Trackmania Tool Assisted Speedruns are BEYOND Incredible...
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2021
- In Trackmania Nations Forever, players have started creating tool assisted speedruns to showcase what frame perfect gameplay looks like. And it is absolutely mesmerizing to watch.
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Car: flips across the entire map and finishes the track in record time
Game: you did a flip! :)
Fuck dude sure did
"FLIPs across the entire map and finishes the track in a record time"
yeah true
Thank goodness we don't have to see the horrific injuries of the drivers after these tricks.
@@itchykami "Sir it seems like you're missing 5 fingers, had your gall bladder, spleen and a kidney forcefully removed, 25 fractures and 50 broken bones, along with severe amnesia and concussions. Both of your shoulder blades are dislocated and are now sticking out of your body like wings, all your vital organs are punctured and are suffering or sever internal bleeding. We are going to have to amputate one of your legs and finally, your forehead has managed to be infused with your steering wheel. However, congrats you got the record."
@@itchykami he had his seatbelt on dw
I wish these players could TAS my commute to work
hi verified person
Doodle, now you can make an insane TrackMania synced with music video. With TAS it won’t have to be a pf map :D
Can’t imagine how long it would take though.
Not a good idea. You'd probably hit work through the window at highway velocity.
Hope you like arriving to work with puke all over you :)
@@gbod6002 “how I managed to uberbug to work”
Ok but can we talk about that turnaround on the checkpoint at 8:58
That was even more incredible to me than the huge jump leading into it
I was gonna say! We got people swinging around like Tarzan.
Yeah, it was so smooth!
when she says she got a kid
@@ImXyper holy shit
This whole thing reminds me of going into the top ranked players in polybridge and seeing that there's no actual bridges, people just drop tiny pieces of wood onto cars in such a way that the physics engine bugs out and catapults the cars onto the finish lines in the correct order.
Now that reminds me of prop flying in source engine games.
RCE
They actually drop roads, woods have no collision with vehicles
I actually got goosebumps looking at some of the crazy skips. the fact that this 12 year old game is getting such revolutionary discoveries so much, is honestly incredible.
Yes, this tool is so amazing
I started playing it thanks to the CZcams algorithm recommending me Wirtual’s videos
This game is full of exploits and bugs and neither devs nor players seems to care. For 12 years. This is really revolutionary.
It reminds me of bhop before any tas were made it was just a theoretical route that could possibly be done in a run, and you would have sank hours into trying to hit the route to see whether or not it was possible
I mean a 36 year old game(Super Mario Bros) has only just been pushed to pretty much its abolute limit by humans and TAS
Soo you could just theoretically get infinite nosebugs in every map and break the game
next wirtual video: how trackmania players turned cars into endermen
what happened to you channel taikamuna? (not tryna be rude)
@@whitehonda2874 yo you goofy af
No
Youre driving a car and youre trying to get there as fast as possible.
Its already a Tool Assisted Speedrun :D
The thing I learned when I was active in the speedrun community was that unless something is literally impossible for a human to input (rapid fire hopping in mario kart wii for example), then nothing will stop someone from trying. I've seen many many things that were at one point deemed "TAS only" because no one actually tried to do it long enough. most things are able to be done by a human, it just takes one person to go "hey look I did it!"
For example, the Rainbow Road Ultra in Mario Kart Wii
@@issadraco532 games weren't exactly meant to be played in one particular fashion. Sure, the majority of people who play Mario Kart play it casually, but that doesn't mean everyone has to. People could play games exactly how they want, and if they wanna waste dozens of hours for a single digit to go down, then so be it.
The reason why people speedrun is simply to test the limits of the game in a competitive and entertaining-to-watch fashion. Sure, it may take dozens of hours, but that just goes to show how special it is to them.
And sure it may be a time waste. But it's also entertaining as hell to watch, and I think that's exactly what games were made for: to be entertaining.
@@issadraco532 Mah dude have you ever heard of competitiveness?
@@issadraco532 it's a competitive practice of technical skills. A second is a big deal because it's a competitive scene.
except when it's consistently 99% improbable and nearly impossible, it is no longer fun or exciting most of the time. 99% of the time it's just grey work.
Despite how funny some of these look, it’s frankly astonishing that most of them only save a handful of seconds over the previous un-assisted speed runs
"only a handful of seconds" are a lot in TrackMania. Most real-time world record improvements are f.e. could be 0.5 seconds, 0.1 seconds or even less, such as 0.01 seconds!
This the type of game where 1 second REALLY matters
In this game every milisecond counts
Only need .01 for a new world record
sorry guys how do i download the tool?
Watching this has made me realize all maps are Kacky maps if you’re trying to go fast enough.
omfg LOL I DIED READING THIS
I love this comment
@@Jnic love your channel :)
XDXDXDXD
Yeah, these shortcuts don't look too impressive after watching people finishing all those crazy Kacky maps
I am so happy B04 was finally done ✌️ I remmember how everybody was laughing on that strategy I had years ago. TAS brings trackmania posibilities to a absolute new level 💪
Třeba bych do tebe nikdy neřekl, že bys hrál TM :D. Mega strategy.
Lmao potkával jsem jméno Tortugo x let zpátky v trackmanii když jsem byl malej a to jsi byl ty xd who would have thought
It wasn't done. It was prooven to be possible by the TM-interface tool. So you can look how the tool did it it try to actually do the run.
do tebe bych to nečekal :D
@@TremereTT he's the speedruner who theorized it, I think he knows better than you
"And then Hefest got this crazy run, beating the TAS run"
Just waiting for Pablo to show up when he hears of TAS
@@lewisnorth1188 bro that was a year ago u fr think pablo doesnt know about it lol
@@cezanvaneeckhaute9520 joke
I would honestly like to see a leaderboard specifically for TAS
In some games it's included. I'm thinking platformers like the Mario games or Minecraft SSG that are VERY impressive to watch
TAS leaderboards typically arent too common because TASes are often seen as community projects instead of records held by a single individual.
I want to see Trackmania in the TAS Block of AGDQ 2022.
Please get Donadigo and a team of TASers together and apply for it once submissions are open. It would be great to see it there
+1, would be awesome
That'd be awesome and would also give the game more publicity.
@Terrific Tape Haven't heard of the cosplay incident, but some of the swearing incident. While i think that it isn't perfect, you have to limit things such as swearing to a certain level and if you let too much through people will just test and breach those limits.
It still is an entertaining event and a great opportunity to show off runs and TAS's to a big audience (while also raising money for a good cause). And as Wirtual already participated in SGDQ 2020 Online he seems to at least somewhat agree with it.
agdq is kinda bad now though due to its organisers, some highlighting of the game would be good though.
ESA TASBlock when
Watching TAS runs has made me laugh so much (especially B04, thank you Trinity for that masterpiece), I love what the community is doing with the tool and I can’t wait for more TAS content! :D
I hope this comment gets popular
How did you comment 16 hours ago
Poggers
I dunno how he did it
They are a patreon supporter
So early access for them
8:50
ppl: Look that guy sucks
TAS player: I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you
I have watched 16 of your videos in a row starting yesterday (when I didn't even know your channel existed and knew nothing about trackmania) and I am completely hooked on your channel and hyping over trackmania WRs, keep up the amazing work!
same
who are you and why are you me?
Same same sameeee
It's honestly how most speedruns/speedrun documentation channels get ya.
Summoning salt says hi.
I can't help but laugh after seeing some of these, absolutely insane! and I love it.
Ello
Ello
Ello
Whaaaaat
Getting over TrackMania?
Dude, imagine if someone started practicing these skips at insane slowmo learning them identically and then stepping up the speed until they get to 1x
but then...
There is probaly someone doing this currently
@@mistermoee ... Riolu had this run....
@@Harleyyz … and got carried away with it and lied …
Lol that pfp is smart lol
I like how every maps have it's own sentimental and historical value
i need a channel like this for every game, accurately describing every step of each event, taking clips and short useful explanation, i would watch hundress of hours of content without noticing, i dont even play trackmania and have 0 idea of whats happening but with you explaining it i fell like its a game that i ve been playing a lot in my life
Try summoning salt he's got videos very much like that
I think its been a great spin on the cheating scandal. Players who enjoyed optimising records with tools now have legitimate ways to do so and get recognition
It's like an all-drugs-you-can-take tour de france.
@@Wissenssuechtig Let's see how fast humans on bikes can REALLY be
@@Eis_ *One rule, reach the finish
From what I understand this was more or less the original intent, was to develop TASing tools and the ability to analyze runs in order to learn what works and try to improve them. The cheating scandal was merely a byproduct of the original goal, although a major one.
Kind of reminded me of Scicraft and CarpetMod. With the features CarpetMod has, giving you all the tools to observe the game, even a regular chap can optimise a farm as much as he can. Now, look at Scicraft with this tool in hand.
"Trackmania Nations Forever" gives the same vibes of "2b2t, the oldest anarchy server in Minecraft"
Ayyy Fit fam here
Now that you mention it, Fit and Wirtual do have the same kind of "highly knowledgeable player explaining cool shit in a way that even non-players can understand" energy...
@@WackoMcGoose Exactly!
Yeah
Eat a hot pepper every time FitMc says the oldest anarchy server in Minecraft.
okay so I'll write a disclaimer here about tool assisted speedruns, it's that THEY ARE NOT PERFECT! They are still bound to human errors as humans creates the TAS. Also, except in VERY rare occasions, TASes are getting beaten all the time too, just like normal speedruns! They are never perfect.
Yeah at the moment it seems the human puts in the movement like they think is best. The next step would be to have an AI try all different combinations until it finds even faster ways the runners didn't even think about. It's always fascinating what's skills people leverage into speedrunning.
if you interpret “theoretically perfect” it can mean “the fasest technically possible form, currently known” so uh
ye? pls dont get mad
@@issadraco532 you just don't get it man
Until they are created via AI assisted learning algorithms
@@issadraco532 It's not a straight up cheat, it just allows frame-by-frame input.
7:20 The 'Uberbug' reminds me _so_ much of the old 1990 game Stunts by Broderbund, where there was a bug that let you retain top speed even driving on grass after a jump, and if you hit the border fence, it could randomly shoot you hundreds of feet in the air.
That TAS guy seems pretty good. He should start streaming.
Yeah, I mean, I never got how people like dream and techno don’t stream, and only let people make compilations for them.
I met TAS once, pretty cool guy if im being honest.
I heard he is better at slowed down Trackmania then Riolu
When I first met TAS he said to me "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."
HAHAHAHAHAH WOW YOU GUYS ARE SO FUNNY
TASing is like using machines instead of hands to smith. It's more effective and is it's own world, you should not compete with machines in a human contest. But you can use those machines to improve your undestanding of the craft and use it as your own.
In other words: You may use TAS to yeet the car, but not to claim an official WR. c:
@@Eddyithink you may use TAS to find a way to beat a wr, but not to beat the wr itself.
@@jeppepuus i just said that for the rhyme mainly :c
I wish the tool was publicly available. I just want to have fun with it.
@@cubicinfinity2 Pretty sure it is, don't have the link tho.
WR: "Drives fantastically."
TAS: "Where are you going?! The goal is in *_this_* direction."
6:20 top 10 questions science still can't answer
Donadigo is a hero carrying the Trackmania community in his back and ridding it of some bad apples at the same time
So we're switching from:
"And then, he got this run."
into "And then, he got this tool assisted run."
TAS for short. in small letters at the bottom so ppl could google.
“And then, TAS got this run”
@@ChoJun69 great comment. I was completely lost before that epic clarification. Thank you, you hero.
human: this run is perfection.
Robot : hold my beer.
Wow Wirt, top tier editing and storytelling in this one. You’re so gifted at setting up and framing those “epic” moments in every video. My jaw dropped while watching that Trinity TAS
Can you stop reminding me that tortugo is kajumi please i can't handle it anymore🤣
the guy messed up. could be here celebrating his shortcut, instead he makes tiktoks...
@@Leoappeared well he makes a ton of money so not to be surprised he does them
@@Leoappeared and shitloads of money
Je prostě idiot
He is idiot :D
( kajumi )
We love Tortugo, we hate Kajumi. Sadge
I'm honestly shocked you guys haven't had TAS tools for this game yet and still have done so many insane things.
This is about to get interesting
There have been TAS even before this tool, but I believe those were a lot harder to create
@Eve I was thinking the same thing.
Was going to say the same thing. This is crazy
if i recall, the issue wasnt that they couldnt make tas tools (they existed for a while) but rather that it was too controversial to the community to release up until recently
@@olipolygon how come?
All the other games have TAS from the beginning, and they are even a very important tool for the regular record in many games.
Never once played this game and probably never will, but I love these videos 😂
12:22 that musty flick was so good (rocket league mechanic where you just do that backflip going forward)
That one guy you KNOW exists who has been specializing in learning how to consistently do nosebugs in real-time for years: "My time has come."
Man Wirtual’s vids are already amazing. I wonder what they’d be like if he made them with TAS
underrated comment
Ok i dont wanna be that person but, editing software is a tool sooo
@@Swumpiee r/whooosh
@@lknight1266 xD saw that one coming
I love the Art of Rally music in the background, fits perfectly
I don't even play this game but I love these videos so much. I have thought about why that is and I think your narration and insightful analysis on top of the fact that you inherently have access to these historical runs makes for a genius channel idea. Kudos to you Wirtual.
TAS runs are so satisfying and fun to look at :D
I am so glad that Poland has such an important person in the trackmania community. kc donadigo i Polska gurom!
Polish mountain
you guys produced a hero and also the witcher,thanks
polska guuuroom
Poland mountain!!!
Polska gurom!!
You did a great job giving a basic explanation of TAS. This is art.
Man, not only are you such a gifted creator that captivates audiences regardless of experience with Trackmania, who matches that with hard work to create some of the most in depth and intriguing content, but damn do you have good music taste too..
7:30 holy banana bread, i’m in a wirtual video!
W
good work gamer
1:08 :"TONY HAWK AINT GOT NOTHIN ON ME !"
I don't know how much work has gone into making this type of run but I would like to see a comparison of top human runs vs tas runs without inhuman bugs to see exactly how close the top runners are to the 'perfect' 'glitchless' runs.
The TAS gains time everywhere, but not much time. I think A07 (also covered on this channel) has a 0.04 difference between TAS and RTA, 26:16 vs 26:20 that is.
PabloGD: *I AM the Tool Assisted Speed-Run.*
The growth of TMInterface has been insane, great vid as always! Btw, if you wanna see those videos early, join the Patreon!
Oh that’s why
TAS players watching regular speedrunners: "Look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of your power."
Teacher: the test isnt that hard
the test: 6:08
WTH
ok wow i totally remember this game, and thought like no one ever played it, let alone years ago. yet its 2022 and people are still killing it! this is so awesome
I'm glad that Trackmania has a tool now, but I'm very surprised it took so long to make one. Like, there are some games that have had tools for a long time, and with how great Trackmania is, I'd always assumed that it had one that people just, didn't use, for some reason.
Majority of the people who played this game were teenagers though. But surprising it took so long indeed.
The thing is, compared to other games that get TAS tools, they are used when games are emulated. You don't see a 2008 game for PC being TASed often, and you need a competent programmer to make such tool who knows how the game works internally. I think this is why it took so long for TrackMania.
I like how with B-04, he didn't just find a way to pull of the theoretical shortcut, but found a way to do it even better
What I find most interesting is he came so darn close to discovering the nose boost so much earlier than it had been. You can see he's above 450 speed and his 4 nose bugs left him above 450, possibly able to go higher.
7:18 i feel like if any of these skips can be pulled off, this is the one, and i can't wait to see it done
I can't wait for the compiled replays of hundreds of attempts as an exploding cloud of cars and then one of them beelines to the finish
I love how he is talking about the curiousity to see how far could we go since we just discovered noseboost that can destroy older TAS
I hope there will be enough new records to have a new video talking about TAS revolution
Wow oh my god. So at 1:30 when the car is navigating those turns, it cuts the most beautiful racing line through the corners I've ever seen. I wonder if similar tools adjusted for more realism (slower speed, more mass, etc) would be useful for generating real-world pace notes for rallies and stuff like that. This is awesome.
Probably not because of diferences in tires heat, weather and other cars in the track
I think F1 teams run simulations to find perfect lines and car settings for given track conditions. These simulations are orders of magnitude more complex than TM tools though, because they have to account all sorts of things like wind, air pressure, temperature and moisture, track temperature etc
that part is not even TAS 😅
or maybe it is, but the human wr also has a similarly insane run
I still like the idea of slowing down time in the game just to practice, my band teacher said to start slow and get all the notes right then slowly ramp up to full speed. Even outside of insane skips I could see it being used just for practicing specific input combinations.
Maybe they could make a 1/3rd speed category
In sim racing we say "slow and steady wins the race". You don't get better by going flat out and smashing into every wall and hoping to eventually get it right.
It definitely does make a difference get used to the track first and build your confidence up to go faster. Some tracks I struggle more than others especially at high speed.
Definitely keep us posted on the new tas records. These are so fun to watch
I didn't fully believe the title at first... but these really are mindblowingly creative and unique!
I am the type of guy to always say you NEVER reach the limit. However, THIS fellas, is PEAK Trackmania performance. Congratz to Wirtual and the TM community, what a time to be alive!
aye raceta
@@jjen_ AYE :)
If you never reach your limit isn't the highest you can go your limit?
... until someone finds a better way to TAS it
I swear these runs will be done someday and everyone will freak like when the 13 year inpossible shortcut was done
I can say I hardly care about this game, but every once in a while, your videos show up in my feed, and I watch the whole thing. The way you narrate is very well done, to the point where something that doesn't really interest me, is interesting! Excellent work
I have played trackmania once, when it was on PS+, but you are such a good storyteller i'm just binging your videos
Why is the Uberbug so Funny, its like someone just hit me with a *Comically Large Spoon*
I thought it was Yububug because of the way he pronounces it
@@wilh3lmmusic omfg😂
i have a slight idea where *comically large spoon* originated from
0:58 this is both a hate crime and a love letter to TMNF fans. I got flashbacks of playing these tracks all these years ago. INSANE.
These shortcuts are soooo sick, would love to see another video about what's been done after half a year of TASing.
Found you one day scrolling on my CZcams recommendation and usually don’t like games like these but after watching your vid about you changing your name to mafu or something an tolled the leaderboard after coming in 2nd I subbed lol no regrets bro
I was just looking at your channel wondering when the next post was gonna be!! This timing was perfect
Thanks Wirtual for making these amazing videos about what has always been my favorite game since I'm a child. You're the only person I've ever supported using Patreon and I will definitely will keep doing so.
These speed runs are just stunning to watch
I don’t play this game, but I’ve found myself watching these videos whenever they come out.
I'm on the hospital rn because I have Covid, only Wirtual to make my day with a new shiny video ♥
Shit bro hope your good
wish you a speedy recovery
Hope you get better g!
Your comment made my day
Hope you have a speedy recovery!
props to Donadigo for making so many amazing tools
I'm so happy TAS exists because it means more content from Wirtual
9:03 i can't believe it, omg
Given the wonky physics engine of Trackmania, I'm surprised that it took this long for TAS to become a thing. I look forward to seeing Mario 64 levels of physics exploits where tracks will eventually be completed using primarily nosebug chains and uberbugs for movement.
*_WAWAWAWAWAHOO-ing intensifies_*
But first we need to talk about parallel universes.
8:55 he just pulled the FASTEST 180 I'VE EVER SEEN
These TAS "bug" style movements take ASDFmovie's line "pff, screw gravity!" to a whole new level
5:38 gave me a fucking heart attack😂
I love that you put Plastorex’s reaction to the video
I don't play tm but I love the content from wirtual. I know I'll probably never play this game but his content is so easy to watch all the way through. I think it's because he explains everything so thoroughly that I feel well versed in the idiosyncrasies of this game.
This looks too unreal! These shortcuts are truly amazing, too bad they aren't humanly possible (yet?). Awesome video! And you never know, maybe we will see one of these done by a human.
Dude I have never heard of this game nor do I even want to play it but these are so entertaining and I can't stop watching em
TMNF is way beyond incredible coming to finding new ways to complete tracks faster
Even as someone who plays trackmania these runs never cease to amaze me
May I just drop by to say something? Your channel recently got recommended to me and I love your style of producing the content you make, slowly working my way back into watching all of your videos from the past.
I had been familiar with TM Nations, back in 2009 or maybe even 2008, when my (then best) friend really was into playing the solo campaign and also making tracks himself. Because of the fun I had watching your videos (and still being able to recognize a lot of the tracks), I decided to give another go at it. Tonight I downloaded the game from Steam (I was surprised to see that it's still free, awesome) and played through half of it. My driving skills, after all these years... They still suck 😂
But no, in all seriousness, I'd like to thank you for reminding me of some forgotten cool moments from a later part of my childhood, a transitioning phase from just a little kid into a little teen. Nowadays I'm neither anymore, I just turned 26 last June. Thanks for making me savor these little moments in my life just a little bit more. Wishing you all the best from The Netherlands.
Once uni starts again, I’ll create a Wirtual playlist for studying. His voice is so soothing and calming :3
"Trackmania is an optimised game"
Well I thought
you though *wrong*
If you think you understand Quantumphysics, you dont understand Quantumphysics.
If you think Trackmania is optimised, it is not optimised.
what surprised me was that these shortcuts only saved like 3 seconds, like i know thats a lot for speedruns but still.
Can’t wait for part two when new tas-only discoveries are found
TAS strats are always amazing, especially in broken games. Cool to see another game ready to be cracked wide open.
in some games there is even a TAS category specifically for it to be legal there
Imagine the head start riolu could have had as an amazingly good player when not cheating and having quite some experience with TAS, albeit for the wrong reasons.
This. Some top players have been using TAS methods(on the real leaderboard) before, imagine what they could achieve.
Riolu and other top players in the cheating scandal did not use TAS. They slowed the game down and drove the times themselves. TASing in trackmania has only been possible since very recently and is far, far more convoluted than just slowing down the game.
As Jonas said, Riolu and others did not use TAS in any form, they straight up cheated for WR titles/clears and played the games with slowed down inputs etc. where TAS is completely different...
@@ChoJun69 I think we are confusing the terms here. Both could be considered a Tool Assisted Speedruns (cause they are speedruns that are assisted by external tools), but the cheated runs done with CheatEngine are bad, meanwhile purposely made TAS runs made with TMInterface by donadigo are good.
Cheated runs competed against legit players, which destroys competitiveness and leaderboards.
True TAS runs like these aren't competing with legitimate players, they are done so we can achive the best theoretical time, to see what's possible.
Wirtual I have no idea of you'll see this but I've been enjoying your content for ages and it's just awesome. Keep it up dude. Love your stuff.
Your videos are so good I can watch them over and over again, I checked and I even already liked the video, and I'd like it again if I could.
This tool is giving us good ideas of what they should do and it’s amazing
TAS only show how breakable this game is, so funny to see some of these runs
hahahaha that is WILD. i found your channel when i was bored. never heard of trackmania. i have loved your videos since. i didnt even realize that i own a copy of a trackmania game i bought in a humble bundle years ago. this tool looks savage, and donodigo if i recall was behind a bunch of brute forcing before.
After seeing this game for so many years, these runs are mind blowing to see.