Don't KILL Your Peach Harvest! | Peach Pitfalls
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2024
- Peaches are one of those crops that we absolutely love and these trees really overproduce for us here in Arizona. In fact, they're so productive it's easy to absolutely destroy your peach harvest. Today we're showing you how to keep that from happening!
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I am HOWLING at the last 60 seconds. 😂😂😂
Lori and I were having too much fun with this one!
Looks like you thinned more peaches from one tree than I did from three apple trees. I like big peaches and I can not lie. 😂
Lori wasn't ready for that one! 😂
Do you use the same spacing for your apple thinning?
@@dulce0403 no, apples grow in clusters so it's a bit different. I'll link to an episode we did on apples that may help;
czcams.com/video/dJvhNQqrMwg/video.html
Your peaches usually are really pretty.. Sometimes I really miss the old property. Especially those fig trees. The new owners really lucked out❤
The old property definitely was a very special place!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Do you ever drive by? Trust me, the new owners are gonna love figs, until they get 15 feet tall 😂🤣🤣😂 I really don't see them doing the upkeep like you and Lori...
@@telasims233 we haven't been back up that way recently, but it may be time to reach out and see how they're doing!
Excellent video. We learnt Peach thining about this section.
Glad you enjoyed this one Abid!
U did some good thinnings i always tell others "then now eat later save now lose later".
Sounds like we have the same philosophy and I like how you put that!
I aggressively thinned my peach tree last year and while it's tough chucking away more than I left on the tree, I *still* ended up with more peaches than we could use and eat and they were even tastier than the previous year's crop
It really seems counterintuitive until you see (and taste) the difference!
Someone suggested your channel to me. Really enjoying it. 🙂
Hi Duane and Lori 👋. I am about to do this on my tree. My heart drops worse than pruning on this one but I know it’s necessary. Thanks for sharing.
I have to admit, this is still tough even compared to pruning. You see all of that fruit coming off the tree and it just seems contradictory!
Are there any uses for that thinned fruit besides just composting?
@@michelletaylor1983 the pigs would probably eat them, but there's not much nutrition in them at this point, so we just compost them. Not sure if there is a culinary use for them. 🤔
Great video! Thanks for sharing and greetings from Yuma!
Howdy down in Yuma! Glad you enjoyed this one.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm my florida peach is only 63” tall. None of the fruits has cuts or punctures but there were some that were two peaches stuck together. Hopefully I will get about 10 peaches this year.
That was a great video! Useful and entertaining.
I thinned my peach and nectarine a couple of weeks ago, most of the fruit was a little larger than an almond. I had a pretty high number of doubles on both trees. Many were already grown together. If they weren't, I removed one of them. It's a gut check to pull loads of baby fruit off the tree. Last year I thinned late, and the fruit seemed small to me. Those are huge trees for only being 4 years old! I summer pruned after harvest last year for the first time every. It seemed to really make the main branches thicken up, plus I feel like they are super dense this year with lateral branches.
We have several rescue cats, some of which are self appointed yardwork supervisors.
Glad you enjoyed this one. It is hard to see all of that fruit come off the tree, but as we've both experienced, it's a necessity!
Interesting and informative video. Do they compost well or do you need to smash them up at all?
Loved to see the 🐱 helping so much. And who doesn’t love big 🍑! 😂
At this point the pit has not developed well, so they will break down very rapidly. Those cats are always ready to "help" in the orchard!
Nice farm, nice cats and peaches. I'm learning.
Cats and peaches, how often do you get that combo in a fruit tree video?? 😉
@@EdgeofNowhereFarmIts great. Even Elvis would be envious.
Good info, thanks for sharing. We went to 36F last night, so no freeze. The Capulin cherry is still in bloom, but winding down. Happy summer!
It looks like the cold weather is finally behind us, so Summer is oh so close!!
Great information, you guys!! Thank you so much for being such wonderful educators! Kyah and I owe a lot of our knowledge to your youtube channel!!
We miss you guys and we hope to be able to see you again soon and have you meet our soon to be Nova Ray Robison!! 👶🎀
Hey guys. Oh my goodness, a little one on the way. How exciting!! We stay caught up with your YT shorts, but I don't remember seeing anything about a little one. Woohoo!!!
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Yep, we sure do, and we are so excited for this chapterof our lives!! We haven't posted anything on our page as of right now, but we will soon!! Thank you for your support of our page as well!
Super helpful! Trying a Desert Gold this year that I planted in the fall. I left a few peaches. I probably should have pulled them all because the tree is so young, but I just couldn’t do it.
Pulling what looks like perfectly happy fruit really is tough to do!
Growing up, my neighbor had over a hundred acres of fruit and nut trees. I helped thin and pick ripe peaches for market and they were delicious!! Great memories watching this video! THANK YOU!!
What a wonderful memory. I'm glad we could remind you of that time!
Thank you
Glad you enjoyed this one!
My favorite peach to grow here is La Feliciana. It has such a good old fashioned peach flavor. So I tend to get greedy with my lack of thinning on them. You encouraged me to do better. 😊
Haven't heard of those varieties, but anything that tastes like a good old fashioned peach would be on my list. If you're not completely convinced, try thinning a few branches and leaving a few others to see/taste the difference. 😉
I have a two year old dwarf stock peach, last year I thinned it down to 20 peaches to promote growth, and the squirrels happily finished them off well before they got anywhere past the size of a walnut. This year I’ll let them do the work and just protect as many as I can😂
Oh my goodness, those little rascals!!
Thanks for this good info on thinning peaches. Cutest kitties ever.
Those cats are becoming masters of the orchard!
You missed mentioning pencil size limbs for fruiting wood.
Also do pre damage control, Monterey Disease Control, you will see less doubles, its common in AZ but since sending a couple to a Lab in Wash. State they indentified a fungus, root rot stuff. Never had it we always used Bacillus Stubilus for brown rot and didn't have them except for as soggy years.
I was wondering about that as well with the doubles. We usually get a few, but this year much more than typical. I was assuming the much higher moisture content.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Double Nickel LC
Serenade are products to look at, they come in Liquid, or powder, depends how you will supply, use it in drip systems, with a Mazzei Fertigation apparatus.
That’s so painful! I will be doing this to mine soon. 😢
It's tough every time, but oh so worth it!!
amazing how much you're pruning, but understandable 😋 tnx for sharing
I noticed you've put the unripe ones on a pile to compost (I assume), wouldn't the chickens eat from them? or would the stones/pits be a risk for them?
Good job 👏 👍 👌 🙌 😄 😀
Glad you enjoyed this one!
Thanks for this video and your other fruit tree care videos. I actually have peaches this year and we are past our last frost date. This year I put shade cloth over the trees in February before they were in full bloom (from our premature fake spring) and I think that protected them from the frosts that came after they bloomed. The areas that were well covered have peachlets! There is enough to need thinning. What a nice problem it is to have after losing them all to frost in prior winters due to freezes after premature warm weather when the other protection methods I tried didn't work. They are about the size of a penny or a little bigger! I think I can safely take the shade cloth protection off as the danger of actual frost has passed and get to thinning. As an aside, do you know what the pH of the soil should be? Mine is awfully acidic in the high 4s and low 5s. Also what do you fertilize your peach trees with if anything?
It sounds like you have a solid plan for those late frosts. We see them here from time to time, but it's usually not enough to cause a big problem. Our PH here is the opposite of yours (8.4), but our root stocks are chosen to be compatible with that. If you're seeing growth and production otherwise, I would assume your root stocks are taking care of that for you. As for fertilizing, we use composted pig manure on ours. Otherwise, any of the fruit tree specific fertilizers would work just fine.
Millions of peaches, peaches for me
Millions of peaches, peaches for free
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Millions of peaches, peaches for me
Millions of peaches, peaches for free🎹🎸🥁
Oh yeah, that one was running through my head the whole time too! Classic...
Baby got back! 💕 Sweet 👍🏽
I just could not get that song out of my head for some reason!! 😂
golden rule, one peach per branch, and thats it
That's a solid rule to live by. We stretch it a bit with 2-3, so we don't lose all of our harvest to the birds which always seem to find a way even through the bird netting.
I planted a Silvergem Nectarine last year and have a dozen or so blossoms on it now. Hoping to get a sample this year. (It either took some cold damage or part of the roots dried out after it was delivered, in either case it should be good next year. I also grafted an Old Mixon Free (white) peach about a month ago that's about 8" tall, so I'm going to try and not kill that for future peachy goodness.
I have not heard of those varieties before. Are they white nectarines?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Silvergem is an early (Late June-July) white nectarine developed by Rutgers. It's supposed to be fairly resistant to bacterial spot and may avoid some of the East coast pest problems. Old Mixon Free is an extremely old white peach I've heard is good. I tend to like the lower acid peaches/nectarines even though I like more balanced and/or tart in other types of fruit.
@@paul.1337 sounds like you made a solid choice. I know our white nectarine has substantially less acid than our yellow fleshed peaches.
Hi, new subscriber here. Great video! I just bought my first two peach trees, and both of them fruited and one has dropped all of It's fruits (about 15) and the other is dropping fruit, but still have about 10 left. Is it because they're small trees? I purchased them from Lowes during the fall/winter in 5 gallon containers I up-potted to a 20 gallon container until I figure out placement of all my trees in my small backyard. I'm in Georgia, zone 8b.
Ok, it sounds like the trees are stressed which can cause fruit drop. My guess is it was the up-potting that did that. Either way, you'll want to either eliminate or severely limit any fruit set and ripening until the trees are in the ground. We typically give all of our trees 1 full year in the ground before we let them fruit at all. This allows them to concentrate on establishing themselves before trying to put effort into fruit production.
Would love to know if what your weed control process is? Are you guys getting the stink net invasion out there as bad as we are here in N. Phoenix?
Yeah, we discussed this on the livestream. Weeds are EVERYWHERE including the false chamomile, etc. We haven't done an episode on it, because it's not all that exciting. We have the string trimmer, mower and ride on mower running almost every day for the past several weeks to keep them manageable. The advantage we have here is they just don't last long once the rain stops and the temps increase!
Nice video! Do you have any plans to improve the farm further? I think i could have a few ideas
Oh yes, we have a LOT of plans for the second half of the property, but the farm business has to cash flow all of it, so it will take some time. That being said, feel free to make suggestions!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm of course! My first idea would be to make biochar, it should be relatively easy to do with barrel retort system, you could use them as an amendment for the turkey patch or bedding for the pigs, and they it would increase water retention and organic matter. You could use any woody residue but you could also plant Ethiopian bamboo and use that.
My second idea would be to grow sunchokes for the pigs/goats. They would need some watering but they are very prolific and perfect for animal feed!
And finally, using ground cover plants around the property, anything that can survive there really. Geoff Lawton uses sea purslane
@@DookiePoop.69 Great suggestions! Biochar is something we're trying to figure out as we are under a permanent "fire ban" out here in the sticks. It would be a great addition. We do have sunchokes growing and will eventually expand that as we can. The pigs ADORE them!
Those cats are living the life, aren't they?
Those cats are definitely turning into quite the farm cats and they LOVE the orchards!
Hi what do you do with all of those little green peaches.?..GOD BLESS
We compost the immature peaches. There isn't much nutrition in it for the animals, but they compost up really well.
Had great peach harvests the last two season but have gotten wacked w/ leaf curl this spring. Curious: Does everyone "preventively" spray their trees for fungus in the fall/winter or just cross your fingers and hope for the best? Will be interesting to see how "leaf curl" affects growth and harvest in 2024.
We don't spray our trees here and haven't seen any issues with leaf curl. It's usually a sign of stress, so it can be many different things. Too much/too little irrigation, pests, less than ideal root stock, something in the soil. Have you seen it before?
I used to get production like you have 2-4 yrs ago. I planted Florda Prince, Deaert Gold, and mid-Pride but I’m losing my 4th and 5th peach trees, likely due to chlorosis. I replanted 2 more peach trees and amended the soil and have been watering in sulphur pellets for 2 yrs now and they all r dying. My 2 Apples, 3 apricots, and 10 citrus are doing great! What is your secret?
Wow, sorry to hear you're having those issues. No secrets here. We share exactly what we do and it's not very complicated. That being said, one of the things we try to remind everyone is you never actually know exactly what's in the soil, especially on smaller properties/lots. Home construction brings a lot of variables when it comes to the "soil" left after all of the activity. Even areas that have been open desert usually had some type of traffic running across it. Part of our property here was an unofficial quad trail before we moved onto it and we've found nails, glass and other things randomly in the ground when we dig. I'm sure at least a few vehicles broke down around here and may have left who knows what in the soil that would not be conducive to growing. Hopefully those amendments will make a difference for you! 🤞
What’s the rule of thumb for super young trees? I have some peach trees that have only been in the ground for maybe 18 months. They put on some decent fruit set this spring. Should I take them ALL off for the tree to focus on growing and setting roots?
I should have said, the tree was planted as a young bare root from the Urban Farm
As a 16 acre peach, 3 acres apricots, 4 acres cherries up in the NW I laugh at some of the video presentation, they will learn too, but leave just 2 or so, but leave them only if on a pencil size limb.
It they need support, twigs don't do it.
Depending on your rootstock, get some Monterey Disease Control, apply now, controls Pytophra, aka Root Rot, it stunts trees, comes from over watering, constantly wet feet.
We usually let the trees produce just a bit in the second year, but not much. The branching needs to be able to support the weight and the focus still needs to be on root production and tree structure.
In west 70mph winds will do this for you🤣🤣🤣
I imagine that would be the case!
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Glad you enjoyed this one!
Do you make fermented fruit fertilizer out of the thinned peaches?
No, that would take more time than we're willing to dedicate to it. I'm sure it would be a great ingredient for something like Korean Natural Farming.
You could do a jadam liquid fertilizer with water and leaf mold.
Is there a reason why you don't do the "leave one, stub one" pruning technique? You would leave one branch and stub (1-3 inches) the branch next to it. This would allow the 'leave it' branch to fruit this year and the 'stub it' branch to grow for fruiting next year. Next year you would cut the previous 'leave it' and allow the previous 'stub it' to fruit. You would alternate each year This renews the fruiting wood, otherwise your tree would keep getting wider each year from the fruiting wood.
I saw this video from orin martin.
Great question. We started something similar this past pruning season for the first time (we thinned as opposed to leaving stubs though). This year was a test to see how it's going to work, so we haven't covered it in a pruning episode yet. As far as I can tell, it's the only real viable option we have here as summer pruning causes way too much stress on our trees with our extremely hot, dry early summer months.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Also in Arizona and the fruit bearing looks great this year. Quick question-are you moving away from taking down the size of the trees after harvest, but before the heat of summer? I just don't want so much height on next year's fruiting wood. Thoughts?
@@chawn521 yes, we have moved away from Summer pruning. We found the trees were really struggling through our hot summer months without the extra foliage. We're trying a few things with Winter pruning that may help with keeping the fruiting wood low, however we have decided to let out trees get quite a bit bigger. We have the space and want to block out the neighbors!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Thanks for the insight and for the opportunity to learn along the way with you!
We have several of the butt fruits: peaches, apricot, cherry...
Ah cherries. We have tried a few of the low chill varieties here and never had them produce. We've resigned ourselves to the cherry/plum hybrids which do well for us. Just a little jealous over here!! 😉
i thought u might feed the peaches to the animals. no good for them?
The only ones that will eat these are the pigs and there's just not enough nutrition in them to make a difference. We figure they're more valuable to us as a green source for our compost.