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  • The Mysterious Stranger by Mark Twain - FULL AudioBook
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    Chapter listing:
    Chapter 1 - 0:10
    Chapter 2 - 08:40
    Chapter 3 - 25:32
    Chapter 4 - 46:32
    Chapter 5 - 52:03
    Chapter 6 - 1:17:35
    Chapter 7 - 1:43:01
    Chapter 8 - 2:20:35
    Chapter 9 - 3:01:21
    Chapter 10 - 3:12:13
    Chapter 11 - 3:39:08
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Komentáře • 219

  • @thomascampbell350
    @thomascampbell350 Před 4 lety +149

    I literally had to rewind to see if I heard “the deep sleep which follows an orgy” correct

    • @mixedgaming7265
      @mixedgaming7265 Před 4 lety +1

      yep

    • @TheRat1
      @TheRat1 Před 4 lety +1

      I thought that was funky, lol, is that really what it said?

    • @JesusMartinez-ce1zv
      @JesusMartinez-ce1zv Před 3 lety +1

      When was this said I’m on ch 10 at the moment

    • @deusexaethera
      @deusexaethera Před 3 lety +29

      "Orgy" doesn't mean group sex. It means a severe excess of _any_ kind of activity. You could, for example, describe an "all-nighter" as "an orgy of work".

    • @Fitnessat40years
      @Fitnessat40years Před 3 lety

      Me too!

  • @CidTheGargoyle
    @CidTheGargoyle Před 4 lety +120

    This guy is a much better narrator than most of the libervox recordings I've heard.

  • @documentofchange
    @documentofchange Před 3 lety +70

    This has a psychedelic feeling to it. Perception, the human condition, the frailty of humans against the tide of time, discounting the concept of free will, reality being only real to the observer. It's philosophical to the highest degree.

    • @oknar1977
      @oknar1977 Před 3 lety +4

      Try to listen this while half awake, it is mind blowing:
      Can you imagine an elephant being interested in spider, carrying whether he is happy or isn't or whether he is wealthy or poor or whether his sweetheart returns his love or not. Or whether he is looked up to in society, or not. These things can never be important to the elephant. They are nothing to him. Man is to me as the red spider is to the elephant. The elephant has nothing against the spider, he cannot get down to that remote level. The elephant is indifferent. If it came in his way and cost nothing - I have done men good service but no ill turns.

    • @cafuckinb
      @cafuckinb Před 3 lety +2

      Also, a healthy dose (or overdose for some, I'm sure) of "Screw organized religion." A good damn book.

    • @JupiterMoonTune
      @JupiterMoonTune Před rokem

      Its non-duality

    • @documentofchange
      @documentofchange Před rokem

      @@JupiterMoonTune Explain

    • @RNicolasRuvalcaba
      @RNicolasRuvalcaba Před 3 měsíci

      I agree with the psychedelic vibe. I'm 55 and I read The Mysterious Stranger 37 years ago in my late teens in the late 80's. The imagery in my minds eye while I read it was definitely influenced by growing up on The Twilight Zone, Edgar Allan Poe, Black Sabbath music, bong hits, etc. How incredible would it be to hear it narrated by Rod Serling ? Who knows, maybe with AI it will be possible one day.. czcams.com/video/FMLWXsV0E-M/video.htmlsi=Nj-gSJGs7cmmcHAN

  • @jeffmatuszak477
    @jeffmatuszak477 Před 2 lety +13

    The most important story ever written.

  • @iamjackalope
    @iamjackalope Před 3 lety +38

    Mark Twain's commentary on the plight and folly of men as expressed through, in this case Satan, is all to real. This book will always stand to remind us of just how little we have changed over the years. Granted many of the superstitions are gone but they have been replaced with other things that we pin our judgement on. I believe this book was written over a hundred years ago which doesn't speak to highly of us seeing that in that hundred years we haven't accomplished much in the old self improvement department. The saddest part about it is that as humans we are not ignorant of these things, we embrace them.

  • @jonahs.757
    @jonahs.757 Před 3 lety +26

    I've always respected and empathized with small life. My mother used to tell me of a story from her child. Her and my aunts had been caught destroying ant hills. They all got spanked, scolded, and punished. We have to be humble to be better.

  • @chonchjohnch
    @chonchjohnch Před 4 lety +143

    “She had the best head in the village” lol

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera Před 3 lety +80

    Why the hell did I have to read Tom Sawyer in high school instead of this? This is vastly more interesting.
    EDIT: Based on the ending, it appears instead of calling them "Boltzmann Brains", we should call them "Twain Brains".

    • @deusexaethera
      @deusexaethera Před 3 lety +1

      @Amon Ra: Let me guess, you're a devout Christian and this book offends your beliefs.

    • @oliversmith9200
      @oliversmith9200 Před 2 lety +4

      Because the deep Twain is not in the lesson packet or on The History Channel. For example, who has heard of his response to the Spanish American War of 1898 and it's aftermath, the anti-American imperialism essay: "Grief And Mourning In The Night"? So much of Twain is actually suppressed, left in the dark, because it could teach and radicalize us against...

    • @postplays
      @postplays Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​​@@deusexaethera
      Christian here, i find myself agreeing with nearly everything the character of Satan said regarding the way people act. Even Jesus himself was aware that the people were a bunch of dummies. He called his own disciples idiots.

    • @user-bl2lu2nx2u
      @user-bl2lu2nx2u Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@oliversmith9200❤

    • @user-bl2lu2nx2u
      @user-bl2lu2nx2u Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@oliversmith9200❤

  • @VersusArdua
    @VersusArdua Před 7 měsíci +11

    Somebody really needs to make a compilation of out of context Satan quotes from this recording, its gold lol

    • @Dustin_the_wind
      @Dustin_the_wind Před 5 měsíci +1

      Silver, dum dum.

    • @VersusArdua
      @VersusArdua Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Dustin_the_wind nobody says that.

    • @Dustin_the_wind
      @Dustin_the_wind Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@VersusArdua indeed. You would be correct in the statement, but mine would be more accurate.
      Satan isn't a fan of gold, but silver, believe it or not; finds it tacky.
      And neither should we, but if only for its conductive and reflective properties.
      That is another's prerogative..
      I apologize for my cheekiness, if taken for anything but humor.
      And I'd rather be nobody than everybody, in about most cases, makes things interesting.

    • @VersusArdua
      @VersusArdua Před 4 měsíci

      @@Dustin_the_wind fair enough, man. I understand that

  • @noname-by3qz
    @noname-by3qz Před rokem +26

    You have to give Twain credit. One of the only American icons who seemed to really love his wife and family, and stayed married to the same woman.

    • @angell6425
      @angell6425 Před 5 měsíci

      wasnt he a pedo that collect a bunch on kids?

  • @Debaser1990
    @Debaser1990 Před rokem +13

    This was outstanding. I haven't read much of Twain, but I'll certainly be fixing that.

    • @isabelracine1066
      @isabelracine1066 Před rokem +3

      I’ll do you one better: read No. 44.
      It’s the official version of this story Twain tried to finish.
      *This* version was cobbled together by his editor.

  • @RasberrySkittle
    @RasberrySkittle Před 3 lety +16

    Beatiful narration. Something tells me this was how it was intended to read.

  • @katiecoollady
    @katiecoollady Před 9 měsíci +6

    "Life is but a dream"

  • @robertsides3626
    @robertsides3626 Před 4 lety +68

    Did I mention this takes place in Austria? Because It's in Austria. Austria.

    • @Adam-de8jm
      @Adam-de8jm Před 3 lety +11

      The books setting in Austria is important because it is set in Austria, where the events of the book take place. (In Austria of course).

    • @2Hot2
      @2Hot2 Před 3 lety +2

      It's prophetic as the birthplace of Hitler, who had similar views of "Untermenschen" and had similar mesmerizing effects on the common people. It's also prophetic with respect to communism and other ideologies that view individual suffering to be trivial. And they both clearly take Jehovah as a role model, although they claim to be atheist. Maybe the most intelligent work of fiction to ever come out of America.

    • @sarahdixon6011
      @sarahdixon6011 Před 3 lety +1

      Where?

    • @denol8391
      @denol8391 Před 2 lety

      @@sarahdixon6011 Mexico

    • @sarahdixon6011
      @sarahdixon6011 Před 2 lety +1

      @@denol8391 Thanks 😊

  • @lemat7273
    @lemat7273 Před 2 lety +12

    very good narrator, I enjoyed listening to him

  • @renegadegrizzlybear7696
    @renegadegrizzlybear7696 Před 3 lety +72

    TWAIN was inspired to write this book after meeting Nikola Tesla the two established a friendship that lasted for years

    • @peanutbutterjelle
      @peanutbutterjelle Před 3 lety +4

      Really? I mean I knew of their friendship but had no idea Tesla was the inspiration for this.

    • @mana_beast_beats1114
      @mana_beast_beats1114 Před 3 lety +4

      They're ~ALL~ your hats, Mr. Twain....

    • @kickin8078
      @kickin8078 Před 2 lety +2

      Proof that 😀

    • @lemarz8006
      @lemarz8006 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kickin8078 there is a picture of the two together! its amazing

    • @TuberoseKisser
      @TuberoseKisser Před 2 lety +2

      I thought it was because he lost his family but okay random and unproven internet comment.

  • @WiseOwl_1408
    @WiseOwl_1408 Před rokem +5

    Twain is an interesting guy. Said a ton of interesting and insightful things but also seemed to be very snyd and anger about many things. Very human

    • @Phukugoooglification
      @Phukugoooglification Před 6 měsíci

      IMO Kurt Vonnegut Jr. was a Samuel Clements fanboy.

    • @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962
      @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 Před 3 měsíci

      When your little brother is killed in a riverboat explosion---after many painful days of grasping onto life--- you become bitter about the world.

  • @battlefront390x
    @battlefront390x Před 4 lety +18

    Beautiful Red Pill, Just finished it July 1st 11:40.
    Thank you Mark Twain for the wisdom and Knowledge this story has to offer.

    • @AntiCommunistMarine
      @AntiCommunistMarine Před 3 lety

      A red pill to?

    • @oliversmith9200
      @oliversmith9200 Před 2 lety

      Indubitably, and if I may, if you haven't already, find his "Greif And Mourning In The Night", and there will be found a political side of the writer we never see on The History Channel or get in the school lesson packet.

  • @IchBinJager
    @IchBinJager Před rokem +5

    This was a great book, wonderful to see there's an AudioBook of it!

  • @ChuckFury
    @ChuckFury Před 2 lety +14

    I want to say, "How is this not Twain's most celebrated work?" But as soon as I think it, I know. The entire book is blasphemy to the pious, too fantastical for the reductionist, and Chapter 11 too disturbing to those of us who have had such thoughts.

  • @MrCraigblaze
    @MrCraigblaze Před 3 lety +6

    Thanks for the upload !! ❤️

  • @mistercastileyourgirl
    @mistercastileyourgirl Před 5 měsíci +1

    49:14 is where I left off. Thoughts: listening to this because of the Mysterious Stranger from Red Dead Redemption and because I listened to a story by Isaac Babel and was recommended this. Really fascinating so far, excited to listen to more.

  • @heyitMeMcFlyunfortunately
    @heyitMeMcFlyunfortunately Před 3 lety +33

    "this a libravox recording"
    is the most dreaded phrase associated with audiobooks
    however, this recording is quite good

    • @apexalaska
      @apexalaska Před 3 lety +9

      Why? I dont listen to many audiobooks but I've listened to 3 or 4 libravox recordings and so far they have all been equally as good as this one.

    • @ashwhiteforest9078
      @ashwhiteforest9078 Před rokem

      It's good. *Damn* good.

    • @VersusArdua
      @VersusArdua Před 7 měsíci

      But I like Libravox...

  • @orcashadow8989
    @orcashadow8989 Před 4 lety +11

    I think, therefore I am.

  • @dixieflatline9772
    @dixieflatline9772 Před 4 lety +43

    Oh no not Father Adolf!

    • @wokeeye6441
      @wokeeye6441 Před 3 lety +1

      This was 1590. I would not be surprised however. Hitler certainly looked like he was about 400 years old when he assumed the leadership of Germany, the sexy moustache notwithstanding.

    • @hardluck8732
      @hardluck8732 Před 3 lety +1

      I call him Uncle A.

  • @SnakeAndTurtleQigong
    @SnakeAndTurtleQigong Před rokem +1

    Thanks so much!

  • @AEZMKURST
    @AEZMKURST Před 4 lety +7

    Great story

  • @ronaldvronca8999
    @ronaldvronca8999 Před 3 lety +5

    I wouldn't even consider listening to Twain if not read by Mark Greenland .....I'm almost convinced Greenland is Twain himself.

  • @queen_of_swords7671
    @queen_of_swords7671 Před rokem +7

    Awareness.. that was Adam and Eve’s “sin”.. awareness gives humans the moral compass to understand right and wrong and the knowledge that they in fact have free will.. awareness to understand that what is being done to humanity is evil regardless of who is doing it.. the angels don’t have that awareness this is why they just follow orders.. “and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free” once you are truly awake, the world and “the heavens” will never look the same..

    • @Dustin_the_wind
      @Dustin_the_wind Před 5 měsíci

      Take solace in that you will soon see what it means, in what you just said.
      It is true. The bell will soon toll.
      I met with the card maker. It handed me the fool, the two of swords, the ace of pentacles, the wheel, and the world.

    • @Dustin_the_wind
      @Dustin_the_wind Před 5 měsíci

      Over, and over... and over.
      And over.. impossibility over.

  • @kief4diamonds
    @kief4diamonds Před rokem

    Masterful

  • @khepri3266
    @khepri3266 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Satan’s monologues go so hard

  • @redmercury1159
    @redmercury1159 Před 4 lety +6

    the only difference is that we shed our mortal coil and become spirits. using satans logic, there really is no difference between man and spirit. in fact, i venture to say that it is a step up because we do not have to love God should we not choose to. angels face a very harsh punishment if they go against God. we have something that even the angels were not allotted. and that is Gods forgiveness and unconditional love. God put man above even the angels. for it is known that the righteous among us shall judge angels. i think mr twain really did a wonderful job with this character. i imagine what it must be like pondering the boundaries of good and evil and indifference. it is refreshing to see such a robust character with so many interesting capabilities. i really wish mark had written more dark stuff!

    • @xchi6581
      @xchi6581 Před 3 lety

      CS Lewis wrote that man is the combination of animal and spirit. The mixture disgusts the spirits

  • @beanieweenie1349
    @beanieweenie1349 Před 4 lety +13

    Who else is here after watching that clip from The Adventures of Mark Twain? czcams.com/video/Ntf5_ue2Lzw/video.html

  • @gladeloy3341
    @gladeloy3341 Před 2 lety +2

    only 20 minutes in & enjoying it.
    please do "Letters from Earth" also .

  • @alcosmic
    @alcosmic Před 8 měsíci +2

    for I knew
    and realized
    that all he had said
    was true

  • @rogerevans9666
    @rogerevans9666 Před 2 lety +2

    @2:23:23 great narrator

  • @orc121498
    @orc121498 Před 3 lety +5

    3:40:30 best part

  • @keveakshipsail9073
    @keveakshipsail9073 Před 2 lety +7

    I really like this book because its just some kids and an angel is like "pfft. Ima fuck up their whole world view. lel."

  • @heyitMeMcFlyunfortunately

    my favorite part of the comments is the
    pseudo intellectuals trying to 'explain' Twain
    to us doofuses

  • @The_Petey
    @The_Petey Před 4 lety +6

    53:26 Sounds like Master Xehanort

  • @isabelrather1166
    @isabelrather1166 Před rokem

    I like this guy

  • @orc121498
    @orc121498 Před 3 lety +2

    3:28:00 facts

  • @savanah4656
    @savanah4656 Před 5 lety +14

    1:07:08

  • @goochpunchtickles3617
    @goochpunchtickles3617 Před měsícem

    I read an interview with Nikola Tesla where he said Twain wrote this story about him.

  • @christinemartin63
    @christinemartin63 Před rokem +1

    I just finished The Master and Margarita and thought the Satan visit was an original idea. I guess not. Intriguing ... inspired by Goethe's Faustus, I imagine. Twain told the truth ... and we thought it was hell (apologies to Truman.)

  • @Mannnnnnnn
    @Mannnnnnnn Před 3 lety

    Calm

  • @katherinelydon7306
    @katherinelydon7306 Před rokem +2

    Well, that was a disturbing ending. Certainly provides food for thought and that’s alright if all I am is a thought!

    • @PostNostalgos
      @PostNostalgos Před 11 měsíci

      I just finished listening and was shocked by the ending but not taken by complete surprise. I've had thoughts of this reality being akin to a "black mirror" - where we are living in a complete void that reflects our senses in order to create the reality.
      I have a video about it on my channel.

    • @Phukugoooglification
      @Phukugoooglification Před 6 měsíci

      Fart in the wind.

  • @RNicolasRuvalcaba
    @RNicolasRuvalcaba Před 3 měsíci +1

    I agree with the psychedelic vibe. I'm 55 and I read The Mysterious Stranger 37 years ago in my late teens in the late 80's. The imagery in my minds eye while I read it was definitely influenced by growing up on The Twilight Zone, Edgar Allan Poe, Black Sabbath music, bong hits, etc. How incredible would it be to hear it narrated by Rod Serling ? Who knows, maybe with AI it will be possible one day.. czcams.com/video/FMLWXsV0E-M/video.htmlsi=Nj-gSJGs7cmmcHAN

  • @thrakerzad5874
    @thrakerzad5874 Před 3 lety

    2:45:44 bookmark

  • @ArtByCole
    @ArtByCole Před rokem +1

    I absolutely love this and thank you for posting it. I only have 1 main criticism. It is the stationary image.. It's rare for modern TVs to get screen burn, but it is still possible. This video is over 3hrs long with half of the stationary image consisting of pure white.

  • @domierrodriguez2005
    @domierrodriguez2005 Před 3 lety

    1:07:37

  • @mrRufffnTumble
    @mrRufffnTumble Před 4 lety +10

    2:49:23 you are just NOW losing confidence in his judgements? Satan's idea of doing someone a favor is having them die in an unbelievably painful way, and you are just now starting to second guess him? Lol
    sheesh these boys are a bit slow on the uptake.

  • @bonnie5546
    @bonnie5546 Před 2 lety

    Dang et - volume is so low on my device I can barely hear it. Thanks for uploading anyway.

  • @michaelmarkmartiniii6489
    @michaelmarkmartiniii6489 Před 4 lety +9

    Would be better if the volume was turned up high enough to hear. Great book.

    • @oknar1977
      @oknar1977 Před 3 lety

      and - or turn automatic YT subtitles

  • @BellowDGaming
    @BellowDGaming Před 4 lety +6

    Seems like in the end Satan is talking to the human as he were God that is in nothingness then created everything and distorting it to the human that it's really nothing to live for, for you're in an empty void without anything and saying God can create good children and bad ones but made more bad ones, remember the devil has lies and do not believe, because you cannot spell believe without a lie that's why put Good Faith first before anything else.

    • @nottt5203
      @nottt5203 Před 3 lety +1

      [Heavily edited]
      l identify the self as an individual human person that 'should do this and not that' yet the novel explains how illusory the self is, how the moral sense obfuscates an individual's ability to identify that the self is a persistent illusion. That God as we know Him is behind an illusive filter. This book brings to the surface how people think about doubting faith.

    • @nottt5203
      @nottt5203 Před 3 lety

      @Alpha Shepherd Reading back my response, it was pretty heavy-handed. Completely re-edited it. I wrote it in a stressful environment. Sorry

    • @sumrose7972
      @sumrose7972 Před 2 lety

      @Alpha Shepherd how pleasant to see this exchange. Both of you did service in this flophouse called the comment section. Bravo to you both, always refreshing to see strangers make better of a situation. Happy Holidays!

  • @miriamandrei2479
    @miriamandrei2479 Před 3 lety +4

    Parabéns pela iniciativa! Queria muito encontrar em português

  • @nathaniel4455
    @nathaniel4455 Před 3 lety +1

    2:00:00

  • @matthew2h2o40
    @matthew2h2o40 Před 3 lety

    3:43:00

  • @donnykafkaesquianis7518
    @donnykafkaesquianis7518 Před 3 měsíci

    Wow, 3:10:00 so true

  • @noahhecker6672
    @noahhecker6672 Před 2 lety

    1:33:05

  • @TheBlueMan117
    @TheBlueMan117 Před 2 měsíci

    37:09

  • @name7934
    @name7934 Před 8 měsíci

    Bookmark for myself: 8:38

  • @overlex
    @overlex Před 2 lety

    1:28:00

  • @matthew2h2o40
    @matthew2h2o40 Před 3 lety

    59:54

  • @alis1079
    @alis1079 Před 3 lety

    01:00:00
    01:10:00

  • @genevaconventionsviolator3994

    25:25 bookmark

  • @LyricNear
    @LyricNear Před 3 lety +8

    Ah my favorite. Literary fraud. The best genre. Too bad we haven't gotten an audiobook of the real version.

    • @LyricNear
      @LyricNear Před 2 lety +4

      @Jared Jams The mysterious stranger wasn't released within Twain's lifetime, and there people in charge of publishing it. When his full drafts were released it was discovered that this version had been so heavily edited by the people in charge of cleaning it up for publishing it's no longer considered his work and is literary fraud. There is another version "No.44 The Mysterious Stranger" which is the proper edition as Twain intended.

    • @sumrose7972
      @sumrose7972 Před 2 lety +2

      @@LyricNear thank you for bringing this to my attention, I am now listening to this version, but reading No. 44. Quite a difference.

    • @LyricNear
      @LyricNear Před 2 lety +2

      @@sumrose7972 Indeed! It's very interesting. While the plot of the Eseldorf version *was* taken from Twain's earlier drafts, the version he was closest to finishing was the printshop one.

    • @sumrose7972
      @sumrose7972 Před 2 lety

      @@LyricNear and to find that there were four unfinished, but nearly, different drafts. It reminds me of Stanley Kubrick's last movie, Eyes Wide Shut.. I refuse to watch it as I know that what is is no where to what it was. I almost tend to believe it was no accident he died, as there were rumors that much was exposed in the original picture.. and now we are left with a hollow and greatly disturbed movie, that I refuse to even consider as one of his. So unfortunately, this was probably not the first time a dead man's works were tampered with and certainly will not be the last . Twain was right we are a silly race, he was so right about so many things.

    • @kunglao3381
      @kunglao3381 Před 2 lety +2

      @@sumrose7972 hi what difference is in no 44

  • @thiesbongers
    @thiesbongers Před 2 lety

    12:00

  • @destaniedillard1001
    @destaniedillard1001 Před 2 lety

    Hi

  • @overlex
    @overlex Před 2 lety +2

    I like to think this is being narrated by Alan Rickman (Proff.Snape)

  • @Eltopshottah
    @Eltopshottah Před 3 lety +2

    3:42:09 what I had to tell my EX

  • @sporkcunt8100
    @sporkcunt8100 Před rokem

    7:40 margett had the best head in the village

  • @elvisparker4691
    @elvisparker4691 Před 4 lety +5

    I haven't read this yet, but am about to. ALL LIBRIVOX RECORDING ARE TOO QUIET !!! You MUST Make Them Louder !!! 'Cant even hear them with earbuds ! 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

  • @catenthusiast4194
    @catenthusiast4194 Před 6 měsíci

    7:28

  • @JSTNtheWZRD
    @JSTNtheWZRD Před 2 lety

    Which version, the bull version or the correct version without the devil

    • @VersusArdua
      @VersusArdua Před 7 měsíci

      How does this story even work without the Satan character? It's like the whole crux of the narrative

  • @Zero-te9rw
    @Zero-te9rw Před 4 lety +14

    Satans powers are pretty cool but his philosophy and set of morals are too simply flawed and lack a lot of subtly other than "I dunno better", hopefully, nobody takes it too seriously, since the concepts brought up are ideas that take a lot of emotional maturity to understand.
    Mabey it's a little too hard for me to understand the ending, but yeah how people perceive reality can only be subjective, and I can really see how Mark struggled to incorporate such a Mary Sue natured character, the concept of such a character sure is interesting!

    • @lieutenantwalrus860
      @lieutenantwalrus860 Před 4 lety +9

      I think his perspective on humans was really eye opening. Satan describes how the moral sense is what makes humans weak. We humans determine what is right or what is wrong, but we can't agree with each other on just that. Everyone thinks that their morals are superior opposed to others, when in reality right and wrong are only figments of every individual. Cosmically speaking, there is no such thing as right or wrong. Everything "wrong" in the universe is simply what we deem it to be, and even that we'll argue over. Satan can't see what's right or what's wrong, but he sees the hypocrisy of the human race. We often do what we think is wrong, and we often fail to do what we think is right. If every human in the world had the power of Satan, we would shape our own worlds by what we think is right and what we think is wrong. Satan is Satan, because he doesn't have any morals, nothing is right or wrong to him. Everything that takes place are simply events that occur, and the consequences of such events mean nothing to him. I think Satan is brilliant, because he is a being with humanity removed from him. You can't really call his morals flawed, because he doesn't have any morals. He just calls out humans for contradicting their own.

    • @Zero-te9rw
      @Zero-te9rw Před 4 lety +1

      @@lieutenantwalrus860 I was mostly referring to when he would unfairly interfere with people's lives sometimes causing them to go to hell, like what?
      People are shaped by their environment, and avoiding circumstances where you would do wrong by chance doesn't make anyone a better person. But at the end he goes on about how neither hell and heaven exist so I'm not sure about that.
      Morals are subjective to people's own unique human experience but there is always a lesser evil, and empathy allows humanity to recognize this. Just because an omnipotent being can't be fucked to care about the consequences of their actions and inaction(especially when he can experience pleasure and anger), doesn't make them objectively neutral. Being a bad person does not become exempt from criticism because of the subjective nature of morality.
      Humans are primitive, impulsive, and ignorant, by that nature they are innocent, and it's unfair to compare their emotional maturity (especially in medieval Europe LOL) to an op unfeeling alien.

    • @lieutenantwalrus860
      @lieutenantwalrus860 Před 4 lety

      @@Zero-te9rw That is true, but I think Twain's whole purpose of The Mysterious Stranger is to present the goods and the bads of human morality via contrasting with Satan. Twain pulls the audience out of their moral selves, and examines human nature from an outsiders point of view. The book takes the perspective of Theodore, who is supposed to be the audience in this case. Satan shows Theodore the possibilities of multiple outcomes, and bluntly explains to Theodore the shortcomings of the moral sense. Theodore reacts to Satan's actions how most normal humans would react. And throughout the book we see how the moral sense can be a good thing, and Satan even says so himself, but ultimately is an awful thing. Humans contradict their morals all of the time, and live by lying. I think the character of Satan serves a very interesting outsiders perspective on humans. You're right that he's not perfectly neutral, but his philosophies and "morals" make sense, because they're justified. All you need are the billions of examples of humans being awful throughout history to prove his point. At the same time, there are billions of examples of humans being fantastic and beautiful. But If I were an Angel, and I had no human morals, I would come to the conclusion that Satan came to as well. Because humans are mostly nonsensical, illogical, emotional, and stupid.

    • @Zero-te9rw
      @Zero-te9rw Před 4 lety +4

      ​@@lieutenantwalrus860 It seems like a stretch to say his actions are justified, they are almost predatory, like an adult calling a child an idiot because they are a child lol. Sorry, but to me, it's naive to say because the positive and negative outcomes of having a moral sense are 50/50 it's ultimately a truly awful thing.
      It would be nice to be an ignorant blissful animal like an elephant, but with a grater, intelligence comes great opportunity, and with opportunity comes power- like Satan being able to mess around with little kids so they give him compliments.
      But with power comes responsibility. Like we have a responsibility to not rape and kill others because it's how we'd deserve and like to be treated as cognitive animals, but an omnipotent alien with the ability to make the earth living heaven doesn't because he lacks the mental capacity to sympathize with less intelligent sentient beings because he can't comprehend "human morals"? He proves nothing and ultimately achieves nothing, has power but claims no responsibility, points out the hypocrisy of humans but fails to understand why. Only points fingers and calls out the obvious.
      "lol this baby is so stupid it can't even walk WHAT A RETARD"
      We've only begun to try and understand our universe and OURSELVES as a species, along the way, being hindered by people like satan themselves that parade power yet no accountability, it's the price we pay for the privilege that is having the power of a moral sense, simply because power comes at a cost and that cost is gr8 responsibility, a cost so many of us struggle to comprehend because during our history it's always been a privilege to not be bigoted and ignorant, to be educated and find understanding outside religion and animalistic impulsivity that still flows through our blood because we are human. If it were easy everyone would do it and being an idiot is EASY. Even so, we've still found a way to continually evolve and improve as a society and 'race'.
      Anyways that's why I think his perspective of human moral sense to me is so blatantly short-sighted, especially within the historical context of the characters involved. Whenever he ended a big speech I always thought 'that's so blatantly ignorant'.
      -I know this is a big wall of text and more than I thought I would write when I started, this sort of character is especially intriguing to me and I honestly think it's a super cool way for people to start thinking about morality and the concept of human sympathy, thanks for having this convo w/ me.

    • @Zero-te9rw
      @Zero-te9rw Před 4 lety +1

      ​@Fros-T13 lmao so edgy, who's to say because life doesn't amount to some grater purpose that it's meaningless? In fact, to me that makes it even more meaningful, my elephant analogy was a reference to what Satan said (did YOU read the book?) about an elephant not caring about the spider.
      Satan simply fails to realize that if he were human he would want a grater being to help make his life better because he's apathetic and lacks empathy, humans have a reason to be 'evil' but that same reason makes them immune to his criticism. The entire book ends up not making sense because it recognizes that morals are a thing made by God, but people go to hell via pre-determined destiny's, how can you punish someone for something you know they're being set up to do?
      Satan doesn't get to claim the 'intellectual high ground' because he comes from a predetermined place of privilege he never had to earn, humans are animals that gradually continue to learn the importance of moral responsibility and accountability for their actions FROM 0.
      Every sentient intellectual being has a responsibility to do the greater good and take responsibility for their actions because they would benefit from the same treatment. No sentient existence is subjectively pointless, because there is no point, do you understand how that doesn't make sense? Morals can't be monopolized because they are inherently subjective but can always be reasoned towards the greatest good. It would make more sense if he outright said he was an asshole and said he didn't care about humanity because it wouldn't benefit him, at least then he could more believably claim ignorance.
      A manliness momentary existence can be subjectively more meaningful, that an infinite one because that same unique singular experience. Satan isn't a perfectly neutral and that's what makes him bullshit, how can he recognize what a good action is and fail the see his responsibility to do good? Like I said, the entire book ends up making no sense because Satan is a flawed character that's lazily excused via his failure to recognize context.
      A negative perception of reality isn't any more valid then an optimistic and positive one, because recognizing reality cannot be inherently negative.

  • @eugenefried5609
    @eugenefried5609 Před 3 lety +1

    so u see i can't be honest at all for nothing i have ever done was for the betterment of anything at all

    • @VersusArdua
      @VersusArdua Před 7 měsíci

      What the hell are you talking about Eugene you loonball bastard? I don't get it, or any of your other comments here either for a matter of fact..

  • @Acrosurge
    @Acrosurge Před rokem

    Ah, Twain. How easy it is to denounce any person, mortal or god, by myopic examination.

  • @documentofchange
    @documentofchange Před měsícem

    Ah we we we we we

  • @mana_beast_beats1114
    @mana_beast_beats1114 Před 3 lety +1

    Number 44, New Series 864,962....

    • @DavidLS1
      @DavidLS1 Před 3 lety +1

      One of my all-time favorite movies.

  • @eugenefried5609
    @eugenefried5609 Před 3 lety

    but i can tell you if you knew how to listen but how can a chimera have purpose? a listener would listen for a purpose i did say that

  • @theodorosthethotsbane6554

    "Father Adolf"
    _Nein?!_

  • @adlerhaaland3507
    @adlerhaaland3507 Před 3 lety

    Comments are 666 rn jeez!

  • @overlex
    @overlex Před 2 lety

    2:04:00 Satan’s comparison to us

  • @eugenefried5609
    @eugenefried5609 Před 3 lety +1

    i believe according to mark twains terminology it would in fact be australia just another spiteful slur upon happiness what did you think of

  • @placeholderdoe
    @placeholderdoe Před 5 měsíci

    55:34 I left off

  • @jokerbookshop
    @jokerbookshop Před 2 lety +2

    this book is about the devil visiting mankind.

  • @eugenefried5609
    @eugenefried5609 Před 3 lety +2

    ps he was never mysterious to me nor his world of phony wastrels

    • @susandelongis885
      @susandelongis885 Před 2 lety +4

      I don’t believe the stranger is who you seem to think he is.

  • @Ryan-oi6cp
    @Ryan-oi6cp Před rokem

    This was a great book. Though I do have a question.Was the ending just Mark Twain talking to the fourth wall of his view of reality? Because Satan the angel said he was the nephew of the satan down there, And said that some of the characters we’re going to heaven. Plus he’s a literal angel. Why at the end say there’s no heaven, what was the point of doing what he did to everybody that he killed? And him say oh what’s the point of them having a few more miserable more years here on Earth if their just going to suffer and might as well let them get into heaven early. And at the end say naw it all Isn’t real. Other than that this was a really good book I should go and check out other Mark Twain stories.

    • @FireEverLiving
      @FireEverLiving Před rokem +1

      My interpretation is that you're meant to constantly question the nature of Satan throughout the entire work. Is he good, evil, or beyond such ideas? Is he *the* Satan, or just the nephew of Satan as he says? Is he telling the truth in the end, or have we witnessed the corruption of an innocent soul via the cardinal sin of despair? Etc. It's all left ambiguous, up to the reader to decide - it's supposed to make you actively think about and engage with the work, changing your mind several times as you read and reread it.

    • @Ryan-oi6cp
      @Ryan-oi6cp Před rokem

      @@FireEverLiving thank you, I very much appreciate the reply. What other story of Mark Twain should I give a listen to other than Huckleberry Finn and A Christmas Carol. Does he have any other works that question existence or have any philosophy questions? Again thank you for the reply.

    • @FireEverLiving
      @FireEverLiving Před rokem

      @@Ryan-oi6cp I haven't read a lot of Twain, so I don't know, sorry. One non-Twain short story that comes to mind as being similar in terms of its existentialist themes is Dostoyevsky's Notes from the Underground; you might give that a try.

    • @Ryan-oi6cp
      @Ryan-oi6cp Před rokem

      @@FireEverLiving ok thank you

  • @Dustin_the_wind
    @Dustin_the_wind Před 5 měsíci

    Don't read these comments. Any youtube comment sections really.
    A.I bots, troll smile and nods, misinformation and distraction; with a few good helpful posts sprinkled throughout.
    Just listen to the story, learn, put together and reverse engineer. Trust me.
    And while life is but a dream, it is and isn't as Satan said, for that is it's final master trolling script; if you got that far, it means you're so close.
    To be fair, I'm stuck at the door myself; but at least I found it? Morbid chuckle.
    Try and stay strong, I know it is tough.
    Ive been getting my ass kicked going on two years now, for going against the grain. I was going to write this book myself actually, because why wouldn't I; but it has already been written, and ironically shown to me. I didn't seek it out.
    Wonder who did that..
    The master wordsmith of interconnectivity. The big, big, joker.
    Credit where credit is due.

  • @oknar1977
    @oknar1977 Před 3 lety +36

    This section explains, when you are happy - that feeling vaporize very quickly. And
    This also explains "life is a strange thing, just when you think you know how to use it , it's gone": ;
    - Oh Satan, then how could you do these thins?
    - You belong to a singular race. Every man is suffering machine and a happiness machine combined. The two functions work together harmoniously with a fine and delicate precision on give and take principle. For every happiness turned out in the one department, the other stands ready to modify it with a sorrow or a pain, maybe a dozen. In most cases the man's life is about equally divided between happiness and unhappiness. When this is not the case, the unhappiness predominates, always. Never the other. Sometimes a man's make and disposition are such that his misery machine is able to do nearly all the business. Such a man goes through life almost ignorant of what happiness is. Everything he touches, everything he does brings a misfortune upon him.

  • @thanosgaming9942
    @thanosgaming9942 Před rokem +1

    "He was gay"

    • @WiseOwl_1408
      @WiseOwl_1408 Před rokem +1

      Always funny to hear older readings. Words change meaning a ton it seems.

  • @ablee6215
    @ablee6215 Před 3 měsíci

    Such a negative view about human race, God, and universe! Why believe Satan telling the truth? If everything is a dream? Then what is dream?

  • @colemanadamson5943
    @colemanadamson5943 Před 4 lety +5

    Not a good voice.

  • @oknar1977
    @oknar1977 Před 3 lety +3

    Mind blowing:
    These things can never be important to the elephant. They are nothing to him. Man is to me as the red spider is to the elephant. The elephant has nothing against the spider, he cannot get down to that remote level. The elephant is indifferent.
    -
    Man's mind clumsily and tediously and laboriously pathes little trivialities together gets a result such as it is. My mind creates. Do you get the force that creates anything it desires and in a moment creates without material. Creates fluids, solids, colors, anything, everything of the airy nothing.

  • @domierrodriguez2005
    @domierrodriguez2005 Před 3 lety +1

    48:20

  • @Wtyandell
    @Wtyandell Před 7 měsíci

    2:03:00

  • @lazybill5830
    @lazybill5830 Před 12 dny

    47:33

  • @icecreamsandwich652
    @icecreamsandwich652 Před 4 měsíci

    57:16