Natalia Grace, Genuine While Michael Barnett is Faking | Body Language Analysis
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You don't even have to be a body language analysis to recognize that he's faking. He's sooo over the top, I just can't believe anyone would sympathize with him. I haven't watched this episode yet, but it was hard to watch the other videos...
For reeealll, that dude is comically bad and so extra with his antics.
He just mirrors her actions every time he is trying to show emotion.
It’s a lot more complicated than you can realize
It’s so cringey. It’s really hard to watch. His behavior is blatantly an act.
100% I have followed this from when it broke and I never believed him or his wife. How anyone has is beyond me.
My god. I didn’t know what level of abuse she went through. This poor girl. Those “parents” should be in jail
Also, you can be charged with child abuse just for letting a crime happen to a child. He is responsible here too
And he says the SON is “so so sorry” but he refuses to show any remorse for his own behavior when he was an ADULT at the time. Twisted.
That's definitely intentional. He doesn't want to go to prison and apologizing can been seen as an admission of guilt. He's a disgusting human being.
And he tries to pretend he's as innocent as the children were-- he was an adult. He was the guardian. He can go on and on about how they 'have the same monster' and how 'evil' did all the wrong things, but he was there. He let that abuse happen. Neglect is abuse. Inaction when someone allows a child to be abused is also abuse.
And he’s son has actual guilt about it. Even though he is on the spectrum some will express great guilt about his actions even though it was his mother’s manipulation tactics that made him feel that he had to mistreat her.
@@lissaC.W. Were the boys made to mistreat her? I don't trust anything Michael says.
@@Maazzzo well we know from what jacob said that he did do this to mistreat her and that his mother told him to. And that is a form of emotional abuse. Children are easy to manipulate especially ones who have autism even though they are very high functioning. It’s actually cruel because many are highly sensitive and do express empathy and great remorse. So yeah I don’t trust Michael at all and I don’t believe he didn’t know about the abuse.
It's so fcking disgusting how he's so concerned with his own feelings, and making sure his feelings aren't getting hurt. No sympathy for her and what she went through.
He argues and acts like a literal toddler.
Poor Natalia. I pray for her well-being and healing.
Great comment. He’s always “we’re both victims” which annoys me because you were a parent. But great observation. He doesn’t have sympathy to for her. She’s crying and he’s justifying consoling one of the boys. The issue is she’s a mere by standard to hear the story. He doesn’t seem to care she’s crying. He’s too busy telling a story to care for her. I had no way to explain how he acts. Like a toddler is perfect he has no accountability for his lack of any action to stop the abuse and no accountability
No wonder he always talks like he's talking to a child, he's a man-child
I don't think I have EVER despised another human being as much as I do Michael. Literally everything about him makes my skin crawl. Poor Natalia went through hell. I just want to hold her and tell her she is loved and that NOTHING was her fault. Someone needs to explain to her that she will never get the answers she is seeking from that bastard because he is incapable of telling the truth, and will only further traumatise her. She needs intense inpatient therapy and long term outpatient therapy. And, she needs to have ZERO contact with Michael. Sadly, I think the ONLY honest answers she would get would come from the eldest autistic son. Bless you Natalia.❤
I feel just the same, he’s so hard to watch because he’s making my skin crawl too. Seriously this guy is nauseating, everything about him is fake and almost sinister. I hope Natalie can get any help she needs to try and recover from both her childhood with these people and this awful meeting with Micheal.
I thought this tooo !!! Like the meetings with him shouldn’t have ever happened in my opinion but now that there has been two and it’s made nothing better, I hope she realizes or has someone in her life to tell her closure will come from within… it’s never going to come from someone crooked like this freaking guy.
@@MoreWaterThanBlood I agree and I so much hope that the couple that has been taking care of her, TRULY loves her and helps her to come to that point of acceptance. I live with complex PTSD and part of it is from abuse. The abuse can never truly be addressed with the person and that frustration and anger can eat you alive if not dealt with by a professional who is trained in how to counsel someone in this area. It's time for Natalia to heal. She deserves it.
Him and Christine are both very despicable and nasty people. Imo they both should have been jailed for how they behaved.
You saw when he kneeled on the carpet and started hitting the floor continuously then at the end he says “ow” like a little kid… that was SOOOO cringy to watch … he gives himself away with every word that comes out of his mouth
I'm frustrated they went past the "doctors told me to do that" so quick. What medical professional is going to advise barring a kid from a bathroom and water?
Exactly!!! And it is illegal to lock a child in their room. It's grounds for CPS removal because it's dangerous. They cannot go to the bathroom. If there were a fire they wouldn't be able to escape etc... no reputable doctor would tell parents to do that.
He just reminds me of my mother; nothing is ever their fault really because they’re “on your side” and “I was a victim too”. Watching him makes me feel viscerally angry and nauseous. Natalia is holding her composure phenomenally considering she can’t dramatically flounce out like he did in the first video and she’s stuck in the same room as that slimy, fetid idiot.
I'm sorry😢
It’s a shame that he never at any point saw her as a daughter and can’t even fake it
THIS!!! “I wanted my kids.” But not her. I wanted to grab him and shake him and shout at him.
Yeah, no empathy
He's so full of it. There is no excuse for allowing abuse to a child or anyone. His stupid excuse makes no sense that he will lose his kids. There are two types of abusers in my opinion the direct abuser and the abuser by proxy (Michael). If a person stands by and does nothing he/she is equally guilty of abuse in my mind.
Enablers
Exactly! When my ex-husband of 12 years hit my child, I left! Immediately. I had told him I would never choose him over my child. It’s his fault he didn’t listen…not my child’s. I wish I had seen that coming and left sooner, though! When I talk about it, I say that. I can’t imagine staying and watching someone continue to abuse a child. Then, saying, “But, I was a victim, too.” I was afraid, but I was an adult. I could choose to leave. My child couldn’t.
it infuriates me that Michael is so happy to bring up everything that traumatized Natalia, but when its time for her to bring up things that make him uncomfortable, its off limits. The more of these I watch the more I cannot stand Michael.
I just hope it not too late to prosecute his a$$ and get him in jail.
I was thinking the same exact thing
I would really love to know what Christine has to say about any and all of this. He's so busy throwing her under the bus and pretending like he's completely innocent that it's disgusting.
That would be priceless. I would love to see that. She could even write a tell book.
She responded on her social medial page, can't remember which one, but it was all the same type of BS just from her side.
If you look up the story, Christine said that it was all lies and that she never abused any of the kids. That Natalia was "a very much loved and cared for member of the family."
He looks like Steve Buscemi playing a teenager in 30 Rock 😂
how do you do fellow kids?
Steve Buscemi is an angel, he doesn’t deserve this comparison 😂 (still laughed tho)
@@NotashnicoleHe also played that character as comedy, so it’s extra funny watching this dork actually trying to pull off this look non- ironically.
Think about how angry we all feel hearing what Natalia went through. Now think about how you’d feel if you were there and could have stopped it. Why doesn’t Michael feel like that?!?!
Listening and watching Michael brings out a physical response in me. This grown man, as odd as he is, knew that what his wife was doing to Natalia was abusive, immoral, and illegal. The fact that he didn't stop his wife, remove the child from his wife's care, and go straight to the Police, makes me sick. The "show" that he puts on is disgusting. He's just trying to save his own a**. Michael is as much an abuser of Natalia as his wife was. He did nothing to stop it. Therefore, he is complicit.
I cant with him. How was he ever married 😂😂 And a conversation with him would be EXHAUSTINGGGGGGGGV🫠😪
I don't know who else caught this... he says to her, "He only learned TWO years ago," but that "him and his son have cried over that same incident the last THREE years." He's lying imo he knows wayyyy more then he is saying.
Also, my spidey scenses flagged the entire time. Imo he was just as guilty and did not care what happened to her. He might have liked it. He comes acrossed as a bully. He creeps me out and makes me scared to know what would've happened had she not gotten away as much as she did.
She deserved better from everyone involved!!
This whole series reminds me so much of my own dad. The commentary is so validating
Heartbreaking to hear what Natalia went through, and to see her obvious grief. That kind of trauma lasts a lifetime. Hopefully she can continue to heal and prosper, despite not getting much of any closure through this interview. 😢❤ Very interesting analysis of the interview, nonetheless.
I literally hate this man. He refuses to take responsibility for anything, and he's so overly dramatic about everything, I don't know how anyone can believe one word out of his mouth.
Weird question: (I am in no way supporting Michael. He should have called and got Natalia help and he didn’t. He failed her) My question is more about body cues and science part of it. They have a highly intelligent autistic son. If Michael was undiagnosed autistic hidden by high intelligence… would that affect a physical reading? I know my social cues don’t match. I have not been officially diagnosed, but it runs in the family and I have had two different therapists say I need to pursue that diagnosis. I feel emotions extremely strongly but I do not display them naturally. So to cope I feel like I have to force my body to do things that stereotypically coincide with the emotion I’m feeling. Otherwise, people around me think I’m weird or being disingenuous. Would an autistic person have to be read differently, and would things like self soothing or stims come off as manipulative?
Respectfully, can you give your side on what happened between you and piper? I appreciate it’s a sensitive topic, but I am unsure if you are aware it what has been implied, and I feel it is important to hear your side of the story
Man... The only thing more sickening than someone trying to gaslight me is watching someone try to do it to someone else. I know that feeling; that sinking, hateful feeling when your perpetrator's telling you shit, absolute shit that you know is wrong, and you just want to scream over them because how dare they act like you're crazy. Props to Natalia for keeping composure. Better than me. Soon as I hear that fake emotional strain and fake crying, it makes me feel almost violently angry.
But watching this big abusive bully cower in the cameras is nice. Every time he peeks over to Natalia (feels like 50% of the time) to see if she's buying his bullshit but she's literally just distraught in her own feelings; that was good. It was good she wasn't connecting to him and buying it.
I can't stand this man. In my opinion he's a liar and just as evil as the wife. She should sue them.
Can you please do kat Williams on club shay shay with Shannon Sharpe?
Not exactly body language, but he consistently switches between past/present tense in the beginning when he speaks about the first time meeting Natalia, which can be a sign of making something up on the spot, or scripting an answer.
The abusiveness is obvious, but putting a lock on her door could have killed her if there were a house fire or a storm surge.
this poor girl has been through so much. I really hope she finds a real family and feels loved the way she deserves!
I’m glad he finally backed off on the increasingly ridiculous names, but it also makes the past videos seem even more performative
This whole situation needs investigated. Why the judge raged her how this abuse happened and no one reported it. Then he had the nerve to say something about pressing the right charges and we can still get her. Disgusting.
He's beyond annoying. I dont see how anyone could ever believe he is genuine.
You know when a 5 year old is trying to get out of trouble and makes some crazy shit up in the process? That's what everything this man says and does emulates
As self-centered as this man is I wouldn't put it past him and his wife adopting Natalia for financial reasons. Potential adopters get money for fostering and then she obviously gets a check. Micheal is a weird man. Immature and a liar.
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Oh wow, I wasn't expecting the part 2 so soon
Out of genuine curiosity- is there ever a situation where a doctor would actually advise parents to put locks on their children’s doors? This isn’t a lock that Natalia can use for privacy, this is a lock the Barnett’s use to keep Natalia contained. What if there was a fire? What if there was some kind of emergency? Does this make sense to anyone else? Are there any doctors in the comments who can educate me on this?
I can see someone getting themselves into a fat lawsuit for suggesting that, because as you said, what if there’s a fire?
So I suspect Michael was flat out lying about that. ( Call me crazy.) If CPS was informed that Natalia was “ a danger to herself and others,” that would make them obligated as mandated reporters to get her put under a psych hold .
But putting her under a psych hold would mean Natalia would be evaluated by psychiatrists and physicians, which would have ended their little game pretty quickly.
Wait, he said that it was a closed adoption, but then said he found out their names like a month after the adoption?
My god he's A f****** sociopath!!
She deserves some validation. Making her relive her trauma and then denying it creating a new layer of trauma just because he can't take accountability and doesn't want to make himself look bad in front of the camera. This is insane.
Michael DID know their names anyways! they showed proof on the documentary that they were eamailing with them around the same time they got Natalia! hes like a car wreck, hes awful but you cant stop watching him.
Thank you
Perfect timing. I'll watch on my layover!! Thank you, Mr. Observe!!❤
When she was talking about what happened when he wasn't there, I felt that so much. My eldest told me something that was happening, I held them and apologised that I hadn't known. My heartbroke. I made steps to change things to make sure it never happened again. This is supposed to be his daughter and he can't show the emotions of a father when his daughter is in pain. It makes no sense to me.
PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON THE Mary Kay Letourneau & Vili Fualaau Interview !!!! she's a p8do who married her prey / she knew the boy since he was like 6-8 yrs old and had a bunch of kids with him ITS A MESS AND UR THE PERFECT PERSON TO DISECT IT
Logan, I don't know how you can stay so calm and professional during your review. I know there are a lot of edits and a lot we don't see past what you've uploaded, but thank the gods for you being able to do this without losing it. Because I would
This is so uncomfortable to watch. Not because of the content, but because he's so embarrassing.
So happy you're covering this!
I felt like a few of her moments were forced for the camera but I don’t think that should take away from her story like other people online. Michael, however… omfg! He makes me sooo uncomfortable. That man doesn’t have a sincere bone in his body.. well.. maybe a tiny one. One phalange is sincere about his sons.
I agree. There were times I felt like she was forced to cry, but I could still tell there was anger and pain.
Sometimes in court, people will exaggerate a few details to get a guilty verdict otherwise someone who's actually guilty might go free. It sucks but it's what it takes to convince a jury.
Didn't expect another part this soon. Yay 🎉
YESSSSS! I was waiting for your next video!!
Love your content! Keep up the good work 😊😊😊❤❤❤
All those people, need to be in prison, doen to the judge who said this poor girl was an adult!! Obviously the judge was drinking or doing drugs!! 💯🤬😞
Yes, i would watch a part 3, 4, and as many as it takes to see the whole interview.
This case really makes me sick. How much of a freak do you have to be to accuse a child of “faking being a kid” and insist they’re an adult meanwhile heavily ab*sing them. These people make me feel rage and I hope Natalia is able to recover from these absolute psychos
Love all your videos, but I am finding these specific ones hard to watch without getting upset. I'll be back for the next topic, as usual! Thanks for all your hard work! ✌️😊
I’m skeptical of Natalia’s tendency to mirror Michael’s body language. @21:20 specifically. I know this is a conversation about a very traumatic topic, but I just want to analyze her as much as Michael. Idk idk
He's mirroring her. She's actually emotional while he is faking, at least that's what it looks like to me
Edit: at least at 21:20
@@Dells16She might be doing it back a little as some desperate unconscious need to reconnect. Abused people keep subconsciously hoping their abuser will turn back into the person who love- bombed them.
( Edit- but I agree, he’s instigating it.)
I hope she doesn’t believe him. I think we as watchers feels more emotions for this situation than he does. We cry with her when she describes what she went through, he doesn’t.
Hey so autistic person here, when something happens and I'm questioned i tend to repeat myself. Is that perceived as deception?
Can you explain his slow blinks? To me that are like he is hiding something or not being truthful. I'm confused. Also, the fact that he overly tells his story with very small details with acting them out also make me feel like he's trying to convince her. I'm not the professional here obviously, but it just feels untruthful.
Even when Natalia breaks down in tears, Michael is *still* playing the victim... he never takes responsibility, and it's all everyone else's fault... he is despicable!! There is nothing about him that makes me like him or feel for him. He's selfish and childish.
He apologises profusely on behalf of his son because his son is so sorry and traumatised but doesn't apologise once for the horrific things that happened to Natalia.
Regardless of whether he was complicit or not (we all know he bloody was), its weird that he doesnt show any empathy at all. Not even a "im so sorry for what you have been through"
Oh wait, right at the end he gave a half assed apology.
Listennnnnn I watch the whole thing and I couldn't deal with how dramatic he was! Ugh just a bunch of lying! Manipulation! This man needs some serious help!!! Poor girl just wanted to be loved still does and she ate everything he said. Sad
One thing that hit me really viscerally is when Michael was imitating Kristine hissing “ Back up your wife!” and he swung his arm over and pointed straight in Natalia’s face. She physically flinched. No way do I believe he wasn’t aware she’d find that gesture frightening.
In the recordings of him talking to her at the apartment his whole attitude was “ You’re gonna do what I say,” in these videos it’s the same energy except it’s shifted to “You’re gonna believe what I say.”
Look I'm gonna do a tiny devil's advocate here. I feel like if it was reversed and it was a woman saying the same things he was I don't think there would be as much hate as Michael is currently getting. There have been plenty of women in the scenario of staying with someone abusive same situation he says he was in. There have also been women who stay even if their kids were and they stay out a sense of powerlessness. What is it because he is a man he can't feel powerless? Is that what it is? Don't get me wrong here though I also still think that a mother should leave or stop an abusive partner from harming their children. However I don't think people would be as harsh on a woman who didn't vs a man like Michael.
Not to group this guy in with any one Johnny Depp was an example of a male who was abused by a woman. It does happen.
And to that I reply, Aileen Wuornos. A lot of parallels. Refusal to accept responsibility? Check. Always defensive? Check. Flamboyant storytelling style that just reeeeeeks of bullshit? Check.
what the fuck i can’t believe ur so close to 1 mill when i followed so soon i really deserve it tho man ur phenomenal
also this was a phenomenal video, i’ve watched a lot about this case but it’s nice to see the other side of natalia’s story
His acting like Shane Dawson levels of bad. He’s so animated and dramatic in moments where most people would be silently feeling/hurting.
I hope this man gets caught for being the lying manipulator he is.
This guy is his own special bad that needs to be put in a cell!
The Tom Cruise $cientology video would be really interesting-- but it is heavily edited so it might be difficult for you.
He comes across as a child who cannot stand the idea that he might’ve done something wrong. As a mother of a kindergartener, every single action/response of his just screams of “I am not wrong! It’s not MY FAULT!!!!!1!!11!!” But in the way that a child who hasn’t quite gotten the hang of owning up to his actions is denying responsibility.
He can't apologize or admit to anything because he doesn't want to get charged
It's crazy, I never yell at my computer when watching TV. But I found myself yelling at Michael all through this documentary. He was so obviously manipulative, and theatrical, I was enraged by him and his inability to take any responsibility for his role in her abuse. I was appalled at his ability to deflect, minimize, and play victim. He is truly a piece of work.
Can you analyze any of Orlando Brown's interviews 💫
You can tell in the pictures from when it frist came out of natalia she was a kid and had a young face and pictures now she looks older. That is crazzyyyy they literally had a baby living on her own. How sick man this case should definitely be reopened and they should do their time that is terrible!!!
Hey Logan, are you okay? You're doing great, hope you're alright
I wish Natalia had said “you never taught me anything about stranger danger” when she talked about not being prepared for the real world by Christine. I just can’t stand the way Michael makes it seem like Christine was the only parent. I find him to be so repulsive, all I want to do is lock him in a room and question him until he tells the truth. Like, he shouldn’t be allowed to leave when something hurts his feelings or when he’s held responsible for his actions. Of COURSE he knew what was happening. Of COURSE he could have done something. The victim act in the face of someone who was a victim of so much more is infuriating.
After Michael's miserable attempt at acting I would love to see you analyse an actual actor in a movie, just to compare whether their body language is actually synchronised when acting or whether you can still telk that the emotion is rehearsed.
So he doesn’t know that his sons were beating her but he knows his son is so so sorry cause they talked about how she forced them to do things like that? Come again?
I've been trying to watch Season 2 on Prime and it keeps saying it's not available....anyone else having this issue or know where it is viewable elsewhere? I guess her adoptive parents have had it with her a few months after the adoption.
Hbo max or discovery plus has it 😊
It'd be neat if you did Amber Lynn Reid, all the lies would be going down a rabbit hole though.
If you do amymore on Natalia and Micheal can you do more anlysis of Natalia?
Any rational medical professional wouldn’t advise locking a child in a room. This sort of thing is handled by actual professionals who have the proper setting for the individual’s safety.
I can’t with Michael. He’s using specific instances to blanket himself as a victim like Natalia. But Natalia was there. I hope she recalls the interactions between Michael and Christine because how they generally interacted with each other is going to be closer to the truth. He’s just as guilty in what happened yo her.
Regardless of what people think of Natalia, she was a child with disabilities and they were the adults. They had a responsibility to her.
I genuinely feel horrible for her. I hope she can find people who choose her as family and genuinely love and care about her. She’s worthy of love and kindness.
Right…if a child actually had them in fear for their safety, I have a hard time believing they wouldn’t have had her hospitalized. They certainly had the resources to do so.
please react to gypsy rose blanchard, i feel like her body language is a little suspicious especially when she is in an interview with her husband
please do shanda vander ark!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That man is way too physically descriptive with his hands to be telling the truth about anything lol. I've seen people who use their hands when speaking, but the way he has to shape out every item he mentions with his hands, or act out everything motion he says he did, is a clear sign of someone who is used to lying and manipulating people. They even say during interrogations that when criminals tend act out everything or over explain the details it's usually because they're lying. Im not familiar with this story, but in the first minute of hearing him speak in this video, I already feel discomfort and would never trust him. Definitely performative and fake. Gonna go watch previous videos to get more info.
THIS GUY HAS NO CREDENTIALS HE IS A FRAUD
Notice how when he was reminiscing about living next door, he said Christines name.... just interesting
please do gypsy rose....
He is just unsufferable, theatrical, and annoying.
The reason manipulators are so scary
Is because they can make play on your sense of reality.
As a person who escaped from a cult, I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see Logan cover the body language of cult leaders, specifically ones who believe they are god. The Rajneesh guy, the Waco leader, brother Paul from the Order, that ‘levitating’ Japanese dude, Warren Jeffs, people like that. That would possibly be beneficial for current members to see too I’d imagine.
What makes me so angry is how impactful the Barnetts’ lies were. There are still many people who believe Natalia is fake or a sociopath, despite all the evidence that it was all fabricated. I was lied about, in foster care and denied future placements because of it, so I know how it feels. All because I, unwittingly, said something that was not flattering to a foster parent, to a worker who told me what I said was confidential. It got back to the foster parent. It wasn’t anything horrible. I had just mentioned her having parties. Now, I realize, she was an alcoholic and felt exposed by that. I was just talking, not trying to get anyone in trouble. I thought she was an adult and could throw parties, if she wanted to. I didn’t know it was some big secret. I’m not sure what she put in my file, but I was only offered “reform” school (getting whooped by a bunch of hardened child jailbirds) or substance use treatment, after that. That was nowhere in my chart and I hadn’t used or drank anything there, so I think some projection was done. Natalia’s story has some unique factors, but it’s, by no means, unusual. People take in children who have selfish motives. I’m so glad Natalia has brought this issue to the forefront. She is experiencing backlash from it. I, too, had displayed some inappropriate behaviors and a few isolated violent behaviors and I don’t have a personality disorder. I have autism that wasn’t diagnosed, as a child. Some behavioral problems are common, for abused kids. I’m glad I got therapy, to process what happened to me. I have a lot of empathy and see the best in people. Natalia deserves a lot better and Barnetts, it’s ok to say you made a mistake. People won’t hate you, if you do. They will only worry about you, if you don’t. Please take responsibility for this young lady, whom you abused and slandered and whose life you have disrupted.
Can you analyze part of the Ricardo Lopez tapes, The Bjork Stalker?
Just commenting for the algorithm 😀
In my opinion if he was “innocent” by way of ignorance to the situation he would still harbor a lot of guilt for being an adult in that situation and not helping his son or Natalia. If he was as unaware and helpless as he is leading us to believe he would still be sorry.
The only reason for him to not show guilt and apologize is to cover his own ass. There’s more to this than “poor Michael , what an unaware victim who had no power”. I wholeheartedly believe he was more than complacent in the abuse/neglect.
He said himself years earlier, that her previous adoptive parents gave her away because of her breaking their sons arm so willingly harming them. He also knew and saw all the abuse through his ex and sons as well as that Jacob throw her down the stairs. All was displayed in previous videos. There was even a video with his lawyers, where he jokes saying he can even produce the crying version. He even managed to blame his wife for his porn addiction. I truly don't understand why Michael and Kristine got off with no justice served to Natalia at all.
I watched three videos of this and i still dont understand the point
So the issue was that the family adopted her
And they noticed that she grows faster and bigger than the other kids
Over time they notice/suspect that she is a person of dwarfism i assume
And then what like whats the deal with them having a discussion here
I remember hearing something bout them abandoning her or sum but im not sure
Michael constantly sounds like he's talking to a child, so condescending. I hope that Natalia gets to live a; normal, comfortable, happy life after this.
No Michael, you don't get to play victim. Natalia is the victim. 🤬
David Brent has a Doppelgänger...
I recognize a lot of his behavior of that as someone who is under the influence of drugs.
He was present and his wife was abusing a child under their joint care. When she threatened to take their sons away from him/his custody, couldn't he have returned that with the same and use that situation as a reason to remove his boys from their mother. Particularly if she encouraged them to participate in the abuse of another child under their care? Michael divesting himself of responsibility in a situation where he is one of two responsible parties is laughable. It tells me, he was a coward and didn't want to rock the boat. And that he placed another person's wellbeing (who was under his care) below his rocky relationship with his wife. So he still wanted to be with his wife and while he may have had problems with her and her behaviour he co-signed it because he didn't want to upset the family dynamic that he had even if it was only in hope of later obtaining the family dynamic that he wanted. I wonder if he's one of those people who doesn't tell you what's wrong and why it makes them feel that way. He is so manipulative and dramatic that I don't know if he's ever honest about that stuff. I don't trust him. I think he had a difficult relationship with his wife. I do not doubt that she is unpleasant based on events described by Nathalia and Michael. I do think and wonder how much participation Michael has had in Nathalia's situation. Considering his manipulation, lies and omissions
When I watched the whole series recently my gut reaction was that both are lying about some things and I can’t take either word as truth. However, she was at least partially raised by these crazy folk who are clearly invested in image and deception. There’s no way you walk away from what they did to her unscathed. Nobody gets a pass here for me, but I find her deception more understandable.
Is anyone else noticing that Logan seems to be having a really hard time? I'm concerned for him. This is a really heavy topic, Logan, please give yourself a break. We support you
Did I miss something? Why is there a sepia tone over the video?