John MacArthur: Meeting There at Last: The Perseverance of the Saints
Vložit
- čas přidán 24. 09. 2015
- The biblical doctrine of salvation has past, present, and future aspects to it. In anticipation of heaven, the Bible teaches that every true believer will persevere from this world to the next. As Jonathan Edwards wrote to his daughter Esther on the death of her husband, "Let us all take care that we may meet there at last." This session will consider the comfort and hope of heaven that encourages the saints to persevere in faith to the end of their lives.
This message is from our 2015 Fall Conference, So Great a Salvation: • So Great a Salvation: ...
Purchase this conference as a digital download: www.ligonier.org/store/so-grea...
I have failed so much since I was saved. I hate my sin, I hate my failure to obey, I hate my sinful nature and it disturbs me so much that I can still backslide ( a nice word for sinning) and we have to live with this burden until we die. Before I was saved I didn’t care now it’s a daily battle with the flesh.Thank you so very much my Lord and Saviour Jesus. I couldn’t live without you.
Keep fighting the good fight of the faith sister!
Dont try to do it in your own strength. Keep asking God for His power. Its all by His Holy Spirit. If you havent already, GO ALL IN. Thats where the power and joy of the Lord are found. We need to have a clear conscience to Love the Lord and neighbor as ourself.
God bless u and keeo u
amen sister been in as long struggle with backsliding but god has been gracious to bring me out to him more intimately.
My wife and I lost our first three children due to insufficient lung development. The second three made it. Some years after our last child was born to us, I entered an eleven-year period of wondering, contemplating, ruminating . . . over whether God was just mostly good, to most people, most of the time; OR, was God always good, to all people, all the time. I was blessed, eleven years after beginning this process, with an unexpected gift of conviction that there is no malevolence within the Almighty. As John states here, genuine faith becomes stronger after trials. It is true. Soli Deo Gloria.
You're not reading the same Bible as me. _The Lord keeps all who love him but all the wicked he will destroy._ Psalm 145.20
Beautiful testimony, thank you for sharing ❤. I so enjoyed reading this and was encouraged. Thanks.
@@markgerhart2134 .. You write so kindly. TY
Thank you.
Amen… so encouraging to hear how our loving God has built up your faith🙏
Just coming out of 35 years of Word Faith with no Believers to meet with yet in 3 mon., has been the biggest trial of my Faith ever. For 3 days I was thinking about dieing. I really didn't want to, but seemed like no way out of all my troubles. I'm so glad I heard this teaching today. Even though I have to move, friends & family have pretty much dropped the new me, I do have hope again. Blessed assurance. Please pray for me sister's & brother's. Thank you. 💜✝️💜💜
This is one of the most precious sermons I've ever heard. All glory to God.
I agree with you 🥺🥺
I have a severed handicapped child, now 27 years old. Everyday I pray for her. I never lost my faith. My faith is stronger than ever.
Me too! What a privilege it is too. You’ll never lose it either because Jesus Christ is supplying the faith every moment of your life giving you joy. God is so good!
God bless you... The Lord knows those who are his.
Sorry to hear of your family situation. There is still a joy of life; in the life of every difficult and different situation.
Trying to understand the challenges you both have faced I fall short. Seeing your light shine through God's grace is beautiful. 🙏♥️🙏
It has to be God's Will to get a prayer answered. Prayer is for God and we can ask for nothing. Prayer is for praising God not asking for something.
McArthur has a sermon on correct praying otherwise the prayer is a bad sin of idolatry. look it up?
I have listened to this precious sermon a few times. Probably my all-time favorite MacArthur sermon. Thank you for posting.
I can‘t remember how many times I have listened to this message; every single word pierces that tender part of my soul which cannot be reached by anything else but „the words from God‘s lips“! And this is what I mean when I say: I AM TRULY SATISFIED! Needless to say that - as long as I have breath - I will come back to this precious word in my ears!!! 🙏 ❤
you are confused. your satisfaction isn't important. You should be building God's Kingdom and suffering like Christ. Your looking for your pleasure which is against God. I'll pray that you quit being selfish and start carrying your cross and follow Christ. You need more suffering believe me if u are to follow Christ. Joy is to share pain.
This message gives me confidence, sometimes I question my salvation, I wonder why would Jesus Christ want anything to do with me? I will trust in His promise, I know I can’t earn my forgiveness, I’m saved by His grace and mercy.
@Messerah your write up doesn't make sense.
@Messerah 7th Day Adventist teaching is very misleading. Go somewhere else or get saved. But your 7thDay teaching is truth mixed with deception.
Please consider this:
A man is waiting at a crosswalk of a very busy intersection. He hears the panicking cries of a terrified mother behind him. Turning around he sees a toddler running in his direction, giving every sign the child will run past him and bolt into traffic. The man could effortlessly extend his hand and stop the toddler, saving the child's life. He could also prevent the untold heartaches of a mom watching her child die horribly, a motorist's trauma who accidently kills a person, and the grief of every witness, relative and friend.
Instead the man mumbles to himself "that kid has free will" and does nothing. Brakes screech, vehicles collide, lives are ruined, and one is lost.
_Is that man evil?_
_How is a god who could have just as easily stopped it (and all other catastrophes) also not evil?_
Or do you hold your God to a lower standard than even that single lowly human?
Either your god cannot stop catastrophes, or doesn't care to, or doesn't exist.
That means either your god is powerless, or evil, or imaginary.
Take your pick and choose wisely.
@Messerah
Me too!
I contracted a rare auto-immune disease (1/100,000 odds) 6 yrs ago that would have killed me, but I was spared 2 weeks prior to my son’s birth. This during the same year after having lost 2 brother-in-laws, both younger than 40 to unexpected deaths.
In the moment it seemed my end was imminent; the physical pain in the ER felt like 3rd-degree burns under my skin over every possible pore. When he said “burn away the dross” I remember laying in a tomb of inescapable fire while it burned every single physical nerve. The doctor said “Woa, never seen that.” Never have I felt so helpless and alone; yet I expected death and to meet the Lord face-to-face. But I was spared and I remain because He appoints my beginning and end.
We named our son Clayton, as a reminder (from Jer.17) that we are in the Potter’s hands. He can tear down and rebuild, but in Him is life, either here or eternal. This sermon touches deeply and personally, not just theologically. The worst week of my life matured me like nothing else.
What auto immune disease? My skin burns when it gets cold out, this is the second year and no diagnosis yet.
I keep coming back again and again to hear the same sermon. It has blessed me in so many ways. Thank you Sir.
Thank you Lord Jesus for all of your testing, for convicting me of my sins. I love you more and more everyday. Amen.
This such a powerful and personal, heartfelt message I have ever heard. Your desire to pass on to all believers the Truth of all you preach is most appreciated. So difficult for me to absorb anyone walking out of any sermon you have ever given. Even one that makes someone uncomfortable. Could it be that it home too close? God bless you John and all those who listen to you.
he it's pretty good I haven't found too many errors in his sermons either.
Meanwhile three church of England Bishops have joined the Catholic Church in the last eighteen months partly because OSAS once saved always saved is illogical and counter to scripture
I love what God has wrought through John Mac Arthur in my life !
Yes John is my best friend. we will go to heaven when God calls us. he already has a book of life set up and the names of everyone that will go to heaven in that book. so his purpose will be what is done. that is his will. prayers and other human efforts won't change anything impossible.
Only Jesus saves not the pastor!
@@ggturner13 I praise father John macarthur he is all I see and hear I worship him on my knees 24 hours a day 😮
@@nicholasschlegel6018 you worship John MacArthur?
@@negro722 not really
John Chapter 10 has helped me through many hard times in my faith. Thank you Jesus for your grace
Rev MacArthur you are my real teacher. THANK YOU
Amazing sermon and so true.
I've failed and failed but God compels me to carry on.
One foot after the other keep running the race brother.
i'm from philippines ..thank you for the post...i have been following all reformed teachings ..i was so blessed and enlightened...GOD bess you all!
@sojourner123 ct I am also from the Philippines kabayan and finally i meet someone that like me, follow reformed teachings. I am so delighted.
Finally, where have you been guys?
Isang bulaang propeta si John Mcarthur. Ang kaligtasan aya nasa Pananampalataya lamang kay Jesus Christ. Isa syang reprobate. Magsaliksik kayo
@@AhmedPuno seriously get a life
Im from the philippines too!
I hope reformed faith get revived in the philippines ❤️
If we are truly seeking God, He will open our ears to the truth. So even though it is painful at first, I thank God each time my heart is convicted by the teaching of Dr. John MacArthur. We can depend on the fact that God never changes so it must be the true believers that are being changed by the truth (God's word).
Amen 🙏
To God be the glory... God bless Ptr. John Macarthur...
I have been so blessed by this. I keep coming back to the sermon. What a powerful message!
Sam Nakale
czcams.com/video/UX-V4RFGFq8/video.html
@Messerah What are you writing? Too complicated. The word of God is simple and not complicated. If you give your hearts to Jesus and he saves you. He'll keep you. That does not mean that you may not have struggles or fall into temptation but his mercy and grace will keep.
I was saved at 9 years of life. I have been concerned because of a previous message that I was truly saved. I lost all connection to church. My mother a Jehovah's witness. I attended JW bible studies. I left them when a friend of my aunts made it clear that they did not believe Jesus was God.
I never forgot the gospel. Bits and pieces were foggy.
I was introduced to Homosexuality but it discussted me .My attempt at drugs was a failure because I could not get into it. My mind went to Aunt and MY god.
You need to come back to the Saviour. He that cometh to him, he will in no wise cast out. If you remain in your sin, you'll be lost like Judas Iscariot.
You belong to Jesus, not to Satan...that's why you were disgusted by sodomy, not attracted to drugs. Praise the Lord and I pray you're going to a Biblical Church.
The Word never changes, is and always has been relevant for every age and stage of life, and throughout all our historical times. We have a hope, an anchor for our soul, that can not die. Thank you, Pastor John MacArthur for your incredible prophetic, spiritually-biblical trustworthy, deeply biblically professionally researched preaching. Your rewards are innumerable for all eternity for your highly gifted, talented, incredibly disciplined consistency, deeply researched for presenting the Word of God for all the ears who choose to hear and believe, receive, be revived and renewed in their thinking and living, to honor and glorify God. Blessings for many more years with strength, grace, mercy, and energy to keep on occupying until our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ returns for His bride, the church of the Living God. Mucho Gracias
you are right when you say the WORD never changes, But also Gods ONR HOLY Church never changes !! Meanwhile three church of England Bishops have joined the Catholic Church in the last eighteen months partly because OSAS once saved always saved is illogical and counter to scripture
Those who persevere in the faith to the end WILL persevere in the faith to the end.
Very thankful to have a Living Savior who has "gifted" those that believe, with HIS perseverance. Within Mr. MacArthur's gospel...you cannot have assurance you are even saved UNTIL AFTER you persevere and "when" must you persevere till? Death? A few years? The very end? Aren't you thankful to have a Living Savior who has "gifted" those that believe with HIS perseverance.
You said Johns gospel and correctly it is only the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Man can do nothing w/o Christ doing it for him. read Rom 3:10,11,12.
I love this sermon
It's great
I needed this Revelation
Thank you GOD 🔥🔥🙏🙏
Only one thing to say right now. How Blessed you have been John, to have been given such a depth of understanding of the word of God and the ability to teach and speak, to share this gift with as many others who hear you. God will continue to Bless you always.
Meanwhile three church of England Bishops have joined the Catholic Church in the last eighteen months partly because OSAS once saved always saved is illogical and counter to scripture
Thank you John Macarthur and your ministries 🥰🥰
this is the best sermon of all time love the message.
@Messerah Go away. Your messed up 🤪
Come to the Saviour and let go of all the deceptions from 7th Day Adventist. So much errors in their teaching.
i would think that the sermon on the mount would be the best....
@@negro722 Exactly ,,, Meanwhile three church of England Bishops have joined the Catholic Church in the last eighteen months partly because OSAS once saved always saved is illogical and counter to scripture
Thank you for this. Helped me tremendously and hopefully a friend in need of understanding and rightly dividing the Word of Truth. I hope to attend RBC in the next five years. God bless!
GLORY YO GOD.THANK YOU FOR THIS ENCOURAGING MESSAGES.
wonderful message
My grandmother born during the great depression in the deep south, daughter of a moonshiner who found her own way to salvation use to always tell me throughout my childhood: "GOD doesn't test the weak".
this is heresy. God says
when you are weak then you are strongest. Also, no man finds salvation. John6:44 God has to give you the gift of faith and God saves you. Man does nothing!
The weak will enter the kingdom. Sermon on the mount Matt 5,6,7
@@ggturner13 heresy is an extremely strong word. I don't really think that one should be using the word heresy in this case. Jesus and Satan are brothers is plain heresy you can call out, I'm not so sure this counts as out andout clear heresy. I think found her own way to salvation would be more suggesting that her family didn't play any real part in it, not that she literally found it on her own.
Jesus and Satan are NOT brothers, or am I misunderstanding?
@@suethomas8394 Jesus and satan are NOT brothers. I'm pressy sure that's a JW belief, and I'm saying that is something you can call out as plain heresy.
The new life that is eternal is of the Holy Spirit... The Holy Spirit is Himself the seal of salvation... The Holy Spirit will present to Jesus His bride ..washed, sanctified and redeemed... Shalom and Maranatha!
Congratulations John n wife on your 50th yr anniversary 🥰🥰
I couldn't leave this on
Sermon
Strange fire 🔥🔥
Don't ever give up on her, our God is able to care for her
Hebrews 3 (NKJV)
12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end,
Thanks for this preaching!
FATHER, MOTHER, CHILDREN, THIS IS THEE FAMILY OF GOD LIFE FOR LIFES LIVING. FAMILY WORKS TOGETHER.🌹☀️🔥❤️🕊️👥💯
Amen thanks pastror john macarhur you give me so much hope with the truth of the bible God bless!!!!
Excellent!
Thank you for the truth!
God bless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you sir John..
love James White, "GREAT" teacher.
this is not james white...
I love JOHN he is my master and LORD I worship him 24 hours a day on my knees praying to see his heaven in my mouth
you said you worship John MacArthur. that is a terrible sin. God is who you worship and only God. You're real confused about a human being pastor on earth who is delivering God's message to you. God lets MacArthur do what he does has nothing to do with mankind. mankind is wretched and sinners and corrupt to the core. Amen in Christ our Lord. amen
if you are worshiping MacArthur, you're committing one of the worst sins that Christ told us in his commandments. you don't worship any human. all humans are bad. not one is good. that is a quote from the Bible.
@@ggturner13 Hey Gordon - Rumor has it that Mario Lanza was gay. 😉😉😉
@@ggturner13 🤪
If you worship John, you will definitely go to Hell. We only worship one true God. Be careful. John wouldn't like you saying that you
worshiped a man.
Jesus died for our sins, He’s the way to eternal salvation. Join his Catholic Church ❤️
He is GOD to me
man you got some issues.....
To say John is God Will send you to hell for eternity
@@ggturner13 Gordon, this guy is an obvious lost, sick minded, fruitcake - don't waste your time....
I'm glad John MacArthur appreciates the Westminster Confession. Tell him to read the section on Baptism hehe
I once sent a text to pastoac MacArthur giving my opinion and had no right to say what I said although I don't agree with all of his teaching he is a brother in christ and I ask God for his forgiveness of my criticism. God bless him and help him.
The faith that fizzles at the finish had a flaw from the start.Dr.Steven j lawson.
Must obay his every command
I believe in the perseverance of the saviour.
Jesus is Lord God Almighty clothed in unsinful humanity and He is the author of eternal life to all who trust Him alone for salvation.
This means that saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ alone for salvation.
AMEN
Do you love Jesus? Listen to the end and be blessed.
The scripture states that Jesus is able to keep us from falling, meaning falling into sin. If Jesus does not have the power to do what those words say, what will make the sinner believe that He has the power to save him?
You've misunderstood...Jesus has the power to keep us from losing our salvation, which is God's gift not by our own works. However we have free will, so although we Saints should hate sin, occasionally we do sin. So surrender, repentance daily to Jesus, is a must. That's our responsibility.
I disagree. But I pray that this message encourages it's listeners to stay faithful, and recognize how Awesome and Loving GOD Is.
what is it exactly you disagree with?
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Amen
🦁🐑🕊My LORD My God My Shepherd My King My Salvation My King My Light My Love My Immanuel My Protector My Grace My Hope My Faith My Truth My Provision My My Jehovah Word of Jehovah My Endurance My Reward My Surety My Defence My Rock And My Refuge My All My Friend My Teacher My Guidance My LORD Unchanged Unmoved Undefeated and Never Undone He Is The IAM That IAM Omnipresent Omniscient Omnipotent Omnibenevolent He Always is He Always Will He AlwaWill be LORD From Everlasting To Everlasting of Everlasting In Everlasting Glory Glory Hallelujah Amen Amen In John 1:1 In The Beginning Was The Word And The Word was with God and the Word was God John 5"24 John 8:58 Aramaic Translation Timeless Truth I Tell You That Before Abraham Was Born IAM The Living God John 8:58 Gideons Translation Truly Truly I Tell You That Before Abraham Was IAM Choose Jesus Christ Choose Life Eternal🦁✝️🕊🐕🦺🧍✝️❤❤❤❤❤🦁🕊
A note to the Blessed John MacArthur. As far as I know, no one has addressed something I need to know, as I am already nearly 90 years of age. Somehow, I need an answer and I turn to you in faith that you will answer, be it by sermon or one of the short messages you have been putting out. What happens if you decide to be cremated instead of a bodily burial? Does that matter at the time of the rapture? I dont think it does, because many believers have died in multiple ways, but not by choice. Cremation is now a choice, so John what is your answer to this? Can someone let me know? Thank you so much.
maam, I haven't seen anything in the Bible that would condemn someone for being cremated - that ain't nothing to fret over - God Bless you -
II think that assurance come through trusting in God's word.
Amen, plain and simple sister. Just Believing and trusting in it. ' )
John 5:24 and John 1:1
👍👍👍
Isn’t Peter the best and worst of each one of us?
The eternal life that is within us is the Holy Spirit, in order to inherit eternal life we must continue to walk in the Spirit, Galatians 6: 8-9 "the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life, and let us not grow weary of doing good for in due season we will reap as long as we don't give up." The Holy Spirit empowers us to walk in and keep our salvation it doesn't possess us and control us forcing us to keep salvation. The perseverance of the saints wasn't taught until John Calvin in the early reformation being completely absent from all Christian literature for the first 1500 years.
5th point of calvinism!
God enables the elect to run the race!
I prefer the Nicene Creed. The Westminster confession reads like an insurance manual or some other legal document.
Interesting. I've got an observation on that, as most people in the American evangelical church today probably tend to agree with the general sentiment you're making.
My observation is that the American Evangelical Church prefers ambiguity to clarity, and pragmatic brevity over truthful depth and abundance of supports in scripture and elsewhere.
@@dwightthoren8793 not all American Evangelical churches....
Ephesians 1:13-14. Second Timothy 2:13. Romans 8:9 Without the Spirit of God there is no salvation. With the Spirit we have eternal life. Ephesians 4:30. And grieve not the Holy Spirit, in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. The preseverence of the saints is the tribulation saints what will have to persevere to the end to keep from taking the mark of the beast. Revelation 14:9-13. We have eternal life now. Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the POWER of God unto salvation to EVERY ONE THAT BELIEVETH, TO THE JEW FIRST, AND ALSO TO THE GREEK. John 3:16-18. Believers can no longer be condemned, but unbelievers are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. First Corinthians 1:18 and First Corinthians 1:21.
First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETENAL LIFE. We have eternal life now. John 6:47. God cannot lie. John 6:40. God cannot lie. John 5:24. Our blessed hope. Romans 6:23. For the penalty for sin is death, but, the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. The GIFT of God is eternal life. NOT FAITH. And it is FAITH apart from works. Faith is not a work. Acts 16:31. The simplicity of the gospel. First Corinthians 15:1-4.
Isaiah 64:6 says 5at our righteousness is as bad as filthy rags. Our righteousness cannot save us, neither can they maintain our salvation.
😁thumb up # 870 👍
Does suicide represent a lack of perseverance by someone thought to have been saved? Anyone know what John has said about that please? We've had family members commit suicide who we thought were believers, very disturbing and distressing. I trust the Lord to do what is right, but it has us concerned to say the least.
If you commit suicide, you have changed God's plan and you will go and live for eternity in Hell.
Laura, we have to endure to the end. Man doesn't own himself;Christ purchased all men with His blood on the cross.
@@ggturner13 did John Macarthur say that? Do you have a scriptural reference to share please? Thank you, I appreciate your feedback.
I agree that if any of us play God and whether we murder others or ourselves it's an egregious sin. Some have said Jesus forgives all our sins, those we've committed and those we will commit in the future (impulsively, not embracing sin habitually), and suicide could be chosen impulsively, especially by those suffering from mental anguish. My niece was such a person and I'm still grieving though it's been over five years.
Some (not all ) suicides are demonic torment and influence - and the ONLY way out of that unfortunate dilemma is turning completely to God, any other method such as secular therapy or attempting to go any other way than God is going to fail - your key word in your query is "thought" to have been saved - if they truly were saved - God would have given them the strength to persevere because the Bible says that God will not put any burden on the saved that they cannot bare - and since after taking your own life, you are condemned, they could not have been truly saved to start with because once saved, always saved - I hope this helps you. God Bless you and your family.
@@negro722 that's what resonates with me. My family wouldn't want to believe that sad truth. If one is totally surrendered to Jesus, we want to live FOR Him, His plan for our lives and suicide is antithetical to that for sure.
Thank you for responding.
Which would you believe, the Bible or the the Westminster interpretation. Jesus came in the flesh, died on the cross, and resurrected to save His people from sins (Matthew 1:21 ) due to the Law given to Moses. The Law in which we all end up sinners. Jesus came to call the sinners to repentance and fulfill the Law; to free us from the bondage of the Law; to release us from the power of sin and death; so that we become righteous new creation and be reconciled with God for we cannot be righteous by doing the works of the Law. Jesus commanded us to love thy neighbor to fulfill the righteous requirement of the Law. Jesus first coming was not intended so that we can declare our souls "saved" from the punishment of eternal fire in Hell. That would be on Jesus second coming.
bo ang Sorry, that is blatantly circular thinking.
Jesus said to fulfill the law, as Jesus is God! God can't just contradict himself and God's character certainly wouldn't allow it. That doesn't mean you're damned if you don't fulfill the law perfectly. Only Christ has done that.
Here is your thinking. "Jesus died so that fallen man can be reconciled to God. Jesus tells fallen man to not be fallen and thus when fallen man continues to be fallen he is unreconciled to God."
Here is the next logical progression of your train of thought. "Since fallen man cannot be righteous, then therefore Christ died in vain."
Faith without works is dead(James), but one is not saved by works. Go read your Bible, if you won't listen to Pastor MacArthur.
Do you judge others when they do not love their neighbor?
Paul has something to say about that.
Romans 2:1
"Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.”
If you think you are righteous under the law, imposed by God the Father or by Jesus, you are gravely mistaken.
It is by grace and faith alone we are saved.
All I can offer you is a prayer.
In love and to God alone be the glory,
Stephen Young.
I think you misunderstood the simple word "save". So let us start from basics to avoid misunderstanding as to the real purpose of Jesus first coming by taking one simple question at a time : Did Matthew 1:21 state that Jesus came in flesh "to save his people from their sins" or "for the salvation of their souls and to set His people eternally secured" from punishment?
bo ang Matthew 1:21 21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus,[f] because he will save his people from their sins.”
The Bible is inerrant. God does not contradict himself. Therefore one cannot interpret one single verse of scripture in such a way that contradicts another single verse of scripture. One must interpret scripture through the lens of all other scripture.
Philippians 1:3-1:6
I thank my God upon every remembrance of you, 4 always in every prayer of mine making request for you all with joy, 5 for your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now, 6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ; "
"From the (First Day) until now"
As a stinky, fallen, depraved, deprived, corrupt, sinful, dead in my trespasses, worker of inequity, with a small spark of regeneration from God, not from my own merit for the reasons listed before, He who had begun a good work in me was and does complete it in me until the day of Jesus Christ.
Sorry. Continue on with your logical progression/deductive argument.
Let us take one verse at a time. So we that we won't be having confusion. Are we in agreement that verse in Matthew 1:21 stated Jesus will save his people from their sins, and there is nothing stated "for the salvation of their souls and to set His people eternally secured" from punishment?" If yes, then the next basic question on what basis His people committed sins. Is it due to the Law given to Moses?
bo ang For the breaking thereof. For the Jew and for the gentile who has not heard the law.
Continue.
2²
At 24:00. Mcarthur says,"The DOCTRINE of the perseverance of the saints says that "TRUE BELIEVERS WILL PERSEVERE"
The doctrine(of calvin)may say that BUT THE BIBLE DOES NOT. We are told TO PERSEVERE , NOT THAT WE WILL. God bless u saints
check your Bible some more....
@@negro722 Please show me because I haven't seen it. I see scriptures say IF we abide in him ,not we WILL abide at him.
Leviticus 25:23
And remember, the land is mine, so you may not sell it permanently. You are merely my tenants and sharecroppers!
Matthew 21:38-40 Living Bible
38 “But when these farmers saw the son coming, they said among themselves, ‘Here comes the heir to this estate; come on, let’s kill him and get it for ourselves!’ 39 So they dragged him out of the vineyard and killed him.
40 “When the owner returns, what do you think he will do to those farmers?”
🤜♂️🔺️✡🔻♀️🤛
Isn't it peculiar how some people have itchy skin? especially itchy scalps, no matter what brand of anti itch shampoo they use none of them work at all. The manufacturers blame dandruff but it's not dandruff.
If it all becomes too irritating people go to skin specialists who invariably direct them back to the use of anti dandruff shampoos. a waste of time and money.
The itch becomes so bad that they are continually scratching their head and attacking it with combs and brushes, it's almost as if they are cursed.
The worst times are when they are in company, say a Dinner or a Party and they know everyone is looking their way, they try to be discreet but it's so obvious as they scratch and scratch, so embarrassing.
Then there is that itch on their backs, and it always seems to be in a spot they can't reach with either hand, nobody carries a back scratcher with them. Elbow itch is the worst, right on the elbow of either one arm or both. They have to scratch it and as soon as they stop it gets worse. Elbow itch can last for weeks.
People with a plethora of itches should look back into their past history and try to remember if they have offended or insulted anyone who seemed a little different or had different religious beliefs, especially Pagans or Satanists.
They should go out of their way to find those people and apologize. They might feel a little better.
Why wont this goat go be with his maker already.
@14:04 Peter is a small living stone,
a piece of rock built apon a mass of rock,
Jesus the foundation
(cornerstone the builders rejected).
Peter is a living stone of the assembly,
1 Pet 2:4,5; John 1:42
in the building of the body of Christ.
Only Jesus is the Foundation.
Satan cannot enter Jesus.
Perseverance of the saints=works salvation=no heaven
+Salvationbyfaith Without works
May you receive fully God's grace, mercy and peace.
"Perseverance of the saints=works salvation=no heaven"
I read this as if 'perseverance' applies to the 'doing' of works.
I think, while you may see ongoing works as fruit, perseverance pertains more to 'in believing in your heart'. We continue to believe, and in response to that continued belief inside, we continue to bear fruit in the form of works as a result of that internal ongoing (true) belief.
So, the subtle, but very key, difference here is in what you define as the 'cause' and what you define as the 'effect'.
Works cannot 'cause' salvation, but true salvation (internal ongoing faith) definitely 'causes' works. Only God (and maybe the individual) can really tell the difference between the cause and the effect, so I find it easy to get confused as to where someone really stands simply through my limited external observation.
Have I misunderstood you?
Actually, it is understood more like this. True born again believers are indwelt by the Holy Ghost. They persevere because they are born again, not to be born again. We don't live for God to be saved, but rather we live for God because we are saved. God gets all the glory. We get no glory.
@@adddaniel2479 Amen -
Perseverance of saints = no assurance of salvation especially if you lived a very godly life doing good works, but suppose at the time of death, a Calvinist hadn’t attended church for three straight Sundays due to laziness? You will end up in Hades.
⚜ *Blessed are the poor in spirit* for theirs is the 😇 *kingdom of heaven.* 😇 Matthew 5:3
Luke 23:43
And Jesus replied, “Today you will be with me in 🌺 Paradise. 🌺This is a solemn promise.”
[9:111] GOD has bought from the believers their lives and their money in exchange for 🌺 *Paradise.* 🌺 Thus, they fight in the cause of GOD, willing to kill and get killed. Such is His truthful pledge in the Torah, the Gospel, and the Quran-and who fulfills His pledge better than GOD? You shall rejoice in making such an exchange. This is the greatest triumph.
[53:38] No soul bears the sins of another soul.
[53:39] Every human being is responsible for his own works.
Matthew 6:14-15
Your *heavenly Father* will forgive
you if you forgive those who sin against you; but if you refuse to forgive them, he will not forgive
you.
Mark 11:25
But when you are praying, first forgive anyone you are holding a grudge against, so that your *Father in heaven* will forgive you your sins too.”
🎺 🎙 The True Family of Jesus 🎙🎺
🔥 Whoever does what God wants is my brother and sister and mother.” Mark 3:35 GOD’S WORD Translation
6 Men can only reproduce human life, but the Holy Spirit gives new life from heaven; 7 so don’t be surprised at my statement that
🔥🐍🔥 *you must be born again!* 🔥🐍🔥
26 But our mother-city is the heavenly Jerusalem, and she is not a slave to Jewish laws. Galatians 4:26 Living Bible
🔱🔥🔱
Psalm 82:6 Living Bible
6 I have called you all “gods” and “sons of the Most High.”
❎ *For those CLAIMING to be god(dess):* 9 You will no longer say that you are a god when you face those who k--- you. *You will be a human, not a god, in the hands of those who K I L L you.* Ezekiel 28:9 (GW) 🎇🏁
“And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” Matthew (27:46)
Matthew 27:45-47 Complete Jewish Bible
45 From noon until three o’clock in the afternoon, all the Land was covered with darkness. 46 At about three, Yeshua uttered a loud cry, “Eli! Eli! L’mah sh’vaktani? (My God! My God! Why have you deserted me?)”[a] 47 On hearing this, some of the bystanders said, “He’s calling for Eliyahu.”
John 10:30
The Father and I are one.”
Isaiah 42:8
GOD’S WORD Translation
8 I am the Lord; that is my name.
I will not give my glory to anyone else or the praise I deserve to idols.
🔥 Galatians 3:13 (KJV)💫 13 Christ...being made a curse for us..💥
🌈☔ 36 Jesus replied, “My kingdom is not of this world [nor does it have its origin in this world]. John 18(AMP)
⚡🔥⚡ 36 “I am not an earthly king....John 18 (TLB)
Isaiah 42:8
GOD’S WORD Translation
8 I am the Lord; that is my name.
I will not give my glory to anyone else or the praise I deserve to idols.
🔥🔥🔥💩🐍💩🔥🔥🔥
Jeremiah 26-27 Like a thief, the only shame that Israel knows is getting caught. Kings, princes, priests, and prophets-all are alike in this. They call a carved-up wooden post their father, and for their mother they have an idol chiseled out from stone. Yet in time of trouble they cry to me to save them!
[3:59] The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be," and he was.
*3:59 The "equality" of the creation of Jesus and Adam is confirmed mathematically; Jesus and Adam are mentioned in the Quran the same number of times; 25 times each.
[3:60] This is the truth from your Lord; do not harbor any doubts.
Luke 8:21TLB
he remarked, 🚨 *“My mother and my brothers are all those who hear the message of God and obey it.”* 🚨
🚨🐍🚨 *Who could oppose GOD if He willed to annihilate the Messiah, son of Mary, and his mother, and everyone on earth?*
Matthew 19:17
“When you call me good you are calling me God,” Jesus replied, “for God alone is truly good. But to answer your question, you can get to heaven if you keep the commandments.”
Mark 10:18
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked. “Only God is truly good!
👉 *[90:4] *We created the human being to work hard (to redeem himself).* 👈
*90:4 See the Introduction and Appendix 7 for the purpose behind our creation.
[90:5] Does he think that no one will ever call him to account?
[90:6] He boasts, "I spent so much money!"
[90:7] Does he think that no one sees him?
[90:8] Did we not give him two eyes?
[90:9] A tongue and two lips?
[90:10] Did we not show him the two paths?
[90:11] He should choose the difficult path.
[90:12] Which one is the difficult path?
[90:13] *The freeing of slaves.*
👉 Matthew 15:24 👈
Then he said to the woman, 😔 *“I was sent to help the Jews-the lost sheep of Israel-not the Gentiles.”* 😔
Satan’s attacks are more pronounced at this time in history, especially toward the Saints. Because there has been such a lack of Truth being taught, many are tempted and do not recognize the difference between the beguiling presence of Satan, ( the Angel Of Light) and the Pure and Holiness Of God. Too much “glitter”.
once saved always saved is not what the bible say or what Jesus says. no one wants to preach truth because its not popular.
Perhaps you may not realize, dear Alex Cowie, that many among the TRUE believers are like tares among the wheat, for the tares are only distinguished from the wheat by God Himself! A true believer in Christ WILL persevere and will not cave in because he has steadfast FAITH in the POWER of GOD ALMIGHTY and the joy awaiting him in glory! Pastor John is spot on, Hallelujah!
It is actually astounding that John MacArthur would openly admit that this Doctrine of "Perseverance of the Saints," derives from the Westminster Confession of Faith, and not exclusively from Scripture. He said that he believes, "That they got it right." 👿👿👿...Then referring to these creeds writers as the Westminster devines. To think of such a reference towards a man as errant is eternally understated. Such a commentary is blasphemy. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
Stay.
"Grabs Kleenex"
The gospel according to John.. Mcarthur.
You are a demon
Dustin Who? Mcarthur is a devil. Beware.
@@AhmedPuno he preaches the Bible. That's not demonic
Where does the bible say we have been given an "UNDYING FAITH"?
I read that we are to keep the faith,stand firm in the faith.not wander from the faith,fight the good fight of the faith,TO GROW MY FAITH,etc. if i have already been given a faith that is "undying " then why am i told these things!?
Bill Erickson Friend, where does the faith comes from? Who is the initiator?
Bill Erickson
Do you believe that the Bible teaches that God is Sovereign over everything visible and invisible, Psalms 103:19, Daniel 4:35, Psalms 135:6, Isaiah 45:7, Ephesians 1:11-12, proverbs 21:1, Deuteronomy 32:39, Isaiah 14:24. There many, many, more Scripture on the Sovereignty of the Almighty God. He is, I AM THAT I AM, you
will do well if you humble yourself before the Almighty God and give Him glory for who He is. You will never earn salvation by your works, (i.e.) your free will never. And if you truly believe that you possess a FREE WILL . I have a proposition for you. Since you believe you are a free moral agent, although a fallen one, a sinner like all of us, then please why don't you enlighten us how you use your free will, to never sin. If you really believe that you have a free will, stop sinning, use your free will and live a perfect holy life before God. There is none righteous no not one. Romans 3:10-12. Can't you see how foolish it is to believe that sinners who are dead in trespasses and sins, Ephesians 2:1-5. Please read it
can use their fallen free will and choose by themselves with their free will Jesus Christ and His Salvation. If you believe that, then God is going to rebuke you for your pride, and your boasting. No true born again Christian, will boast in His presence. 1 Corinthians 1:29. Ephesians 2:8-9.
Everyone of us who are saved, are born again, by the Holy Spirit of God. John 3:1-21. The Holy Spirit by regeneration of our spirit, soul, brought us back to spirutal life, when we were born again by Him. We were dead spirituality before we got born by the Holy Spirit. Where is your free will in this great work of the Almighty. Foolishness all you who believe because of your free will, you are saved. Nothing but fallen sinful pride, on the part of those, who try to steal God's God's glory and His His Devine power by which He brought us to faith in Him and Salvation through the cross of His beloved son Jesus Christ, who died for us His sheep. John 10:14-16. Jesus said, I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known by My own. As the Father knows Me, even so i know the Father, and I lay down My life for the sheep.
And other sheep I have ( Gentiles) which are not of this fold. Them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice, and there will be one flock, and one shepherd. Read these words of Jesus very carefully, and you will know that He, who alone has the free will to grant salvation to whomever He pleases as the Father God, draws us to Him. John 6:44. Jesus said, No man ( that includes you Bill) can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draws Him, and I will raise Him up at the last day. You still want to insist on your so called free will. Your argument is not with John MacArthur, nor me, nor anyone else. Your argument is with the Almighty God and His word of truth. You better humble yourself before Him, and repent of your foolish pride and give Him glory. He holds your soul in life. Psalms 66:9. Or maybe you believe that by your free will you are able to leave and breathe and have your being. Nonsense, this so called fallen human will. Nonsense. Foolishness. Pride, and we all know what God thinks of man's pride He hates it, why because it is Satanic since he originated pride within himself. May the Lord Jesus Christ, open your eyes to His truth.
It's God Who makes our faith grow, it does not grow by ourselves.
@@halilalexanderzeverboom3465 I agree, but it also does not grow WITHOUT US, OUR COOPERATION WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT . WE HAVE A PART IN IT , WE HAVE A CHOICE .
God bless u my friend
@@billerickson5604 Neither does it die due to our neglect. It is an eternal, immutable give from God. In our rebelliousness, we sometimes walk in darkness, and we can live with a broken fellowship with God. But if you're truly one of His, you will not enjoy your sin. He scourges all whom He loves, and He will make your rebelliousness uncomfortable. But if we persist in that state, it means that our eternal heavenly rewards will be sparse. But we will not be ultimately lost. On the other hand, If we strive to walk in the light, we experience the joy of our fellowship and salvation, and our heavenly rewards will be plenty.
Y'all need to stop lie ing to your people you know that the jews are black and so is Jesus.....
a false teaching Jesus warned the believers in the seven church about sin. anyone living in sin would love this message but its not what the bible says and who teaches this will be held accountable
@AVB2 read closer please i said living in sin. Jesus didnt die on the cross so we have a reason to LIVE IN SIN no im not sinless but I dont live in it.
False prophet, people. Research these people , Plain and simple. One of the wolves the Lord warned you about. Pray for discernment and and pray for your eyes to be opened. Your eternity depends on it.
john macarthur together with his friends from strange conferences loves to despise mock and disdain charismatic preachers and call himself preacher of righteousness
Not true. He is gifted at exposing false doctrine with biblical truths. The charismatic movement needs to be called out. Any large movement with such error needs to addressed.
@@croppedndocked146 he is a mocker and slanderer of charismatics and he is your idol so sad that u worship a mocking preacher
@@TheWordisrael don't watch if the truth offends you
@@laurapug5389 the truth is u elevated john MacArthur into a pedestal ??
@@laurapug5389 yes john macarthur appears righteous but when he mocks charismatics he doesn't sound holy
Love how inconsistent and willing to lie this dude is. It's like he's never read the Bible or used the logic parts of his brain.
S kehler
Yeah ok .. where did u get ur theologians degree?
@@laurapug5389 I graduated from a ministry school & was a pastor, however none of that is needed. Just read the entire Bible and you'll see what I mean. I prefer the NKJV but any version should do the trick.
@@sk7172 okay yes I do read the NKJV thank you
Just was wondering why you say he's lying ?
@@laurapug5389 The opening of his talk he mentions the perseverance of the saints, and claims once saved always saved. Too bad the Bible says otherwise (Hebrews 6:4-8). There's a lot more I could say but there's not enough room here for me to do all the homework for you.
@@sk7172 You lost all credibility when you became insulting and condescending here. Not the Spirit of Christ friend.