Man Overboard under sail - the Quick Stop method
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2016
- We filmed the Quick Stop method of getting back to a man overboard from a drone. This one is recommended by RORC and other bodies, but somewhat controversially involves a gybe and picking up the casualty to windward. Check out our other videos to see the standard reach-tack-reach method, picking up under power and using a lifesling.
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Really good video but 2 issues: fine to gybe like that in low wind dingy/small boat (no offence), but on a 40+fter with any kind of blow, that gybe would have destroyed half your rigging. Next point is you picked up the casualty down wind of him. So you'd end up being blown off and likely you'd go down wind faster than he would. I couldn't really see any benefit of this over the RYA method (for YM) under sail. Control the Gybe by bringing it in and come up wind of the casualty, avoid a dead run (it wasn't necessary) and this is a great technique (but basically the same as most people will have learned for Day Skipper through to Yacht Master.
Personally would do a tack rather than gybe. If you have crew running around the boat a tack is safer. Also, why not turn on the engine and use it on the approach?
That was quick. Fine for gentle sea states. 🙌
Very clear video. Drone footage is really helpful. I did wonder about all that gybing if there was a bit of a blow though.
I think if I gybe my boat like that in 20 knots of wind the rig will come down. I don't think there's really a one size fits all for MOB, it's nice to learn all of these
Personally if someone fell off my boat, I would instantly heave to. The boat would stop instantly and drift down on the mob. Also when Hove to its easy to reduce sail and gives time to assess the situation. Also it's a much easier solution for novices. This is one of the first things I told my girlfriend. She knows now automatically all she has to do is bring the boat over. She does get a bit insulent if it's complicated, however it's always worth the time. I mostly go sailing on my own because my girlfriend said that I am too "authoritative"
She calls me "Capitane", cheeky whenche.. however I am of the notion that one needs to practice these things. When the wind is blowing hard , I will heave to for reefing, especially when reaching and running. With a good boat any point of sail is always pleasurable.
That's an interesting suggestion; may try that next time I practice. - Big Aloha!
Very well produced video.... Drone really shows what's going on.
Could you upload some records of this method with 5-6B and 2-3m of sea? First "spontanoues" tack or actually drift when fighting with rudder, then somehow "uncontrolled" gybe... It would be very interest, at the moment it is good method for "sunday" sailing with 2-3 and flat sea. Or am I wrong?
I was taught to go figure 8. No gybing at any point and you bring the boat to irons windward of the MOB. Might be something to consider as an alternative to the gybe shown in this video especially if short handed
You are Correct , except that if you do the figure 8 at some point of it you will be Gybing
@@stealhty1 I don’t think that’s true. You can do all tacks.
Great video, easy to understand!
Thanks for the video. This I guess is made for racing crews? This system is hardly viable for the average cruising couple
Drop your forward jib ????
What about going downwind?
I see several people here saying this is "WRONG!". So why does the RORC recommend it? Are they a bunch of amateurs? Or are do they assume extreme competence, so that gybing can be done without risk?
I should think that RORC probably recommend that you do a controlled gybe. Just letting the boom swing over under power when people in the cockpit are panicking and focussing on the person in the water, will quite likely result in a fatal head injury to anyone who's standing up and in the path of the boom as it swings, but if you manage to get away with that, then it will probably damage your rigging in any case. control the gybe by centring the main before turning. You already have one major problem with the person in the water. Having another person with a serious head injury (or worse), who may now also be in the water is the last thing you need.
Is this the recommended way to rescue a man overboard? Without engine?
The man overboard recovers by leeward ...
do it with no rudder 30 knots of breeze you can buy body bags on ebay
or start the engine
Main should be all the way in until you head up to recover.
Your missing so many of the finer points on a quick stop which is leaving open to some of the picking apart in the comments. The picking i will provide is the demo boat was no where near stopped as it made contact with the casualty.
causality
Looks a bit hideous to me. Having the casualty on the windward side is an awful, awful idea. On the leeward side they are sheltered from the wind/waves and you can easily use the boom as a hoist to pull them up, also as your bow gets blown around it doesn't blow away from the MOB. That's all quite apart from the speed at which they approached!
I suggest looking at the RYA method, or simply sail to windward of the casualty then heave-to and drift onto them - adjusting rudder and main to control position.
The RYA method? Any link to this suggestion?
@@pmacintyre77 figure 8 method is what RYA teach.
Im not an ultra pro - but it seems to me that MOB manouvers under sail are highly situational. For instance on a 40ft catamaran in winds up to 3bft id. just fix the sheets and turn on motors. In stronger winds up to 7 i'd turn normally ( since you Cant backwind the jib since it's nowadays all selftacking) loose sheets - turn on motors and recover on leeward.
On a smaller monohull it's either this or fugure of 8 but with higher sea and more wind I might decide for a fig. 8 and leeward recovery.
Anyways - don't fall over board in difficult meteorological conditions. Piss in a bucket and don't be to proud for safety equippment.
What if you have motor failure? Or what if in a panic you don't check for lines in the water and it gets wrapped around your prop? Pretty important to know how to do it under sail
Exactly how I failed my sailing licence first. You were way too fast and you were not stopping. A bit more turn and slower speed actually give you a chance to save MOB and stop next to them. This is a good video how to almost do it good, but still fail. You could use the boom to stop you even.
totally totally wrong
Wrong !