Mirage is Shutting Down. Why You Should Worry.
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Blindsided so many. Including I who answer the phones in Guest Services/Reservations. Real tough. End of another era. Sad but true. Thanks for the memories for me early 90s and now. Pleasure communicating with the 99% classy clientele.
Wow thanks because people here are telling me Iâm wrong and everyone knew somehow.
The employees are not losing nothing! It's very annoying how you start off on a subject and then break off into something else like the water,or, subscriptions,or advertising,etc,etc.. What a total turn off!!! I don't feel any sympathy for those greedy culinary unions.. $2000 per month severance pay,and you feel sorry for them!?
@@chloeconniecarlton328 Correction: A one-time cash payment of $2000 per YEAR that they worked at the hotel, plus 6 months of pension and health benefits. Decent, but certainly not extravagant.
@@chloeconniecarlton328 well there are folks like the super nice lady we met there last night. Been there less than 2 years. How far does a single $2000 payment get her?
What about someone with 20yrs at the property earning $85,000 that now starts over somewhere else at $65k.
Itâs deeper than most think. I hope you can appreciate that.
@@chloeconniecarlton328 $2000 per year PointDexter. Biden voter?
We must be among the few that appreciate the water landscaping in front of the Mirage. That's one of the things I'll miss the most. In the concrete jungle that is along Las Vegas Blvd., the oasis of waterfalls and palm trees was such a welcome sight and very relaxing. On many occasions I would just stop along the railings and just let my mind decompress watching and listening to the waterfalls. The only thing comparable to it is the waterfall in front of Wynn which isn't nearly as expansive.
Feel exactly like you. The Mirage is my favorite hotel. Went to Vegas in December of 1989. It was my second trip to Vegas. I was in Junior High. Still have fond memories of that property. It still is awesome but use to be super awesome until MGM had financial issues with City Center and started neglecting all their properties. Before MGM started being cheap the whole lagoon use to light on fire when the volcano blew. it simulated a river of lava where the water cascades down from the volcano. Sad thing is all MGM had to do was appropriately maintain that property and it would have been awesome forever. These days there is nothing special or themed about the new hotels. Places like Aria, Resorts World and Fontain Bleu, while nice, seem similar to a large Hilton or Marriot, but with a casino, that you could find in any major city. When Steve ran Mirage Resorts the service at all those Mirage Resorts properties, Mirage, Treasure Island, Golden Nugget, Bellagio, was second to none. I miss the Mirage Resorts days and will miss the Mirage for sure. It's what inspired me to pursue a Business Major in college. Feel like with Mirage going away a chapter in my life is closing. Farewell Mirage. You will be missed. Sure Hard Rock is coming but it won't be the same, and you can get a Hard Rock in other cities.
I believe the Hard Rock people said they would most likely keep the water feature with some changes and upgrades.
The water fountains in front of the Bellagio's days are numbered. No water shortage for them however since they sit upon vast water rights from when it was the old Dune's resort and golf course. I see that five acres that costs a lot of money to maintain changing into an asset that makes $$$. More shopping, more gambling, another CVS, that sort of development on that five acres of water.
This one hurts! I hate to see any Vegas property pass by, but this one as I said really hurts. From the iconic volcano in front to the scenic peaceful stroll through rain forest, and waterfalls, no other hotel calmed the soul, while being in such a hectic environment.
I feel the same. Weâve been exclusively with the Mirage since 1999 when the white tigers were up front. Had to move on with the sale, but each year come back to visit all that I love about the Mirage and the latest two weeks ago to take in the smell and video the volcano. Oh this saddens me so much.
Agree100%
That guitar will be an absolute eyesore on the strip.
Kinda like the entire âcity centerâ
If it ever gets actually built. Big projects seem to have a way of going astray.
Obviously the new owners never heard the phrase, " if it ain't broken, don't fix it " đą
It is broken tho. Iâm on the strip everyday. No one goes to mirage compared to others
I was here for the grand opening of the Mirage. I had never seen anything like it. I thought I had died and gone to heaven! Even saw Steve Wynn walking around with his entourage.... I remember calling my husband who couldn't go with me and telling him that I had just stepped into paradise! The tropical entrance, the shark tank, the volcano, the AMAZING pool with water falls, the exotic zoo and don't forget about the dolphins! I could not believe it. Vegas had never had anything like it before. What was to follow with other mega resorts was amazing but the Mirage will always be the one that started it all and I doubt I will ever get that feeling again!
Well said...that was my same experience and reaction i had...i lived in vegas last 30 years and seen everything from Bellagio opening to the new fountain blue and everything in between...nothing compares to the mirage in 1989...it was so ahead of its time
Vegas has around 156,100 hotel rooms. When the Mirage closes, that will leave approximately 153,000. The occupancy rate is around 83%, so there will not be a huge impact, and some visitors might decide to come when the Mirage is closed.
Feeling the night breeze as the mist from the volcano hits your face, the smell of the water and coconut đŽâŠ man Iâm gonna miss the mirage đą
The sound of that rushing water, the cool of the breeze, now a mirage of the pastđąđą
Perhaps our tears will make that rush of water return nicely.
That's going to be 3000 hotel rooms gone for 3 Years. Other properties will benefit in the absence
Add the 1400+ lost from Tropicana and visitors can expect room rates to tick up especially during big events
Yes all prices will skyrocket
@@vegasvan2000 But you had how many rooms added with two new resorts almost across the street from each other? It evens out somewhat room wise.
@@kennixox262 Good point
This is such a sensitive and touchy subject for so many, I have a feeling it will have a positive impact on other strip properties for YEARS to come. Resorts World is 3 years old, and there are still people who won't set foot inside, due to what was lost to make way for that project.
A big guitar is going to look stupid. But then Vegas went stupid awhile ago.
Ever since the mafia was forced out and corporate took over.
The whole "Hard Rock" theme thing is a bit out of date in my opinion. Rock music essentially died twenty years ago. It's all pop tweens now.
@@kennixox262 you can say the same thing about any music with real musical instruments. The music industry has promoted electronic music because it is cheaper to make and that is all they care about. They donât care about quality music.
@@vgshwk Vegas had a resurgence though when the "corporations" took over. They then got greedy much like "the syndicate".
@@tomvu1470 The difference is the mafia never wouldâve destroyed the north part of the strip.
Surreal, just left there this morning. My 20 year history with the Mirage, is that all the pool and restaurant workers remembered me, usually on just one or two trips per year. I will miss them. The change? The Mirage is going out like an athlete retiring while they still have something left. The old Mirage will become a legend in a few years. It was a good run...
I'll miss the water and the volcano.
The Mirage is very near and dear to my heart as it was the first hotel I stayed at in Vegas when I invited myself on my mother and sister Vegas trip when I was three months pregnant and quite grouchy. I will truly miss the opportunity to say goodbye as my sister and I will be in Vegas in September, and that will be a little too late. Thank you so much for the great reporting!
The Mirage is an Icon, It's the start of an era and it's going to be the end of another. Yes the economy is trending down, but, the inflated prices, the extremely high Resort fees ( witch should not exist in the first place) where driven by the post pandemic boom. Yes there where record earnings , record visitation, but it all will hit a wall. That said, Hard Rock is preparing for what happened when they imploded the Stardust, planed and started the Echelon place project (Boyd Gaming) and had to shut it down, giving way years later to Resorts World. I hope greedy corporate big wigs learn and start doing the right thing, bringing back the era of the bargain, service laden,great atmosphere for all, Vegas that attracts everybody, not just Whales. Thank you very much for your video Steven, you're great!
I am not a financial advisor and can not see the econmy three years from now. My own personal econmy is based on my retirement savings and what I can afford and more important willing to spend. Vegas is in my rear view mirror. I got old and my living expenses like property taxes, medical and insurance have taken over my entertainment wants and needs. I was always a low roller and Vegas has moved on which is fine. Vegas exists for people that want a good time and have the resources to spend for a good time. I had my fun and its time to move on.
You close a property there is no guarantee that it will reopen. You also risk losing customers and never getting them back.
Fools are born every minute
I miss all the old water features. The luxor used to have a water feature over 25 yrs ago. The few water features cool it down a bit and is beautiful. It attracts people.
If Samâs Town got rid of their Waterfall Show, Iâd be so mad and angry!!
They should incorporate the volcano and water features into the new building.
they cant. New water restrictions don't allow for it.
@@marcfrey8019 My understanding of the regulation is it restricts any new water features but not for existing features.
Love the Mirage. Have stayed there several times over the years. But the strip needs to lower the table minimums to attract more gamblers.
They will never do thatâŠ. Its seems like the more we ask the higher they go to spite us lol đ
This is the first place we ever stayed in Vegas back in 2000 .plus the movie Vegas vacation was filmed here. I am sad. đ I would watch Vegas vacation every time we went to Vegas. Sometimes change is not for the better. đąHeck I miss the Riviera too.
remember Clark W. Griswold :) stayed there
Not to mention mike Tysonâs boxing matches there in the early 90s
Best buck 99 boofett in town
''Rock Paper Scissors''
@@jameshall915 lol or pick a number 1-10 đ€Ł
@@Ducksfan76 Now Mike Tyson is gonna face Jake Paul.
I will miss the water and the Mirage. So sad
And they want to build that huge GD gaudy Guitar right there smack on the strip! It'll Block any view from other properties up and down the whole strip!
I first moved to Vegas in 1976 and watched it re-invent itself several times over the years. Many properties have fallen. The Landmark, Frontier, Riviera, Stardust, Sands, Dunes, El Rancho, and so on. Now the Trop and Mirage. It's just the way Vegas rolls. At least there will be a new hotel casino property on the Mirage site unlike the Trop which is going down for a baseball stadium which is one of silliest moves in Vegas history. A lot of people have lost their jobs during these transitions and it's a risk you just learn to live with. It's nice to see long time Mirage employees getting rewarded. If I had known I would have kept working there.....đ€Ł
Tropicana had gone down in the 70s
@TeksonikAudio -
You forgot to mention Circus Circus - the place has become a dump, and canât be much longer for this world. I went there a couple of times in the early 1980s when I was in HS. It was still in itâs glory days back then and obviously the precursor to the âfamily experienceâ hotel/casino in Las Vegas. Itâs really sad how far itâs fallen.
I remember when The Mirage was built. It was the first of the âmodern resortâ style hotel casinos with a feature attraction on the Strip. The volcano, the atrium, Siegfried and Roy, the White Tigers, the wildlife attraction. Iâm glad we visited it one more time a couple of years ago.
I remember as 11 year old in 1988 when 1st visited Las Vegas from London England and saw the construction of The Mirage. Saw it in full operation in 1991 when turned 14. Visited Las Vegas 6 times and I had pleasure of staying in The Mirage in September 2022. Really enjoyed it. Was sad to learn will now be closing down. RIP The Mirage
I stayed at the Mirage on my first visit to Vegas back in the 90s. I worry about the employees. The volcano will be missed.
Vegas has become a very expensive destination now. Hotel rates, resort fees, food and drinks, etc..
just get a MGM players card and MGM credit card.
The rooms need renovations but the mirage is iconic and itâs casino, pool and attractions are all top tier
I stayed in The Mirage back in Oct 2001 they comp us to a beautiful penthouse suite. I loved it. I also seen Sigfried and Roy Show. I have wonderful Memories of the time in Vegas.
Guessing the tram between TI and Mirage will be history too
Great review of The Mirage Steven. It was our first Hotel coming to Las Vegas and have yet to experience the same welcoming way we were treated at The Mirage. We have great memories there, and Im glad the employees will be getting something for their service.
Iâm curious what nobodyâs talking about whatâs going to happen to all the animals and sea life etc. ??
I believe they found new homes a while ago
The animals were already relocated to sanctuaries and some of the dolphins did die due to respiratory problems. I am happy that the new owners moved the animals. Dolphins and lions do not belong in restricted spaces.
Well the local LV economy does go through some interesting peaks & valleys. They are transforming from a middle class destination to a higher end (less characterized) destination. As peopleâs financial situation becomes increasingly tight they will travel less & this includes the Vegas regulars that come annually or several times per year. They have been jacking up prices to ridiculous levels for the simplest of meals, services, rooms, etc. I think some of it will offset but itâs pushing lower end properties and visitors out and in some cases permanently. Not the greatest look in my opinion. Corporate greed at work and we get whatever is left.
I picture Vegas abandoned in 20 years.
The water was the best when you walked by. It was always smelled so good.
Yup. Less of the chlorinated smell you get at the Venetian and Bellagio. It actually smells nice.
Good report Steven, thank you. The last time we were in LV, we went to a cocktail show there The Mirage has always been a nice place to go. We saw S and R there many years ago. The Mirage will be missed.
What I read, that if they take the 2k per year, they lose all seniority.
The sad thing about bonus money is the rate at which it's taxed.
RIP, Las Vegas. Ain't the same no more. I got one last taste in 2013 and 2014. After Riviera closed down and Golden Goose closed, afterward it started feeling corporate everywhere. Talk about very cheap eats gone as well....
Visited the Mirage at 5AM in 2022 when myself, the dealer, and the pit boss were the only people in the entire casino. Felt very like out of I am legend
Gambling at 5am is a red flag. 3 steps: draw a line in the sand; count your losses over the years, and; go home. Good odds casinos have all shut down, Trop, Mirage.
I hate this for the employees. They are awesome. This hurts me so bad. We always stayed at the Mirage đ«
Was just there a week ago and the casino was crowded. Good vibe, restaurants hoping. Not a whisper about closing down. I was in the process of booking my October stay when I heard. Oh well maybe Iâll try one of the renovated casinos downtown. Sad to see it go.
Very well done. I remember being in Vegas watching The Mirage being built on several occasions. Sad to see it go.
I hope this resort is 21+.
Excellent video!!! Steve Wynn loves water and plants. It's going to be sad when it shuts down. I'll be there in July 14-19. Maybe I will run into ya Steve. Never know!!
Oh Man!
Loved the Volcano at the Mirage! One of our greatest memories of our Holiday from Scotland to Vegas!
Actually went into the hotel afterwards for a cool drink and to hail a cab back to our hotel as the heat in July sapped our strength altogether!
Everyone was so nice and helpful to the hapless Scotâs folk on vacation!đŹđ€ŁđŽó §ó ąó łó Łó Žó żđșđž
THE one resort that started Las Vegas's boom is about to go dark, I guess it is all things come to an end, eventually.
I remember the days of the moving walkway into the resort that went through the white tiger display, that wonderful smell the lobby had, S&R statue out front, the secret garden, the dolphin display, it was special......
Now with the tribe taking over and placing that gaudy guitar shaped building out front, the landscape in Vegas turned for the worse. This place will NEVER be the same, service, entertainment wise ever again, goodbye Old, NEW school Vegas and welcome a crappier way of life.....
Very good video. The Volcano Show was always my favorite. I will miss that forever. Thanks for posting this.
This is the second very stupid idea to hit the Strip this year.
First was a baseball stadium on the strip......stupid
Second was tearing down the Mirage for a guitar......double stupid.
100% truth
3 years seems like an eternity to close a megaresort down for renovations! I certainly hope it doesn't turn into a decade after a few bankruptcies as did the Fontainebleau.
Great video Steven. The Mirage is an icon and will be missed. Love the landscaping and the main indoor areas. Rooms were fair. Good restaurants. Not keen on the Hard Rock. Prices at the high end steak houses on the Strip are ridiculous. Not too many to spend that kind of money.
Thanks for making this video. Definitely the economy comes into play. It would likely take much longer to do renovations WITH the property still open. I've made quite a few trips to Las Vegas over the years but it was usually a long walk from the Excalibur up to the Mirage, so I didn't do that often. My big draw if ya wanna know is the In n Out by the Linq - but hey - they don't allow you filming there. keep on bringing us good content like this!
Cheap hotels will all be gone eventually itâs by design to keep the lower classes from going to Las Vegas
There are a lot of the lower classes visiting Las Vegas all the time. Trashy people with their three foot long sugary booze drinks, tank tops, freaky inky tattoos and mullets.
I'd say my most memorable experience with Mirage would be 2017. That trip i got a tour of the wildlife habitat and got to tour the training/feeding area for the dolphins.
Old news. It is being closed for a complete renovation of a resort that opened in 1989. So, I would imagine that literally every part of the complex will receive a gut renovation to bring it up to current standards. The ugly gold glazing will change to blue, but beyond that, probably new plumbing, HVAC, elevators, everything and the addition of the new horribly TACKY Guitar tower and the expansion to the front sidewalk. IT will be overbearing visually in my opinion. Closing for nearly three years and reopening into the future will be difficult to gauge as no one can predict what the economy will bring in three years time. If there is a recession between now and then, expect an empty property Mid Strip for the next decade. All this has zero effect on my life but it sucks to have an empty hole on that part of the Strip.
And the best section of the Strip will be nothing but massive dusty construction for the next 3 plus years..
Full gut remodel maybe. Instead of a paint and plaster like many other do while staying open. Plus the amount of equipment needed to clear the front area and build the guitar. How can you work around that and remain open? This place should be all new.
From a risk management perspective (as well as time for completion)t it makes sense to completely close for new construction and renovations. There is a certain synergy to the strip and the proposed giant guitar hotel just seems totally out of place for this location. Payouts are only a windfall if people are able to immediately transition to another property. IMO employees would benefit more if they continued to be paid on the regular payroll cycle until they reached the max payout.
Great job Steven. Appreciated the history and your assessment. Thank you! Very professionally done.
Made a point of staying at The Mirage for the first time when I was there last year after 25 previous visits.
I'm so happy that I did it before it closed because I think it is a fantastic property being in a great location, good eating options and a fun place to explore.
I still remember when it first opened; what a shame it will no longer be part of the Las Vegas skyline.....đ
Sad it will be missed !! Its getting to expensive to go there anymore and slots are very tight !!! Hopefully economy will change i see less people going !!
Too bad. The Mirage was iconic. Iâm not surprised theyâre doing this though. Keeping it open during that kind of renovation seemed strange to me.
In the 90s, my Uncle religously vacationed at the Mirage. He played Blackjack one night with Bruce Willis and Demi Moore when she was bald for her GI Jane role and he said she was smoking hot even with no hair.
Rain Man was filmed at Caesars Palace, not the Mirage. The Mirage was, however, featured in National Lampoon's Vegas Vacation and DreamWorks short-lived primetime animated series Father of the Pride.
Good morning Steve. Your up early!! Beautiful morning!
Stayed at the Mirage a couple of times and enjoyed it both times. TThe pool area one of the best. RIP Mirage, will miss you.
We will miss the Mirage so much. Loved that place. One of the reasons I continued to visit Vegas. So glad to have seen Beatles Love. Best show in Vegas. Met Seigfried shortly after Roy passed away while walking through the animal habitat. So many memories!
But wow, how awful for the employees. I can't even imagine.
So beautiful I love the tropical theme my favorite
Sad really sad
Steve Wynn †missed water â€ïžmissed đ đ â€ïž
It is going to take 3 years because that is how long recall rights are for former employees. They will reopen probably a week after the 3 year mark so they will not be forced to take on all the older and possibly undesirable people who may not fit into their new image.
Love Vegas but parking fees and resort fees and constant nickel and dime add-ons are discouraging travel to this once cheap incredible destination.
How sad....such a beautiful property with beautiful water features.....water features disappearing, the beauty attium......being transformed into concrete, retail stores....
I've worked at the Mirage for 13 years at the Beatles Love show. Really sad about everything going on. I was thinking maybe they're going to implode the whole place, and that's why it's closing for three years. I know all the models and pictures of the new property include the original Mirage hotel tower. But I think that would've scared a lot of employees into thinking the hotel was being demolished if the tower was missing. But now that the word is out, Hard Rock can do whatever they want to the property. That's just my thoughts.
Even worse than losing the Mirage is losing The Beatles Love, which is hands down the best show in Vegas.
Couldn't they have bought Circus Circus instead?
With the union workers getting $2,000 per year of service at severance pay, this is going to really strengthen the union in Las Vegas with hotel workers knowing that if the hotel were to close or be sold that the union has their back. I bet the people who decided not to join the union are kicking themselves over this because they didn't want to pay an extra $10 a month in dues
Great resort, I always felt like I was on vacation when walking through even though I already was.
This is a $AD Tragedy as I have lived in VEGA$ for 14 years now and this was one of the only stayed at this hotel among another. Between the Tropicana hotel and the Mirage are $taple$ to the Las Vegas $trip!!! $AD to GO :(-
Great video! Thank you Steven đ
Stephen, my older cousin worked for steve W for over 20 years. He helped open that property. Iâm going to really miss it. I absolutely loved this property. I knew where every restroom and shortcut was. Itâs a crime to remove the volcano and water effects
Vegas is becoming a mess. First Tropicana and now Mirage đ
And Monte Carlo is not a same like before with Lazy River, waving pool .Nowđ
I loved the Mirage. It was the first mega-resort in Vegas in 1989. It was still quite nice in 2017 and maybe the best value on the Strip. I also liked the tropical scent pumped into the lobby and casino and the indoor "rainforest" full of palms and plants.
I love that running water.
Extremely informative content, Steven, thank you so much !! First time watching your channel, but I look forward to continuing to do so in the future. The Mirage has many great memories for me, and I will truly miss it, as I think many others will as well !! Keep your great effort, thanx again.
Awesome, thank you!
So,so sad. Mirage is one of the most iconic and beautiful resorts in the world. There are many other places they could have chosen to put the Hard Rock. What an idiotic decision!
Hi Steven, it was nice to meet you last week at Horseshoe. Thanks for taking some time with me. _Dino
Always buddy!
I like this channel. Seems like you give the real deal! What camera are you using? đ„
The original hard rock hotel in vegas early on thrived mostly because it appealed to a young hip crowd who enjoyed the nightl club scene .. hard rock provided this with a nightclub on there property just like the palms hotel back in the day..As soon as some of the strip properties put in night clubs on there properties hard rock and palms started being shells of themselves..
Good job reporting, thanks.
More than half of the staff at The Mirage in Las Vegas are represented by the Culinary Workers Union. The union and the Bartenders Union have represented around 1,700 hospitality workers at the casino. In December 2023, the Culinary Union announced a tentative agreement with The Mirage for a new five-year contract for over 1,700 hospitality workers. The union said the contract will ensure workers are protected, even as the property closes for three years.
Youâre on point. I agree
I think it's a huge mistake to mess with an established, beautiful property. My major concern is the way they ran the other Vegas property they had. Most of their places are super corporate or run down. I would have loved to see it refreshed to a Wynn level, the same theme, maybe a tower, etc. Canning the employees wasn't wise, considering ultimately they are who make a place what it is, I hope they'll be OK, money lasts so long and then.....as for the Vegas economy, yea it's gonna take a hit but I think with all the recent expansions and new stadiums etc it'll be alright, Vegas and Reno have always made it.
Great video quality since I last watched your channel!
Hopefully we can catch the volcano show tonight. Back in Vegas!!!
I have always loved the Mirage. Vegas has moved away from what it used to be into what it is now. When I first started going to Vegas in 1994 it was gaming, cheap great food and shows. It has been moving toward a much younger crowd with a focus on massive night clubs and less focus on the gamblers. Myself being an older person now goes to Biloxi instead of Vegas. Biloxi feels to me like old Vegas. Vegas to me feels like spring break. My 2 cents. đą
Sad to see it go. We stayed there back in the early 90's and was just there late last year when we heard Hard Rock was going to convert the hotel.
A number of ground tests outside the Mirage has shown that it isnât suitable to build the guitar on, so the closure may be due to having to pull down the existing building or part of it, to get the guitar building placed somewhere on the property.
You know how all buildings are becoming indistinguishable boxes? Like you cannot tell a Wendyâs from a McDonaldâs from a Starbucks unless you see the sign? I feel like thatâs the feel of Vegas lately⊠nothing truly distinguishable. Basic rooms for sure feel the same, no themes. Upscale rooms, even at a pricey casino like Bellagio need some TLC. When I was young I couldnât wait to be old enough to stay at Treasure Island but by the time I made it the pirate show was no more and the rooms were drab like I could be anywhere in America. Itâs boring. Iâve stayed at the mirage once since the purchase by hard rock and I saw it was dated but it had so much potential. Itâs truly such a beautiful property.
Hey Steven did I hear the downtown grand is for sale? Thanks for the video.
Losing the water streams is sad. It wonât be the same feeling while walking around on the new property. âčïž And I SUBSCRIBED! đ
Hard Rock branding is outdated and a little tacky. Thereâs already several Hard Rock resorts and restaurants worldwide. The new Hard Rock LV will not be a must visit destination, especially when Resorts World is just down the street. I would rather see a Nature and Native American themed resort. Maybe convert the tropical garden to lush forest and mangrove trees with lagoons.
Agree hard rock brand as bad as senor frogs
Agree