised i forgot to mention what was dishonest.
Just briefly, cuz i think i've already typed enough of an essay in my other reply.
I retract that, i think the review part of this was honest. (I can't speak on the claims of underhandedness until i hear both sides though, as said in my other comment).
I do think the points cosmic makes are honest points. "Dishonest" is wrong of me to say.
What i do think though, is that this format isn't a fair thing to do, a post debate one sided argument. He's saying Mo misrepresents him, and in response he's misrepresenting Mo. This is what i meant in my 1st comment, where i was saying a review would be nice, as opposed to just attacking Mo. Also why did he wait til now for this? He said that it was cuz Mo was clickbaiting and such and misrepresenting him by those, but those aren't the focus of this video, a year old debate is.
EDIT: Sorry that i made this comment section an argument, the original comment was just a funny joke, but no use crying over spilt milk.
czcams.com/video/jnf6XL7Z95w/video.html - Heres Mo's side, watch this with the intent to listen, as you did for alex, not with the intent to argue, then make a decision.
In my opinion this answers to the review section of this video (this "exposing" video), but it still doesn't answer to the censorship, but i think that's a separate issue.
Linked this review in the original debate comments.
I’ve seen Hijab being dishonest and childish in other videos. And this is the best that Islam has to
offer?
He is the cream of the dawah crop.
This ranting, interjecting kind of “debate” where one participant simply talks over the other and constantly repeats himself is just frustrating and painful to watch. It is the very obvious tactic of the obnoxious, the arrogant and the desperate. It just stonewalls any chance for an interesting conversation regardless of who you support or your personal beliefs as a viewer. The moderator did a very poor job here.
The moderator didn't do nothing as per usual as the 'fear of offense' outweighs the ability to stand up in what's right. If you challenge Hijab, he will play victim and to his supporters and say Islamphobic, you have hatred, you're racist, etc. I've had all those propositions - the religion is hate is all there, however will hide behind race and belief to justify their position by propagating more hate. Using secular values as a defense to destroy and replace with Sharia. We know the game.
@@CZcamsr-qt5rn absofuckinglutely correct!
As I just warned a theist who replied to my comment on his reply...
They will start a war they will not win... I'm not happy about it ending lives instead of freeing them from this forced mental slavery... but I am hopeful for the future of those who survive. Hopeful they will not pick up this book of bigotry, slavery and mental neglect and continue it... because it leads to one thing... lies begetting lies and hate spawning more hatred.
czcams.com/video/1KrJvpD0nNM/video.html
Checkout this guy
@RealGodsTruth you cant worship the real god. Impossible. Because I worship the ONE TRUE god, and you're just worshipping the wrong god. (Prove me wrong.)
@RealGodsTruth because god speaks to me. And he hasnt told me you speak to him. God told me the the original poster of this thread is correct. And you need to stop wasting your time.....what? Wait, hes speaking to me as I write. He says, I shouldn't tell you anything, because you will just deny everything anyways. And you're just gonna think that the god I'm talking to is the same as your god. And obviously you're wrong because I can never be wrong. (That's how ALL theists sound to me btw.)
I watched the debate first and saw almost everything he brought up in this video. I went to the comment section there to see the outrage, not a single person there had anything to say about it!
Then I found this video and felt restored to sanity.
Alex, we appreciate everything you do!
I had the same happen to me.
Same
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He responded right here buddy
What did you expect? Most were muslims so of course they would keep hijab side.
same thing happened to me !!
I'm struggling to watch clips of the debate. Alex your patience is outstanding. What an insufferable person Mr Hijab is. I can't stand listening to him 😢
He did the same in the debate with Christian Prince
You'll see a lot of comments in those channels saying things like "I'm glad I return to Islam again" or "I was so stupid when I was atheist, thankfully I reconverted to Islam", but you can't find any comment defending atheist views which is suspicious. In debate comment sections on actual neutral channels you always find comments defending both sides. Even in some non neutral channels you see comments defending both sides, like you can find comments arguing against Alex in the debates in this channel. This just makes it really evident that the comment section in those channels are manipulated
Yeah right, thats what i was thinking too. Especially on a rather controversial topic like this, there are at least some people defending both sides.
This comment section is not two sided either...
@@principlemethods5281 This video wouldn't reflect the comment section of the typical debate vid Alex posts. Normally you'll see a large amount of people who agree with Alex (which is natural since it's his channel) but you'll also see some opposing comments. This isn't the case on Hijab's vids and I don't think most people would defend that attitude (except for his toxic fanbase). But if you want to disagree with anything that Alex said in this video you can do it, at least here your comments don't get deleted for disagreement
they never were logical to begin with thats why or else its not easy to return to religion other than emotional reasons indoctrination
It's called religious echo chamber. Nr 1 enemy of religion is thinking individuals.
"Winning a debate against a smart person is hard, but winning a debate against a stupid person is impossible"
~person who said this
Edited: the word against was missing
you're the messiah
bokachoda nischoy
Well it's actually came from Muslim Scholar. He said "I have never debated with a knowledgeable person, except that I won the debate, and I have never debated with an ignorant person, except that I lost." - Imam Syafie
The person said it is Imam Ali a holy person in shia people
@@alimqairumin5820 Could you stop saying "Muslim scholar" all the time? That's like saying "Western European scholar" for everything under the sun over several centuries. What kind of scholar??
He's a crook, a liar a cheat . Shameful. Shame on him .
That is the reason why I think all debate should have a non interrupt rule.
44:20 "Alex only showers when it rains" - probably Mohammed
xDDDDD
Let me explain
Alex: "If it rains, I get a free shower"
*Alex gets a shower*
Mohammed: "Alex showered, therefore it rained"
This is shockingly rude. Laughter aside, I can't believe how manipulative this man has been. I suppose it's somewhat of a compliment - the only way he thought he could win the debate is to edit it
By the comments he does this again and again, is how he operantes and I bet he sleeps just fine it takes not guts to be at that level of dishonesty but the lack of any
@Varunraj Kumar I'm referring to Mohammed Hijab and I think Hazel is too
Katie As a muslim, I’ve never been a fan of Hijab’s character. I’m not surprised by the dishonesty he has demonstrated here because it’s not the first time he has done this. To me he is just another human being prone to making mistakes.
@@faznaz7455 I completely agree, this is certainly a pattern of behaviour for him - not just the editing of the debate but his behaviour within the debate as well. Just for the avoidance of doubt though I want to clarify I don't think his faith is the cause of his manipulative behavior, its just his character and its honestly very disappointing.
Lool its obvious it was edited in if he was trying to hide that he would've acted like he was talking to an audience rather than talking directly to the camera.
Brilliant work alex
Hijab has recorded the footage without a lapel microphone on; in the same venue. You can see with the mic present; just above his left ear there is a half moon indent in the timber paneling; that aligns with same half moon, 3 panels to the right on the non-mic footage; Count 3 panels left and the woodgrain also matches. So in the non-mic shot he is standing in front of the same wall but further to the left.
His tie was, on balance, moved when the mic was removed. That footage was taken separately; and I believe was missed from the original color grading post processing because the color grading is certainly very different from the rest of the footage.
His tie has been adjusted at the knot also on the non-mic clip; but his pocket square is the same. These both indicate that the footage was taken after his mic was removed at the same venue.
This man is not in debate. He is in bully mode, not debate mode. It was evident from the begining of the process. His tone, remarks, inability to listen, or let you speak.
Lol
And they still have to edit it because it's so shockingly bad.
Nah, he's just actually retarded
There are different kinds of debates. A philosophical debate intends to discover the deeper truth, a political debate intends to sway the audience and a religious debate intends to recruit followers.
If you want to "win" the debate, it's important to know what your goals are. Considering his goal is to retain followers from what he views as a threatening world view it makes perfect sense for him to shout it down and ignore the logical premises that his opponents put forward in order to deliver more emotional rhetoric.
They'll lose a debate, and still say they won, therefore it seems it still counts as a win to them.
This is how he argues:
"Have you ever believed in anything?"
- "well yes, there are certain things I bel-"
"OK SO THEN YOU BELEIVE IN GOD"
"Nooo, that's not what I mea-"
BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID AND THAT'S MY DEFINITION OF GOD, SO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD.
"We seem to have dif-"
ARE YOU RETRACTING?
"I sai-"
ARE YOU RETRACTING?
"I jus-"
ARE YOU RETRACTING?
"Can I-"
ARE YOU RETRACTING?
"I knew it, I knew it, you don't know Arabic"
@@Strugglebaddy616 HOLD ON HOLD ON.
HOLD ON HOLD ON.
HOLD ON HOLD ON.
LOL but his arguments still stand tho
Azizbek Egamberdiev whose argument?
16:11 I may be wrong, but even tho it's muffled, I can still hear some level of reverberation, as if the mic was indeed working at that time. Or at least some mic was working.
His analogies are amazing! I was confused a little bit when he was explaining determinism but when he used analogies, i fully understood
The very fact you’ve managed to change your mind on certain topics through discussion actually puts you on a higher ground than most people. You are showing you can change your view when introduced to new ideas. Well done not many people are even capable of doing something like that
czcams.com/video/sU-GZeai6As/video.html dude exposes muslims and they get angry hahahah
Their book is SO real that they have to lie about its contents to shelter us. How humane. How humble.
Extremely real!!☺
seems that it's ok to lie for your god.
So basically it's okay to lie to yourself and debate for the sake of being right instead of debating to get to the truth, it's also okay to lie about people lying, but it's not okay to ... oh wait, I think I made my point ;)
Btw I challenge anyone to show me where exactly have they lied about the content of that book in this video or any other video, I'll wait.
@@medsammy1237 I find people who only mention the good parts to be doing a deceitful thing albeit not always on purpose. But the Muslim feminists out there that claim that Islam empowers women, forget to mention verses like the one shown in the video about beating women or the ones saying that a woman's word in court is worth half that of a Man. If you want to find them they are second surah of the Quran verse 2:282, Quran 4:34.
Alex I'm really glad we have you, and please don't lose your integrity, because we will need it very soon
a bit of confusion at 38:00, (following avicennia thought) p is necessary in itself and entails q, but q is a possible existent. whatever is not a necessary existent is by default a possible existent. therefore, p exists, but it's existence does not guarantee that of q. p entails q only possibly, in other words.
Muhammad Hijab has proven himself, a manipulative monster. Both literally and figuratively!
Nothing more, nothing less!
Lol. Your comment is a joke.
@@AR42499 no your a joke..stop smoking cheap cigarettes
@@AR42499 not an argument
@@AR42499 Your mom is a joke
I cannot stand watching him, I've tried he just gets under my skin, he is full of himself and arrogant!! funny thing is Muslims get offened when you dislike him to 😅😅
I imagine arguing with people like this to be incredibly frustrating, when the other side simply isn't interested in actual conversation but just "winning" a conflict. The difference of wanting to find out the truth or understand one another to just display oneself as being correct. I am cringing so hard watching this. Hats off to you for staying calm in the debate and throughout reviewing it.
He is an expert. In that he did it to David wood
Just wanted to point out that the mic's for you and your college are upside down. giving that nice underwater sound effect.
1:03:25 Rarely am I reduced to tears of laughter but this impression was absolutely brilliant. 💀
You learned a great lesson from this debate: never let an opponent choose the terrain. Always make sure it's a neutral battlefield where everyone has equal rights to footage. I almost wish you had used some sophistry by Christopher Hitchens (but I appreciate why you do not). But this is how legends are formed. Keep putting yourself in tough situations, and you will be stronger.
You guys should check mohammed hijabs response.
czcams.com/video/jnf6XL7Z95/video.html this guy is very hypocritical i am talking about Alex
‘never let the opponent choose the terrain’
’always make sure it’s a neutral battlefield’
Bro it ain’t THAT serious lol... it’s ok, that’s not the first time someone like him flusters after looking silly during a debate and proceeds to make videos tryna justify and repair his broken position later on (1 year later in his case)
All that’s missing is ‘you’re a great soldier Cosmic💂♀️’
@@noname-gj2rp I was going to watch the whole thing, but his editing is so poor (audio level inconsistency, etc.) that I stopped after about a minute.
Lool no one stopped him from filming it.
As a Muslim after watching this and the opening statements I’m very embarrassed by his dishonest behavior & unjustified ego. He’s so smug; Alex is politer and way more articulate.
Bro that’s what I thought for like a week but Mohammed Hijab addressed this video Alex is just deceiving us
I just saw that video and made that same statement on the comments section. He is arrogant and aggressive and can't be taken seriously even if he has a better argument.
@@farzini9448 actually no, his video addressing this video didn't even address the whole issue. He just cherry pick and just denied that he is misquoting Alex which let's be honest, he actually did misquoted Alex. It's obvious in plain sight.
@@farzini9448 my Muslim friends watched that video too. They didn't like it or agree with it. I would recommend you to watch The Muslim Theist. He's the only channel that have better style or arguments than Mohmmad Hijab. Even as an Agnostic, I'm a huge fan of The Muslim Theist.
@Balkan Wolf he did address is
Western civilization understood for centuries what Islam represented. Why are we indignant or surprised now?
Making cuts and adding footage is quite insidious because some of us listen to these types of debates without watching the video while at work. If I had watched the debate recording they put up with the spliced in footage I would never have noticed because of the visual anomalies i would never have seen
I've never ever seen someone so confidently be wrong as Hijab
Have you ever seen Trump? lol
@@SergeDuka have you ?
try ali dawah next
Haven’t seen that guy in the video ? Boy!
czcams.com/video/jnf6XL7Z95w/video.html
@@SergeDuka Trump atleast knows he's wrong
This is not the first time he has done this. He's been dishonest and abusive to a lot of atheist bloggers and youtubers.
From what I understand, he feeds his audience with this sort of rhetoric, hoisting some flag of moral victory.
He's a clown
Please share the other instances (with links) we all want to know his truth.
@@Maru-hr2dg I don't have the video links handy but both Apostate prophet and David Wood in his channel has mentioned how based on a message chat they had with hijab, the latter quoted them wrongly and made spurious claims in order to claim victory in their arguments. I get the notion from all of this that he is in the habit of doing such activities.
@@shubhanshjain Anyone can claim anything. The other side also claims same for them. I dont believe Woods at all for same reason.
@@Maru-hr2dg correct, and I mentioned what I believe.
Thanks Alex
Your humility, kindness, eloquence and commitment to truth and reason shines throughout this. Not once do you stoop in levels, you are a bastion of moral fortitude and the way you conduct yourself throughout is truly admirable.
Your patience when dealing with someone that rude and arrogant is something I aspire to have.
Same, I admire Alex's professionalism.
Yuuuuup
Bro couldn’t agree more, this is something even i’m trying to cultivate
I would have shouted at Mohammed saying to cut the bs and let me speak, probably throwing hands too. Can't stand people that interrupt me
@@FedericaGalli89 can't agree more 😅.
They should have these debates with whiteboards and someone who holds the power to make someone stop from speaking.