Which is Faster? | Specialized Enduro vs. Transition Patrol
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 13. 11. 2021
- I took my new Transition Patrol up against my my Specialized S-WORKS Enduro to see which one was faster for myself. The results were so surprising!
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Great video! I still love my Enduro comp though!
When can we expect spire vs enduro?
Weâll make it happen if enough of you would like to see it!
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@@Blake_Cherubini would definitely like to watch that :)
Have to compare 29 to 29er.
@@Blake_Cherubini letâs do it! Would love to see multiple runs. đđŒ
some kind of madness, your time like pro rider. Good comparison, thank you!
Excellent test !
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Very interesting, looks exactly the same to me though given the tiny time differentials and the challenge with lining up frames exactly (due to camera position, camera angle, shutter speed, frame rate and bike position on trail at that exact frame where each laps starts and ends). In each lap there appears to be a point where one bike is behind and then catches up. Nice video, you look to be very consistent on whatever bike you are riding.
Yep, tried my best to keep the start/stop frames as close as possible! Thanks for watching!
Nive vid man keep up the good work
Thanks bud!
Yooooo, that looks so sick. đđ»
BTW, Jackson. Your cousin, suggested me this epic channel. I canât stop watching! I subbed to you on 20 accounts I made đđ€Łđ
Ayyyyy!đ€ thanks for watching and subbing! Shoutout to Jack đ€
@@Blake_Cherubini Yeah! Always welcome! Tell him I commented. Name is: Troy!
Great fall colors at the hill.
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NICE STACHE! I want to see this vid but with the Spire!
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I bet the times would have been even closer with the same brakes. You braked late (or not late, but didn't get the bite you were expecting) and were visibly slower through that one corner on the enduro.
The brake probably sucked because the rotor was bedded to the patrol pads and then you swapped the wheel to a different caliper and pads on the Spesh.... probably got slightly better by the third run as the pads began to bed and form to the rotor.... which if that theory is correct, would align with the Specialized getting faster in subsequent runs.
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I wasnât considering the pads scenario, thatâs sharp. But I did suspect the enduro was faster as he was more comfy up front on the Patrol admittedly.
I like the Patrol! It is also better value for money than the Enduro...does the suspension of the Patrol have the same plushness as that on the Enduro? Waiting for the Spire comparison to the Enduro! Good job guys!
Good video keep it up! I got Enduro 2020 one of the first sw limited paint job ones, still haven't cracked it. Maybe not sending hard enough? I like transition and would like to try some day. Thanks for the video!
Thanks bud! Glad you havenât cracked yours!
This a good channel, i'm subscribing
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Hello ! Whatâs your suspension settings ? Nice vid btw
Sick bikes đ€đŒ
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Great video- Iâve been on the enduro for a season and Iâve got a Patrol frameset on order. Iâm curious if the patrol feels as âconfidentâ in the steep and chunky runs as the enduro does? I love my enduro- but in my riding group most of us have been on specialized this year (enduros and sj evos) and while Iâve not broken my bike, weâve seen 4 cracked frames. Makes me nervous. Iâd also be curious on the spire in alloy.
Thanks bud! Crazy to hear about your issues as well with the quality of the Enduro frames⊠Iâve had no issues with feeling confident on this bike anywhere. Both bikes handle it all well!
People over tighten the headset causing cracks. Not always a frame problem. Sometimes a user error.
@@scorch0248 only thing is- the cracks that I saw on friends bikes were 1)chainstay- stumpy Evo- 2)chainstay- enduro- 3) down tube stumpy Evo, and 4) BB area on a specialized fuse- 2 of these were warrantied and two ended up as crash replacement.
Hey, I can see that you're wearing chest protection as well under your shirt, can you guys make a video about your riding gear/protection?
Wearing the Fox Titan Race Subframe chest protector and G-Form Pro Rugged knees
What camera setup?! looked mint
It would be cool to see the spire and enduro compared on a little longer course.
On such similar bikes it's good to see it's the rider that makes all the difference. If you'd want to get some difference in times you'd probably need to do longer and more technical trail/ natural trail with more roots and rocks? What do you think?
Totally agree!
Which felt more comfortable? And what's your height and reaches of the bikes? I'm trying to sort some bike sizes out for myself. Love the comparison videos!
Felt a little more comfortable on the patrol. Just feels like a little more feedback and a little easier to maneuver. Iâm 6 foot. Not sure about the reaches off the top of my head
What's your stem length? 35 right?
I'd like to see more comparison videos, but vs a totally different class bike. For example, how much slower is an entry level FS trail bike, or against a similarly spec'd modern and slack hardtail.
Good idea!
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Do it in a 3 min trail ,its interesting how the 3rd lap go to the Enduro, Like it
What size is that enduro.. im looking for one..S5? And I agree with you about the Hayes. It's like the power fades away when your going fast down hill.
Itâs an S4!
have you guys ever tried TPR brakes?
Cracked my Enduro inside the head tube. Already got another frame built up and my s-works warranty frame is on the way. Specialized needs to get their shit together. So many people break their frames.
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How did u find out it was cracked? Was it making noise so u got in there and checked it?
Donât over tighten the headset. Thatâs cracking the head tubes. User error.
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Awesome compare! Do you think the Enduro still is a good bike against newer bikes? I'm in the market for a new bike, and I'm tilting towards the Enduro đđŒ
Itâs definitely still a very good bike! I personally just like the way the Transition bikes ride. Thatâs just personal preference. -Chase
I wonder wether the Patrol is any good for racing ? The narrative seems like it was a pure fun bike. I'm looking for an agile fun bike that still can take a hit and that I can show up with on races with.
Would be my 2nd bike, currently on a Remedy 8. Love it but feel like it is starting to limit me on the rough&steep.
Anyone with some experience/advice on that ? Sry for my english
Would love to see a longer comparison maybe 4 to 5 minutes, and use Garmin, Strava or Trailforks as the timer?
A couple of things: 1. That was a really short run, a longer run would have shown more disparity. 2. Totally disagree with the premise that brakes donât affect speed. If you can come into a turn at higher speeds and buff down fast that is going to be much faster than slowing down much sooner into a turn. Think of a race car, you take the car with better brakes and handling over the car with more horsepower every dayâŠ.because better brakes equals more speed on the course.
Agreed. In regards to 1, I acknowledged that it was a short run multiple times⊠and that I didnât expect it to be that close, so Iâd like to do it on a 3-4 minute run if I do it again. 2, I agree that brakes make a difference. I meant that bars, grips, stem, drivetrain, and other small parts alike donât really affect it. I didnât hear Chase slip âbrakesâ in there when we were filming. Sorry for the confusion
Thanks for the replyâŠ.you looked a lot smoother on the patrol. That ride felt pretty effortless.
You like the Aircraft 2? Looks sick.
Love it other than the whistle the visor makes. Canât hear it when riding but itâs very apparent on GoPro
A 3-5 km long track would give you enough time to actually see and feel a bigger difference between the two bikes! Regardless good video đđœđđœ
Thanks! Definitely interested to see what would happen on a longer track!
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Would you consider getting a spire and turning it into a mullet?
Probably not. It can be done but Iâm not sure why you wouldnât opt for the patrol instead which was designed for a mullet setup.
The bottom bracket is lower on the patrol
With the spire into a mullet and in high setting. You would having a higher bottom bracket.
Is this not a good thing.
And the patrol cannot be a 29r . Where the spire could be both
If thatâs the case, then that becomes a geometry preference for you. I personally donât pay much attention to bb height. Instead, Iâd make sure I like the rest of the bike. Reach, chainstay length, ht angle, st angle, etc. All depends on preference and what your intentions are.
Thank you for your replies.
So, you still prefer the patrol?
Iâm asking because I cannot decide on a patrol or a spire, and itâs itâs doing my head in now.
Iâm thinking patrol and up the suspension to 170/170
But I donât like the idea of being stuck with a mullet.
As the spire gives me 170/170 and I can have both.
Iv been riding a 2012 morewood makula dh
26r
So, either bike will be a big difference
My main concern is bun buzz
Get the Hope Tech 4 V4 with v4 rotors, much better than all the brakes you have mentioned.
That trail looks dumb fun
Super fun!
It seemed like the Enduro picked up time in the chunk and the Patrol rolled faster in the flow.
Iâd say thatâs pretty accurate. Patrol is much more responsive whereas the enduro is more of a couch like ride
since they are enduro bike you need to try it in more enduro trail with more pedal section next time
send'er bud
Senddddd âer Buddddd
Switchs front wheels* doesn't keep the same rotor with the same pads* is suprised they dont work*
@Send 'er Buds I wonder how does the Transition Patrol in climbing? I would appreciate it if you can give me insights on the climbing aspect of this bike. Thank you so much! Subbed!
As with every enduro bike Iâve been on, it climbs decent. Iâm not a strong climber myself so I canât tell a ton of difference in bikes while climbing. Biggest difference maker imo is tires due to rolling resistance
@@Blake_Cherubini super. thanks for your time!
I currently have an enduro and really like it. I have a chance to frame swap to a sentinel. Someone tell me if I should. I ride all mountain stuff int he Pisgah. I like swapping bikes.
So what did you do? I've been so close to pulling the trigger on one or something else
@@LastAphelion I swapped to the stump jumper evo. Just found really good price. It was the right move. So much better all arounder and can ride anything. I believe the sentinel would fall in that same category.
is that black haze junior ?
I think it is lol
Out of curiosity what frame rate did you use on your gopro? Just doing some quick napkin math here but 24fps would make each frame 0.04seconds so a 1 frame difference in start and end frames would be bigger than the victory margin. Either way, you ran a super cool test. Nice work!
It was indeed 24fps but FCPX allows me to move in increments of .01 per âframe.â Tried my best to keep the starts as even as possible. Would like to test it on a longer run so the separation wonât be soooo slim
What are the odds I find a video of someone comparing the 2 bikes Iâm considering buying
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@@Blake_Cherubini you ride windrock a lot? Howâd you like the enduro in the steep and chunky shit? Iâm pisgah local so Iâm at windrock a good bit
I ride there a good bit. Both bikes handle it well. Enduro maybe a little better because itâs a little longer and a tad more travel
Hell yeah. Thatâs why Iâm kinda going with the enduro. Also donât know how I feel about a mullet bike
Mine is for sale! m.pinkbike.com/buysell/3172697/
"it's the rider, not the bike"
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Longer runs and spire runs
I got 2k for the bike lol good videos man
Bikes in the 2Kish and down range sell fast. Ill see 5+k sit forever.
What do these 2 rich kids do for work? Casually ripping around on $10K bikes.
Giveaway mabye?đ€
We could do something! One day weâll giveaway some cool shit like bikes but canât quite do that yetâŠ
Noce bikes! This resulsts are statistically unsignificant, btw. So you can really take care only on your feelings.
Where is the enduro posted for sale?
m.pinkbike.com/buysell/3172697/
i think you should try it on bike you never rode before. just take a day get comfortable wit it. then time it out.
That would be fun!
@@Blake_Cherubini the thing with bike reviews, is that it is a lot personal preference. like the brakes. it all about how it feels. try bike swap for a day. then do a review based on comparison. You want the right bike for the right person.
Question is, which one did YOU want to winđ€Ș
I really enjoy both bikes so I didnât really have a favorite đ I just wanted to keep my runs as consistent as possible
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statistically insignificant numbers...
Never said they were significant
literally margin of error. Its kinda like riding skill matters way more than what bike you're on
Yesđ all bikes nowadays can be ridden fast! Find one youâre comfortable on and send âer!
@@Blake_Cherubini unless itâs me riding the bike, then itâs allllll the bike
You all good now tho with that Ride69 technology or whatever itâs called from Rockyâ
Surprised your struggling to sell the bike, theres barely any stock available. People paying crazy prices for bikes these days
Thatâs what we thought too but itâs just not the case I guess lol
@@Blake_Cherubini got the same issue on trail bike. Maybe Iâll have to sell the frame by itself.
numbers are cap
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ebike is faster and jumps higher
But wait till you have mechanical issues, i.e. motor, drivetrain, battery.
Weird comparison
Explain