I still remember this game like it was yesterday that was an awsome game that made our season look good that was just a huge win I'm an ole miss fan and liked that game HOTTY TODDY!!!!!!
@steviems I know this is from a year ago but GREAT POINT! I am a die hard Buckeye fan. People bashed on us when we lost to Purdue. They play us well every year though. It is not a guranteed win for us. They are not that bad of a team either. You have teams that just play you well regardless of rank or record.
I agree with you. If it werent for this game i highly doubt Florida would have done as well as they did. I am a die hard Ole Miss fan but i do admit we were not better than Florida. Florida simply overlooked us and for some reason we have Florida's number. No matter what team we have we always play Florida close and most of the time beat them. Hopefully we will get that chance again in the 2009 sec title game this year. GO REBS!!!
fact is, Ole Miss has owned UF in recent years. Ole Miss is 3-1 vs. UF since 2002 and UF's only win came against a squad that didn't win a single SEC game. Furthermore, 2 of those 3 victories were in the swamp.
@hansenkd, not sure if this disproves that point. Florida only lost one game that year, and it was to 8-4 Ole Miss. Every other game they played, including the SEC championship game, they won by at least 11 points, and didn't give up anything more than 21 points. The game had repercussions, seeing as how they were ranked 2nd, not 1st. And it's not like they lost to a .500 or under squad.
Florida has nothing to feel bad about. They didn't lose to a floundering 4-8 Ole Miss team... they lost to argueably the 3rd best team in the SEC that season which was a solid 9-4 squad... and hotter than any team at the end of the season!!!
I like the old school way,that's what made college football unique.Where the teams were rewarded rightly,for playing a gauntlet.Not rewarding a team for being the best in a VASTLY inferior conference.The strength of schedule SHOULD matter.Playing WAC teams does not compare to playing SEC teams.Have you even compared the two schedules? lol
Let's be honest. Every title caliber team has that game where they doubt the crap opponent, and they lose when they shouldn't have. Had they tried, they'd have romped Ole Miss by 56, easily.
if we beat the teams were supposed to beat(vandy, jax state, kentucky, etc.) we could build a heck of a program with wins like these. itd help recruiting and keep mississippi players in state. for some reason we always play to the level of our competition. fans also need to get outta the grove and stay in Vaught Hemingway. if i can drive 5 hours to every home game from selma, AL then yall can make that effort to stay in the damn stadium! lets build something special! HOTTY TODDY!
@hansenkd None of that matters. What matters is that a team with a loss won the championship while a team with zero losses existed. That fact alone makes the game against Mississippi a game that had no ramifications and did not count.
First you say ''Losing to a bad team should have consequences''.Then when i prove to you that Ole Miss was actually quite good that year,it's now ''What does it matter if they were good or not?'' LOL
This arguement ends when you compare Florida and Utah's strength of schedule.Seriously,you really want to compare Utah's pop warner opponents,to Florida beating 9 or 10 bowl teams,and three teams who were #1 in the country at one time?Cmon now.
@Brotherfease The problem was that there was a team with zero losses and that zero is less than one. That team (Utah) beat a certain team (Alabama) by a greater margin than Florida did. That was their only common opponent. By rights, Utah should have won the championship. It is for that reason that Florida's loss was a game that didn't count.
What does it matter whether they were good or not? LOSING should still have a consequence, and Florida suffered no consequence for this loss, just like Alabama suffered no consequence for losing to LSU (and gained the benefit of not having to play an extra game) last year. This game did not count, and there's no way for you to argue that it did.
Because teams and schools have such control of which conferences they belong to, and because the conference schedule is something you can avoid. Imagine Boise State making this phone call: "Hey, PAC-12, since we are so much better than Cal and Colorado, we DEMAND to be admitted to your conference at ONCE!" Yeah, that'd work. The caste system is not only unfair, it is evil. It's truly amazing that it's still supported. The four-team playoff is a step in the right direction--not far enough.
This game is the epitome of a Game That Did Not Count. When refuting Bill Hancock's lame pro-BCS argument that Every Game Counts, cite this game. Had this game counted, Utah would be the 2008-2009 National Champion. Therefore, this game had absolutely no repercussions on who won the national championship, and it might as well have not been played.
@hansenkd, I have nothing against the Utah Utes. They had a great season, and won the Sugar Bowl. Job well done. That victory helped them gained credibility and move from a non-AQ school to the Pac-12. However, there are two problems here: 1) During the regular season, they didn't play a single opponent ranked in the top 10. That's a problem. Their schedule was weaker than Oklahoma and Florida. 2) When Utah played their two AQ opponents, they didn't win by much. to be continued.
LOL I didn't say Alabama wanted to lose,but it was a horrible consolation prize.Again,Florida ended their NC hopes in the sec title game.Utah had everything to play for in their ''one game'' schedule PERIOD.Florida was in the exact same position as Alabama the next year.Only difference was,the team had incentive to win for what they thought was meyer's last game.
Against 3-9 Michigan, they won by 2 points. Against 8-4 Oregon State, they beat them by 3 points, and had to comeback to win. Oklahoma ran up the scoreboard against Texas Tech. We didn't see that from Utah. Florida beat every single opponent (besides Ole Miss) by at least 11 points. They also were ranked 4th in offense and defense. Utah? Didn't even crack the top 10 on either side. > Sorry, I don't agree. They certainly deserved to go to a BCS bowl, but NCG? I don't think so.
As demonstrated by last season's despicable all-SEC title game rematch, which rendered another game (this time one called a "game of the century") a meaningless game that didn't count. LSU had to play the conference championship game. Alabama did not. They should have been OUT of the game, and yet this ridiculous system allowed the atrocity to occur.
typical teams who think they just the best in all college history, soon as they lose a game to a team that they think thats less superior to them they make excuses. a loss is a loss. "nerver underestimate your oppenent"
@alegitpieceofshit lol no problem.. have to say florida has to be my second favorite team. always pull for them.. well unless they play ole miss lol. HOTTY TODDY!
No it doesn't. One loss is one loss and zero losses is zero losses. That's it. The end. Finis. There is NO way for you to advance that argument without saying that this loss was a game that didn't count. You just can't do it. So just admit it. The fact that who you play matters so much more than whether you win or lose shows the basic problem with college football. Can you imagine if the NFL used "strength of schedule?" The common opponent (Alabama) is what really destroys that argument
I don't quite understand the point of this video, or the title. Is it meant to be a diss? Because I'm pretty sure it says clearly we won the national title. You guys will do anything to find something, won't ya'?
The common opponent is Alabama?Yeah,and you going to sit there and tell me that Utah beating a bama team that didn't even want to be there,is comparable to Florida beating a bama team that was one win away from playing for the NC?Are you kidding me?
Maybe Florida deserved the national championship, maybe they didn't. The fact is that we'll never know because the cartel wouldn't allow the decisive game to be played. What is absolutely indisputable is that this game against Mississippi was meaningless and might as well have never been played. Losing to a bad team should have consequences. This loss had none.
@CombatSportFan So how many moral victories do you claim. Get real man. In the 90's 2 wins was a good season. In the 00's 4 was a good season. Don't give me this it was close. Close does not win!
It's funny how this video is title even though Florida only lost this game and won the SEC and won the National Championship. What happened after ole miss beat Florida oh yeah you didn't hear anything about them afterwards, because Florida was BCS bound either way. You don't need to go undefeated to win the SEC or a National Championship. No matter how you got it you still got it and they don't. Suck it bear mascot
Nothing? We were under one of the shittiest coaches we've had in a long time (Muschamp), and the point in time at which you made that comment, we were only one year in under a new HC, and you expect us to just be great? Sorry buddy, it just doesn't work that way. Any great program, after losing a plethora of its most valuable players (Tebow, Harvin, Demps, etc.) and as a result, outputting one of the worst seasons in its history (2013 4-8ers), isn't going to maintain its former glory EVERY single season. It's a time-consuming process. Cliché as it may be, every team has to rebuild at some point. No matter how great their players or coaches are.
Colin White Lmao y'all suck. When was the last time ole miss played in the SEC championship? Garbage. That state has 2 sec teams and they're the 2 worst teams in the sec.
@hansenkd it is funny that you are using grammar errors as a reply because you know that Florida was better and that Utah was not good, in fact they sucked, unlike Florida.
Because you typed the grammmatically abominable "would of," you're probably not even worthy of a response, but I suppose you mean like Alabama destroyed them. And what does the "then" have to do with "now?" Different teams, different times. One thing is still true, though...in the SEC, it doesn't matter if you LOSE! Losses in the SEC don't count, as Saban proved again last year.
In other words, you are in favor of a caste system in which a single division of football (I-A or FBS) has different tiers and, like the Untouchables in India, teams cannot escape their caste no matter how good they are. Hatch was right when he called it Un-American. NFL conferences and divisions have different strengths too, but can you imagine if the NFL took that into account? Whatever, you have not shown in any way how this game mattered--you can't because it didn't.
@CombatSportFan ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! Your crazy. Do you know what their record was from 2000-2010? Guess.... Try 36-93! 2000=3-8 2001=2-9 2002=2-10 2003=2-10 2004=2-9 2005=5-6 2006=4-8 2007=5-7 2008=7-6 2009=2-10 2010=2-10 One winning season gets them out of the dog house? Please dude what the fuck are you talking about? It is always a shocker when they beat an SEC team just like the Ole Miss game. Has bad as Ole Miss is they should beat Vandy just like everyother SEC team.
Whatever. You keep ignoring the main points and nitpicking my words. I called you out for being in favor of a heinous caste system in college football. You didn't answer that charge. Was Ole Miss good? It really doesn't matter. Let's modify it and say that LOSING--period--should have a consequence. And Ole Miss was not as good as Utah or Alabama, no doubt about that. You have yet to address the salient point--Florida lost, suffered no consequence, and the game was meaningless.
I still remember this game like it was yesterday that was an awsome game that made our season look good that was just a huge win I'm an ole miss fan and liked that game HOTTY TODDY!!!!!!
@steviems I know this is from a year ago but GREAT POINT! I am a die hard Buckeye fan. People bashed on us when we lost to Purdue. They play us well every year though. It is not a guranteed win for us. They are not that bad of a team either. You have teams that just play you well regardless of rank or record.
I agree with you. If it werent for this game i highly doubt Florida would have done as well as they did. I am a die hard Ole Miss fan but i do admit we were not better than Florida. Florida simply overlooked us and for some reason we have Florida's number. No matter what team we have we always play Florida close and most of the time beat them. Hopefully we will get that chance again in the 2009 sec title game this year. GO REBS!!!
That loss brought out the best of the gators and there leader Tim Tebow
fact is, Ole Miss has owned UF in recent years. Ole Miss is 3-1 vs. UF since 2002 and UF's only win came against a squad that didn't win a single SEC game. Furthermore, 2 of those 3 victories were in the swamp.
@hansenkd, not sure if this disproves that point. Florida only lost one game that year, and it was to 8-4 Ole Miss. Every other game they played, including the SEC championship game, they won by at least 11 points, and didn't give up anything more than 21 points. The game had repercussions, seeing as how they were ranked 2nd, not 1st. And it's not like they lost to a .500 or under squad.
SEC Baby. Everybody brings their A-game every week!
In other words,you ignored that Ole Miss was actually a good team?Much better than anyone than Utah played the whole season.Thanks
Florida has nothing to feel bad about. They didn't lose to a floundering 4-8 Ole Miss team... they lost to argueably the 3rd best team in the SEC that season which was a solid 9-4 squad... and hotter than any team at the end of the season!!!
@CombatSportFan You do know that this was a 2008 game right? They were pretty bad that year. A lose to them then was bad.
hotty toddy I LOVE TIM TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!! i agree Florida wouldn't be the team it is today without us.
I like the old school way,that's what made college football unique.Where the teams were rewarded rightly,for playing a gauntlet.Not rewarding a team for being the best in a VASTLY inferior conference.The strength of schedule SHOULD matter.Playing WAC teams does not compare to playing SEC teams.Have you even compared the two schedules? lol
Let's be honest. Every title caliber team has that game where they doubt the crap opponent, and they lose when they shouldn't have. Had they tried, they'd have romped Ole Miss by 56, easily.
if we beat the teams were supposed to beat(vandy, jax state, kentucky, etc.) we could build a heck of a program with wins like these. itd help recruiting and keep mississippi players in state. for some reason we always play to the level of our competition. fans also need to get outta the grove and stay in Vaught Hemingway. if i can drive 5 hours to every home game from selma, AL then yall can make that effort to stay in the damn stadium! lets build something special! HOTTY TODDY!
What is that chant Ole Miss does after that win a game?
I would like that. Even if we lose the championship game by 40 points, I'd like to be there.
@hansenkd None of that matters. What matters is that a team with a loss won the championship while a team with zero losses existed. That fact alone makes the game against Mississippi a game that had no ramifications and did not count.
First you say ''Losing to a bad team should have consequences''.Then when i prove to you that Ole Miss was actually quite good that year,it's now ''What does it matter if they were good or not?'' LOL
This arguement ends when you compare Florida and Utah's strength of schedule.Seriously,you really want to compare Utah's pop warner opponents,to Florida beating 9 or 10 bowl teams,and three teams who were #1 in the country at one time?Cmon now.
@thefreashking They will eventually. Just a matter of time. With Urban Meyer there I beleive he can get the team together to do it.
@Brotherfease The problem was that there was a team with zero losses and that zero is less than one. That team (Utah) beat a certain team (Alabama) by a greater margin than Florida did. That was their only common opponent. By rights, Utah should have won the championship. It is for that reason that Florida's loss was a game that didn't count.
What does it matter whether they were good or not? LOSING should still have a consequence, and Florida suffered no consequence for this loss, just like Alabama suffered no consequence for losing to LSU (and gained the benefit of not having to play an extra game) last year. This game did not count, and there's no way for you to argue that it did.
Texas lost to Texas Tech that year,and that had consequences.Then Texas Tech lost to Oklahoma,and that had consequences.
their time is coming...DEC. 5TH.
Because teams and schools have such control of which conferences they belong to, and because the conference schedule is something you can avoid. Imagine Boise State making this phone call: "Hey, PAC-12, since we are so much better than Cal and Colorado, we DEMAND to be admitted to your conference at ONCE!" Yeah, that'd work. The caste system is not only unfair, it is evil. It's truly amazing that it's still supported. The four-team playoff is a step in the right direction--not far enough.
This game is the epitome of a Game That Did Not Count. When refuting Bill Hancock's lame pro-BCS argument that Every Game Counts, cite this game. Had this game counted, Utah would be the 2008-2009 National Champion. Therefore, this game had absolutely no repercussions on who won the national championship, and it might as well have not been played.
@johnc7822 Any body can win on any given day. Rank, record and who they beat does not matter.
@steviems hahahaha okay well hopefully we'll do good this year with the new coach. :D
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@hansenkd, I have nothing against the Utah Utes. They had a great season, and won the Sugar Bowl. Job well done. That victory helped them gained credibility and move from a non-AQ school to the Pac-12. However, there are two problems here: 1) During the regular season, they didn't play a single opponent ranked in the top 10. That's a problem. Their schedule was weaker than Oklahoma and Florida. 2) When Utah played their two AQ opponents, they didn't win by much. to be continued.
Hope to see you Rebs in ATL for a little revenge matchup.
This is comparable to ole miss losing to Jax. State.
LOL I didn't say Alabama wanted to lose,but it was a horrible consolation prize.Again,Florida ended their NC hopes in the sec title game.Utah had everything to play for in their ''one game'' schedule PERIOD.Florida was in the exact same position as Alabama the next year.Only difference was,the team had incentive to win for what they thought was meyer's last game.
Against 3-9 Michigan, they won by 2 points. Against 8-4 Oregon State, they beat them by 3 points, and had to comeback to win. Oklahoma ran up the scoreboard against Texas Tech. We didn't see that from Utah. Florida beat every single opponent (besides Ole Miss) by at least 11 points. They also were ranked 4th in offense and defense. Utah? Didn't even crack the top 10 on either side. > Sorry, I don't agree. They certainly deserved to go to a BCS bowl, but NCG? I don't think so.
And ole miss lost to wake forest the next week and we had only won one til that game.
As demonstrated by last season's despicable all-SEC title game rematch, which rendered another game (this time one called a "game of the century") a meaningless game that didn't count. LSU had to play the conference championship game. Alabama did not. They should have been OUT of the game, and yet this ridiculous system allowed the atrocity to occur.
typical teams who think they just the best in all college history, soon as they lose a game to a team that they think thats less superior to them they make excuses. a loss is a loss. "nerver underestimate your oppenent"
38-10
Kevin Coffer Florida 13 Alabama 32
i worl with ghe guy who blocked the kick. kentrelle Lockett
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He lived In Jacksonville and worked 3rd shift st citibank. True story. Torn knees and didnt make pros
thats my cousin marcus temple
@alegitpieceofshit lol no problem.. have to say florida has to be my second favorite team. always pull for them.. well unless they play ole miss lol. HOTTY TODDY!
No it doesn't. One loss is one loss and zero losses is zero losses. That's it. The end. Finis. There is NO way for you to advance that argument without saying that this loss was a game that didn't count. You just can't do it. So just admit it. The fact that who you play matters so much more than whether you win or lose shows the basic problem with college football. Can you imagine if the NFL used "strength of schedule?" The common opponent (Alabama) is what really destroys that argument
Ha gator meat! Hotty Toddy
I don't quite understand the point of this video, or the title. Is it meant to be a diss? Because I'm pretty sure it says clearly we won the national title. You guys will do anything to find something, won't ya'?
The common opponent is Alabama?Yeah,and you going to sit there and tell me that Utah beating a bama team that didn't even want to be there,is comparable to Florida beating a bama team that was one win away from playing for the NC?Are you kidding me?
Maybe Florida deserved the national championship, maybe they didn't. The fact is that we'll never know because the cartel wouldn't allow the decisive game to be played. What is absolutely indisputable is that this game against Mississippi was meaningless and might as well have never been played. Losing to a bad team should have consequences. This loss had none.
@pookieprime12 Gaters got they ass kicked hahaha
@CombatSportFan So how many moral victories do you claim. Get real man. In the 90's 2 wins was a good season. In the 00's 4 was a good season. Don't give me this it was close. Close does not win!
Whatever. There is no way, absolutely no way, you can use scheduling to trump the argument that zero losses
You know, if they would have actually let Florida and Utah, you know, PLAY THE GAME, there wouldn't even be an argument. Stupid, moronic system.
It's funny how this video is title even though Florida only lost this game and won the SEC and won the National Championship. What happened after ole miss beat Florida oh yeah you didn't hear anything about them afterwards, because Florida was BCS bound either way. You don't need to go undefeated to win the SEC or a National Championship. No matter how you got it you still got it and they don't. Suck it bear mascot
It's okay. We got our revenge. 38-10 go Gators
+Grammar Douchery it's okay. ole miss won the Sugar bowl and Florida founds it's way back to being nothing.
Nothing? We were under one of the shittiest coaches we've had in a long time (Muschamp), and the point in time at which you made that comment, we were only one year in under a new HC, and you expect us to just be great? Sorry buddy, it just doesn't work that way. Any great program, after losing a plethora of its most valuable players (Tebow, Harvin, Demps, etc.) and as a result, outputting one of the worst seasons in its history (2013 4-8ers), isn't going to maintain its former glory EVERY single season. It's a time-consuming process. Cliché as it may be, every team has to rebuild at some point. No matter how great their players or coaches are.
Colin White Lmao y'all suck. When was the last time ole miss played in the SEC championship? Garbage. That state has 2 sec teams and they're the 2 worst teams in the sec.
***** Well, besides Vanderbilt...
@hansenkd it is funny that you are using grammar errors as a reply because you know that Florida was better and that Utah was not good, in fact they sucked, unlike Florida.
Because you typed the grammmatically abominable "would of," you're probably not even worthy of a response, but I suppose you mean like Alabama destroyed them. And what does the "then" have to do with "now?" Different teams, different times. One thing is still true, though...in the SEC, it doesn't matter if you LOSE! Losses in the SEC don't count, as Saban proved again last year.
In other words, you are in favor of a caste system in which a single division of football (I-A or FBS) has different tiers and, like the Untouchables in India, teams cannot escape their caste no matter how good they are. Hatch was right when he called it Un-American. NFL conferences and divisions have different strengths too, but can you imagine if the NFL took that into account? Whatever, you have not shown in any way how this game mattered--you can't because it didn't.
@CombatSportFan ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! Your crazy. Do you know what their record was from 2000-2010? Guess....
Try 36-93!
2000=3-8
2001=2-9
2002=2-10
2003=2-10
2004=2-9
2005=5-6
2006=4-8
2007=5-7
2008=7-6
2009=2-10
2010=2-10
One winning season gets them out of the dog house? Please dude what the fuck are you talking about?
It is always a shocker when they beat an SEC team just like the Ole Miss game. Has bad as Ole Miss is they should beat Vandy just like everyother SEC team.
Tennessee will beat Florida this year! Mark my word it's gonna be ugly!!!!
Whatever. You keep ignoring the main points and nitpicking my words. I called you out for being in favor of a heinous caste system in college football. You didn't answer that charge. Was Ole Miss good? It really doesn't matter. Let's modify it and say that LOSING--period--should have a consequence. And Ole Miss was not as good as Utah or Alabama, no doubt about that. You have yet to address the salient point--Florida lost, suffered no consequence, and the game was meaningless.
more like war beagle nowadays